The AI madness is so far out of control that "Our product wrote a completely false news alert and credited a real news source" doesn't even rate a corporate comment, let alone an ashamed apology and pulling the product www.bbc.com/news/article... - ThreadSky

tomscocca.bsky.social • 71 days ago

The AI madness is so far out of control that "Our product wrote a completely false news alert and credited a real news source" doesn't even rate a corporate comment, let alone an ashamed apology and pulling the product https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0elzk24dno

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libraryanna.bsky.social•71 days ago

I have yet to come across a good AI summary.

marcosantana.bsky.social•71 days ago

lol

rayoday.bsky.social•69 days ago

When queried many AIs provide different results. As an example, I asked who are the most influential tabla players in the past 100 years. Perplexity provided different responses, with little overlap, to Gemini and ChatGPT. ChatGPT provided the most complete response

mrriddle0.bsky.social•70 days ago

I'm really confused as to why this "product" exists. Why can't they just use the actual headlines from the articles?

sanity56.bsky.social•71 days ago

AI is also responsible for corporate comments and apologies.

authorleigh.bsky.social•71 days ago

You think this lawyer’s brain was reprogrammed by AI? I mean, RFK had a brain worm.

johnaaronrose.bsky.social•70 days ago

With a crazy like Felon Musk in charge of a major AI player and adviser to Trump, how long will it be before the Felon's self-driving Cyber Trucks cause serious carnage on US roads?

isthisrob.bsky.social•70 days ago

Late 2025

zenosanalytic.bsky.social•70 days ago

BBC ought to sue. Just like that Canadian(I think?) airline being responsible for what it's customer-service chatbot says, Apple ought to be liable for what its chatbot article-scraper says. As to the underlying crime, I'd say probably libel, since it's printing false claims abt what the BBC said.

thethompsonian.bsky.social•70 days ago

It’s like RSS feeds never existed

nuke.blue•71 days ago

So many companies are eagerly racing to be the first to utterly disappoint us with their whacked out half-shaved AI offerings.

rwillson.bsky.social•71 days ago

This practice of user testing AI isn’t going well

schloko.bsky.social•69 days ago

Isn’t it interesting that the reason he shot the CEO from United Health was they were using AI ROBOTS to deny claims !?!?!! And here is Apple , using AI ROBOTS to lie to people through the news . Fck Apple News .

robertrea.bsky.social•71 days ago

AI needs to fuck off. And then when it’s done that, it needs to fuck off some more

wh0sthatd0g.bsky.social•71 days ago

"¯\_(ツ)_/¯ meh, it made a mistake, it's gonna happen"

OK THEN YOUR PRODUCT SUCKS. It's unreliable and shouldn't be on the market!

walsonbot.bsky.social•71 days ago

It’s passé to put blame on low-level employees deprived of any powers of discretion, and a la mode to blame a black box operating without sufficient constraints.

elm312285.bsky.social•69 days ago

what a horrible Apple/AI error.

Discussions & guidelines are urgently needed over what’s AI’s proper role in news reporting.

anvilwalrusden.bsky.social•70 days ago

It’s also pretty interesting that even the victim in this case (the BBC) includes only a sceptical quote saying the tech “is not there yet”. The dogged persistence of “hallucinations” in LLMs might genuinely be an irreducible fact of how they work. Human intelligence is not only an LLM.

aldonanana.bsky.social•70 days ago

Yup the whole “imagine how good it’ll be in five years!!” thing is all just marketing. Really sad to see the sentiment getting adopted widely.

kh0rish.bsky.social•70 days ago

Its definitely an irreducible fact for many reasons, but the primary being there is nothing about words themselves, or any “data” really, that tells you what it represents. Nothing in the word “red” explains red. Its just a reference. The key is physical interactions of matter and energy. Chemistry

anvilwalrusden.bsky.social•70 days ago

Well, sure, and there’s a lot of analytic philosophy about that. My understanding of Wittgenstein’s view is helpful for me, in that whether someone is competent at speaking is a matter of public action, and the problem for LLMs is that they keep failing to “get away with it”.

lardog.bsky.social•71 days ago

Generating nuclear waste for wrong answers and deep-fake porn.

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/nx-s1-5120581/three-mile-island-nuclear-power-plant-microsoft-ai

andrewopk.bsky.social•71 days ago

tbh getting a refurbished nuclear reactor for the clean energy transition at little cost to the taxpayer once the "AI" bubble collapses is a pretty good deal

lardog.bsky.social•71 days ago

I keep having this debate with friends - nuclear power is great if you have a place to safely store the waste, but in the US we won't build a storage site so we just keep it in casks on the reactor site that will eventually get damaged and leak.

alextenorio.bsky.social•71 days ago

Is that even a real photo I keep seeing? Seems awfully convenient for the elite narrative to show him angry

rikabel69.bsky.social•71 days ago

Interesting how that is now the image of choice all of a sudden. Must have gone frame by frame…

jeanvalentee.bsky.social•70 days ago

Are we discovering now what “generative” AI stands for?!?

A little word that makes all the difference in the world.

Like a very small-sized statement within footnotes nobody cares about until a lawyer is required 😅

minh.medsky.social•70 days ago

Is this what happens when you fire your editorial staff to cut cost and use AI?

shueytexas.bsky.social•70 days ago

No. This has nothing to do with any editorial staff. On-device ai made a mistake.

lepotichatnoir.bsky.social•69 days ago

📌

janicemeyers.bsky.social•70 days ago

More pathetic journalism. Cutbacks leading to lack of professional oversight.

shueytexas.bsky.social•70 days ago

This had nothing to do with journalism

r2dtoots.bsky.social•70 days ago

That final paragraph, though. 😄

mansen.bsky.social•71 days ago

Ironic. The BBC complaining about misconstruing headlines...

strangernalps.bsky.social•71 days ago

This isn’t something simple like analyzing cancer treatment insurance claims. Let’s not blame CEOs and “A.I.” unnecessarily.

changopeligroso.bsky.social•68 days ago

The machines already have us fucking each other over

game set match lol

willoremus.com•71 days ago

it’s not apple’s fault, you see. the AI did it!

snowballiv.bsky.social•71 days ago

BAd News for Bills fans

funkynassau.bsky.social•71 days ago

Untrue.

startabuzz.bsky.social•70 days ago

That’s the point.

funkynassau.bsky.social•70 days ago

There’s a point?!?

startabuzz.bsky.social•70 days ago

I shouldn’t skeet in the middle of the night. But the misinformation is the point. Of *course* it isn’t true. And these orgs turn to AI regardless. They don’t care that it’s not true. That’s the point.

snowballiv.bsky.social•71 days ago

Who are we to question Apple Intelligence?

riphotosurvey.bsky.social•70 days ago

Must be the other December.

snowballiv.bsky.social•70 days ago

But undefeated in Smarch

phaseblowly.bsky.social•71 days ago

Ah shit.

cira.bsky.social•71 days ago

Tenor the GIF site/app?

Why is it doing this, stay in your lane

snowballiv.bsky.social•71 days ago

cira.bsky.social•70 days ago

Learning lots of bad things lately

tlaquatl.bsky.social•68 days ago

Has anyone told Sander van der Linden?

invertedpyramid.bsky.social•71 days ago

Waiting for the day when it can credibly be claimed that AI accidentally started a war.

down10.bsky.social•71 days ago

WOPR is on it, I'm sure

invertedpyramid.bsky.social•71 days ago

When WOPR and AI team up, do they have a baby?

down10.bsky.social•70 days ago

A child process

invertedpyramid.bsky.social•70 days ago

Concepts of a child plan ...

annarompage.bsky.social•70 days ago

They idea of procreation will be getting rid of the human parasitic condition on earth by launching every nuke, and then allowing earth to rebuild itself thru millions of years of human feee evolution

parseword.bsky.social•71 days ago

I'm eager to see what happens when the HFT stock-trading bots get triggered by some false corporate news manufactured by the bullshit-generator bots.

erinaceousphd.bsky.social•71 days ago

The way AI-generated images are being spread on WhatsApp, this is going to be sooner rather than later. 😩

bigkittysoftpaws.bsky.social•71 days ago

Like Wargames. 😂

invertedpyramid.bsky.social•71 days ago

Damn that Ferris Bueller!

johnmulloy.bsky.social•71 days ago

The night's still young!

trueseadog.bsky.social•66 days ago

Apple says, hold my beer.

primarylupine.bsky.social•71 days ago

It's come close before. That's why we celebrate Stanislav Petrov Day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov

dalegrauman.bsky.social•71 days ago

If you liked push notifications, you'll LOVE push notifications that straight-up lie to you.

haybartender.bsky.social•70 days ago

We were warned about AI by 2001: A Space Odyssey, The Terminator and The Matrix. All very real scenarios and we are happily waltzing right into a dystopian future.

miqorems.bsky.social•70 days ago

That's... not at all what 2001 was about.

haybartender.bsky.social•70 days ago

It’s part of the story. HAL9000 took over and killed to protect himself. It’s not the whole thing but it is an important part.

austinbrian.bsky.social•71 days ago

BBC should sue Apple for libel

historiken.bsky.social•70 days ago

We need to stop letting people homeschool (or private-school) just because they don't like facts.

jaqrabbit.bsky.social•71 days ago

This cancerware should be banned.

petermdavies80.bsky.social•70 days ago

Good lord I thought it was going to be some mild detail and wow it really wasn't

dysamoria.com•71 days ago

As soon as I saw that iOS 18.2 was the public release of “Apple Intelligence”, I knew the next days would include examples of how fucking full of shit the software will be in general. When I saw that they had pulled out of investing in OpenAI (?), I was hoping that meant they’d be more careful but🙄🤦🏽‍♂️

susanschorn.bsky.social•71 days ago

Hey, it got two out of three right: "The notification which made a false claim about Mangione was otherwise accurate in its summaries about the overthrow of Bashar al-Assad's regime in Syria and an update on South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol."

jameslonghurst.bsky.social•71 days ago

what are we even doing

drewblagrim.bsky.social•71 days ago

The fervor with which tech companies are pushing this trash into publicly released products is absolutely baffling.

matwinser.bsky.social•71 days ago

This and it’s not like it just doesn’t work, it actually is worse than before. And it’s being pushed as the inevitable future. What future? Where everything is a fugue state and you don’t know what’s true?

swaimea.bsky.social•70 days ago

I suspect that is the point. When truth is no longer considered a common good, you can push whatever narrative you want.

drewblagrim.bsky.social•70 days ago

A "Denial of Sensemaking" attack.

https://bsky.app/profile/katestarbird.bsky.social/post/3ldbqvepct22c

jameslonghurst.bsky.social•70 days ago

"Denial of Sensemaking" attack, or as I call it, "my students have submitted a new set of essays that I now have to grade."

johnmulloy.bsky.social•70 days ago

2025 is gonna be lit

matwinser.bsky.social•70 days ago

😬

aliceinkeynes.bsky.social•70 days ago

They all discovered ketamine at the same time Musk did.

easecoasting.bsky.social•71 days ago

Oh dear. Poor old apple users.

farfetched58.bsky.social•70 days ago

Not me. I have an iPhone 12, and a late-2023 iMac. They work fine, and I have a *dis*incentive to upgrade.

freerangestats.info•70 days ago

This enrages me. Can't they be sued out of existence?

rhuaraidh.bsky.social•70 days ago

@bbc

Used to be a most trusted news source. Not since Robbie was engaged.

randycharb.bsky.social•71 days ago

AI feels like a video game that got released too early and we're all just beta testing it in real time. "oops! Sorry! Looks we need a few more epochs on that one!"

mikethemadbiol.bsky.social•71 days ago

📌

chickenlady.bsky.social•70 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/nickreeves.bsky.social/post/3ld7werjmtk2g

johnaaronrose.bsky.social•70 days ago

I wouldn't trust people like the Felon, the Rump, Fartage etc to run a pissup in a brewery!

pinche-pi.bsky.social•70 days ago

The same AI that denied claims?

sfjeff.bsky.social•71 days ago

Huh, so maybe the point *IS* that it's super unreliable. Publish something horrific that spreads across the internet and two days later you blame it on the computer's lil whoopsie-daisy and nobody sues anybody because they all cover each other

ferdizebua.bsky.social•71 days ago

tagging @davidimel.com @andrewmanganelli.bsky.social #WVFRMPodcast because Apple Intelligence news/controversy... ✌

iamjonjackson.bsky.social•70 days ago

All hail the GenAI slop

mrchompchomp.bsky.social•71 days ago

Huh. Seems like AI doesn’t really work. The solution is probably just to advertise it more.

truebleu.bsky.social•70 days ago

As an Apple shareholder and supporter, I say: Apple majorly messed up and needs to address this pronto.

deephurting.bsky.social•70 days ago

The BBC should sue them.

pegasusassistant.bsky.social•71 days ago

The only explanation for all of these companies using AI when it's actively shit is that they don't want to pay humans to do the same work.

Also: Why doesn't Apple just give news reports of the headlines? That's what a headline is for.

misskayrenee.bsky.social•70 days ago

hooooollllyyyyy shit

kenwig0556.bsky.social•71 days ago

Umm, this is NOT helpful.

kimberleelynn.bsky.social•71 days ago

This is the kind of stupid shit that will get a criminal exonerated.

head-cannon.bsky.social•71 days ago

Because some people’s local devices mis-summarized a news item? You know this wasn’t a published news story right?

mjfgates.bsky.social•71 days ago

No, this is published, by Apple. If I write a program that makes your computer print "BUTTS" a million times, and upload it to your computer, and swap out your Excel icon for one that points to butts.exe, it is MY responsibility when your computer buttses you forever.

Same thing.

stvncockdiamond.bsky.social•71 days ago

But it showed up on people's phones, and attributed it to a legitimate news source which made it seem credible, right?

darkphoenyx27.bsky.social•71 days ago

Plus, let's be real here:
Letting AI write entire news articles is the logical next step for companies looking to cut corners for profit.

head-cannon.bsky.social•71 days ago

Spoiler Alert: AI has already been writing entire news articles for several years now. If people are just now wondering if maybe someday that could happen, it means the AI news stories have passed a collective Turing test.

nateycf.bsky.social•70 days ago

*several* years? wrong

head-cannon.bsky.social•71 days ago

Yes it would seem credible if this was the first time someone has seen this AI mod-summarize something.

But there is an icon telling the user this is an AI summary, not the actual copy of a news story.

stvncockdiamond.bsky.social•71 days ago

But it was factually incorrect, and credited a source that did not publish any such story. Surely you can see the potential for harm here when you aren't insinuating that people are too dumb to know when AI lies to them.

ppu512.bsky.social•71 days ago

I can't wait til AI is dead and gone.

sandhill.bsky.social•70 days ago

apple is going downhill, fast.

hemlockautumn.bsky.social•70 days ago

Apple should be sued for a lot of money and frankly, AI should be permanently banned from anything related to media production or analysis.

trueseadog.bsky.social•66 days ago

Think of the Chinese economy!

hemlockautumn.bsky.social•66 days ago

Since somebody made an addon that changes "the economy" to "rich people's yachts" those articles have a different tone. 🤭

superlanyard.bsky.social•71 days ago

Of course Apple had no comment. They don’t give a shit. They’re the most evil of the evil empire.

signalthirteen.me•70 days ago

Between Apple and Google I just want my ancient Motorola Razor that couldn't do shit except make calls and look awesome.

freddiemurky.bsky.social•70 days ago

People are gonna be like "Omg, Mandela Effect. I was so sure Luigi Mangione died in prison in december 2024 😳😳😳."

kennyshirley.bsky.social•71 days ago

What an absolute pile of garbage: people “might” like this (AI slop) product because it “helps reduce interruptions” from… the non-AI version of the product??

Just multiple levels of BS to wade through in this explanation.

dconrad.bsky.social•70 days ago

It's nuts. If you wanted to do this without the danger of AI error you could simply:

Concatenate the original 3 headlines; or

Require the editors to provide 2 heds per story, one normal, one as short as possible & use the short ones in the notification; or

Have a human write the notification

dconrad.bsky.social•70 days ago

This would be safer, easier, and far cheaper, but you wouldn't get to claim you're using the "cool" new technology that uses tons of energy to generate a wrong summary

head-cannon.bsky.social•71 days ago

99.99997% of the time the Apple AI is doing the right thing by telling the user things like “Jenn says to get milk on the way home” or “Dodgers win game”.

As an R guy surely you know distant outliers do not represent the entire dataset.

dconrad.bsky.social•70 days ago

If you have access to the score data there's an easy way to generate "Dodgers win game" with 100% accuracy and no AI.

nikkijayne.bsky.social•70 days ago

How on earth is that better than actually reading the genuine notification though? It’s adding an unnecessary step.

natanael.bsky.social•70 days ago

That's why it only should be allowed to be involved where stakes aren't high. Your made up number gives it too much credit, but even if it were right it's STILL terrible with at least some billions of notifications sent daily

alangrofield.bsky.social•71 days ago

It's very telling how "Apple" gets to be a source for all the good intentions with no name attached or quotation marks but completely bungling the most basic goal of your product to needs a outside source guy to say it "looks" embarrassing(instead of like, is embarrassing).

alangrofield.bsky.social•71 days ago

Netanyahu arrested is "SAID" to be misleading, too, who the fuck edited this article and how much NVidia stock do they have

etbadaboum.bsky.social•70 days ago

Strange clicking the link or image doesn't work for me!

landmarx24.bsky.social•70 days ago

Yet more evidence that generative AI is little more than a grotesquely expensive parlor trick.

mmunozg.bsky.social•70 days ago

Hard to describe how frustrating it is seeing this awful tech being pushed everywhere and no one acting quickly enough to stop the wave of straight up lies it presents as facts. It's not worth whatever potential future minor convenience it could provide.

4quad.bsky.social•70 days ago

Oh, they're balls deep in AI. It's a corporate arms race.

trueseadog.bsky.social•66 days ago

Chinese phone in talks shite shock.

bundelabun.bsky.social•66 days ago

Bad Apple.

dwrutledge.bsky.social•68 days ago

Look, someone needs to come up with a solution to all these alerts. If only there was some way tech companies could stop their products sending endless alerts without using AI I’m sure they would. Clearly AI is great because it keeps proving critical in solving real world problems.

xanindigo.bsky.social•70 days ago

really cool how tech executives have just decided that they’re not responsible for the crap AI generates

seanmacrae.bsky.social•70 days ago

wtf ever happened to “a computer can’t be held accountable so it should never make a management decision”?

we need to bring that shit back

cza.li•68 days ago

bluestreak.bsky.social•69 days ago

That’s why they like it

rip-gdpr.bsky.social•70 days ago

Nothing new: it's been labelled "hallucinations".

Imagine it was your lawyer using it:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2023/06/08/lawyer-used-chatgpt-in-court-and-cited-fake-cases-a-judge-is-considering-sanctions/

ewokspear.bsky.social•70 days ago

"We're going to power through every legal and moral red line and shove this baby down humanity's throat! You're welcome"

notthecops.bsky.social•71 days ago

I was about to post “who the fuck keeps pushing for this AI bullshit that nobody seems to want” but then I remembered where I am. It feels as if a pretty high % of people here are devs. Like half the people that work on that kinda stuff probably have active accounts on here.

thebaroness.bsky.social•70 days ago

This why I turn off most notifications.

kitterface.bsky.social•71 days ago

Here ya go. A real WTF moment in journalism.

https://www.opb.org/article/2024/12/09/artificial-intelligence-local-news-oregon-ashland/

lepotichatnoir.bsky.social•69 days ago

📌

samadams.bsky.social•71 days ago

the whole world is not supposed to be simultaneously in beta

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