Menswear guy always brings me joy.
I do look at my clothes and know he'd be shaking his head - as much of what he says impacts women's clothing.
But he isn't mean. Just explains how clothes can flatter everyone and why they usually don't.
Agreed but because @kathryntewson.bsky.social is enough my friend she gives me fair warning to escape if she's about to lay into me, otherwise she would be on my list as well.
Stoller is the one coming off as more elitist. The men's wear guy is so good because he is authentic, his growth organic. People of all stripes appreciate when someone knows things and can show them to others. It's why Defunctland reaches beyond theme park nerds.
Menswear threads are so psychologically soothing to me, I have put myself to sleep so many times on his threads.
This & 1 other (dog) account are what have kept me over there but I have plan to leave Twitter anon.
As a man who has to wear suits it’s just very helpful to have someone say “here’s the traditional rules, here’s why they’re like that, here’s some good examples of people adhering to them, here’s how to break them in a fun and intentional way”
Matt Stoller calling Derek a snob because he doesn’t want men to look like they got dressed in the dark is so funny to me considering Matt’s background.
The reason Derek can so easily disarm and check these people is because afaict, he isn’t some career climber trying to impress future bosses. That can’t be said for a large portion of the “I’m a serious political commenter” class
/me looks at my constant outfit of fading t-shirt and jeans with frayed bottoms (neither due to aesthetic choice, I just wear clothes until they're unwearable) : Am I aristocratic enough?
I mean if you, like me don't give a shit
(too poor, 65^of my wardrobe is old stuff from other people, 20% thrift store. Rest undies&2 shirts I bought, one is from 03)
then he's not likely to do it.
These guys think of themselves as high class but can't be arsed to learn about how to project class
"mocks wardrobes for not being authentically aristocratic" is such a stupidly inaccurate description, too. He talks about how men's suits and the like are supposed to fit and why it looks wrong when they don't, including the history behind it. Wearing clothes that fit properly isn't "aristocratic."
Right - and to the OP’s point, he mocks right wing bigots for being inauthentic and fugly with high AND low fashion. Not just “not formal enough” but also “pretense of manliness while wearing clothing formerly coded female” etc
One of his long-running themes is how the traditional suit *isn't* coded as elite anymore, and you're a lot likelier to see a billionaire in a hoodie or a t-shirt these days than wearing a necktie.
And the clothes he praises do look better, they’re more flattering and the styles will look current longer so they’re worth investing in. And he shows a range of prices! And talks about buying vintage! He got me searching out vintage cashmere over new, because you can get much better quality for
the price of Uniqlo. My dad dresses in the elder professor version of the style he advocates for, and it’s a very easy uniform, one that you can make your own. Yes, it’s based on classic WASP style, but they don’t dress well anymore. The people who’ve taken it up are diverse and fabulous.
It's an interesting thing, but really the elite coding of the suit was, in reality, a very short lived phenomenon. The suit was just the generic clothing for all men, of all classes, until the latter half the 20th Century and only lasted until the rise of the "Tech Bro".
Previously the information about what made a suit look right, and how to fix it if not, was carefully hoarded by very rich people. The fact he’s explaining how it works for free is the opposite enforcing of aristocratic tradition.
If it helps, remembering you don't have to talk to anyone you don't want to and blocking the trifling is a good way to use social media. I don't sit next to loudmouths at bars or talk to disagreeable people in a line even if someone things they might have a point. Life is too short.
What we need is some kind of high level fashion figure to do/say something wildly out of pocket, then show up to the interview with both Chotiner and Derek waiting for them.
Or keep it light, just have them sit down with Fetterman to ask what the !#>!@ look he's going for (shrek on laundry day?)
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Menswear guy cuts precisely and bleeds you. You’re already dead, it just takes you a few minutes to notice.
I do look at my clothes and know he'd be shaking his head - as much of what he says impacts women's clothing.
But he isn't mean. Just explains how clothes can flatter everyone and why they usually don't.
This & 1 other (dog) account are what have kept me over there but I have plan to leave Twitter anon.
https://bsky.app/profile/dieworkwear.bsky.social
like me, but i do not pretend otherwise
Well......unless you're nasty in his replies
Thanks for posting his handle!
Can we talk about your...glasses...?
KIDDING!
(too poor, 65^of my wardrobe is old stuff from other people, 20% thrift store. Rest undies&2 shirts I bought, one is from 03)
then he's not likely to do it.
These guys think of themselves as high class but can't be arsed to learn about how to project class
I feel like he's a great example of consistent, kind, and honest critique.
Also, doesn't take shit or pull his punches. The balance is impressive.
Or keep it light, just have them sit down with Fetterman to ask what the !#>!@ look he's going for (shrek on laundry day?)