This one is exactly what I’ve been thinking about - and of course it wasn’t just de Gaulle doing the fighting!
I think Macron has exactly this in mind.
What I find surprising is that in the UK we don’t have our independence from these bigger powers in our psyche - lots of people who complained about the EU for no reason are happy to just do what America says!
Those are some great memes!
Along the lines I’d already been thinking.
French were never surrender monkeys anyway - the jokes at the time were about the Brits running away and leaving France to it!
It’s quite something to still be there after all this time - European counties in general can point to a lot of resilience if they have managed to exist until now.
Ukraine probably being the most or one of the most impressive though!
Wow. The replies are all apologia for why "we can't here". "The gvt would crack down". You mean like in Istanbul? Like in Belgrade? Did that stop them? This too is why the world looks down on you. International financial and environmental collapse is being precipitated and Americans be like:
Oh wow you were at all of those putting your body and life on the line!? Wow you're really someone to look up t- I'm sorry I'm getting a report you're in fucking Canada and didn't actually do goddamn anything in any of those places so shut the fuck up
2012, student protests against tuition increases were banned by the Québec provincial government. The next day and every single day afterwards, citizens went out into the streets at 6pm every night and hit pots and pans in protest. The government was overturned. Fuck you and your excuses. Be better.
I was going to make a general comment about how Québec goes as hard as France but your comments proved it with receipts. Thanks for that.
Recently said elsewhere that with ~417 yrs experience, QC knows about resistance. The ROC & rest of the world need to take notes. Je me souviens--franchement.
And yeah, I was there. And yeah, it was tense. Countless students were severely injured in clashes with police. Until the population rose up and said "enough". And that bill was NOWHERE as severe for the fate of mankind as your current shitshow.
In 2019, I was a lead organizer of what ended up being the largest single environmental march in history. By getting small businesses to advertise ahead of time that they'd be closed in solidarity, the entire 3 million+ metropolis ended up closed for business, on a Friday. Willingly. There are ways.
So you'll forgive our impatience with America's paralysis, complacency and self-righteous excuses. People all over the world are going to suffer from this fascist coup. Not just you. There shouldn't be Tesla protests, there should be a GENERAL fucking UPRISING. Nonviolent, but insistent. FFS.
Big Donnie & the Minions WANT us to go wild so they can gas the crowds, mow people down, crowd people into “feed lots” like cattle….they WANT martial law. They want us scared, begging and cowering.
We all know that he’s chomping at the bit to declare martial law, but make no mistake: He will do so anyway. If forced, he will create his own Reichtag -type situation in order to do so.
They woulda already ate the whole damned cake
taken her head and sacked the royalty...
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We should do huge protests that last days weeks straight just people coming and going camping cookouts bon fires all around maralago block the bridge with so many they can't move them all just loud as shit for weeks. Makes a peaceful golf weekend difficult.
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Better hurry the hell up Trump is preparing to go to war soon. Iran maybe. Once that kicks off the entire world will turn against us we do not have much time left. This needs to stop one way or another.
Tesla dealerships aren't counted? We're risking 20 years in a federal prison if we scratch a Tesla. I'm pretty sure that vandalism in France is a misdemeanor.
Not that I'd advocate that, but too many Americans just have this blind loyalty to the system. It's odd for a nation that celebrates a history of rebellion and tea party stuff.
The reason it works for them and not for you is that you are all tentatively waiting to see if others will go first, you don't trust each other to go out in ungovernable numbers.
The french do.. and if they see it on the news they get out there too, there's only so many jail and prison cells 🤷🏼♂️
But nobody has shown up for us in meaningful numbers or ways to affect permanent change. We're seeing all the companies and politicians who made statements about "being better" completely retreat from those statements.
That's not true at all; black and brown people have been protesting repeatedly in large numbers since 2015, and the only results we've seen have been laws that let police and private citizens brutalize and attack us, and Congressional Democrats wearing Kente cloth and kneeling for the cameras.
It’s important to know that black and brown people have done the heavy lifting here for generations. The people In calling out as timid and fearful are my fellow white people. Black and brown people are at so much more risk. Stop relying on others to do your own hard work.
But the others are correct too... French law is generally applied fairly, it would be very unusual for them to charge protestors as terrorists or insurrectionists
american government is corrupt to the core and doesnt care about their citizens
I'm not sure why you think European jails are comfy 🤔
And again, they can only deport people in small numbers, there's safety in large numbers.
But that's the difference, you feel safer not going out protesting and that's fine. A far bigger problem I would suggest is gun proliferation there... 🤷🏼♂️
In the US, we're pretty much all about one month from being homeless, and our healthcare is directly tied to our employment. Which, for roughly half of the US workforce, has no union protections whatsoever, so folks can be laid off for any reason.
That doesn’t help for sure… Thanks I understand better. But maybe it is the opportunity to make it change ? In France we didn’t gain nothing without a balance of power.
So funny story there, we've had a candidate who talked about raising wages for the working class, making more union protections available, and creating a system of healthcare for all.
And his party sabotaged him in the primary election 9 years ago.
In France, too, populism is on the rise. I hope we will find a way to push it back, but the international situation is not helping... one day we will need a global citizens' movement, but I don’t know how.
Ils ont mille et une excuses pour ne rien faire. Sauf se plaindre et demander aux autres pays de les aider maintenant qu'ils sont bien pris dans leur merde.
People in the USA work multiple jobs, have little free time, are lower educated, and less politically engaged. This has been done to them deliberately to reduce the ability to protest
Soon not so much. With the lay offs (paid through sept) of fed workers. And now sweeping layoffs (jeep, whirlpool and others). I think this spring/summer might be bigger. I fucking hope so.
First trip to Paris had to walk 3km from train station to hotel cos there was a protest. Asked hotel reception what they were protesting, they said “I don’t know, we are always protesting “ May the French always protest 💪
No we do. We’ve just never had a traitor in the White House. It’s a huge population that takes a while to wake up but we’ll get there. It took a long time to get people in the streets over Vietnam. Plus, Muskrat is leaving and you can’t tell me it doesn’t have anything to do with the Tesla action. 🇺🇸
France is the size of Texas. We have 6x the population over a much larger area and a police force that likes to kill us and look the other way when counterprotesters enact violence up to and including murder.
Maybe you waited too long to reach a situation like this, maybe the thinking that "until isn'thappening to me is fine" (the killings)....and maybe you thought that something like this wouldn't happen there....
It could be arranged state by state, but yeah police that have trained with IDF and are both shockingly violent and trigger-happy are a real deterrent. The US ticks a lot of boxes of a police state / authoritarian state.
It's not just fire arms. The size thing really matters. When you see photos of a large portion of the population flooding Paris there's a fundamental difference between it being a 4 hour drive and a 4 day drive (assuming no stops)
Exactly! We don’t have to burn things. All that needs to happen is for every working American to do a “Call In Sick Day”. I know the right-wingers won’t do it, but if everyone else does it, & then spends the day blocking highways & businesses, so that nothing gets accomplished, things will change.
I agree with you about health insurance and work. It’s more about how we pull together and truly boycott or really huge protests that are peaceful. I know our US police will also incite and this is why I urge my fellow white peoples to do this work, not black and brown people. They are at risk.
it’s also about the size of this country. My state is bigger than most european countries and most protests today are 1.5 to 2 hours from me. I live in a rural area.
You’d be surprised at how many people are killed yearly by our own blue fascists.
Certainly not at US numbers (thankfully and… for now?) but they do kill lots and maim many many others, in particular with flashballs aimed directly at the chest or head.
Yes they are. It’s interesting to ask other people if they are boycotting. The number of people I ask who tell me it’s inconvenient is astounding. Fascism is more than inconvenient.
Grocery shopping at Kroger instead of Wal-Mart and sold off any funds that included Tesla stock a month or two back. Amazon is proving harder to do without, but I have quite a Kindle backlog of yet-to-be-read.
You won’t get shot by non-police citizens for protesting. I’m a dual citizen with the US and every time I’m in a crowd I worry about that. At least in Europe I’m only in danger of stabbing or a lorry. Lorries are easy to spot. Stabbing don’t take out dozens of people in under a minute.
This. It’s becoming scary and dangerous to protest not only because the police are emboldened by the Regime to commit Human Rights violations, but also because armed domestic terrorists are supported by the Regime to massacre dissenters. The Proud Boys have started showing up at #TelsaTakedown
The American media has problems with fire. Someone starts one in a trash can, whatever the protest was about is lost in endless replays of 'Fire in the trash can.'
Well, we have burned some Teslas. You know we’re pretty big country. A lot of protesting though going on and a lot more is going to happen. Watch the space.
They also started a revolution, locked up the royals, and engaged in mass guillotine executions.
I'd be concerned if I were in Congress. History might repeat itself.😏
Americans burned things. We smashed things. We even painted things.
The question is: why’d we do all that?
The answer, and this is true in France as well, is because cops murder black people. France hasn’t fixed that, despite burning and smashing and painting. Neither have we.
France is a lot smaller geographically so when people burn things more folks tend to notice. It’s extremely easy for protests in giant landmasses like ours to go completely unregarded
Steve Bannon imported Trump’s politics from the LePens who were promoting fascist ideology for decades. They just dodged the bullet because their elections are direct popular vote.
They want public violence so they can enact martial law. Then they don’t need search warrants or the courts. They can terrorize at a whole new level. And they win.
Peaceful at all costs.
Don’t touch those conveniently unguarded stacks of bricks that have been turning up at protest locations.
That’s because Americans as a whole are brainwashed, dumbed-down, and unable to think critically, which is the result of anti-communist brainwashing by every administration since Truman.
Last time we rioted there was a massive push to frame it as looting and criminal, the article below is just a reminder of the disdain around the narrative of the BLM protests
I live in France and was just saying that to someone yesterday! France would have been 'lit' by now if all that mess was happening!!! N. Americans have gotten so comfortable they have forgotten what protest looks like!
Tbh, I don't see any way out of this for the US other than to shut the country down economically, meaning, massive and enduring strikes/marches/protest. Republican lawmakers will support scump ONLY to the degree to which THEIR interest remain advantageous!
They do, there are always violent factions (Nazis/Extreme-Right) who infiltrate the protest and cause violence (normal French people just burn tires 😂). They are the ones targeted by the special forces. But, the longer the protest continue the more difficult it is for the Gov. to simply ignore them.
Yes, I can imagine, here that is a 'normal' occurrence during protest. Crack-down comes when other things (cars, buildings, etc.) start being affected by the fires. But tire bon-fires are left alone as long as they do not present any imminent danger, and they can burn for weeks on end!
We’re definitely not comfortable and many of us are livid, but I do agree that we need to step up the game. We’re extremely spread out and are protesting weekly but the vibe needs to change 100%. France knows how to do it. We need to learn FAST.
I understand that you may not be comfortable, now, but, historically, (white) American has rested far too comfortably regarding the inequality and injustices within its shores.
The apathy is deeply entrenched and requires heavy grass roots effort to shift. People "don't want to talk politics" and the message needs to be that this is a highly unusual time and what's happening isn't well defined as "politics"
This. 100%. Many people I engage tell me ‘I can’t watch the news it’s too stressful’. If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem. I’m hoping the small but numerous actions lead to something much bigger. Hopefully I’m not too naive
What is positive is that there seems to be more and more white people who are willing to be vocal (as opposed to simply being silently aware) regarding racism and oppression. And as black people have long said, racism is a white people's invention and a white people's problem, only THEY can fix it!
True, we did help you to get your independence, but, the example is being set further east of France as well. In fact, there are many examples, S. Africa and throughout the Caribbean, for example...
Truth is, white occidentals are just not used to being oppressed!
Like Bush and Cheney left in handcuffs? Or Reagan and Bush? Or Trumpsies when he tried to end democracy the first time. Oh yeah. We're totally a "patient bunch". Lol
...that patience clock has just about run out, too little too late will be too little too late! This is what I meant by 'comfortable'...there is no luxury of time...
"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing once all other options are exhausted."
Trump's enablers are like the Ponzi scheme. Sooner or later, he is going to run out of them. 30% voted for him, and more of those are turning against him. Give it time, this too shall pass.
yeah unfortunately we have a very militarized police who are more than happy to shoot us dead. they have before (look up atlanta cop city). we’re considering what’s safest for us. we can’t enjoy the fruits of our efforts if we’re dead. right now we’re doing economic boycott, which is working.
I get your point, dead doesn't help, protest has to consider context and be 'smart' to be effective!
That said, there was already a problem if the US police/armed forces were THAT easily unleashed upon citizens, and black/brown people have been telling you that for CENTURIES! Remember?!! 😉
the wealthy elite in the US have sold their souls to the devil; not even threats on their lives are fully effective. they know where they’re heading when they kick the bucket. they only thing they care about is their money, and losing their money is the only thing they seem to respond to.
I would go even further and suggest that the US sold its soul to the Devil, through enslavement, oppression, white systemic racism, worshipping materialism and measuring 'success' using a financial-worth gauge! Seems the Devil has come to collect....
No, people are not comfortable. They are not lazy. We have very limited mainstream free press. Trump says he will declare martial law if he detects any threat of anger in protestors. If that happens he can call the entire armed services to clamp down. It is over at that point. 1/2
Not at all, but acting out, lighting up the streets as the French might do, as the US has done in the past has very certain consequences we have never experienced.I think most protestors are weighing what is the most effective protest. Boycotts prove to be powerful,if not very sexy or exciting.
He will not call out the armed forces on peaceful protest, and he cannot ignore protest that literally shut the economy down (as would do declaring martial law) and call for his impeachment, nor can/will the media. Where's that?!
Yes he will. He will most definitely call out the armed services if we “ lit up the streets. This is very much part of the plan to takeover as an authoritarian. See Orban, See Millei in Argentina. See Netanyahu.We have a million marching every week at hundreds of events.We need press. Read P 2025.
What about times in the past when far right militia types infiltrated protests, committing violent/destructive acts, in order to brand protestors as unlawful? You don’t think the pardoned 1/6 prisoners he released are ready at Trump’s signal?
There are many different fronts being fought here, including protecting the judiciary and rule of law. You don’t have ICE agents disappearing people who protest. Will they keep burning shit if they’re afraid of being sent to a prison in El Salvador?
Interesting diversion, but all my commentary was with regard to those there able to protest, not the disappeared.
That said, your being American, I am not surprised that you seem both unwilling and unable to consider that peoples of other nations 'handle' their issues differently than you do!
I’m pretty sure l didn’t resort to insulting you or the French. I’m perfectly aware of the long and deservedly proud history of French protest. But this is fucking different; refusing to acknowledge it and the real danger is not helpful strategy on dealing with it.
We are spoiled rotten. And the generation that did know hardship is dead… the ones alive, brainwashed by Fox News. But don’t count us out yet. Gen Z is quiet now but pissed off.
I used to think it was that we were lazy, or scared that our police will just shoot us. Both are true but the real reason you rarely see big numbers in the streets is that we’re a totally fragmented society, every man for himself in competition. We can’t risk helping someone else get ahead of us.
I agree. And yet, my 73 year old mother (who had never been to a protest until a Tesla Takedown 4 weeks ago) with a bum knee is headed to DC from NJ early in the morning. I'm headed to Trafalgar Sq in London.
Yeah if it gets bad enough we tend to remember we are in the same boat. If we could just remember that when things are better maybe things could stay that way.
France's political culture has a much greater tolerance for violence directed at property than the US. It was one of the things I found most striking. That said, I'd say the CRS probably deploys as much violence as US policing, and possibly more.
Americans are full of fear and complacency. Years of mental abuse and trauma have brought us here. We are a society of narcissistic abusers and the empaths taking the hit. People forget they hold their own power inside them.
I'll add that French CRS riot police are seriously brutal and penalties are in France are very harsh. So stop with the excuses. It's just Yanks have no guts and used to bending the knee.
They would have got the Black Bloc going in no time. And broken a lot of stuff.. that's why the French standard of living, health, life expectancy etc.. is so so much higher than the US. They don't let themselves get fucked over. Ever since the 17th century where they beheaded their king.
Americans protested with BLM, the Ferguson Uprising, and Occupy and many of them lost an eye or experienced life changing injuries. Don't forget that the police here are far, far more violent than those in Paris so the costs for us are higher.
"OnJanuary 21, 2019, Libération's Checknews counted 144 seriously injured among the Gilets Jaunes protesters and journalists, 92 of whom were injured following shots from defense ball launchers."
Many eyes and hands were lost during these protests.
I see, then, that the Paris police have been training with the NYPD. Have there been large protests in Paris since those in 2019? Were the injuries as widespread or as serious?
Then in summer 2023, two cops headshot killed a 17 yo kid, falsly pretending he tried to run away.
Big protests again, with a lot of police violence too
We had a big one in 2023 for the retirement.
Our government sent 2-cop-bikes against protesters : the front cop rides, the backseat cop hits. Very efficient.
3 months, 700+ arrests (very few trials), thousands injuries (they won't tell), at least one dead, alt right helping cops.
A big one.
In France, the police have also become violent! Macron was so scared during the "Gilets Jaunes" riots that he has since given the police more power and considerably increased their equipment (weapons, anti-demonstration vehicles), while cutting social budgets. And he has banned many demonstrations
As a French I should say that when you have a march every week in Paris it becomes less meaningful the day something really important happens. Also it would require more courage to the US citizens since they could actually get killed in a protest against Trump…
C'est ça exactement ! My husband will go to the demonstration this Saturday in Wash DC & I'm afraid Dump will call out the National Guard. I marched at the huge "Pussyhat" demo in January 2017 & it was so crowded, we couldn't move for 20 minutes. Effrayant ! I'm going to a smaller one locally
The French can also cartwheel to their nations capitol from any of their countries border in less than a day. Texas alone takes at least 4 days to drive across. Not everyone can take that kind of time off just to drive to the capitol to protest.
No one takes the size of this country into account. People have been protesting in my small town in NM, but no one covers it. Our vast size is a disadvantage. We have to be more strategic.
Violence = scary here. In France the government doesn't kidnap you and send you to a concentration camp in El Salvador, without due process. Could happen here. Europe is free - here Trump is behaving like Putin. Scratch a Tesla it's an act of terrorism, up to 20 yrs in prison. Don't trust Trump.
I mean, sure but what I'd like to know is... when on strike or running extended protests or sitting in jail from burning said stuff how the hell are these folks paying rent, buying groceries, covering bills? Like not being snarky, cause that might answer why we *don't* do that shit here often.
There’s always a risk you could go to El Salvador if you’re arrested. The protestors in other countries are not getting sent to all El Salvador prisons. Just have to keep an eye on your surroundings at protests .
Well, as it stands, there are specific conditions that need to be met for that to happen, but Trump & Co. demonstrated last time they're not above snatching folks up with masked men in unmarked vehicles.
Umm no we didn't. He's a false flag instigator trying to trick dumb Americans into burning the nation b/c France is pissed at the U.S. France, Canada & Europe should have NEVER been "friends" to a nation w/ such heinous human rights atrocities as the U.S. in the 1st place.They all racist together.
Gaslighting won't work. If what that false flagger suggest is so GREAT then do it in his country & not be on blksky tryin set up & scapegoat blk ppl 2 do THEIR dirty work. The Euro diaspora coddled white American racist ego til it overflowed, this is the monster they helped raise. They need 2 fix it
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Make the greedy fuck-mooks understand we are not rolling over and dying just so they can horde.
I think Macron has exactly this in mind.
Be able to destroy russia !
What I find surprising is that in the UK we don’t have our independence from these bigger powers in our psyche - lots of people who complained about the EU for no reason are happy to just do what America says!
Along the lines I’d already been thinking.
French were never surrender monkeys anyway - the jokes at the time were about the Brits running away and leaving France to it!
French face surnumerous german ennemies multiple time... and is still there !
Ukraine probably being the most or one of the most impressive though!
https://www.instagram.com/tessaron_news_3/reel/DH_mP3DRmoc/
This Saturday April 5th is the next one.
We won't stop until we stop them.
Also...
July 27 - Save the Date
Get ready for the "Money Out of Politics" march!
Citizens Uniting AGAINST Citizens United.
Recently said elsewhere that with ~417 yrs experience, QC knows about resistance. The ROC & rest of the world need to take notes. Je me souviens--franchement.
by now they would have BURNED TRUMP and MUSK
Seriously.
It’s just a matter of time…
taken her head and sacked the royalty...
74 measly days in good life has become
so threatened
it is becoming so tiresome
Cake crumbs obviously
won't be enough!
2025 there are still
more of US
Let's US
Start a go fund me for the guillotine
NOW
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Where are the manure spreaders? Where are the bails of silage dumped at Tesla dealerships?
I remember watching French firefighters setting themselves on fire and charging the police during protests.
Also the administration has made it abundantly clear that it's only safe for white people to riot en masse.
The french do.. and if they see it on the news they get out there too, there's only so many jail and prison cells 🤷🏼♂️
Read up on Target's current losses versus Costco's current gains.
the big numbers make the difference
But the others are correct too... French law is generally applied fairly, it would be very unusual for them to charge protestors as terrorists or insurrectionists
american government is corrupt to the core and doesnt care about their citizens
Prisons w/ an appalling record of human rights abuses?
Because that would be the best parallel.
How’s life for those Europeans recently imprisoned in the USA for minor visa infractions?
As comfy as a European jail?
And again, they can only deport people in small numbers, there's safety in large numbers.
But that's the difference, you feel safer not going out protesting and that's fine. A far bigger problem I would suggest is gun proliferation there... 🤷🏼♂️
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/canadian-detained-us-immigration-jasmine-mooney
And his party sabotaged him in the primary election 9 years ago.
This is America.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/authorities-investigate-damaging-fire-new-mexicos-gop-headquarters-rcna198817
Americans dont really care about democracy
It’s time for true American Patriots to raise arms against the red hats 🗽
American cops routinely kill people.
Do your cops do this?
Certainly not at US numbers (thankfully and… for now?) but they do kill lots and maim many many others, in particular with flashballs aimed directly at the chest or head.
https://portside.org/2024-09-10/quiet-rollout-cop-cities-across-us-meets-growing-resistance
The protestors marching were sining, " 'Hey Mike, hey Harris. We're gonna shut you down like Paris". :)
I'd be concerned if I were in Congress. History might repeat itself.😏
The question is: why’d we do all that?
The answer, and this is true in France as well, is because cops murder black people. France hasn’t fixed that, despite burning and smashing and painting. Neither have we.
Why?
HANDS OFF‼️
Peaceful at all costs.
Don’t touch those conveniently unguarded stacks of bricks that have been turning up at protest locations.
Truth is, white occidentals are just not used to being oppressed!
Again, that part about "comfortable"...
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/04/04/obama_we_got_complacent_with_democracy_you_may_have_to_do_something_and_possibly_sacrifice_a_little_bit.html
Trump's enablers are like the Ponzi scheme. Sooner or later, he is going to run out of them. 30% voted for him, and more of those are turning against him. Give it time, this too shall pass.
That said, there was already a problem if the US police/armed forces were THAT easily unleashed upon citizens, and black/brown people have been telling you that for CENTURIES! Remember?!! 😉
No excuses, but this is way fucking different.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/03/25/us/fbi-task-force-tesla-attacks-hnk
That said, your being American, I am not surprised that you seem both unwilling and unable to consider that peoples of other nations 'handle' their issues differently than you do!
https://www.masslive.com/news/2025/04/ice-pulled-a-tufts-student-off-the-street-new-docs-reveal-what-happened-next.html
https://bsky.app/profile/marcofoster.bsky.social/post/3llwmpzbo5s25
Unfortunately, it appears as though we have.
Many eyes and hands were lost during these protests.
Big protests again, with a lot of police violence too
Our government sent 2-cop-bikes against protesters : the front cop rides, the backseat cop hits. Very efficient.
3 months, 700+ arrests (very few trials), thousands injuries (they won't tell), at least one dead, alt right helping cops.
A big one.
The guillotine took care of it.
And actually, the police were given MORE cover to continue doing the exact same things.