I've seen lefties floating the idea that "We should use the R word against bigots to show that our hatred for them transcends our morals" and
Absolutely THE FUCK not. Are we for real with this? Like, seriously? Absolutely not, under any circumstances actually.
Absolutely THE FUCK not. Are we for real with this? Like, seriously? Absolutely not, under any circumstances actually.
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"Which R word" Google R slur. And pls stop answering ppl asking by saying it in my mentions.
"Racist is not a slur!" Racism is not the R word I'm talking about and you know damn well it's not.
Because words matter, especially around disability. I'm never gonna bother to get into a bigot's mentions and argue bc I think it's pointless. But I do think it is good though to call out otherwise progressive people on their bullshit when it happens.
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:zzj7p5r57sl4vviqws3e7k4e/post/3ld6pzm7fn22l
>1995-2015: "lmao Failed Man, go be a lib"
>2015-2025: "lmao Failed Man, go be an incel"
>experience with the entirety of mainstream politics was attractive middle-class white people calling me every flavour of Not Man Enough™ under the sun
>mfw
unfortunately that is not the R word in question here and that word should not be used 😩
So many of these bastards on the right are neurodivergent but because they were treated as 100% normal, and never had to question or examine themselves, they're just allowed to be stupid and cruel to us. 1/2
How do we address that?
And have been praised for it for millennia
Which... like, getting it is hard and the payout is like 200USD at most, most places don't have elevators working, I've had to go to clinics that only have stair access with no wheelchair entrances.
It expresses a moral superiority
They go low (e.g. racism)
We go high (not racist)
while actually excusing liberal politicians for refusing to fight dirty
They go low (obstruction)
We go high (preach bipartisanship with fascists)
because it's the only slur among all the words you said.
You can hate Republicans, but that doesn't make their name a slur.
Calling a republican a republican doesn't upset them.
It also means republican, not some hidden implied insult.
None of the elements that make up a slur.
That doesn't give you carte blanche to use it on others and you're well aware of that.
I didn't mean to make an assumption about you.
I actually was under the impression you intentionally positioned yourself in the context that you're in to prove a point.
If that's not the case, no harm done and we're not in dispute.
It's a word that should never have been used as it was.
see pointing the blame at every single leftist.
Rapist, retard, rapper, regroe?
It's completely understandable for someone who's native language is different. Words can have varying sensitivities depending upon their region or culture.
Hey, at least you know, speak and write in English. And that's great!
And anyway, Republicans already get bothered by people calling them weird or dorks. Why not go back to that?
Calling them names dosnt help.
Half the time engaging with them doesn't help.
Inform them and that's the best you can do. After that it's up to them if they want to listen or not
Being hypocritical is a tool like any other, and if you only allow your enemy to use it, you lose every time.
that's the reactionary impulse when faced with right wing reactionary hatred.
"What if we turned the hatred back on them?"
The hate supports them, it doesn't hurt at all.
They'll just celebrate bringing you down to their level as a win and move on.
As an example, I got kicked off Facebook for cyberbullying some chud for a few years. I body shamed him till he stated gaining more weight, then I dropped the "your uncle is actually your father" bomb.
It worked very nicely and his family is in ruins.
The trick is to identify "The Thing" in their life.
The Thing is the thing that they try not to think about, but it's super obvious. Everyone is usually too nice to mention it, so they think they've managed to hide The Thing
coffee vs tea maybe
It's not commonly used in the UK, at the moment.
FYI, I used to hospitalise bigots.
No. Call them out for the deep insecurity that feeds racism and sexism. Insult their masculinity, which is as fragile as rice paper. They are easily broken; make it personal.
Although the R-slur is the most reviled, "dumb" to mean ignorant or unintelligent is also ableist (non-speaking and d/Deaf people). TBH, using low intelligence as an insult is simply ableist.
Didn’t even occur to me to use a slur
It immediately shifts the discourse towards normalizing this horseshit and seems to undermine any later work towards apolitical “rule of law” justice seeking.
All this would do is turn us into bigots as well, it's so self-defeating to act like morals are in the way here, if ever.
Because if someone thinks that, they have a hilariously rosy view of bigots.
And ppl said it was hurtful, so decent folks don't use it. Fin.
But even if it was, this would be a really poor argument in support of it.
I didn't know RFK had used it but I'm not surprised, he's got testicles in place of his brain. Probably the vaccines.
Step 2: Be bigoted toward the same people as the bigots to show the bigots how much we hate bigotry
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit
What about 'Unwoke Hatetards'?
Yes we should 100% be the meanest cruelest bullies to conservatives and never call them racist or sexist because that’s a complement to them
But not… say slurs.
Fascists co-opt language because they explicitly *want* you to speak like they do.
Nobody said you had to be hurt by the word, just not to use it.
If a fascist says it, then we call them a fascist and move on.
Nothing about that "empowers them to use it even more".
that the entire world is set up to be hostile and hateful toward disabled people
and refusing to stand up to hate speech when it's aimed at them is a facile attempt to throw them under the bus for political convenience.
Capitulation. No thanks.
Nothing about "speaking the language of the right" is a smarter idea.
It's what they want and going down that road doesn't lead anywhere we want to go, so why turn there?
Now, speaking in the language of rural America? Working class people? That I can go along with.
Or do you think disabled people don't matter?
bigger tent = more votes
purity tests = less votes
Did pushing again palestenian and mocking them in the DNC help? Did running anti trans add to placate the right?
Chiney?
It seems like your bigger tent idea got tested last time and it utterly failed.
Trump didn't win more votes, the Dems lost votes within queers, palestenians and other blocks.
I didn't know "please don't use a word that means intellectually disabled as an insult" was somehow preventing people from voting.
Like come on. Think like them for a moment. They see it as a synonym for "dumb" or "idiot." Using it against them is essentially making a petty insult fest.
Without the "MAGA", pronoun?
BLASPHEMY!
This crackpot idea is like a leftie in the 1800s deciding to show slave owners by buying their own slaves to go beat up the owners.
Never punch down.
Never compromise your ethics or morals.
Never break the law to protect the law.
Don't become "them".
It amazes me how many "leftists" just want a slightly different flavor of hate.
If something "transcends your morals", you don't have morals.
I remember calling one of them a "belligerent sack of expired milk" and it got to him way harder than the r slur ever could.
And it’s awful that we’re in a time now where people feel empowered to openly make an argument like that 💔
Republican.
Sure, maybe some online people are familiar by now, but if that doesn’t mean they haven’t been rooting for our downfall all along, for one reason or another.
stop using certain words because I never needed to use them in the first place.
if you *do*, my question is answered 🤷
The rest of the world
Racism is why Trump has supporters.
It's racism and the fear of Black brilliance that has these inferior neanderthals willing to destroy America (and the world if need be) to assert their extremely fragile "whiteness."
Why is that relevant?
What you're seeing here is actually "calling in" or critique.
Critique is a message of support, hoping that one will do better.
We don't send that message to fascists because it's a kindness, not an insult.
Learning to take critique is antifascist
Rude language doesn't do that. It's just rude.
No one is saying you can't be mean to fascists. You can be mean without reinforcing the oppressive systems that fascism upholds.
That's the word that defines bigots.
Are you about to tell me that is not "a thing"?
Use the R word, don’t use it. Idgaf. Let’s go get the fascists out
I’m not gonna get distracted from issues of inequality because a few people can’t understand the nuance of language
I’ve talked to MAGA on LinkedIn and they love that leftists fight with each other overtone policing.
I've seen people misgender bigots too because "that way they know how it feels", nah. They don't care and you just validated that misgendering someone is ok under some circumstances so they are allowed to misgender others.
I don't keep space open for those who accept bigotry
really disappointed by the people who follow those accounts and stay silent, while championing liberation when it applies to them.
at least invent a slur for conservatives come onnnnnn
No, not "MAGAts." Maggats, spelled like that.
The only reason you would want to do this is that you want a morally acceptable reason to drop the R slur cause you really want to be able to say it. Fuck all that thinly veiled "transcends our morals" bullshit.
Because apparently the best way to fight bigotry, is by being a bigot yourself..
like how does this topic come up time and time again??? I actually heard a nurse use it out in the open (i was in the ER for stomach pain) and i was like "um what?" I was in so much pain i missed my chance to say something
Those leftist know it is wrong and have come up with reasons it is not wrong.
More though, victimage is at the heart of their politics of resentment--they see themselves as victims of Black people, immigrants, liberals, etc.
PLEASE !
This is a feature, not a bug, of democracy. And it's so, so frustrating.