In my Dystopian series the US is taken over by Nazis, becomes Neo Columbia, invades Canada & Mexico, forms pact with Russia & China, Tech Oligarch controls the President. 3 posts with a longer thread quoted in the first. https://bsky.app/profile/justinleesmith.bsky.social/post/3lfxic4vqnc25
Yup and the even stranger thing is that many POC voted for this in November. Many more stayed home as a “protest”. They and their kids have the most to lose.
I was a researcher for the Texas Holocaust and Genocide Commission. I have not the honor of being Jewish, but my daughter-in-law is and my future grandchildren will be. In the name of all that’s holy, I stand at once livid and horrified beyond measure.
Thank you for clearly stating your opposition to this, especially as a Texan, who most of the country feels is in lockstep with this administration.
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I’ve lived in this state for most of my life, but have never been comfortable calling myself a Texan — less today than ever before. I am an American, damn it, and Nazis should crawl back into the crevices like the cockroaches they are.
Hahahaha wow. I wanna give you a hug. My heart goes to the airforce since thats where mom and dad met. Nice to meet you and I hope you stay safe out there
Proud Tejana here. I no longer live in Tejas, and I refuse to recognize the “Texas” these Nazi lovers have created with their hate. I don’t blame you for wanting to leave. Sadly too many people think all Tejanos are racist twatwaffles which is untrue.
Austin, Houston, San Antonio, and El Paso — to name just four cities — are largely or mostly Blue. But the Good Ole Boy fraternity has a stranglehold on the State House.
While I recognize you are not a monolith as another user wrote, the proactive distancing from that group think is a refreshing beacon of hope in an otherwise pessimistic day. Thanks again.
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And while I see you just followed me, I have strong and potentially positions that you may not agree with, but all the same, I welcome you as a friend.
EVERY major city in Texas voted blue, suburbs as purple as they come. While there are plenty right wing good ole boys in rural areas the bigger issue is in Texas remains- low voter turnout. And this is by design. The GOP spent decades perfecting their tactics down here.
Agreed. Gerrymandering, closing down polling places in minority districts, allowing “concerned citizens” to openly carry firearms on the premises DURING voting … the whole package.
I'm not Jewish either. But every Nazi can kiss my blonde, blue eyed ass. I had a holocaust seminar in grad school and I firmly believe everyone should take one of those.
Grew up with friends that decended from shit like the wars etc .... I called it about 3 years ago and had argued with a friend since about if hes what he is. Needless to say my friend finally shut up and stepped back for once. Hes not ok with what elon did
I stand corrected. He blocked me saying it was "just a wave" and that I was "delusional". You just all witnessed whos really delusional. My delusion was believing he wouldnt become this currupt
Life long Republican Texan here. But voted full Democrat in 2020 and 2024. Trump and maga are not Republicans. The party is dead. It’s been replaced by this.
1/2 I was raised conservative Republican but met the real conservatives when I was in college. Didn’t like them much. I stayed with the GOP until they started taking Trump seriously. When he won the 2016 nomination the scales fell from my eyes and I switched parties.
The Democrats haven’t been perfect — the Progressives and the more traditional Liberals are squabbling instead of uniting, and the leadership has been operating under the illusion that they can make nice and still win. For the love of God we have to unite and do whatever it takes to stamp out MAGA.
Most people think that photo of her is fake. They're given a free pass every time. Now we're a few short weeks away from concentration camps inside our own country.
I didn’t see it that way. Neither did the Germans, who of all people should know. Musk has allied himself with the far right party there and has been “meddling in their politics” (sound familiar?). The German government is busy preparing to dump the X platform, calling it a propaganda tool.
The old left wing order in Germany is fearful of losing its power and has resorted to a lot of name calling. Democracy means allowing the public to vote freely without being frightened by propaganda.
No sensible person genuinely believes Musk has intended to give a Nazi salute.
They can do both. Jewish Americans are overwhelmingly Democrats. Do some research on the history of antisemitism in this country and then tell me that conservatives aren’t targeting Jews. Again, I was a researcher for the Texas Holocaust and Genocide Commission, and I’ve done my homework.
I am livid and horrified as well. A decade ago an act like this would have ended anyone’s association with politics. But not today. I am curious what lessons your research into the holocaust have taught about how to prevent a madman from turning a democracy into a dictatorship.
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My research with the THGC was concerned with the Liberator Project: identifying veterans from Texas who had witnessed firsthand the conditions of the labor camps as they were seized from Nazi control.
The point of the project was multi-pronged: on the one hand, to recognize their courage and
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Self-sacrifice, and on the other to tell their stories. Holocaust deniers will claim that the entire enterprise was exaggerated or that the photographic evidence was somehow fake. These arguments collapse when the facts are laid out by people you may know from down the street.
Thank you for sharing that. This is the kind of work we must continue to highlight and support. Keep shining as much light as possible on all of the lies.
Both my grandfathers fought against this shit. They both came back, thankfully, but I'm kind of glad they didn't live long enough to see this garbage infecting America.
You just accused half the Jews of the world of doing bad shit. Your anti-Zionism mask fell off. You're literally peddling the same kind of "bad Jew" rhetoric that Hitler and the antisemites used to slaughter half of us.
For Elon Musk to own it that requires ballz, which he doesn’t have. My neutered puppy has more ballz than he does. But I can assure you won’t do any of this in a sketchy neighborhood. Remember what goes around comes around. We have to endure 1459 days.
Oh boy! After changing his X name to a Roman one last week (Kekius Maximus), he is trying the freaking Roman salute now. That salute used by Mussolini and his black shirts and… Hitler and the nazis. Yeap here we are! Is he showing his true face now or is he just a stupid ignorant?
Oh I got a MAGA to answer this despite nice Block lists. Pornography and over aggressive copied-pasted replies on his profile. I’m blocking the dude but be aware. Don’t engage, just block!
They're saying he really meant "my heart goes out to you" bc he said that right before. I don't buy it. The left, too, will turn a gaffe into some slam theory sometimes, but not this. Body language wasn't endearing. But they're already trying to explain it away. Proud Boys identified it with cheers.
I can't find a clip anywhere where he says that. The clips I'm seeing, he says "Thank you...thank you" just before he gives at least two Nazi salutes.
Absolutely sickening.
If there's anything I've learned in the past 10 years, it's that wherever there may be a chance for these folks to face consequences, they will definitely escape them.
Nielson's TV ratings, the only ones that matter, sample a "representative" panel of people who sign up to keep a virtual diary of their household's TV viewing.
The boycott won't affect ratings at all unless someone in that panel is participating.
Do. Not. Engage. Just a scumbag right winger trying to both sides to obfuscate from the main problem of a billionaire oligarch giving the nazi salute at a US presidential inauguration. Just block them, deny them the attention they crave.
Yes that’s a panzer SS 3rd division symbol. At the beginning of the Ukraine war, the Azov battalion had 60,000 Nazis on it. Since 2014 Ukrainian Nazis constantly bombed the Donbas because the people there identified as Russian and didn’t want to join Ukraine. In effect they wanted to cleanse them.
Yeesh I figured there are cells still around but, just goes to show even when I’m aware my media is washed there is still only so much I can find organically unless I dig. Cheers,
Exactly, Unfortunately our media is controlled by billionaires so we won’t find the truth unless we dig. I feel bad for the Ukrainians too, they’re just used as fodder. Other people freak out when I post something other than what’s pushed on us but oh well, it’s not like it benefits me lol, Cheers
Furthermore, I'm going to make this clear that I'm saying HE as in implying he's a TRANS MAN. If I meant it as Elon being a trans woman I would've used SHE. People are completely missing the point. If you don't get it block me and move on.
All part of the same thing friend. While I agree that it is possible to flood the zone with so much stuff people lose track all the stuff that you'd doubtless label as important is part of being a Nazi so it's all the same thing.
Just put this thought in your mind, along with the revulsion:
there are a lot of Americans in the U.S. today who are laughing and cheering at that Nazi salute. Many of them voted for the Trump party.
From Deadline: “In very odd and circumspect language, CNN’s Erin Burnett first called Musk’s action an “odd looking salute.” Her on-screen companion added, “it’s not something you see at an American political rally.”
Yes. Musk's maternal grandparents were open Nazis in Canada and emigrated to South Africa *because of* Apartheid. He was groomed to be a Hitlerian figure.
Not accurately. Saying things like it "seems like a Nazi salute some say" or calling it the Roman salute. No media has come out and said Holy shit Musk just gave the Nazi salute twice! Not yet anyway and I'm not holding my breath for it.
Is it? Just checked CNN. Didn't see it on their website. MSNBC has Elon mentioned 3x on their front page inauguration coverage; none about this. I'm sure Fox and the rest of the Right Wing Internet Hate Machine aren't covering it. So where are you seeing it?
He actually doubled down on that shit. He salutes again immediately after this clip ends and tries to cover it by saying "my heart goes out to you". Vile ☠️
You watched a Nazi, doing a Nazi salute. In case you did not know who the bad guys are, this is the moment from the movies that tells you which ones are.
All of these Fascist wannabees should've been removed from the picture a long time ago. We had SO many warnings! They were all the next potential Hitler
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I am not a US citizen, and we have the same issues in Europe, with maybe more protections against fascist oligarchs, but they are trying to ruin our democracies from the inside. A global resistance mouvement must rise. Starting by boycotting,X, Meta, gafas etc. Remember how they stopped Al Capone.
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You are absolutely right! This needs to be no less than a global resistance effort before it takes over the entire globe. Social media is responsible for brainwashing the masses. How can so many people want all this hatred and prejudice??
I just can't fathom it😟
Your performance is absolutely beautiful.😌 Especially when sung in what I would guess is your native language. Athough I do not understand the words, the beauty needs no translation. Thank you so much for sharing that! I am honored, and I'm in awe of your many talents!
We all need this now❤️
You're asking about the existence of Evil in the world. It' s a highly complex issue. Maybe the point is not about knowing why, since it is beyond our comprehension, but what to do about it, starting with ourselves. Bach wrote an aria about it. Betörte Welt. It is eloquent, even for non believers.
My point is that, while I have my reservations, I don’t believe that was meant as a Nazi salute- or anything “Nazi”. I don’t just dive in because I “don’t like” someone- personally, politically or otherwise.
hi i just want to let you know i appreciate that your @ is "terrypasta" but your username is "tony pizza" i think that is good and deserving of my respect
Wonder how many of those 2.7 million were disenfranchised due to new ID laws, poll center closings, or any number of other open voter suppression shenanigans. There's no need to speculate about secretive voter fraud conspiracy theories, they did it all in the open and nobody stopped them.
He didn’t get a majority of the votes. He simply got more votes, a plurality. Votes for Harris and third party add up to make a majority. He has no mandate.
I just like to get it out there as much as possible that he has *no* mandate. We must repeat this and make it known while the msm leaves his braggadocio unchecked.
No mandate, but all the levers of power. And he's pulling them to harm Americans. It's really stunning that a POTUS is actively trying to reduce people's rights, and is rolling back progress.
Who else but me thinks Trump forcing Federal workers back into their offices is just a cash grab to help the sagging Commercial Real Estate market? Grifter In Chief, Season 2. Welcome to the mandatory reality show. Shades of Running Man. I choose Ben Richards..
Ahem... Who's the famous tech bro who recently backed the neo-nazi German AfD ?... Yes I know... It's embarrassing but I'm not even sure Musk's knowledge goes as far as the Roman Empire actually. It might be kind of stuck somewhere in the South African early 90's...
Most Nazis know that’s the Roman salute. I guarantee you he did it on purpose like that. I’m just saying it’s technically not a Nazi salute. Whether he knows it or not.
Technically, there's no historical evidence that romans saluted this way. The first "Roman salute" being theHorace's oath by David (circa 1785). Not very accurate peplum movies made it popular and of course, it became the official fascist salute around 1920 then by the nazis with tiny differences.
With all due respect, in my opinion, we should not post counter-propaganda like this without clear reference of where it came from. It makes us ignorant & emotional. In order to make progress & be the change we want to see in the world, we must adhere to the scientific method & rule of law.
And when justice comes down, the record itself will be the truth, and orange 2x-impeached convicted criminal rapist, his family and all of his acolytes will come to rest in a trap made of their very own laurels.
Well it worked so well last time, didn't it.
And who is "we?"
Those of us alarmed are not just Dems - we're independents, Greens, Libertarians, Socialists, more than a few Dick Cheney types. We're also alarmed that Dems seem to be sleep-walking thru this challenge, yet still demand our votes?
Some very good points.
You know, sometimes I feel like the Dems are in on the whole scheme.
But anyway, I swear I meant no ill will.
For you see the text+image do not clearly specify the context and people like myself aren't always able to discern the real meaning.
For example: Does this post communicate that Trump produced this material as part of his official campaign?
Or is this perhaps an artist's or an activist's creation?
Or maybe it's just fake, AI, a joke, someone else's handy work?
I looked on Google Lens it is there and it says that that was in South Carolina that they had that sign so no one would know about it unless they seen it from South Carolina which people like me from Kansas have no idea but I knew what he was that's why I never picked either one of up, both snakes
Best I could tell, the first time the image went around, the symbol was painted/screenprinted onto a regular Trump sign.
If it had been an offical sign (or even non-offical-but-organized) there'd have been a lot of photos of the sign in different locations, instead of just one.
What are we supposed to do? We camping, we voted, do you think this is what we want? Do you think we want to spend the next 1459 days in agony? The election was stolen, and it has to do a lot with the guy who just saluted as a Nazi.
My dude, you dont do a freaking Roman salute in front of millions of people as a joke. Probably practiced it with his Nazi grandparents in apartheid S. Africa
I did recognize that it was a joke, but maybe I wasn't in the mood for humor or maybe I just felt the need to point out that Musk would need a much better lie.
Just showed this to my German husband and his face tells me how bad that is. His schooling was all bout how to learn from history and never allow fascism to take hold in the country again. It is crystal clear to him. 😩
We do. Broadly speaking, we have three groups:
1. People who see this and are horrified.
2. People who see this and love it.
3. People who see this and are horrified, but find a way to justify it because their sense of self is wrapped up in this "movement".
It's not the same as Germany. This emerges from the boredom of the affluent. Yet it's also socialism. And moderated by Pink Panther levels of kleptocratic kakistocracy. And perhaps catalyzed by nuclear weapons. Dietrich Bonhöffer warned about stupidity.
This is not socialism. Maybe do some research about pre nazi germany. He had corporations, wealthy people and the Catholic Church all co-conspiring. This has been planned for decades
Elements of authoritarian socialism, not democratic socialism. Assigning a single ideology to Trump is unlikely to help us understand. The dirigism is notable. It's not just up to capitalists to do what they want like in fascism.
In spite of massive violence and voter intimidation, the Nazis won only 43.9% of the vote, rather than the majority that he had expected. Therefore, Hitler was forced to maintain his coalition with the DNVP to control the majority of seats.
I know...I say that over and over and over. There had to be people like me in 1939 Nazi Germany looking around and asking "What the actual F#ck is wrong with these people?!?!?"
I think early on during WWII, only a small minority opposed Hitler but some did, for sure.
But the difference is that when Hitler came to power, times were ROUGH in Germany with people literally starving to death.
Meanwhile, Trump supporters are pissed off about the cost of eggs.
It's like that quote that goes: "those who think their democracies are immune to corruption are the most susceptible to it"...
For a couple of generations now the status quo has been so good, and so seemingly inevitable, that we've lost all memory of past hard lessons.
Is that the way it always is?
There are a lot of us Americans who do see it. I’m terrified for the future if something isn’t done to stop these Nazis in their tracks. The next decade is going to be off the rails.
This is so true. Europeans learn much more about world history. So little world news is discussed in general. Every time we go to a different country I have to explain where it is to several people I grew up with.
According to his ex-wife, Ivana, in a Vanity Fair interview, Trump used to sleep with Hitler's speeches next to him on his nightstand. He knew that history. I wish more of my fellow Americans did their research before voting.
Oh, I am very much aware because unlike apparently half the country, I read history books about countries that aren't mine. Including ones on Nazi Germany.
Most know. They support those in power pushing this agenda. Pushing the hate. That’s donnie’s platform.
1. Hate
2. “They” aren’t like us. We’re better.
Honestly, I think it has more to do that with our history we were also served a giant glass of propaganda. American Exceptionalism to save the day! I was in advanced placement classes and loved reading WWII novels and didn’t hear about the Japanese internment camps until I was well into my 20s.
They know it. But we have such a disinformation campaign, it's vogue to talk shit about the government and seed distrust. That or they are just bored and somehow don't think it's dangerous, that America is too strong to be destroyed by this phase. I'm shocked, honestly.
The way the rise of the Nazi party is taught in American schools is a sham, and I’m inclined to think it’s by design. If they taught the rhetoric that was actually used, students would start to make inconvenient connections between fascism and the entire conservative movement.
Americans aren’t stupid they know that shit!! They just don’t want to admit it and by they yes I do mean the white people who support these mother fuckers. He’s doing exactly what house asshats want
No disrespect, but Americans absolutely know this history but Trump supporters believe in it and are actively embracing the white supremacy that fueled these dark chapters of history.
I dare say that a lot of us, who’ve seen it so much already by this point, have scaled back our reactions, because we know that trolls like Trump and Musk do this sort of thing to GET a reaction. They FEED off our outrage.
Oh I think they see it. You have one group that just ignores it. The other group is trying to normalize it. They do this so that you stop questioning it
My own f-ing dad is romani-french descent and STILL supports Musk and Trump. I don't get it. We lost so many relatives on his side of the family to the Nazis in WW2.
Why hide it now. It happened how it was said to happen: a bunch of dumb people voted them in because they even give the lowest scum something 'beneath' them to hate.
Works every fucking time, ends the same every fucking time. And we just refuse to learn.
A lot of us do see it. Perhaps even most. He didn't win legitimately, but no one in power did anything to stop this. They tell us we must accept the results. Nothing we do makes any difference. They've allowed our country to be bought.
in the same way he was educated on his country's dark past & not to repeat it, we were indoctrinated on American exceptionalism & heroism. to criticize our country's past is unpatriotic. to consider us at risk of being the villain is unspeakable.
It sucks. Frankly, I think people can see it, and not enough of them care to do anything about it. And a lot of them want this future. A LOT of us don't. I can only hope the public has fight in it to resist anything material.
We saw the writing on the wall and left in 2019. I wanted to get my daughter out before too late as she was 17. It is a mixed feeling of survival guilt and watching your home burn down from across a valley.
Yeah, it is conflicting. If not for our relationships here, we would have left a while ago. Was it worth it? Leaving everything behind? I am genuinely curious because as a queer person, I am seriously considering getting the fuck out too.
Admitting they see it means admitting they got *got*—that he isn't some counterculture tech supergenius but an IRL low-budget cartoon villain, & he's always been this way.
Admitting they see it might also mean admitting they're cool w.Nazis, & they might not be ready to say that out loud just yet.
Roughly speaking, Trump was voted in by three groups. Financial benefactors, morally corrupt individuals and fucking dumb idiots who are easily manipulated.
With those absurd double standards it doesn't matter.
The reporting and mainstream media was so violently reshaped during the last 10 years that Trump can literally say fucking anything because "that's the way he is". It's all twisted.
Many do & don't care. This country is full of racists. Another giant chunk can't read above a 6th grade level. We are an illiterate & dumb nation with too much power. I hope the downfall of America is the start of other countries' rising to be the new leaders.
Because a lot of Americans were pro Nazi the first time and there are still too many who are pro Nazi and have wanted a do over for a long time. Decent people didn’t take them seriously.
yes, this, I instantly cried--omg this is so much worse than "we really shouldn't normalize this" --we are underreacting, not that I blame us. I have no idea where to put this ache
When there is an inconsistency between attitudes or behaviors (dissonance), something must change to eliminate the dissonance.
Either their belief must change or their perception of the cause of dissonance changes. In this case contradictory evidence must be false, exagerated, or misconstrued.
germany currently has a very real problem with modern fascism. but yeah nazism is obviously not popular in germany, the american political climate is very unique to have someone get away with this in any way
Hopefully people will now see it and boycott Tesla. I would not be surprised if the EU bans twitter. The US government needs to cancel all of his government contracts or better yet nationalize his SpaceX company
The EU , UK, Canada, Mexico and other countries are going to have to block all trades and agreements. It sucks but reality is that we are heading to a war with our allies
There's also monuments to f-ing Hitler in Wisconsin. The state I still f-ing live in. America was always kind of f-ed up but now the scum are in power.
At the rallies held by Kamala Harris, participants emphatically demonstrated their resolve by chanting, "We’re not going back." However, it appears we find ourselves in a situation reminiscent of the 1930s once more.
I wasn’t so lucky. My uncles and aunts are all German (me being a 1st gen American) and besides my grandpa and my mom. They all support trump and Elon.
I'm so sorry, but I do understand. I have family that are MAGA. They don't dare bring it up around me. I find myself avoiding them all the time. I do blame them for what we are about to go through & depending on how bad it is, I may not be able to forgive them.
Empathy is a Radical source of resistance. Try talking to them on their level, don’t act like you’re better than them and explain your viewpoint carefully.
That is the best way to help someone realize that they might be wrong about some things.
The problem is it is pure brain washing, there is no talking to them anymore. They will have to face hurt and harmful consequences, which means we all will pay the same way. I do mean, I truly may not be able to forgive them this time. I am a person that will divorce family, I have done it before.
Trust me, is not only you. I took it upon myself to stop speaking to 90% of my family who supports these clowns. Sometimes is better to get rid of garbage. I can’t wait for Karma.
The difficulty with media is that all the 1% richest with the monopolies, who are now kissing Trumps a**, have bought the majority of newsrooms. Without unbiased sources of info, how can we offer an alternative to the manipulation?
I don’t believe I have German in my dna but I was very lucky to have an English teacher and an ethics teacher who both encouraged the fuxk out of my ww2 obsession that was specifically about the German side of things, thanks to them I saw this coming miles away and am having non of it
My grandpa left Austria so he wouldn’t have to fight for Hitler and he would have absolutely lost it over what Elon did today. Everything is a joke to that idiot. I can only hope someday they all get what they deserve.
I'm on holiday in Germany & just spent 6 days in Berlin. The more I've learned about German history (the German history taught in British schools loosely covers 1939-1945 & nothing either side) I'm chilled to my core that we are witnessing history repeating, even before Musk did this!
Exactly, Germany tore down every statue and destroyed most of everything to erase it from the country. We are in the UK now and it’s clear what was taught. He perceives an underlying mistrust every time his accent is noted. The focus on UK WWII remembrance today is overwhelming but not balanced.
I'm sorry he thinks there's mistrust, in my experience most brits like Germans, we know that Germany is brutally honest about the war to make sure it doesn't happen again!
But I actually meant that we aren't taught HOW the nazis turned people. The drip feed of hate... That we're seeing again!
True, it is the lack of action and no resistance that allows it to take over. Every German knows this, the French as well. This is why they are quick to protest anything.
Hopefully this time, we can be wide awake. Farage is a wanna be dictator
Farage, Truss & Braverman are all there right now!
They should be arrested as soon as they step foot on uk soil because they were clearly at a nazi rally!
I will never forget the chill I got, on my one & only trip to Germany, when I saw a sign near the parking lot of the Nürnberg Messe that read, “Nie wieder faschismus, nie wieder Krieg” and realized I was standing on the old Nazi parade ground. 😱
Newspapers and TV didn't know how to cope with it.
Me and people I know watched it and were asking if I saw Musk giving that nazi salute.
No discussion what it might have been, the category of that move was clear to everyone at first glance.
I am American butt of German heritage and I know how bad that is! I vowed to never let that hate into this country because I know what happened. It upsets me, It embarrasses me, and it disgusts me that either country succumbed to the rule of fascism.
Thank you for your meaningful response. Tell your husband that non-rumpus people are ashamed and apologize to him and to all who suffered and died because of Hitler rage.
Greetings from Germany, I saw it and was terrified to my heart. I already knew, there will be hard times, not only for USA but also for the rest of the world. But the Hitlergruss is a very bad sign for every marginalised group in the US. I am crying.
The topography of terror in Berlin is great. Sadly these clowns are using it as a playbook. The holocaust is only the last exhibit, we are about 1/2 way through the process.
If you stay, educate your children and monitor their activities online. Get off social media links to anyone who attended today and make positive connections with your in person community who share similar views.
Honestly, we left the US the last time he was president. It was clear then what was in motion. We attend every protest we can, speak out against fascism loudly, stay informed and ensure we have another country to flee to. If you can get a passport anywhere by descent, do it now.
Wish I could leave this country. I’m disgusted. But I can barely make mortgage, insurance and food bills, let alone find a place outside the country to move to.
That’s how we felt. We thought maybe PNW but couldn’t square how out of control health care and housing costs, coupled with a rise of christofascists and ammosexuals everywhere made any state safe ( for long) . So we started a global job search, it took a year for it all the fall together.
Many German people are commenting and I am so pleased.
Thank you to your husband and to all the other Germans that are speaking out about this. I saw one response where they said their blood ran cold seeing him do that.
Yes..there are too many people who don't understand how evil that time period was..and to see it happen was flat out disgusting. I really don't know where to go from here.
Those of us with privilege must fight to protect those who are more vulnerable. It is the middle class that needs to be willing to go without and be uncomfortable to protest every single piece of this shit. People can’t just carry on like usual while their neighbours and acquaintances disappear.
It’s a Nazi salute; adopted from the Italian fascists, who harked back to Caesarean times.
It’s a damn fucking fascist symbol - and should be called out as such.
That Fusk and Fuckerberg see themselves as the modern day Caesars is no secret.
I lived in Germany for a little over 7 years. Even 11 years ago when we left, there was still a sense of a country atoning for a past many deemed shameful.
I've a student here in FL who thinks flipping Nazi salutes at me is funny.
I played a video of a camp being liberated. Zero tolerance.
Elon Musk doing a Nazi salute at an inauguration rally isn’t edgy—it’s dangerous. This blatant normalization of hate symbols emboldens extremists and erodes decency. Public figures must be held accountable when they cross such lines. We can’t afford silence. #NoToHate
It will be an early test for MSM, which they will fail. Watch them give it minimal coverage and present ways to look at it that make it seem not so bad.
We need large scale public shunning of Elon Musk. For example, if he appears before a crowd, all decent people need to turn their backs to him.
Clearly, when you are the richest man in the world, you don’t give a $hit at least not if your name is Mlon Eusk. He needs to be stopped. This is the first time I have ever rooted for Steve Bannon.
Ya think?, why does everyone keep pretending he is not a psychotic nazi drug addict?. I mean he has done everything but hold up a big sign stating as much.
That's who he is an most Americans idolize him for it. It's sick imo.
What can we do? The government had failed us 100 times over by allowing Trump to run free, free traitors and criminals, corrupt the Supreme Court. Both parties are responsible for this mess.
Not unlike carrying a confederate flag through the Capitol on Jan 6. Hate reared it’s UGLY head in Donarhea’s first term, now in his 2nd term, they think they own the world 🌎 and he will feed them as much HATE as he can in hopes their numbers will grow because, they are his followers, his kind!🤔
I’m staying right here. This is my country & my home. My family and I are not going any fucking where. I’m old and don’t expect to live a whole lot longer anyway, so, easy for me to say. But these motherfuckers will not manipulate me with fear or take anything else from me. I’m out of fucks to give.
I'm German. I visited Auschwitz in my youth and on that day "never again" was burned into my memory. My ancestors weren't innocent, my grandmother even called that time "a good time" when I asked her about it. Incidentally, she lived just a few kilometres from a concentration camp.
Yes. It is absolutely bewildering to me too that anyone voted for him. Because we all knew what he was selling. There are some gestures like the nazi salute that still shock & traumatize me to my core.
I agree with you. And might I remind you the head of ADL once went on Morning Joe saying X is "Absolute Free Speech." I say this out of love for you, but frustration at whoever leads the ADL
I totally agree with you. Genuinely, I don’t know what I can do. People voted in Trump and his band of extremists and idiots. I’m not even American and since it’s world politics, I know whatever they do will affect me here in Europe. Musk is already saying MEGA. I’m feeling… scared and powerless.
This is exactly correct. This normalization is a lot like the story of the frog that doesn't realize the danger of being in a pot on the stove, slowly heating until it is too late to save itself.
That's the playbook. Normalize it, take away the moral outrage... Then when things start happening... Things that are morally outrageous... Things that shouldn't be accepted: Not enough people care to stop it. And when it is stopped, those who didn't care: Lie.
They said it was "just a heat of the moment Sieg Heil" rather than an actual one. Cause, you know, sometimes people just throw out Nazi salutes in the heat of the moment.
I know CNN got bought out by a far-right dude but Jesus
He has been normalising and enabling extremists on his platform and in real life for a while now. He’s interfering in the domestic affairs of even other countries to support them. He’s a fascist oligarch and needs to go.
And tell me who exactly is surprised by this? Buckle up cuz this is what we get when ABSOLUTELY no one questioned our election. Will go down as the most bizarre and dangerous complacency EVER!
The fact that the entire country doesn’t have musk on blast for that despicable performance is so terrifying. It’s being normalized on day one. Trumps fascist reign has begun.
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The Romans so loved the Greeks that they
conquered them, plaigiarized their religion
and bastardized their entire culture into the
perversions of Caligula and the Colosseum.
Beware of hate-filled child-like
men who speak about love which
they always mistake for penetration.
Once an abuser of people, now and always an abuser of a nation and it’s people, with hopes of abusing the world 🌎
It’s my hope he will fly to close to the sun, it’s inevitable 🤔
It is beyond belief that no one on Trumps side (his son in law) didn't condone what Musk did. We can not stay quiet! I will be writing my senators and congressmen to do something.
He is paving the way for one of his children to become president of the United States, allowing him to exert influence from behind the scenes. Trump will bend and break many rules and regulations, taking the brunt of public criticism, while later, Elon’s child will benefit from a less regulated USA.
Neurodivergent ADHD spicy…. His family Are Nazis. His grandmother and grandfather were members on the NAZI party. They made their money off the racism they found in S. Adrian Apartheid. Racism is in Elon’s blood. It’s stupid to assume otherwise. He did that on purpose.
He turned Twitter into a racist cesspool, happily lived under apartheid, doesnt take care of any of his children, is total garbage - while shocking, it’s not a surprise.
It looks like a "Roman salute" done as a tribute to a state leader. I think Americans themselves may not fully understand the consequences of fascism, but it clearly tickles their fetishistic distorted perception of European culture.
As an American, Elon and the crowd celebrating his salute aren't historically smart enough to know that what he was doing could be a Roman Salute.
Americans only know it as the Nazi salute as that is shown in history class. They know what it means, there's no denying it.
Greeting someone from a distance with raised arm saying hi is an old Germanic tradition. The purpose is to show that you are not carrying a weapon. When the arm is straight it is a symbol of fascism, as difficult to misinterpret as a swastika. Nazisalute is banned in many countries including Germany
Hitler's Germany was just as blind to the fascism rising in their country until it was too late as so many in the USA are to Trump and his fascism. I hope so, so much that it's not too late here.
It isn’t too late but it is a very uphill battle! We need to organize like we’re republicans overturning RoevWade because it’s going to take a lot of boots on the ground volunteering 😅
Shitty dark times ahead, no doubt but you know what makes every fascist dictatorship possible? People giving up and giving all their power to the regime. We are many! We have to come together, build community and organize. Don’t give them an easy win by giving up!
1/ True, before they give up, they pretend nothing is going to happen. They take the evidence in deniable parts, and do not place the dictatorship in context. Trump has risen and has been enabled for a reason. To save America of record inequality and debt from a democratic solution.
2/ Total private+public debt rises as inequality rises. America mostly owes money to wealthy Americans. Eventually there is either a crisis or stagnation. In 1930s FDR's New Deal reforms to deal with Great Depression. Now levels of inequality and total debt as % GDP have risen to similar levels.
3/ The wealthy elite see reform around the corner, and have cleverly responded by enabling Trump to build MAGA and take over the GOP. This second time he has a well funded plan (Project 2025 is only the public face of it) to dismantle US democracy from the inside.
The difference is, that they couldn’t know the industrialization of killing that would happen. We know now what fascism can lead to. How bad it can get. And yet… as someone who was raised & educated in Germany it’s horrifying to watch what’s happening in the US. All over actually. Even here.
You guys need to ban X from your country and get your constitutional court to dissolve the AFD. After yesterday, you should be operating in national emergency mode. If you are German, protest and petition your representative for it.
No, it's not!!
Pessimism will get us nowhere.
🇺🇸 is many x larger & more diverse than 🇩🇪 in the 1930s.
Blue states have power.
Roberts & ACB just stood up to him.
DT/MAGA is fueled by fear. Don't give them any!
Be mad, not afraid!
Americans won't be pushed around.
Don't comply or give up in advance! 💪
Also, the first sexology research center was founded in Germany in 1919 and was burnt down by nazis in 1933. We were plenty diverse. A good majority of us just got snuffed out.
Hi, German-American Jew here. It's not Pessimism, it's realism. My homeland's ENTIRE SOCIETY got screwed over by one Austrian man that moved to Germany to avoid drafts. Even if we "get past this", we will NEVER BE THE SAME AS A WHOLE. That really is just how it is.
Come on let's call the spade a spade, it's Nazism in the fullest in the United States let's call it what it is, let's not beat around the bush. They are trying to recreate fascism in the United States right now today, tonight. It's NAZISM. I'M NOT TRYING TO BE A PESSIMIST I'M TRYING TO BE A REALIST.
I hear you and you're right; pessimism gets us nowhere. It also makes it easier for them to get their way. I really hate that I just called my fellow Americans "them" though ya know? I'm afraid of how dark things may get, but it's good to see like minded folks on here, it gives me hope.
They weren't blind. They merely had too much to lose. They didn't want to risk their comfortable lives in opposing the regime. They didn't turn on him till they had nothing but rubble & defeat. That's why you'll see too many Americans do nothing.
the only opposing forces were just very unstable and uncoordinated. the KPD (communists) wanted a radical approach, inventing Antifa (yes that antifa) and the SPD wanted a more democratic approach, banning the NSDAP. in the end the KPD got banned and both landed in the camps
The post war Weimar Republic was a very wierd place. There were constant street fights between SocDems, Communists and Monarchists. They were so bad that the new government had to operate outside of Berlin, In weimar. The new government that formed, KPD, SPD And Zentrum (centre) was unstable (1/2)
My best reason is that the communists here are all hanging on Putin's balls. I also believe that the repressive phase of real socialism is insurmountable and that communism is therefore a pure utopia.
You are so right. My husband has been watching the documentary series "Road to Berlin" and he said the parallels between Hitler's rise to power and FOTUS' (Felon of the United States) are exact and scary.
I’m worried too. Einstein fled Nazifying Germany in December 1932 when there were a few other Jewish refugees fleeing. But as of 1939, sadly, only about 300,000 had left. There are striking similarities between Trump and his MAGA coterie and 1930’s Germany but if we hang together it’s not too late
From the vitriol being spewed at Canada by a MASSIVE number of your country, I’d say Felon47 will start World war 3 by declaring war on Canada. Right now, your country is a tinder keg, waiting to be set off by VERY little. This is but the beginning of the end.
Sadly, there is going to be this disgusting crap around the clock for four years. Going to the kitchen for a snack, you’ll come back to an invasion of Greenland. We’d all better buckle up.
1 - This started in 2016. Steve Bannon is a full-blown fascist, who used Cambridge Analytica analysis of leaked facebook data to model an efficient system of fake news propagation. This system worked best in 3 places: USA (2016); England (Brexit); Brazil (2018).
2 - Musk has been bolstering far-right twitter users for years now, just by replying or retweeting them. Radicalization has been normalized for long enough that it's becoming acceptable. I personally think Musk and Trump are opportunists without any moral principles, unlike Bannon.
3 - Bannon's tactics include bombastic comments and ideas, like invading this and that. They are meant to provoke engagement, outrage and make the unacceptable more acceptable, little by little. Be skeptical of 90% of what Trump says. Don't take the bait.
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im not sure this helps
This is who they are: Nazis.
https://bsky.app/profile/justinleesmith.bsky.social/post/3lfxic4vqnc25
A South African freak with a fascist salute?
#BoycottTesla
Everything he does has been in the vein of complete impunity.
And he speaks as if he's the king of Earth. He is out of control.
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The Nazi's came for lots of people https://hmd.org.uk/resource/first-they-came-by-pastor-martin-niemoller/
Mafia article here:
https://gregolear.substack.com/p/fck-giuliani-rudy-and-the-red-garter
We don't ask Nazis for apology. We kick them, kick them, kick them, until nazism is squeezed out of them.
No sensible person genuinely believes Musk has intended to give a Nazi salute.
There is no discrimination from the government, the complete opposite is true.
Just look at the bi-partisan support of Israel and its genocide of Palestinians.
You're delusional.
My research with the THGC was concerned with the Liberator Project: identifying veterans from Texas who had witnessed firsthand the conditions of the labor camps as they were seized from Nazi control.
The point of the project was multi-pronged: on the one hand, to recognize their courage and
Self-sacrifice, and on the other to tell their stories. Holocaust deniers will claim that the entire enterprise was exaggerated or that the photographic evidence was somehow fake. These arguments collapse when the facts are laid out by people you may know from down the street.
We can all stand up against Nazi's without excusing everything done by Jews.
Ich fühle mit dir?
Du bist der kontextlose Troll!
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And put him in charge of a soon to be introduced by decree federal anti socialist witch-hunt of sorts 🤬
Absolutely sickening.
All for the world to see.
Sieg Heil, mein Führer 🤚
blatant, unapologetic fascists, racists, nazis.
At least the Proud Boys will struggle more to get to their rallies when their new cars spontaneously combust.
Nielson's TV ratings, the only ones that matter, sample a "representative" panel of people who sign up to keep a virtual diary of their household's TV viewing.
The boycott won't affect ratings at all unless someone in that panel is participating.
https://bsky.app/profile/mls1.bsky.social/post/3lghdouucxk2o
Quacks like a duck
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Do you realize how much you are complete idiots, you media talking heads who just spent three days saying the same thing about Elon Musk?
https://x.com/MaximeBernier/status/1882442557659254871?t=eN8SXIn_Wg_c2wtbWzf70A&s=19
Remember when we understood this?
XAXAXAXAX
_ComradeRed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlHPmToyF14&list=PLRIzzyXA9Ck9QNtSIhTPNCOkN_Xb0d-Gr&index=5
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/20/trump-elon-musk-salute
Keep your eye on the matador, not the red cape being flashed to enrage you.
When Trump surrounds himself with Nazis it isn't a distraction, it's an open admission of his actual goals and agenda.
Trump is testing to see if he can get away with over ruling the Constitution by Executive Order.
Of course Elon platforms Nazis and promotes them on X. That is clear. But that's only one problem, and not the worst.
WTF could go wrong...
there are a lot of Americans in the U.S. today who are laughing and cheering at that Nazi salute. Many of them voted for the Trump party.
Ie they feel inadequate
https://bsky.app/profile/mls1.bsky.social/post/3lghdouucxk2o
And mark my words, they will sell...
"What the actual fuck Zeig Heil?"
same old same old.
I read his grandparents also swam in that sewer.
Gee...what could that be about??
Sieg Heil, mein Führer 🤚
Nope. Straight up nazi salute.
Nazis. Nobody else.
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You are absolutely right! This needs to be no less than a global resistance effort before it takes over the entire globe. Social media is responsible for brainwashing the masses. How can so many people want all this hatred and prejudice??
I just can't fathom it😟
We all need this now❤️
isn’t one of them.
What I don’t do is condemn on media conjecture and superficial nonsense… even people I don’t particularly like.
Also you're full of shit. Kid is Jewish so don't.
I honestly don't know what is worse: Knowing this and vote for Trump anyway, or knowing this and being too lazy to vote for Harris.
It's at the same time funny and sad to watch.
And of all the possible days on Dr. Martin Luther King jr. Day.
On any day the nazi salute is really f*cked up.
I expect this behavior grows more egregious over the next 4 years.
What are we going to do about it is the question
Dump Trump et al
Destroying America like no other- Impeach - Arrest
Rise up & call
202-224-3121
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Some say:
You don't support Nazism when you buy a Tesla.
I say:
How is that possible?
https://bsky.app/profile/mls1.bsky.social/post/3lghdouucxk2o
And who is "we?"
Those of us alarmed are not just Dems - we're independents, Greens, Libertarians, Socialists, more than a few Dick Cheney types. We're also alarmed that Dems seem to be sleep-walking thru this challenge, yet still demand our votes?
You know, sometimes I feel like the Dems are in on the whole scheme.
But anyway, I swear I meant no ill will.
For you see the text+image do not clearly specify the context and people like myself aren't always able to discern the real meaning.
Or is this perhaps an artist's or an activist's creation?
Or maybe it's just fake, AI, a joke, someone else's handy work?
Best I could tell, the first time the image went around, the symbol was painted/screenprinted onto a regular Trump sign.
If it had been an offical sign (or even non-offical-but-organized) there'd have been a lot of photos of the sign in different locations, instead of just one.
“A Prank?
Many users called out the sign displayed in the pictures as an apparent prank with "fake" signs (archived).
https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/10/28/trump-sign-swastika-barnwell/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1AdsHQHWlkXZ3JjCh6xceovqKIn2pMuoP7isdxdnJPmRXxDiaxW24E0MA_aem_h0n9YO45vQrBuN6dw18Ibg
I would suggest they aren't especially bright.
All your energy put into fabricating lies to serve your fantasy narrative
- Either you know it's a lie and you're complicit
- Or you're deeply retarded
The only 2 options
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He was probably just pumped and wanted a high-five and quickly realized nobody was within arm's length.
Too soon?
This is a global fascist movement.
Nie wieder Auschwitz!
Nie wieder ist jetzt!
1. People who see this and are horrified.
2. People who see this and love it.
3. People who see this and are horrified, but find a way to justify it because their sense of self is wrapped up in this "movement".
But the difference is that when Hitler came to power, times were ROUGH in Germany with people literally starving to death.
Meanwhile, Trump supporters are pissed off about the cost of eggs.
For a couple of generations now the status quo has been so good, and so seemingly inevitable, that we've lost all memory of past hard lessons.
Is that the way it always is?
Bonus if it upsets the libs.
1. Hate
2. “They” aren’t like us. We’re better.
If not history class, then -- movies, at least?
Works every fucking time, ends the same every fucking time. And we just refuse to learn.
I am so angry I can't express the rage properly.
Admitting they see it might also mean admitting they're cool w.Nazis, & they might not be ready to say that out loud just yet.
The reporting and mainstream media was so violently reshaped during the last 10 years that Trump can literally say fucking anything because "that's the way he is". It's all twisted.
I've been saying this for some time as well. "Why can't they see it??"
For the same reason many Germans refused to believe the Nazi party would kill minorities. Cognitive Dissonance.
Either their belief must change or their perception of the cause of dissonance changes. In this case contradictory evidence must be false, exagerated, or misconstrued.
History has been told to us all from everywhere, along with tears, since I am 10yo.
Our beaches are still scarred.
Can't describe the amount of rage I feel right now.
That is pure shame, Humanity level.
No, they aren't. Pretty soon you'll understand.
And yes, it's more than crystal clear.
That is the best way to help someone realize that they might be wrong about some things.
It’s made me very politically aware, with a desire to prevent fascism spreading further.
But I actually meant that we aren't taught HOW the nazis turned people. The drip feed of hate... That we're seeing again!
Hopefully this time, we can be wide awake. Farage is a wanna be dictator
They should be arrested as soon as they step foot on uk soil because they were clearly at a nazi rally!
Never again… but here we are. 😖
That is all I need to read. I may be in Canada, but we're right next door, and 100% we have fascist elements fighting us right now, as well.
May we all shine brightly in the darkness which has arrived.
Me and people I know watched it and were asking if I saw Musk giving that nazi salute.
No discussion what it might have been, the category of that move was clear to everyone at first glance.
https://bsky.app/profile/sixtus.net/post/3lgamjrrebs2w
#dumbassphone
https://www.topographie.de/en
I knew it was gonna get bad, but this is so effed up.
Thank you to your husband and to all the other Germans that are speaking out about this. I saw one response where they said their blood ran cold seeing him do that.
We see him.
We love you.🥰
Apartheid Clyde may have americanised it for his audience.
It’s a damn fucking fascist symbol - and should be called out as such.
That Fusk and Fuckerberg see themselves as the modern day Caesars is no secret.
I've a student here in FL who thinks flipping Nazi salutes at me is funny.
I played a video of a camp being liberated. Zero tolerance.
Where are completely f****d up.
Greetings from Germany.
We know where this path is leading to.
We need large scale public shunning of Elon Musk. For example, if he appears before a crowd, all decent people need to turn their backs to him.
That's who he is an most Americans idolize him for it. It's sick imo.
But it's never late for lead.
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One toke over the line
Sitting downtown in a railway station
One toke over the line
(Greetings from Germany..)
We MUST learn from our ancestors in 1930's and 1940's Germany, Poland, Netherlands, etc. WE CANNOT IGNORE THE SIGNS.
What year is it?
https://www.npr.org/2023/11/22/1214619331/advertisers-leave-elon-musks-x-after-their-ads-appeared-next-to-pro-nazi-posts
I know CNN got bought out by a far-right dude but Jesus
Whiners.
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conquered them, plaigiarized their religion
and bastardized their entire culture into the
perversions of Caligula and the Colosseum.
Beware of hate-filled child-like
men who speak about love which
they always mistake for penetration.
It’s my hope he will fly to close to the sun, it’s inevitable 🤔
Caught in the act
Not in my country. Not without a knock down drag out fight. I’m so beyond absolutely livid.
Repulsive and repugnant.
#WakeUpAmerica
Americans only know it as the Nazi salute as that is shown in history class. They know what it means, there's no denying it.
No offense
#FUQElon
#FreeWendy
Pessimism will get us nowhere.
🇺🇸 is many x larger & more diverse than 🇩🇪 in the 1930s.
Blue states have power.
Roberts & ACB just stood up to him.
DT/MAGA is fueled by fear. Don't give them any!
Be mad, not afraid!
Americans won't be pushed around.
Don't comply or give up in advance! 💪
especially in germany which was wracked by communist revolutions after the end of WW1 and which people remembered what they did