All I keep thinking about is that if/when Dems regain power, every action to restore normality or basic functioning of governmental institutions will be covered by the national press like it’s a controversial, partisan power play on par with a coup.
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Even the most feeble attempts to make once-thriving federal institutions operational again will be greeted with NYT headlines like “Democratic majority seeks ouster of officials in what critics call a shrewd power play”
The usual "tax and spend" barbs will be augmented by the new "trans peen" mantra. People are so stupid. Now that news is sought on social apps they just might win
Look up Midas Touch Network they have been pretty good on their reporting of the going ons. They can be click baity but still seems to be a good source of news they try to keep opinions out of it. Or say when it is an opinion.
I was just telling someone that the other day. If there comes a chance months or years from now to rebuild the departments that are currently being trashed, it’s going to look like a bunch of partisan meanies firing “innocent” workers or “sinking our tax dollars into unnecessary bureaucracy”.
I know there's going to be a whole lot of bullshit like "oh, so firing the entire federal government and hiring new workers was bad when THEY did it, huh? Hypocrites!"
Just gonna have to roll our eyes and fight through it.
Except for appointed positions and DOGE, sure. There are a lot of calls for them to stack the federal agencies with lackeys, but that's a much harder and longer process than gutting them (illegally).
If that’s what the NYT is saying, what is Newsmax saying - and Tucker and the other fascists? Whose offices are being attacked, what officials are being assassinated because good people are trying to right the ship? This is gonna get worse before it gets better.
I’ve been thinking about this too. At this point it’d be a great problem to have, but it’s galling that MSM will just keep following right wing framing of every issue. We need to start the proper narrative now. We are restoring and renewing the mission statement of government in the public interest
also, since dems will have to spend so many resources fixing all the shit the GOP broke -- for the umpteenth fucking time, sigh -- think of all the progress we could have made instead
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We're headed towards a black hole of fucked and all we do is pull more people into further fucked'ness with every attempt to escape. The event horizon is approaching and Republicans are just sailing us all right at it with shit eating grins on their faces.
nope the then president enacts one EO that dissolves every EO the orange toiletbrush ever wrote period hands down then we the people have to help rebuild all the lives he's destroyed and we can grab congress to help us do it.
No more free elections. The Orange Vomit has promised the Repugnicans: they will never be voted out bc he will invoke wartime powers and suspend the Constitution! The Supreme Court just signaled to the Orange Fuhrer that he can use any kind of concept of war to send people to concentration camps!
They will try but will not be able to do so. Example: China may see an advantage in retaliating against the USA. So Dems will be stuck because China will say you started it. Not the Felon POTUS but the USA. I hope African countries seize this opportunity to level the field.
People just sound delusional when they think Democrats will roll back anything Republicans did and betray their ratchet role. Joe Biden didn't even replace the postmaster general and the entire Democrat Congress is powerless against a parliamentarian. Lmao
History shows us that the center-right, moderate conservative Democrats aren't going to try to fix anything. Whatever they do end up doing won't be covered by the mega-conglomerate media.
Dem candidates (and the party) should be working on plans to restore our essential government services when they retake the majority.This is something that can’t wait until they’re back in the majority. Do it now, while Trump’s illegal power grabs are being challenged in the courts.
Ready Day One!
If the Democrats ever regain power, they need to round up and deport every single Republican who held office over the past decade inclusive of SCOTUS, House, Senate, President, and as far down as every state position.
And they can go fuck themselves. The media in its current form will have to be weeded out and reinstate the goddamn FAIRNESS DOCTRINE that dementia ridden reagan thought was a good idea to cancel. Why haven’t Dems when they controlled both sides of the aisle brought this back? Party of weak.
Authoritarians never think countering their gaslighting is fair. Put it back, this time with teeth in it; run all media like courtroom testimony under oath where telling outright lies comes with penalties. Opinions of events are still fine, but crosses the line when you add falsehoods as evidence.
What if they don't.. and instead start to reverse all the neolibs policies they help cater in. And start working for the people, not their corporate donors.
It's every citizen's job to make sure that anyone towing that line pays a huge societal price. They shouldn't be able to live in polite society if they make those arguments afterwards; If you cover a coup like a policy and policy like a coup, live in the hell that you helped create.
By the time Dems regain power, hopefully the MSM will be completely irrelevant. The generation of people who watch and/or listen to the MSM are dying out. Younger people, by and large, get their info from podcasts and social media. That is where the Dems need to build up their voice.
Thankfully, we're making progress on that front. Meidas Touch, BTC, and others are building progressive media organizations that have enormous popularity
Because Corporate news controls the narrative in this country and all corporate news, even the seemingly left-leaning ones, wants Trump's brand of corporate fascism. They barely covered any of the protests. Ask yourself why that is.
Good point! Sadly true. Any person who affiliates as Republican when they run for office should be highly vetted so as not to get magas in office. Only reasonable people, please.
You’re right, it’s a worry. Trump’s worst long-term effect could be perverting what remains of our memory of institutional norms of democratic governance. We still have to try and stop it
If we keep pendulum swinging back and forth every 4 years, nothing can be done. We will just have 4 years of the GOP taking a shit on the floor and 4 years of Dems cleaning it up. Rinse, repeat. We need two terms an a majority legislative and then make big, bold FDR-like moves.
And then an ignorant public will be convinced that they have somehow been horribly wronged, despite all evidence to the contrary, and the GOP will be reelected - the cycle repeats.
and this time the Left had better just ignore the right bitching about tan suits and spicy mustard. the children have lost their right to make decisions
This is why we are cutting the national press and the traditional media out of our conversation. We are having these conversations within independent media now because we can't trust the traditional media to Tell an honest story.
Dems need to plan now. Come up with their own rebuilding plan. Get everything ready for rebuilding, so it looks likes it’s happening overnight. Use their methods against them.
That’s why we shouldn’t restore anything. We should set up a new framework of institutions and laws that overwhelmingly benefit blue states and counties.
Rebuilding the system they already broke is a massive mistake
If “expand the supreme court“ is going to get you the exact same press coverage as “all power to the soviets” would, why aim for half measures in the first place?
Hopefully they will have enough seats, and enough weak willed democrats will be primaried, that they can start smashing apart media monopolies. That would help.
It is time for a major overhaul. No Citizens United; no Lobbyists in DC - let them go work state to state; no pensions; League of Women Voters to hold four debates; no ads; no insider trading, etc., etc., no impunity for lying with malicious intent
I'm an Independent,if the Dems run on a platform of returning to previous levels of spending, I'm afraid they will have a hard time getting back my vote. I don't believe we can fix everything by taxing our way out of this ridiculous spending by both parties.
That's right. The only proper recipients of government handouts should be businesses and billionaires with nice big fat tax breaks. After all, trickle down, job creators, etc. (even though we've been hoarding all the money and laying people off hand over fist)
Don't be silly. Democrats haven't even tried to reverse one single horror perpetrated by Republicans in over 50 years.
They inflict horrors of their own now.
THAT is who you're holding up as an example of a radical we should stick with? Him? Have you seen Hamilton too many times or something? Jefferson? The first prez to campaign on one platform just to throw it away and do the opposite after elected? Definitely not normal, at least. I'll give you that.
And we ignore those fuckers and push through our humanity driven agenda, everyone deserves to live and love who they love, we take care of the sick, elderly and disabled
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A lot of it ties in with that daddy party/mommy party crap. Daddy gets to smash all the appliances but Mommy has to smile and somehow get dinner ready on time without one word of reproach.
The dems are going to be like "listen, we all agree that people should be sent to gulags in El Salvador, we just think it should be done a little more humanely" and the media will call them extreme left
Yep & the most lazy & fucking stupid population aka Americans will be bitching & moaning about how Dems ain’t moving faster to restore everything back to the Biden years. Thus setting the stage for MAGA/Republicans to gain power again because Americans are to easily to fool.
That's bc Ds are horrible at messaging. They got guys like Chuck Schumer putting people to sleep & Bernie Sanders out here still yelling at people about billionaires. Both of them are older than the pyramids.
And the young members are too worried about offending people to say anything useful.
It’s not going to happen that fast. There will not be a 2020 again because now they know how to cheat and win (see popular vote). We need a #ThirdParty and begin to rebuild and set the stage for kids grandchildren.
That's really why we should push for controversial, partisan power plays, so that when we back off what is actually very extreme, they'll feel like we didn't win.
I can't stop thinking about exactly this point. Restoring sanity and logic will require strong moves that this press will cover like it's as much or more authoritarian than what's happening now.
Who's going to want to go back to work for an institution whose contracts mean nothing. The toothpaste can't be put back in the tube which is as intended. Those jobs will have to be privatized.
Let’em. We’ll be busy doing what we do best - cleaning up the repugs mess, Nazi-proofing the constitution, putting people on trial, having every oligarch audited by the IRS, and rehiring our experts that were fired. And, more.
I’m still worrying about getting the super majority in both houses of Congress. Without that, we’ll never get off the see saw. The FFC could require all news outlets of any kind to label opinion pieces as such- no label means verified & corroborated facts are being reported.
In that case, go big. If the opposition will cry foul over every foul, take out the players causing the disruption. People only see what's in front of them. That's what Trump is doing.
When they take the low road, we take up positions on the high road with ambushes and traps in waiting.
The Democrats are allowed to aggressively and repeatedly call this out when it happens. They could even put out "talking points" to the entire party apparatus and have everyone repeat them everywhere all the time. You know, like the bad guys do. Will they do this? Of course not.
What you will see if that comes to pass is unrivaled prosperity for all. A return to world prominence, envy and respect. The exact opposite of what the orange shithead gives us.
Looks like they will have to I think it's plausible and with citizens standing up behind to support it can happen. We can take back the WH by force regardless of what Trump thinks.
The mainstream media will have no credibility at that point. And maybe the Dems can also implement rules that news sources can't outright lie and gaslight.
I can't imagine how anything goes back to normal for the U.S. I mean, clearly, laws have been broken, treasonous activity has certainly been displayed, Supreme Court Justices compromised, etc. Forget the million pardons that will be given (or sold). What will it take to correct things?
They should just say "fuck it" and go nuts with it. If they're going to be accused of overreach they should actually overreach. As long as the results are less disastrous than a global economic recession, they'll probably get away with it.
Alternative media gave us Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Dan Bongino etc. Where is the energy to replicate that outrage machine over things we should actually be outraged about, like the class war billionaires have been playing against the public forever? We can’t. We’re too kind.
I guess you haven't found the left leaning alternative media yet. Take a look. And isn't it better to have the raw right wing telling us what they are really doing than the lies of the legacy media.
Right wing media isn’t telling anyone what they’re really doing. “We’re saving billions of dollars”. No they’re not, they’re targeting agencies which prevent them from ransacking the public. Erasing votes they don’t like is not voter integrity. Bulldozing Gaza to make a resort isn’t Pro Palestinian.
Haitian refugees aren’t eating the cats or dogs (they’re working at an Amazon fulfillment facility). Most Venezuelans being shipped to a Nicaraguan prisons aren’t hardened criminals. All migrants aren’t bringing fentanyl into the country. Right wing media stokes the lawless depths of this regime.
I think I did not explain it well. Right wing media let us know the are Nazi sympathizers, billionaire loving, women hating, diversity opponents, immigrant hating, economic idiots, isolationist, beta males...
Hmm ... given the extreme cruelty and crimes being committed the Blue Backlash should be just as extreme. Remove and prosecute all the Traitor's co-conspirators. Restore Roe and all the things they've destroyed. Rescind Citizens United. SCOTUS term limits. Maybe even multiple political parties.
Oh they will start the second and Democrats in office and they will keep on fueling the propaganda and the y so that another Republican gets in and we can go through the same back and forth pendulum that we've been doing for 80 years
Why honestly think that we're watching the death of the Republican party. It's now Democratic or maga. I think that's the end of them and even the Democratic party as well. It's going to be a pretty interesting next few years
That is why Dems need our own media infrastructure and ordinary Dems need to cultivate extreme skepticism if not cynicism to the MSM. It shouldn't be difficult, WaPo, ABC, CBS and probably others are basically paying off Trump.
Yes well here's the thing Fox news RW 📻 are the main engines for GOP/MAGA it was their path to where we are today.RW MEDIA pushed every talking pt from the tea baggers birthers for a decade which trump picked up & dialed his social media accounts to.Where are liberal billionaires creating media?
Which is why we MUST reinstate THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE! So they can’t continue to straight up lie!! It must be made applicable to streaming as well as broadcast news. Anyone that is registered as an “entertainment network” CAN NO LONGER HAVE “NEWS” as the name of their network & real consequences4lies
It's true, but media coverage still matters. The media both sidesing everything matters.
It'll have to be done anyway, but that doesn't mean it won't play into rehabilitating the GOP and bringing them back for another try.
Totally agree. All I’m trying to articulate is that I would like the ostensible opposition party to have the guts to not fold under the slightest bit of negative media coverage and instead stand up and do what is morally right and necessary without feeling obligated to take half measures.
…and the apologists who will crawl out of the woodwork and claim “trump had a great plan if we would have just given him enough time” on every talk show for “balance”. So the insanity starts to sound like a “policy option”…
That’s why it’s important to elect a crop of young leaders who will seize the reigns and bring legacy media to heel. The fact it’s possible for someone like Jeff Bezos to purchase an entire media org and curtail its messaging to his whims is abhorrent and damaging to a democratic society long-term.
I'm in Oh Canada...our media is pushing a lying fraud out of the red province of Alberta, endorsed by Elon/Trump - they're pushing him hard, they're also paying for millions of tv ads for the guy. They are interfering in our Canadian federal election!
Fighting fascists on both sides of the border.
The American people now know that nyt and wapo, along with la times and wsj, are propaganda rags working for the republican party and other corporations.
We also know they're cowards. I suggest that, once Democrats regain power, they be given something about which they can be seriously afraid.
The X factor is mass social mobilization against oligarchy, currently in its infancy. The Beltway will not be able to spin the clear and compelling change the vast majority of people will demand.
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You’re right if we ever get back there, they’ll be hindered at every step
Voting rights, labor rights, etc. etc.
Just gonna have to roll our eyes and fight through it.
They do not represent the view of the nation. They represent the view of the oligarchy.
that's "we" america, not "we" dems
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This keeps happening
That’s the root of all this BS
People lied to their whole lives
They end up believing it
But they’re massive cowards.
Ready Day One!
The Fairness Doctrine being enforced by the government was too close to state run media for him.
Yes I see the irony and yes corporate run media is just as bad
Our press is and will remain broken
And the insane right will threaten impeachment and civil war for every move to restore it.
We must be full-throated in calling out their [fill in the blank] instead of apologizing for it.
Fuck Merrick Garland
They may not like some of the current excesses and pettinesses, but they’re petty much on board with protecting the plutocracy.
Hence all the b.s. and contrarian articles:
Biden is old.
Biden’s open border crises.
Feels like a recession though.
Job numbers are up, why this is bad for Biden.
They depress voter turnout, especially in midterms and we have no power to get anything done.
anyone involved with J6? you played softball once and look where it got us. lock em the fuck up, no bail pending trial.
involved with trump? JAIL.
Hopefully by then a collection of left wing owned media will have blossomed to counter the right wing CANCER.
Rebuilding the system they already broke is a massive mistake
Pres pardon gone - check
More SC justices - check
Serious anti-corruption legislation - check
A legislated end to Citizens United - check.
Just promise to do it and then do it.
I think they'll be swinging in the wind like all of the people and institutions that conspired to make this possible.
They aren't leaving peacefully.
50% tax on anything over a million dollars!
Then move to more normal income taxes under that, but none on people who earn less then $100,000 a year.
Solves the deficit + fully funds robust social safety nets
1. The Dems will regain power.
2. If they do, they'll actually undo most of what's been undone.
The Dems are part of the problem. They are not the good guys.
They are beholden to the same billionaire class as the Repubs.
America is an oligarchy. Let's be honest about that.
They inflict horrors of their own now.
#HANDSOFF
#INDIVISIBLE
Normal, is believing a citizen won’t be jailed for your speech.
Normal, is believing felons can’t be president.
RADICAL is seeing & acknowledging the bullshit & lies.
Stick with radicals like Thomas Jefferson & his crew, they weren’t NORMAL
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And of course, the U.K. and US are inextricably linked.
Crazy is profitable
I'm afraid you're right.
And the young members are too worried about offending people to say anything useful.
They also have years to actually stand up any semblance of their own media infrastructure vs. pandering for a few Fox News viewers.
Might wanna see how that might be improved.
When they take the low road, we take up positions on the high road with ambushes and traps in waiting.
MSM losing viewers and readers anyway.
They’re all in bed together with this lot.
The First Amendment prohibits government distinction between “news” and “entertainment” and protects most lies.
It'll have to be done anyway, but that doesn't mean it won't play into rehabilitating the GOP and bringing them back for another try.
Meanwhile Trump has a mandate to wreck millions of lives and crash the economy.
"Dems make power move by hiring air traffic controllers at the FAA"
"Controversial move to restore Veterans jobs to VA"
100%
Fighting fascists on both sides of the border.
We also know they're cowards. I suggest that, once Democrats regain power, they be given something about which they can be seriously afraid.