Can someone explain why TikTok is a bigger national security concern than a social media platform run by a South African technofeudal oligarch actively interfering in our elections and sabotaging our national interests here and abroad?
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yes. China is a competitor while elon is someone using the american system to enrich himself. One of those things has an army fueled by anti-western ideology. The other is rage baiting troll fueled by ketamine. One has nukes the other doesn't
China (as well as our other adversaries & our own gov't) simply buys data from data brokers who can & do literally sell it to anyone. if you think the Chinese gov't needs tiktok to get our data then Zuckerberg thanks you for spreading his propaganda 🫡
right but then why can't they give us evidence of these operations? the whole "trust me, bro" thing coming from the same Congress that lets twitter, meta & Google run propaganda & surveillance campaigns is disingenuous if I'm being kind.
I guess you could arrive here if you just ignore the well documented election interference from Putin...I wouldn't ignore Putin, personally, I don't want to be defenestrated.
All I can tell you is that both the first Trump and the Biden administrations were deeply concerned about Tiktok and the Supreme Court decision was unanimous—when the Supreme Court is deeply divided. I find this worrying.
I agree with you on all this but what does him being South African have to do with anything? I'm kind of sick of people ostensibly on the left using his immigration status against him. It's gross, it's anti-immigrant and it goes against everything the left claims to stand for.
He absolutely is
But listing his South African origins as if that's a problematic quality of his makes people on the left sound like hypocrites about immigration.
Honestly, I don't care anymore about what people think of progressives. We have lost so much because we on the left are afraid to say things, not "follow norms", hurt feelings, be impolite, etc. It's just stupid and I for one am sick of it. If people don't like what I say, don't read it.
TikTok has always been of the US radar for long, due to Chinese influence and interest on the platform - we all know the US - China relationship, on the other hand, Elon Musk is a US citizen, only took over X about 2yrs ago, I don't think the government sees any threat from it for the now
Yes & with all the data collection intelligence agencies use since 9/11 the FBI now wants us to believe that terrorist cells are in our country but they have no idea where they could be. Any attack that happens they fully knew about before hand. I call BS on that.
I found it interesting how 1 day, out of the blue, the Pentagon requested that TT be banned from federal devices, esp of those with clearances besed on NTLSec. The file is supposed to be heavily redacted. It sounds like there was a breach.
Yep a Felon who stole boxes and boxes of government files and kept them in an unlocked bathroom for any 'visitors' to read. In many countries you can be shot for that!
Tik tok shows me Israel’s atrocities-Demonic images i will never unsee of the IDF torturing Palestinians. Our govn’t knows this and is silencing it just like Putin would do.
Why does one need to see such atrocities to know they exist? What about their families ? I think, like snuff films or child sex - it has NO place on media outlets. Respectfully.
I think it’s personal choice. I think people have no understanding of what warfare is like until they actually see the atrocities. We are way too fast to send our service people into a gun fight. We need to be intimate with the violence so that we will actually do something about it.
During the Vietnam War, the anti war perspective was that watching the atrocities occur while having dinner made the televised attrocities seem fictionalized and less powerful. There's lots of healthy room for disagreement -
Clearly that's true. I never have partaken of tiktok personally but I'm an anachronism. I believe Netanyahu should be imprisoned for life for crimes against humanity - because of the suffering he's engineered. Not just this war but for years and years before, maybe since Yasser Arafat ?
Wrong. Educating people about the truth helps when you show them evidence. Keeping it in the dark does nothing. You can say to someone Israel is killing a lot of Palestinians but you can’t convince them how truly horrific it is until they see it. AIPAC pays a crapload of money to hide the truth.
One other kindly intended comment: an opinion isn't right or wrong : it's meant to be explored openly and to provide alternative perspectives from which to broaden our views. Opinions aren't end results, they form the road to somewhere about which we can eventually agree :)
I tell people to watch 3 documentaries on YouTube for free. Gaza Fights for Freedom, 5 Broken Cameras, and the Occupation of the American Mind to see the full truth. AND as a survivor of childhood sexual assault by my own father and my mother shaming me into believing it was my fault causing me to
Absolutely. We’ve been gaslit since 1948. It’s about time the truth comes out.
I grew up Republican and the most i knew of Palestinians was they’re war-happy monsters who kill Jews. I had no tik tok. No internet. No opposing view. Real Information is gold.
I never advocate secrets. I like my mind clear and unfettered but that doesn't mean I need to see all the haefulness and carry it as well as the constant barrage of issues to be attended to. I believe videos of horrific events numb our senses to them, respectfully.
Or, an alternative perspective, you were selectively shown content that is known to depress the vote among left leaning citizens, helping Trump get into office.
TikTok is what Twitter used to be - a site breaking news and covering the world at large. Then Elmo swooped in and destroyed it for ‘reasons’; the same as will happen when TikTok is ‘saved’ by the orange one. Another billionaire will have their very own propaganda machine.
There's plenty of truth still being posted on Twitter by anti- Zionist Jews truth telling and distancing themselves from Israel's atrocities too, if you can't cope with Al Jazeera.
Wanna talk morality? You're simping for a terrorist religious extremist group who murders anyone with different beliefs or falls into the LGBT group, who use children as shields, kidnaps civilians, and treats women like baby ovens. I'm saying Israel has the right to defend themselves from terrorism
Both are
It's not a which is worse thing
The Tik Tok ban was started sooner
CCP watches data from users and controls the narrative as well as learning how to implement its propaganda campaigns
So does X
This is a very good question? And, while we are kicking that around what about the other platforms that also lack threat checks, checks on posting of false statements and civil decency. Facebook and Instagram.
My thoughts are they are one and the same and are actually providing each other info to disinform and divide. Every take down would have helped had we done it a decade ago. Now? Feels like closing the barn doors after someone burnt down the barn.
Its not. Poor people were talking and educating themselves. They wanted to nip the problem in the bud before it grew into a revolution. The anti China rhetoric is to 1. be an excuse and 2. attempt to make Americans hate an "other" in order to accept our shitty government.
Also, Tictok had a LOT of money flowing through it from the shop and all the ads and very little of it went to big corporations, so those big corporations bribed our government to get rid of it. Like everything else in the US, it's all about money and control.
And all those Congress people who voted last January to ban it, then turned around and bought Meta stock, hoping the ban would eliminate the competition and drive the stock value up.
It’s a little alarming how many people want to believe their own narrative than the clearly stated, documented, and proven (to the Supreme Court AND Congress) security threat. You keep using a piece of software that is problematic … and you refuse to voluntarily stop. Wild.
I love that you are now a legal expert who can determine when a court decision is poorly written. We’ve got legal experts, political experts, fire experts, weather experts, architectural experts, engineering experts all clogging social media.
What seems clear is that Tik Tok users are so addicted to the platform that they will ignore ALL warnings of threat, which have been issued for years. I agree more than ever that Americans seem to have no common sense.
I don’t agree to disagree. You’re just wrong. You want to keep using a product you’ve been told over and over is dangerous. There’s no agreeing to disagree here.
Surveillance flyovers happen all the time. They're not actually a big deal. And satellites exist.
Like, they could rent a few cessnas, file flightplans, and just go from private airport to private airport with cameras out the window. That'd get zero press.
There's TONS of ways for foreign intel to get whatever they want without you knowing. So many, that something like the balloons (there were several, and very widely spread) doesn't make sense as a spying platform.
Everything about the panic about the balloons was BS.
I think you are missing the point. I was using the surveillance “blimp” as an example of the lengths (and brazenness) they will go to for espionage. There is far more data available to them on TikTok, so what makes you think they won’t use it?
There's no data on TikTok that isn't already being sold on the open market. The claims against TikTok and the balloon are largely fearmongering nonsense.
There *could* be an argument made that the algorithm of Tiktok could be used for messaging. That's technically true.
Did you forget about the BOXES of security documents found in a bathroom? Did you forget that WHATAPP was used by Kushner to discuss sensitive security plans with UAE ON HIS OWN PHONE? Didja forget that HE didn't have a security clearance because of his financial situation? Didja?
Nor was I condoning it. In fact, it’s ridiculous that nothing was done about it. But that doesn’t mean we accept other risks? Besides, Trump is cutting a deal, you aren’t losing TikTok…despite the fact it’s the ONE thing both sides of the aisle seem to have agreed to…
Both sides agreed on it because the corrupt politicians were bribed by American companies to get rid of Tictok. Don't fool yourself into believing the US government cares about its citizens.
Yass, a billionaire out of PA gave Trump over 400M for his campaign, and poured another 400M into other GOP campaigns. He owns 15% of Tik-Tok's parent company. It will be back. But look here, we're stopping spying; while tons of security docs sit in a bathroom with complete immunity.
Trump is not going to accomplish anything. American companies want the data of 180 million Americans to make money themselves and an algorithm they can’t create cause they lack actual creativity and innovation. If I were TikTok, I would delete the servers on 1/19 for funsies.
Yass out of PA, billionaire gave 400M to Trump, with another 400M to other GOP. He owns 15% of the parent company of TikTok. It's not going anywhere, he makes far too much money. It will switch hands. Meanwhile, unsecured documents sit in a bathroom in FL while the "borrower" has immunity.
How many times has FB / IG been hacked and personal information stolen? How many insurance companies, credit card, banking, insurance, etc. ad nauseam been hacked with personal information about Americans STOLEN? And in FB case, allowed Cambridge Analytica to USE said data to create political ads.
Interestingly, the impending ban on TikTok in the US is driving American TikTokers to the Chinese platform. In other words, almost zero control over contributions from the US side.#tiktok
Like Biden said last night. Social Media sites are the biggest pushers of misinformation. The educated smart ones can tell the difference between what's real and what's fake. Sadly those who voted for Schtrump will be left holding empty promises while the fan will be spreading shit on their faces.
There is no doubt that they'll get a reality check. Only problem, will they realize it or simply make an excuse like this this Red Cap wearing imbecile...
Biden presented the treasonous leaders as fit to lead by refusing to speak about the leaders who led the coup attempt and by saying he'd be very fortunate to run against Trump in 2024. Fools who praise to Biden are just like fools who praise Trump.
No, they aren't. His incompetence was not wanting to go against the will of the people. The people VOTED to have abortion illegal.
Biden is an easy target when you don't want to question your own behavior
You just confirmed the fact that Biden stayed neutral and didn't target his political apponent. He sat by while the Jan 6th Commitee did their work and eventually Garland woke up albeit too late. It's called separation of powers and not an oligarchy...
This "they are both basically the same" is such nonsense. It's like comparing a house cat to a badger. One (the cat), not everyone likes them but most are friendly and the other (the badger) hates everyone and will try to kill you.
Cat=dems
Badger=repubs
Stop saying they're the same.
Biden had faith in unity, democracy and its institutions.
His administration guided us out of a pandemic and global recession to have an economy that’s the envy of the world.
But half of our idiot nation cannot understand that, how tariffs work or that talking heads don’t tell the truth.
I thought the more educated people were going to fact check the information on social media, but they don't. I have friends and relatives, they only listen to Fox News. They live in an alternative world and they believe everything. Scary 😨
And the MAGA nation will roar with delight as they are force fed the shlite. As long as they feel empowered to hate, be overgrown snotty children, and thrill to decent people being hurt, they are ecstatic having their pockets picked.
Same here. Problem with that is it depends on what sources ppl use to cross-check. Lots of media set up specifically to create impression of fact by replicating content. Some replicate content just as a cheap way to have a publication--not intending disinfo.
The best sources are the non American ones to the exception of a few. Cohen, Packman and the Meidastouch brothers all report the same facts as RadCan and BBC World News do.
The Chinese government didn't buy the latest American election. Nor have they threatened to primary any Republicans who oppose Trump. You're misinformed.
Sorry but the one misinformed here is you. Both China and russia are dictatorships that want the US to vanish from the Earth. Since they don't have the military force to do so, they are trying to destroy it using agents from inside.
Also, they use it to collect data, especially of ex-Chinese citizens that ran away to the west for humanitarian reasons in order to blackmail them and force them to return to their country.
Trump and Musk have primarily the same objectives as Russia and China, to become dictators and to destroy American democracy, which in effect will cause the US to vanish from the earth. And if you watched Trump in Helsinki, you'd know that Putin controls him. Don't believe everything you think.
I perfectly know this and you won't find a nice comment about either of those traitors in my history... but this is no excuse to open the doors of your country for the enemy by ignoring their actions especially against the youth. Unfortunately the schools didn't teach any of them how to protect...
Which is owned by a foreign national who is so rightwing he even tried to stop 3 of his kids from interfering in the business after he dies, because he thinks they aren't conservative enough.
Well, the concern is by Chinese law, they must provide data to the government if they ask. In the US, there are some rules around what can and can't be provided and some level of due process, but in reality that may be a distinction without a difference. 😅
A number of the companies I work with in the UK and the US specifically rule out any company whose data is held in a US data centre on the basis it can be accessed by the US government.
Dead on. Rules don’t matter to the people who are taking over our country. Trump and Musk and many of their pals are already sharing everything they know and promising to offer up the US to the highest bidder.
i see now both biden and musk/trump are trying to find ways around the law Months ago both agreed it was a national security concern. Trump changed his mind when a big tic toc shareholder donated to him. Why biden? Anyone know why the flip flop?
National Security = Oligarch Security. The oligarch is threatened by free speech that they can't control. They only like the "free speech" they can control in X, Meta...
That has been my perspective. TikTok may indeed be a threat to US national security, but it is no more so than X, Facebook, etc, etc. If the US needs to ban TikTok, it should ban all social media for the same reason.
John Oliver did an excellent episode on this, which touches on that exact point:
I know its popular to think the United States gov't is the same as the dictatorship in China but besides the populist notion of that, it isn't true.
We've already seen multiple countries come down on Meta & Google for data privacy. Believe it or not the US has laws protecting online privacy, too.
No I do not think US gov is “is the same” as China’s. I do worry the new admin will move us toward fascist oligarchy.
Still, US social media could be just as bad for us. For all we know, Elon Musk could be using X for blanket surveillance then selling that information to his buddies in the Kremlin.
He might try that under a Trump DOJ, I doubt he did the last 4 years. Also, again other western democracies have shown to have more regulatory teeth than the US.
My point is maintained by example. And even the US has regulatory controls...enforcement won't be happening the next four years.
My point is that we don't know what Musk has or will do. The tech bro ethos is to do whatever the hell they want (often in secret) until lawsuits or gov action force them to stop. Then come up with another anti-social scheme and wait for push back to that. They are no better for us than TikTok.
I think you're getting ahead of yourself. Elon might not be too anxious after the $44 billion loss destroying Twitter but he might just do it to add to his dystopian online empire though.
But...if Elon does take it on, he'll be subject to regulatory control while China never will.
The myriad number of apps for use in China all have the same requirement. Data belongs to the state.
Do laws need to be tightened up in western democracies? They certainly do. However no law push by a democracy gets traction in China, who have strong privacy laws but not for the Chinese gov't.
The tik tok app allows China government to control the users phone and listen to conversations in the room, observe whats happening in the room or meeting or vicinity, identify people near or in vicinity, track where user travels, who they visit, also family, friends, co workers,neighbors, buildings
Assuming that is true, there is no evidence to suggest that other apps, such as X and Facebook, do not provide exactly the same opportunities for spying.
Well, of course China like No Korea and some in Russia spy on everyone
But think it's started here in states like Texas allow people to report women for abortions.. Other states probably have similar..
Think dRump won't do re immigrants, media, in military etc... It will be baddd here
MAGAs were furious over Vivek's and President Musk's insistence on importing H-1B immigrants to perform jobs beyond their capabilities. So, Vivek was sacrificed as an offering to the MAGAts demanding blood.
Against the backdrop of TikTok being blocked in the US, zoomers moved en masse to another Chinese app, Xiaohongshu. There, they were surprised to discover that the Chinese were not so evil and began to befriend them, and the Chinese app flew into the top 1 in downloads.
The funniest thing: since Xiaohongshu does not have a built-in translator, zoomers from the US rushed to learn Chinese - the number of students in Duolingo increased by 216%. 🤣
I’ve wondered what the big concern is with TikTok as well. Understand it better after hearing this interview on the Late Show with Stephen Colbert. Although I also agree that something has to be done about other social media platforms.
Well, I'd agree, except I sort of prefer FFOTUS.
Always nice to be recognized as having been the First.
As far as his Apartheid Boy Blunder? Yup. Owned.
This is the guy who will open a lot of really bad doors for the FFOTUS. I can't even...
They all suck but China is a foreign adversary and I saw the worst of the worst misinformation and lies coming from that platform. Especially during covid. China ain’t one of our little friends.
Ok friends all attentions here please. We need to cut off this 🐍 head like now. I’m sers, if you are on that plat you are causing big big probs. Pls remain a team member…..
Omg omfg 😬😬😬😬🤯🤯🤯🤯 I blame TT for normalizing this shit. Now everyone’s is addicted, n moving over to the new platform. Fuck, fuck. What is the shit you ask? Info gathering n Red from the East prop. Read that back
My friend on TikTok watches too many cat and dance videos. My (ex)friend on X thinks Donald Elon and Vivek will save America from invading criminal brown people and lower her rent, thinks Diddy lit LA on fire, vaccines are a hoax and Michelle Obama is a man. I choose TikTok
I volunteer with guys who think space aliens have a giant subterranean governmental complex where they govern us through Biden who is a hologram. They too think Michelle Obama was born a man and transitioned and are at a loss to explain how she had children. They think NATO markets kids for sex.
Oh my God. That's...a lot Wow. What happened to them in their life to come to that?
Re Mrs Obama..they've not seen a photo of her pregnant so that means it didn't happen. But if they see a photo it's definitely fake and so it didn't happen🤷♀️
Sounds a lot like things I’ve heard. Got one better, I’ve been told by MAGAts Project 2025 was written by Democrats and then in their same breath it didn’t exist.
That's the most common and frustrating tactic about talking to one of the brainwashed maga people. They cling on to lies and then when you corner them with the truth they refuse to stay on subject and just answer a simple yes or no question
And if you refuse to change topic with them and continue to respond..they have none of it..continue to divert. It's crazy. Interesting to hear others experienced same
I really want to know, other than their dislike of DEI, what Democrats did that was so wrong?
How is treating each other with dignity & respect such a hateful thing?
Why are MAGAts against everything Democrats believe in?
We’ve saved SS & Medicare so many times, saved Farmers so many times, with
~ Hierarchy ~
some ppl need it to thrive. It was studied (sadly) in high school clic’s - they get a dopamine hit by rejecting others. Being “top dog”, as it were.
See that as a habit[or addiction, your choice] and the petty, selfish soap-box adults make a lot more sense.
Little bullies grow into big bullies I've experienced both at school and work The being targeted The people who LIKE to play along or just watch The people who pretend not to see because they dont care or so as not to be targeted From elementary school to Big Business & the Oval office. Human Nature
Exactly they were all vetted by the Dems to ensure their criminal ways, given a fake ID and signed a promise to create mayhem and vote Dem before allowed entry
I don’t understand it either. I know people up here in 🇨🇦 who have fallen for the dangerous nonsense online and it scares me for all the generations who will be stuck with this long after I am gone. So many brainwashed people who used to be friends. I stay away from most.
The main problem the last four years was that the president is normally the chief communicator and, as much as I like JB, he was shut away so people couldn't see how he had aged in office. He will be well-regarded by history, but those who hid him away and tried to run him anyway? Not so much.
Ohhh I’ve been trying to educate my friends for yrs! As long as they listen to Feaux Fox there is no getting thru to them. They make up their own narrative and we are too polite.. I’m starting to agree what Canada is spalling back that they should take the blue states! lol
They believe trump saved us from the Great Recession of 2008. When it was Obama admin did the hard work. I mean they believe Hilary had a child sex ring in a pizzeria basement ffs. A dude showed up with a rifle. How do you get their mindset cleared of all the fallacies & work in reality?
They like the lie more than the truth I've had 2 friends post Anti-Muslim propaganda I responded with proof that their posts were wrong. With a jokey comment that it's one less thing to worry about One unfriended me Other ignored me, and just dug his heels in to the anti-Muslim propaganda
Democrats lack leadership. They put an old man in charge of the Oversight Committee when they had a perfectly good candidate in AOC. Democrats lack leadership, and the leadership they do have, lacks Will.
The GOP sends messages of distrust, lies, and hate. This gives them air-time and the media repeating it.
The Dems must deny, explain, and beg for media time. Bad news is what the media wants. Steve Bannon instructs on strong messages/lies.
Dems need a strong type of message.
You may want to rethink TikTok. Elon Musk and other right-wingers are looking into buying it. You must know what they will turn it into - their very own platform to spread lies, propaganda to elevate trump and suppress any dissent.
I understand. There are people who had been in my life for decades that I can’t be around anymore because of who and what they support and their nutty beliefs. These past few years gave them “permission” I guess, to be open about it and I just can’t abide it.
I feel you. I've lost too many. Even if we don't talk about it..I know how giddy they are right now about "winning" and it's gross. They're about to find out though
Same type of people that think DJT is innocent even tho he is a convicted felon and Diddler is guilty even tho he hasn’t seen the inside of a courtroom yet.
I think both of them are pieces of 💩 and guilty AF!
Tik Tok is clearly a threat because China can use its secret back doors to identify my location and hit me with a missile, launched from their secret high altitude balloons.
I have the Colonel’s Secret recipe and they are try to steal it.
My favorite is that Tik Tok has all of my information and of all the things they could do with it - they chose to fill my algorithm with people doing push ups and helping me find more smutty books lmao 😅 I feel like I should thank them!
You forgot to mention he's an "Apartheid loving" South African technofeudal oligarch actively interfering in our elections and sabotaging our national interests here and abroad?
Because it is “owned by the Chinese” and somehow the citizenship of the owner determines the security of the app. I know a lot about computers, but I never heard that one.
Someone on tiktok made the same point but her video was hilarious. She invited “China” into her home while she was in her bathrobe with a shower bonnet on. They already know everything. Muskrat is just trying to buy it so it can be controlled and it would, inevitably, die just like the other place.
Facebook ads routinely starts showing me things I just googled. Often, I get shown things I talked about, not typed, and occasionally will start showing me ads for a business I just physically went to that I have never before had an ad for.
I believe that with the location data continuously collected from you, and those people you associate with, it become rather easy to make assumptions about the things you like and are likely to buy. They don’t need to listen to you.
An example that happened to me (I have more). My company suddenly offered Japanese lessons (I have absolutely no interest in Japanese, I am sure Japan is great but it's just not much on my radar). I never talked about Japanese ever, that I can remember, because, again, it's just not something (1/2)
And, Tik Tok is the worrying source of our highest level of intel while we are supposed to all rally around the very guy who ran off w/ huge boxes of our top level security docs from the WH itself & still has them to circulate among his top buddies in Russia, China & N. Korea!? Yeah, OK...
short and narrow attention span: they can't be looking into two things at once (no brain capacity). So, the first one that caught their attention will be chewed on for a while (slow brains, too)
The out of touch "DEMS" backing these unpopular and unnecessary agendas only push more people to the right and make 🍊 seem to be "the hero" when he does a turnaround and suddenly comes to "save the day" (with many strings attached of course..) Again how does this lower eggs and gas?
As long as you can explain when I was finally able to download my Tiktok file, everything was dated 11/30/79 directly from Tiktok. Tiktok completely blamed my device. The Genius Bar technician thoroughly tested my phone and told me it was fine. Technician direct quote, “Tiktok is scamming you.”
The whole purpose of all of this BS is to make it so truth doesn’t matter. The right has fought logic and truth for 50 years. Ever since they started running on trickle down economics.
There’s Many Threats To Decent People Worldwide— Tech.Companies/AI Used To Harm Us, Disrupt/Control Our Logical Reasoning With Lies/Spying-On Us To Control, Threaten And Suppress Our Freedom, Human Rights! Oligarchs/Dictators With Great Power/Wealth-While People Worldwide Suffer/Starve To Survive !
I’d suggest that Trump’s ‘picks’ for any government post are as much of a concern, as Musk. Also, America doesn’t have free elections. They are bought. Until America abolishes the electoral college, and gets rid of corporate funding, they’ll be on this hamster wheel of shit forever.
I’d be more worried about the inauguration of a criminal and insurrectionist who Russia has clear and obvious control over, proven from the last time he sat in the oval. But yeah… Musk is another issue now. Also, Musk wants to buy TikTok in America.
That offer right there is a seriously major issue. America isn't getting near enough information & accurate reporting on what's going on here.
Can you conceive muskrat controlling both 'X' & TikTok.
I can't conceive of all the 'fuck I have to kneel & kiss' folks revolving in&out at Mar a Fraudo
Of course it’s a major issue. Money, influence and a control of the narrative are very dangerous. Especially when coupled with an unhinged narcissist. America gets enough information; there’s simply a huge portion that don’t seem to be able to accept facts.
Exactly, look over there at TikTok, pay no attention to the felon who stole, hid and shared top secret classified information with random people. Had the translator destroy notes of conversations with his master Putin, ad nauseam.
Was wondering the same thing...🤔 If you figure it out let me know but I must float the idea that perhaps it because those that own TikTok aren't white would be my expert investigative take...
I wonder that myself with all the misinformation "X" and Truth Social spread. Both a absolute shit spreaders of misinformation and lies and Truth Social is owned by the orange turd that told a whooping 50,000 lies over the past 8 years. That's not a problem though? Go figure!!!!!
Silly, he's white, not Chinese. Anyone with coloured skin is a threat. Read the MAGA play book under racism. If a white guy runs it, it's good, if a coloured person runs it, bad.
Damn straight, exactly what I was thinking today it’s election interference and we need to see it that way, however, this one the Supreme Court brought on us when they trashed campaign finance regulation in 2010
First we need someone to explain why a former prez unfortunately soon to be again, because of the morally and mentally bankrupt voters, got away with stealing classified docs playing keepaway with them and leaving them unsecured in a gawdy bathroom and ballroom
They are mentally bankrupt. They voted for a hateful, criminal, neppo baby, and shitty business man because they think he'll bring change. Republicans never bring good change, they only make things worse, then blame everyone else, and their voters fall for it every time because they're uneducated.
Because Tick-Tock would not sell to Zuckerberg, so then he could have a monopoly.
You watch -- it's only about owning -- not security...
Remember, Zuckerberg sold all out Data in the Cambridge Analytica deal.
Because one hoovers up your data for use by a foreign government that is the adversary of the US and the other just gives it to a billionaire nut who is going to try to monetize it and make you stupid as a by product.
I have never big big on TikTok and I’ve never regretted not using it, for those reasons. Don’t order on line much, and have never done the whole Temu and SHEIN crap, OR Amazon and the rest. Walmart sucks, too. I’m poor, but I try to spend my $ in a socially conscious way. Wish more would.
It is obviously distraction and distortion so that you'll believe The State has your best interest at heart. It's Orwellian Doublethink on steroids, WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, FORTUNE IS CHEAP EGGS, TIK TOK IS CONTROLLING, NOT LIBERATING! Pfft, not afraid of Tik Tok, but X, oh hell yeah!😳
I'm not American, it's not being banned for me.
It's being banned so that the other social media owners
(in USA) can get a HOLD on Americans.
Zuckerberg, Musk.
They want complete control of you.
Also, TIKTOK isn't American so you can openly critize the American government without issue.
Ironic that MAGA ( every accusation an admission)
used to talk about a Democratic cabal. These people all have their hands in each other’s pockets, and on the international scale.
Dark days ahead.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/clarence-thomas-took-free-yacht-154806567.html
Which are also the threat with Twitter, but there are more options dealing with foreign agents than internal ones.
isn't this what free speech is all about?
musk just had to read a few of trumps old twitter DM´s to him.
But listing his South African origins as if that's a problematic quality of his makes people on the left sound like hypocrites about immigration.
YES. Thank You!
And it's looking like "X"jerk may buy TkTk too 🤮
TikTok has always been of the US radar for long, due to Chinese influence and interest on the platform - we all know the US - China relationship, on the other hand, Elon Musk is a US citizen, only took over X about 2yrs ago, I don't think the government sees any threat from it for the now
Talk about security breaches- add tiktok to that, they have a ton of inside info on billions of people.
—snuff films? Idk what you’re talking about. Somehow some earthlings decided Palestinians aren’t people.
they’re purposely hiding horrors to continue Zionists agenda. It’s immoral-irresponsible,vile.
We can quibble all day about Vietnam or some shit from the comfort of our home.Palestinians have no luxury.
Going back to the start…Tik Tok filled the information vacuum.
I grew up Republican and the most i knew of Palestinians was they’re war-happy monsters who kill Jews. I had no tik tok. No internet. No opposing view. Real Information is gold.
How much did your morality cost?
It's not a which is worse thing
The Tik Tok ban was started sooner
CCP watches data from users and controls the narrative as well as learning how to implement its propaganda campaigns
So does X
“People are always looking for the smoking gun in these technologies,” Joyce said. “I characterize it much more as a loaded gun.”
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/24/tech/tiktok-ban-national-security-hearing/index.html
Like, they could rent a few cessnas, file flightplans, and just go from private airport to private airport with cameras out the window. That'd get zero press.
About the only thing a balloon gets you is atmospheric data like temperature, and you can follow migration a little easier.
Plus, Trump sold ALL the secrets
Everything about the panic about the balloons was BS.
There *could* be an argument made that the algorithm of Tiktok could be used for messaging. That's technically true.
Do not look behind the curtain
They're absolutely not the same, but we're getting the same thing by not calling them the fascist sympathizers that they are.
Biden is an easy target when you don't want to question your own behavior
Cat=dems
Badger=repubs
Stop saying they're the same.
His administration guided us out of a pandemic and global recession to have an economy that’s the envy of the world.
But half of our idiot nation cannot understand that, how tariffs work or that talking heads don’t tell the truth.
This is how it works:
European countries actually do have state run media and at least in Finland it operates quite neutrally.
Surely we don't always understand things in depth..
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/biden-administration-keep-tiktok-available-us-rcna187902
John Oliver did an excellent episode on this, which touches on that exact point:
We've already seen multiple countries come down on Meta & Google for data privacy. Believe it or not the US has laws protecting online privacy, too.
Still, US social media could be just as bad for us. For all we know, Elon Musk could be using X for blanket surveillance then selling that information to his buddies in the Kremlin.
My point is maintained by example. And even the US has regulatory controls...enforcement won't be happening the next four years.
But...if Elon does take it on, he'll be subject to regulatory control while China never will.
Do laws need to be tightened up in western democracies? They certainly do. However no law push by a democracy gets traction in China, who have strong privacy laws but not for the Chinese gov't.
But think it's started here in states like Texas allow people to report women for abortions.. Other states probably have similar..
Think dRump won't do re immigrants, media, in military etc... It will be baddd here
https://youtu.be/jJWKs_OyTag?si=4MEHprRE1V1RUJI-
Always nice to be recognized as having been the First.
As far as his Apartheid Boy Blunder? Yup. Owned.
This is the guy who will open a lot of really bad doors for the FFOTUS. I can't even...
Also to those passionately downloading RedNote. China thanks you a lot, lol. China Daily posted this on their TikTok account in China.
Also get a VPN!
Elon is the right kind of african for trump and his bigots
Re Mrs Obama..they've not seen a photo of her pregnant so that means it didn't happen. But if they see a photo it's definitely fake and so it didn't happen🤷♀️
How is treating each other with dignity & respect such a hateful thing?
Why are MAGAts against everything Democrats believe in?
We’ve saved SS & Medicare so many times, saved Farmers so many times, with
some ppl need it to thrive. It was studied (sadly) in high school clic’s - they get a dopamine hit by rejecting others. Being “top dog”, as it were.
See that as a habit[or addiction, your choice] and the petty, selfish soap-box adults make a lot more sense.
I’ve heard so many farmers say it’s the Republicans who saved them & helped them, but you can look it up & it’s Not!
We need to start tooting our accomplishments! These MAGAts have no idea who actually saves them!
The Dems must deny, explain, and beg for media time. Bad news is what the media wants. Steve Bannon instructs on strong messages/lies.
Dems need a strong type of message.
One side are decent firemen, and the other are arsonists, and your energy is directed at the people putting out fires?
You have it backwards
Then they’ll say it’s a good project that will MAGA us all.
They don’t hear them selfs speak, ever.
I think both of them are pieces of 💩 and guilty AF!
I have the Colonel’s Secret recipe and they are try to steal it.
ALL OF THEM.
Yes, even this one.
Yes, even the one you think doesn't.
Yes, even the one that says it doesn't.
Any app YOU DO NOT PAY FOR makes all of its money by selling your data to others. That is literally the only way they can make any actual money.
Musk and Murdoch are naturalized citizens.
- author whose brand identity is mostly just embarrassing himself online.
Can you conceive muskrat controlling both 'X' & TikTok.
I can't conceive of all the 'fuck I have to kneel & kiss' folks revolving in&out at Mar a Fraudo
But sure TikTok is the threat, sure. 🙄
Good Job ameriKKKa
It's not TikTok.
“There are no bigger adversaries to US interests on the planet than Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg, you stupid fuck.”
Plain and simple
You watch -- it's only about owning -- not security...
Remember, Zuckerberg sold all out Data in the Cambridge Analytica deal.
See my earlier posts about our social media companies
And that doesn't mean Muskrat is ok.
It's being banned so that the other social media owners
(in USA) can get a HOLD on Americans.
Zuckerberg, Musk.
They want complete control of you.
Also, TIKTOK isn't American so you can openly critize the American government without issue.
used to talk about a Democratic cabal. These people all have their hands in each other’s pockets, and on the international scale.
Dark days ahead.