With the current recalls of cybertrucks (because they didn’t use strong enough glue) , those side panels wouldn’t be on , so anyone inside going to get scratched to death by hawthorn.
i knew i had watched some videos on panel bond before. found one in my YT history. it can be stronger than welds if done right. but guessing they cheaped on the adhesive or cheaped on the prep or just way too big panels. or having the glue exposed. or something. it is definitely pretty widely used.
that's the thing. there were test mules floating around for YEARS and some problems were noticed on them that people assumed would be fixed for production (very sloppy panel gaps / rust spots / sharp edges) that just weren't. so i can definitely imagine them knowing this and just not caring.
you gotta figure they know they're selling to rubes, there's no way they honestly think this is some doomsday prepper's dream and also whoops wrong glue and it can't go in the car wash
Still not a “grade”. There are probably thousands or millions of specifications for equipment and comments, saying “we need it to function in…” pretty much for everything.
The military specifies what they need, companies bid on it, and the military goes with which ever is the cheapest.
Same with “Space Grade”. For example? The ISS crew mostly use hp zen books and Lenovo thinkpads.
The only things really special about them is they were converted to work on the 28vdc power supply the station has, improved forced-air cooling, and a tether.
Anyone building something for the military, or for space, or whatever else is going to be building to specific specifications.
My tactikool pants I wear for work aren’t military grade even though they meet some of those specifications. They’re just black pants with big pockets.
While the military does specify standards for a lot of things, there is no single standard for equipment.
They order specific equipment to meet specific needs and roles. A f150 isn’t “military grade” even if they use 4943 aluminum in the cab (which was used in a lot of military trucks)
Huh, never had “environmental embrittlement” occur on any of my past 8 new or used cars (even the 1st one that was 18 years old when my Dad handed it down).
Gotta give the builder of that parody Deplorean some credit for showing attention to design details, eg installing the corrugated sheet metal in the proper orientation so the car’s body has less aerodynamic drag… 😜
For MAGA, complaining Europe doesn't take many US-made cars apart from most US cars being too big, quality is also an issue that puts buyers off. See the beginning of this for a comparison of US and Chinese quality. https://youtu.be/YQHoV73EyDk?si=apTyjFP08kAxAPKf
I had to look up what PPAP in this context meant because there was also an eccentric music video from Japan about 10 or so years ago titled PPAP (Pen Pineapple Apple Pen), which... if you watch how he puts them together, is also somehow strangely apt for this headline.
Yup, it was the result I got in the search engine, so thanks for confirming!
Anywho, maybe upstanding civilians should help inspect the trucks to see if the recall applies to them, like... tugging on the part in question to see if it is loose...
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What in the TEMU name of car manufacture is using just glue to put a car together? Are additional mechanical fasteners like screws, rivets, and clips too old school for Tesla?
A formula one driver. The cars are glued together. In world war two the British fielded a plane (the mosquito) that was glued together. It's not rocket science.
The Focker F-10 had wooden wings with glue failure. Hence the reason it fell out of the sky. Not always a great idea just because you can do something...
It’s very common to use glue yes. IT IS ALSO COMMON TO USE BOLTS AND RELATED HARDWARE ALONG WITH IT. It’s even more common to hire competent chemists who not only choose but more often create things like glue that they are 100% certain is appropriate for the environmental exposure a car gets.
Those cars are only for use in heavily controlled environments (i.e. highly maintained paved road), so it would make sense that they don't need to be as well put together. This is supposed to be a truck, which ya know, is meant for rough use and is exposed to the elements 24/7. Also, a single plane?
Single model of plane: the De Havilland Mosquito. It was made of wood, though, which is probably a better material for glued construction than the stainless steel of a Wankpanzer.
"Litterally glued together"? No. Fiber layup actually creates a stronger structure, unlike the double-sided tape used in Tesla trucks. You can't pop off a piece of fuselage with a metal ruler.
Cybertrucks are glued together.
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Sometimes he tells the actual engineers to do something differently because random synapses in his ketamine brain or he liked the sound of something he read on reddit. For example getting rid of lidar because "human eyes use visible light".
To be fair, most windshields and rear windows are fully glued. In fact, glue is used in all modern cars for many applications. But it helps if you think first and use the right glue. 🤓
I am a composite engineer, worked for F1 companies, supercar companies and aircraft companies for decades. Glue is standard to bond panels, Tesla have failed basic used worldwide.
true, the material being glued matters as well. It is all about getting the surface energy of the different materials matched and then doing harsh environment testing very early in the design cycle. Elon was fixed on the design so testing probably would have been an affront to Elon's ego.
The cybertruck didn't need to use work hardened SS panels. They could have welded studs or clips but it would have required subsequent surface finishing after welding.
I’m not saying it is a good idea, or logical or will make the truck less ugly just that there are glues that can outperform mechanical fasteners. I’m not defending the decision because I don’t know anything about car design. Simply stating the fact that the right glue can work.
they should reasonably add in welded bends on the inside that screw in on places, like, i dunno, every single other car manufacturer known to man instead of relying on what's probably the automotive equivalent of paper mâché
What? All the retired snowbirds ya mean? LOL My gawd,m there's so much WHITE skin on the beach from them, that you have to have welding goggles to cut the glare! LOL
Remember the Aluminum cast A Arm steering controls front and back kept falling off!
The Aluminum to Steel needs a 2 part Lock Tite! The guy was only using part B
Same thing!
They hate where they work so it is easy to F up all cars!
He has 75% of all NLRB cases! 4% of USA car maker.
#EvilAF
Or tap weld some threaded rods to the inside of the panels and then use nuts to secure them to the frame. As much as the aesthetics of the thing look like ass, riveting it would arguably look worse.
Holy shit... I just pictured a cybertruck with riveted panels, and suddenly it seems far more appealing to me as some sort of apocalyptic, tank lookin' dumpster truck now.
Mhm Audi A2, A8 and BMW i3 aren't taped, the glue is robot applied and then autoclaved. I think Model S was similar but i'm not sure. I guess whatever they borrowed from industry at large at the time just worked.
Elon’s gaslighting euphemisms to bend reality have nothing on Orwell’s 1984 (“Newspeak” is “propaganda”, “joy camps” are “forced labor camps”, “bellyfeel” for blind faithful acceptance of doctrinal Party beliefs).
Holy crap. I thought the one video of a loose panel was an outlier. Hey kids, have you heard about this new thing called "Quality Control"? It's all the rage.
Maybe many of the politicians it has bought off or intimidated can ride along each one to hold it together. God knows they are willing to do much of everything else for him. GOP Glue!
Not the glue. Glue is used by most auto manufacturers for many externally fixed panels. It is a design fault. Stainless steel is notoriously difficult to glue, and needs special pretreatment and primer. They went cheap and lost!
This much is true. Glue is used for many externally fixed panels, but Tesla used old flannels. It's a design fault (same as dogs that do moult). Elon Musk is notoriously difficult to be true. He needs hair treatment, and his rockets an egg timer. They went "cheep cheep" after blast off.
You’ll appreciate this:
I retired from the company that makes the composite SpaceX rocket legs. SpaceX engineers slaved to find the proper glue to use, that could withstand the cold of space, and heat from landing engines.
Elon Musk forced them to change the glue BECAUSE IT WAS GREEN.
He is psycho.
I work in automotive - this isn't really the case anymore. Methylmethacrylate adhesives will bond to any stainless that's reasonably clean and decreased.
This is 100% a case of Tesla failing to do something that's by now a basic competency in automotive manufacturing.
It seems like this is a pattern because spacex also seems to have some fundamentals missing and X has some security flaws and DOGE has no idea how governments work… etc etc
The problem is real,
But he feels its the steel.
It's a car that won't get far.
An auto you wish you hadn't bought-o.
But the guy at tesla was a bit of a thicky,
He didn't use glue that was sufficiently sticky.
GLUE?? To hold shit together on that ugly truck? WTF? Elon is a genius. You all must be glad he’s in charge of your money and info. FUCKING GLUE to keep a truck together.
The only reason I think that incompetent idiot Musk actually "designed" the truck is because it looks like he copies the design from mediocre video game art directed at people who don't go to museums.
None that I am aware but as an arbiter of truth and light, I’m willing to listen for any I overlooked. Might be a couple left in the abandoned Hyperloop.
Honestly, now I wish I had bought one cause I would sue the shit out of him over it. I would take his ass to town for false advertisement and everything this side of the Earth that I could.
Isn’t it just fun how in ElmoWorld we the people keep needing to learn New and Exciting phrases like “ environmental embrittlement “
Or “ Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly “
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Never have I been so pleased about road safety standards
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Your vehicles suck
I now say f*** you!
Same stuff they use on rockets?
BUY A TESLA! THEYRE GREAT! TRUST ME!
all these bad stories about teslas are FAKE NEWS!
TESLA:
please return all teslas, theyre about to fall apart...
ITS BULLET PROOF!
ITS MADE WITH THE WORLDS LARGEST EXTRUSION PRESS!
ONE GIANT CHUNK OF SOLID METAL FORMS THE BASE!
...but we used cheap glue and it falls apart after a while...
(also, "military grade" isn't actually a thing. anytime you see it, it's a pure sales pitch.)
Operational and storage temperature range for example is different between commercial, industrial and military spec.
No military with any sanity would touch the giant metal dumpster.
The military specifies what they need, companies bid on it, and the military goes with which ever is the cheapest.
The only things really special about them is they were converted to work on the 28vdc power supply the station has, improved forced-air cooling, and a tether.
My tactikool pants I wear for work aren’t military grade even though they meet some of those specifications. They’re just black pants with big pockets.
if they can survive that with all their limbs attached... then they become "military" grade in the sixth grade.
While the military does specify standards for a lot of things, there is no single standard for equipment.
They order specific equipment to meet specific needs and roles. A f150 isn’t “military grade” even if they use 4943 aluminum in the cab (which was used in a lot of military trucks)
Both foreign and domestic.
But no. Temu superglue...
Violets are blue
Omg
We used the wrong glue
https://youtu.be/YQHoV73EyDk?si=apTyjFP08kAxAPKf
Anywho, maybe upstanding civilians should help inspect the trucks to see if the recall applies to them, like... tugging on the part in question to see if it is loose...
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Amateur car "building"
Are they made of cardboard?
Has any of them ever got wet and dissolved?
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Unless you fuck it up, e.g. by using the wrong bonding adhesive due to the penchant of TeSSlers CEO for cutting costs regardless of the outcome...
No way a glue will hold indefinitely 🤔
Spot welding, clips, screws, rivets, anything but friggin glue...
Adhesives can be powerful enough for this application but they also have to be flexible enough and long lasting.
So, both an engineering and QA mistake were made here.
As a whole, it was slap-dashed together because Space Cowboy thought it'd be clever. Such a douchebag.
"Is there a RIGHT glue to be hold the body of your car together with?"
Nearly all cybertrucks
Have the wrong glue
The Aluminum to Steel needs a 2 part Lock Tite! The guy was only using part B
Same thing!
They hate where they work so it is easy to F up all cars!
He has 75% of all NLRB cases! 4% of USA car maker.
#EvilAF
Basically Tesla have failed a process used by aircraft and automobile engineers all over the world. They are incompetent.
Instead of applying it
Who used the wrong glue?
You mean those phuqing things are glued together?
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Violets are blue
CyberTrucks fall apart
'cause Elon sniffed the glue
Thank you!!
how do they keep using phrases that work writ large for the destruction wrought on the US?
https://youtube.com/shorts/S2Bo3...
at this point any normal company would have fired the ceo
Looking at his life, who the fuck does he think he is telling someone else what to do. Anyone who continues to listen to this fool is a total idiot.
WTF - how much did these people get taken for?
Because of sh*t glue.
This is the truck’s eighth recall!
Dump Tesla!
Is the least of what’s wrong with you
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Violets are blue
We follow the law
And so must you.... (Mr Trump/Musk)
- ldg (haha)
I retired from the company that makes the composite SpaceX rocket legs. SpaceX engineers slaved to find the proper glue to use, that could withstand the cold of space, and heat from landing engines.
Elon Musk forced them to change the glue BECAUSE IT WAS GREEN.
He is psycho.
This is 100% a case of Tesla failing to do something that's by now a basic competency in automotive manufacturing.
But the word is "shoddy"
Visual self driving system Vs lidar.
Cheap thinking to my mind...
Every damned time.
You'd think he would learn, but nope. Elon is his own biggest problem, and with any luck, will be his own undoing!
Surface finish has no bearing here - a duller finish will have the potential to bond slightly better, if anything.
This is purely bad choice of adhesives.
Elon is the epitome of penny wise and pound foolish.
Let’s take ALL of his pennies from him to stop him for harming this world any further.
But he feels its the steel.
It's a car that won't get far.
An auto you wish you hadn't bought-o.
But the guy at tesla was a bit of a thicky,
He didn't use glue that was sufficiently sticky.
*looks down at spit drink on his shirt*
considering the owner of tesla in all this.
Also, what's the story with the $1.4 Billion "missing" on Tesla's financial statements?
Just imagine the DeLorean with GLUED ON SIDE PANELS 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I mean WTF!?!?!?!?! CHEAP ASS DIDNT WANT TO HAVE MOLDED STEEL SO HE GOT PANELS AND FUCKING GLUED THEM. AND DUMB ASSES PAID $100K+
And if you voted for Trump so are you.
Btw, your joke is 🎯🤭
https://www.tesla.com/findus/list/services/United+States
Or “ Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly “