Would like to see a more fully developed story than two racists high-fiving, but this militarism in deportation would also get the public used to seeing the military mobilized against civilians in our own communities..normalizing the unthinkable.
They will be forced to resign and replaced by someone who will.
Part of military training is exactly this scenario
Might end up with half the military that is woefully inexperienced and unprepared for war when the dust settles and the cam- I mean... temporary housing is set up
Top Brass serve at the pleasure of the President (and congress approval) if they refuse order, they get fired, that follows a demotion and possible dishonorable discharge, which means a big hit to their pension. So instead they often resign.
An unemployed army worked out really well in Iraq. Sacking a massive amount of trained disgruntled soldiers probably won’t work out as well as you think it will. It’s not like they won’t be able to get arms. 😂
A bunch a really stupid people are about to learn the hard way that the foundation of the U.S. economy is built on cheap immigrant labor. Always has been.
I'm thinking now it will convert to the labor of the incarcerated, since slavery has not been abolished in those regards and they can continue to round up labor thru ongoing mass incarceration + feed the private prison complex.
I was just coming to the same conclusion last night. Replace with those who are incarcerated. Create a police state. The Supreme Court just ruled being homeless is a crime. This is where we are headed, and I feel largely black people will get targeted for this.
Reminds me of UK elections not long ago, they told them what they were going to do, many said he was 'keeping his tinder dry' 'will turn left when elected' 😂 Seems I heard Trump say 'don't worry you won't have to go through elections again' A lot common the 2 electorates. I did try to tell them
It's a shame, republicans used people as political props. Rejected a border bill. Sent migrants around the country to make political points and stoke fear, now will make a show out of removing them. These are people's lives and they used them as props.
We can given go as far back as WWII. I saw @georgetakei.bsky.social make a post about the japanese internment camps and how some of detainees were American citizens
Who will roof our buildings & homes, who will harvest our crops, who will construct our roads & buildings, who will mow our lawns or install our water lines? Things are gonna go to hell in more ways than one. 🔥
Our military will try not to hurt anyone, but this admin will make it deadly via policy.
"Five illegal immigrants died during the raid"
"Authorities have not revealed this month's death toll at the El Paso camp"
"The Trump administration has not kept a tally of in-custody mortalities"
How are they going to pull this off? That's what I continue to keep searching for and continue to not find. What level of profiling is required to do this effectively?
Saw an article that said it takes appx 6 officers to arrest/detain one suspect. The only way they could do it is by bringing in the national guard/military & simply do dragnets. This is going to be awful.
He’s figured out how to use the military against us. Will he figure out that it’s easier and cheaper to just use cops? Because that’s my biggest concern.
It must have. Right? Because it’s not like when WWII ended, we gave the Holocaust survivors Germany. Ever wonder why? If Hitler was the problem, why wasn’t Israel founded on German territory?
We say one thing and do another and fucken nobody seems to question it.
So what, they gonna deport white people back to Europe?
You are aware that many peoples are Americans
The government isn't the only ones with weapons, and I'm not trying to be the new Anne Frank as someone born in America just like the rest of my family. I'm a veteran.
That’s awesome news, that many people leaving the workforce will undoubtedly drive up wages, while the mass exodus from inner city housing should bring back some affordability for families of our country
He has a huge fan in Texas Gov Abbott who has already tried to enforce immigration control on a state level. Oh and tge fed judicial district here is all in
You may have a point but the complications, the intensity of the manpower effort, the huge costs to run camps and disruption of current business operations just may be too much for those more intent on dismantling governance and agencies that shackle the very wealthy.
One real life issue is the disruption of taking a businesses' entire labor force, dragging them away, dealing with all the legal hassles that Dems and others are gearing up to throw sand in the gears etc, and shutting down operations (produce rots, housing construction at a standstill) will be huge
I imagine he will go to some place like CO. With media present, he will show agents rounding up some Venezuelan migrants. I think there will be some deportations but not as many as he claims. Just like the “wall” he built. It will all be for show …he is an insufferable showman but gets little done
Absolutely- that's just icing on the top. Fear is a big part of all of this. Will be interesting to see how those affected (affect on their businesses and the price of "eggs") will respond. Very interesting
Coming from a Coloradan, we fully anticipate being top of the list. It’s horrifying. I live in a largely immigrant populated area and the fear, dread and sadness is palpable.
Another thought abt this is Texas won't do the deporting (certainly will enable and already offered holding areas to the feds just this week) and the leg abd gov won't stand in the way either. Now big produce and big housing and commercial developers will protest but how much we won't know.
These flash point issues keep the base engaged when really the trump admin will work behind the scenes more quietly dismantling all those annoying governance stryctures so big business can operate without shackles.
Of course they depend on migrants which makes it not about that at all. I would venture California, Florida and Texas economies depend on migrants to carry whole sections of their economies (guessing big corp will not allow mass anything- they depend on almost free labor)
There is no particular reason that the actions of a ruler are predicated on what is economically wise. The Holocaust was an act of economic self-harm, but the further it went, the more damage it did, the greater the "evidence" of its necessity.
Definitely a huge aspect of continued growth for the sun belt. In Texas that's probably a bigger issue money wise than migrant farm workers. I've speculated so much in this thread - I need to look up the numbers. We already know their tax contributions add up to billions
There is no such thing as a peaceful round up of millions of people. I hope our military refuses to do this. They'd be violating all kinds of human rights laws.
How is he going to get around that whole pesky Posse Comitatus Act thing? Or are they going to hinge it on the somewhat vague language from the ~2006 change for natural disasters?
That is my fear, and they will force our military to shoot and kill people who only want the dream that America is suppose to bring. These young soldiers will suffer for a lifetime with PTSD and we will have another generation like the soldiers who made it out alive from Vietnam.
Trouble is, you might pay the soldiers wages, as well as everything else of course, the way things are set up they are 'their' soldiers, unless people start waking up this is just the beginning, same in the UK
Except that they're under orders, and it takes massive movements to create a situation where soldiers stop obeying immoral orders. And a lot of them still obey anyway.
If a military member refuses to follow orders, they can face serious consequences including a court-martial, potential imprisonment, a dishonorable discharge, reduction in rank, loss of pay, and other disciplinary actions, as disobeying orders is considered a criminal offense. They have no choice.
I 100% expect that they will do outrageous things that draw protesters. Then they will illegally hurt those protesters which will escalate things and that escalation will be the excuse for the authoritarian crack down.
This but they only got to vote for a clown because the fucking democrats didnt put him in prison for treason because he was more useful as a boogeyman fundraising tool to them
Until we place the blame on democrats and form something new we are fucked. Ofc i blame people who vote for him too.
An incredible amount of capitulation and defeatism around here because Trump trothed a single word on his half-assed social media platform. It never ceases to amaze me the number of people on the left who seem to want him to be an invincible god-king. He only gets what he wants if we give it to him!
He is following the steps of his role model, Viktor Orbán, who announced national emergency in 2015. Orbán is keeping it since then. Migration was the reason he started it.
Trump follows Orbán. If you want to understand what will happen in the next 1-2 years, check what Orbán did since 2010.
If Congress and Senate authorize the national emergency, Trump will keep it forever. He will try to use it as a special case for get another (or two) period as a President, without any election. His Russian friends may help him to organize an event to help him to keep it.
Military should be training to fight against opponents that could defeat us in trenches and using drones, instead they’re going to be knocking on doors like heavily armed police officers but with none of the training
He also wants the South African nutter camping out in Mara Lago to slash 2 trillion from the federal workforce. Set up tribunals to court marshall military leaders. There are so many conflicting agendas.
If immigrants who THEMSELVES have family members at risk voted for this what are we supposed to do? It’s almost like they stood up waved their hands and snitched on their own community… 🤷🏽♀️
This will end badly when they deport some of the wrong people and the public goes crazy after watching the military raiding buildings in their neighborhoods! The American people will eventually fight back.
We tried to fucking tell folks this shit wasn't a fucking game but nope some folks decided to sit out of this election and protest Harris rallies just wait until he starts tracking women's pregnancies trying to leave their state for health care i fucking hate it here!
Exactly. I kept telling people, you need to look at Texas. We're already there and leading the way and you're one issuing the whole state of government away
Sadly I know from mortality rate of women to what's being built there it's bad it's about get worse for all 50 states feeling safe would have been electing Harris and rejecting this nazi shit 😕
And a whole lot of Americans voted for a vile, fascist, felon because they like the bigotry and/or they think a Trump presidency will make them a bit more money.
Trump voters are in for a rude awakening in the next couple of years. They're stupid for thinking that the Orange Menace and Project 2025 will "lower prices"
Exactly this all for the price fucking eggs they choose dictator i hope they get what they voted for since they dont get touching hot stove means it just sucks we all have to suffer this shit for their stupidity this is definitely hell 😮💨
In one speech he was telling people that they won't have to worry about elections anymore. If this isn't stopped before he takes power this is going to be the reality.
We already know he is going to give himself another free term because he was "cheated" out of the last one. Even though he has his two, he will change it to be consecutive, which gives them another four to figure out how to turn the US into a parking lot.
Oh boy, I can’t wait for the videos and pictures of soldiers kicking doors down and dragging kids and families out into the street. I wonder how many people will die “accidentally”?
My question is will they go to every door? How will they identify the people? Well there you have it, they’ll snatch up anyone in sight, no questions asked. These people are unhinged and somebody needs to do something.
No one will be safe. First, will be people from south of the border. Then what? The Jewish, Chechnyans, POCs? He has already made comments about "the purity of the countries blood", taking a page from the play book of "White Supremacist" nationwide. Absolutely no one will be safe. First will be the
Deportations, then what? If he can't Deportations them he will incarcerate them. This is how every fascist regime in history has begun.
He IS GOING TO TRY A COUP D'ETAT from within. He takes the gov. and then control the media then comes "the move". He NAMES HIMSELF KING OR SUPREME LEADER! Remember
That I warned you about it ahead of time, so you aren't caught off guard. He will try to take over the country with Russian and N. Korean help. Putin wants nothing more then to destroy our country (he's a former KGB assassin) and hates us, BUT TRUMP IS TO STUPID TO SEE THE OBVIOUS! Just praise him.
This is my real and legit question to all the supposed Dem leaders still left out there who aren't packing up and taking their ball home because they are scared cowards.
We need real ideas and not just going on there corporate media sponsor to bitch and moan about it
#whosteppingup
Metro Chimp: "We have a group of documented migrants who are hard working, law abiding, pay their taxes, start businesses, are Catholics, and love America."
GOP: "America could use more people like that!"
Metro Chimp: "Did I mention they're black and speak French?"
His "plan" is to continue Obama and Bidens policies. He may send ICE out, but it wouldn't be feasible to do what he wanrs, nor does he have the resources.
I am going to say as politely as I can muster that we have no reason to think that any of those claims is correct, give our take the wiggle room he has provided himself on "what he wants"
Wiggle room? He can't pull off what he wants. R's barely lead either House or Senate, and Moderates like their jobs. I have a feeling a lot of what he's promising and planning is just bullshit for fear, clicks and ratings. We'll see if anything happens but I'm highly skeptical.
He doesn't actually need Congress to get on board with his immigration plans. He can just order the National Guard to walk into immigrant neighborhoods, load everybody who looks vageuly brown on a bus to the airport, and put them on a transport plane to the Atacama Desert. It isn't complicated.
In 30 years if we have liberal democratic government we can a truth and reconciliation commission to apology and pay token reparations. If we don't have it ...it will be celebrated as turning the tide on an invasion.
The states must allow him to use them. And they're still bound by the UCMJ. He only used the DC NG by finding a loophole. He won't be able to do that in Blue states.
It’s so rare for a politician to follow through on their campaign promises. How refreshing / and terrifying for those who warned he would follow through on his campaign promises
All soldiers have the RESPONSIBILITY and OBLIGATION to refuse to obey illegal and immoral orders. ANY service person obeying an order to harm unarmed civilians in contravention to the Constitution deserves prison. Military swear an oath to UPHOLD the constitution. Not to serve a maniac.
There’s no emergency.
You know what will happen?
New construction will stop.
New construction will increase in cost by a high percentage.
Fresh produce grown in America will rot in the fields.
Farmers will be forced to automate with expensive equipment. Food prices will soar.
He’s a moron.
This is insanely dangerous. Think about it - it's not even close to being an emergency no matter how you feel about illegal immigration. If he uses the military on American soil for this, what else will be an "emergency" in the future? Answer: anything he wants.
Cool, I have a List for Him!
Nancy Pelosi
Chuck Schumer
Joe Biden you could just put in a Nursing Home
Mika and Joe
Rachel Madcow
Stephanie Ruhle
Adam Shifty Schiff
Molly Jong Fast
Tony "The Gabagoo" Blinken
Janet Yellen
David Pakman
Jim Clyburn
AOC since she is just Pelosi's Puerto Rican Lapdog.
Additionally, many work in cleaning and janitorial services, also in nursing homes doing non medical tasks.
How many would be willing to clean their own office areas or stay in a hotel with dirty sheets and bathrooms.
A spouse may have to quit working to care for grandma at home.
They are vital.
Not intending to spam just adding Project 2025 context - this plan is outlined all through P25. Trump will declare a national health (and security) emergency that will activate FEMA and will allow the US Military & local and state police to assist in “border operations”
Highly recommend people, including natural born US citizens, getting their papers in order because how can you prove in a random traffic stop that you’re an American? I did onboarding years ago and seeing white people upset that they had to prove their citizenship was a thing…just sayin
So will Trump deport veterans? More than 40,000 foreign nationals were serving in active and reserve components of the Armed Forces. An estimated additional 115,000 foreign nationals residing in the United States are veterans who have previously served.
Perhaps President Biden should identify the Trump - Musk alliance as an obvious threat to national security, declare a national emergency then since Musk is an immigrant who worked in the US illegaly, he could justifiably be deported back to his homeland.
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Part of military training is exactly this scenario
Might end up with half the military that is woefully inexperienced and unprepared for war when the dust settles and the cam- I mean... temporary housing is set up
Top Brass serve at the pleasure of the President (and congress approval) if they refuse order, they get fired, that follows a demotion and possible dishonorable discharge, which means a big hit to their pension. So instead they often resign.
It will be a purge
Where is been pointed out that "unfit for leadership" probably means "won't do what Trump wants"...
Sorta like all of 8 years ago.
Funny how that works.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act
"Five illegal immigrants died during the raid"
"Authorities have not revealed this month's death toll at the El Paso camp"
"The Trump administration has not kept a tally of in-custody mortalities"
on the backs of immigrants legal
& otherwise. this is a disgrace.
Well, one of them. I have so many these days.
We say one thing and do another and fucken nobody seems to question it.
Him. #Resist
#Disrupt
You are aware that many peoples are Americans
The government isn't the only ones with weapons, and I'm not trying to be the new Anne Frank as someone born in America just like the rest of my family. I'm a veteran.
This is about skin color.
Makes me sick
It may not matter if you have your papers.
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I 100% expect that they will do outrageous things that draw protesters. Then they will illegally hurt those protesters which will escalate things and that escalation will be the excuse for the authoritarian crack down.
The Far right refuses to learn from the pain that was inflicted when the federal government forced Japanese Americans into internment camps.
I had thought most Americans had learned from that blight on our history.
The Far Right just doesn't care about such cruelty.
Until we place the blame on democrats and form something new we are fucked. Ofc i blame people who vote for him too.
I don't see an "Emergency" there, do you?
https://www.eaglepasstx.gov/310/International-Bridge-I-Cameras
Trump follows Orbán. If you want to understand what will happen in the next 1-2 years, check what Orbán did since 2010.
Colorado will RESIST.
This MF is really trying to say a hold my beer 🍺🤬🤬🤬🤬
It's damn ugly and deep
And yea the Michigan swing - the Palestinian issue or more than that?
Now he knows how to move there and he's got all the power he needs to do what he wants
MF BROKE checks and balances
He's going to be significantly more dangerous this time
...oh but the price of eggs 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
He has full control over the senate and house of representatives.
What's to stop him, say, changing the POTUS term rules. You know, the ones that stop someone running more than two terms.
Is the new
“But her emails!”
not comply with an illegal order.
All is good.
And that's why you have years of Donald using the military as his personal police force.
He IS GOING TO TRY A COUP D'ETAT from within. He takes the gov. and then control the media then comes "the move". He NAMES HIMSELF KING OR SUPREME LEADER! Remember
We need real ideas and not just going on there corporate media sponsor to bitch and moan about it
#whosteppingup
god i wish anybody knew how anything actually fucking works
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act
GOP: "America could use more people like that!"
Metro Chimp: "Did I mention they're black and speak French?"
GOP: "Deport them!"
Trump has 4 years of bigots signing up to imprison migrants & their children
They've had 4-8 years to get promoted
They will follow his orders after he gets rid of the leaders that will oppose him
This is his design
Different country, different Constitutional system.
You know what will happen?
New construction will stop.
New construction will increase in cost by a high percentage.
Fresh produce grown in America will rot in the fields.
Farmers will be forced to automate with expensive equipment. Food prices will soar.
He’s a moron.
Good luck.
Nancy Pelosi
Chuck Schumer
Joe Biden you could just put in a Nursing Home
Mika and Joe
Rachel Madcow
Stephanie Ruhle
Adam Shifty Schiff
Molly Jong Fast
Tony "The Gabagoo" Blinken
Janet Yellen
David Pakman
Jim Clyburn
AOC since she is just Pelosi's Puerto Rican Lapdog.
How many would be willing to clean their own office areas or stay in a hotel with dirty sheets and bathrooms.
A spouse may have to quit working to care for grandma at home.
They are vital.
Mai avrei creduto di poterlo vedere
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He's constitutionally disqualified from office, and nothing he attempts will be legal.
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R48163#:~:text=Topics%20covered%20include%20U.S.%20citizenship,served%20in%20the%20Armed%20Forces.&text=According%20to%20DOD%20data%2C%20as,components%20of%20the%20Armed%20Forces.