I'm still semi-sure he'll cancel them before they actually start.
Like if they couldn't put more than an hours effort into making that idiotic chart, are they really up to making this a reality, something that'll take a huge amount of work?
Market reaction to announcement reinforces certainty= if Trump involved, tariffs will act like a snowball of Trumpian cluster f*cks rolling down a steep mountain, getting larger & more deadly every inch it roles=for everyone but Trump & his mega wealthy buds & his foreign & domestic owners
The markets always react in anticipation of the news. By the time the tariffs come into effect, the markets won’t react significantly anymore. It will already be priced in.
I have it on good authority that liquor from Canada and Mexico has already had tariff charges applied. I’m sure higher prices will hit the shelves soon.
Tariffs From this week literally did not include Canada or Mexico. If you are seeing any tariff impact related to either country it is from the previous round of tariffs. Therefore your original response is inaccurate.
This is the people panicking who have been convinced that the world is ending and those who told them that are now scooping up bargain basement stocks, just as the rich planned. The only people who are losing anything are those foolish enough to follow directions to liquidate for the short term drop
Yeah, the drop is based on a guess. It's very volatile right now, and that comes with a cost reduction. Tariffs are priced in right now, but that doesn't mean the price is necessarily right because investors can't see the future.
Monday Monday
can't trust that day
WE need to start a go fund me for>
A size 4x straitjacket and 3 bigly burly X-CIA
or
For a quick removal...
25/47
Congress can just do their damn jobs and order it DONE
202-224-3121
Bull ! Prices are NOT going to drop ! This idiot in the WH with 6 bankruptcies to his credit, has no clue of what the ramifications of his actions cause! More importantly, this arrogant 🫏 doesn’t care one bit !
I’ve been watching them try
to dig out for hours, yesterday
and today.
Most trades are done by algos.
If not, this would probably be worse.
The only reason I follow the
markets is to track progress
of planned mass layoffs.
Also: possible Trump plans to
unleash hyperinflation to burn
bond holders.
It's great that I read your post and I realize that I have now turned into an infowars-like dude who reasons, "Yeah, trump would use hyperinflation to devalue US currency so everyone switches over to crypto and he can make MOOLAH".
Actually according to infowars the globalists say shit like this all the time because the devil demands it of them. So yeah I guess this is infowars level shit.
Yeah, but the biggest are not even back down to the REAL values (based on fundamentals) that preceded whatever that fcking post-election phony insanity was. So really, this is still a correction.
The delay is intentional, to give industry & international leaders a chance to buy a plate at a mar-a-lago dinner, kiss the ring and buy some $Trump coin.
Also, there's money to be made on these ups and downs.
With little or no respect, I don't want to make money on this madness. I want a better world that actually gives a shit about everything on it and not this made up bullshit.
One of the worst evils of American capitalism is that as much profit can be made by destroying things as by building them. One might even consider it a fatal flaw.
If Trump really does shut down the "de minimis" loophole in U.S. trade, then everything will get a lot higher, no doubt. If he doesn't do that "Trump thing" and reverse his decisions constantly based on reaction, that is. Everyday items under 800 will get a 30% or more tax on it, basically.
Trump is almost manufacturing his own COVID crisis this time through the trade war. US doesn't have enough homegrown manufactures and supply chains to replace everything imported. It's like the lack of toilet paper during COVID, but systemwide, lol.
I'd like to note that while they're insisting that Trump has the "Right" to issue reciprocal tariffs it's only during trade deal negotiations - notably none of which we are in the midst of, so Congress would have to pass them.
Canada, The UK, China don't *have* to wait nearly as much.
Traders with any brains will be pricing in the long-term damage from Trump's dementia economics. It will get worse but the rate of decline should slow down.
Right? This is just the reputation damage if we reverse course now. The real losses come when earnings drop, people lose jobs, and earnings drop again because people lost jobs. We are just getting warmed up.
If they reverse the tariff decision (as they should and have already caved on multiple times) it makes sense. And options are a cheap way of doing that
I don’t recommend options to anyone that needs suggestions on what to do investment wise on social media literally ever. The vast majority of retail investors lose on options. That’s all I’m saying. If you have loads of experience and disposable income, go for it
AND most people in finance don't believe Trump is serious with the tarrifs, so this isn't even the full effect. Wait till it sinks in that this shit is fully real
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Tax breaks and tariffs they want to bankrupt the working and middle class the extort our work and assets. Economic terrorism. Their greed will not end. Hands off protest April 5th.
I think the auto tariffs hit tomorrow and the rest of them hit on the 9th.
If they don’t physically restrain him and revoke the tariffs next week is gonna be a bloodbath for everyone’s jobs. They’re already preparing the layoffs
Keep in mind it has never worked before and won't now. Recall Trump and his entire unqualified Trump Administration. USA is not for sale. Impeach Trump.
This was exactly the market reaction they expected and hoped for.
Artificial depreciation of stock prices allows those with the deepest pockets, Musk etc.. to buy stock and sit it out and make billions when the stock market recovers
Everybody is being played.
I'm sorry this is patently false. You typically want a stock heavy portfolio early in life to maximize returns from growth and transition to a more bond heavy portfolio as you near retirement as growth becomes less important than minimizing risk
Sold nearly all my stocks back in january, now mostly bonds and cash. Feeling bad for the people losing, but the writing has been on the wall for months now. You can't save people from themselves.
He thinks he is negotiating from a position of strength. 1. He never told anyone he was negotiating. 2. They have dealt with him before. 3. Trump is treating our allies like dirt. This time they know his word is garbage.
Pretty sure Congress has to vote or something, potus can't just waggle an orange patagium and make tariffs magically happen.
That said, Congress is very stupid so we should be lighting up their switchboard (202) 224-3121, filling up their illegal Gmail boxes, and inviting them to chats on signal.
Seriously consider other countries for more stable future employment. It took our nephew over a year to get his new high tech job, and I'm worried if there's layoffs...
That said, congratulations! 🎓 A degree is such an accomplishment!
Wait until the implementation and the trickle down effect of increased cost of materials, parts and building supplies on the home, car and business insurance rates.
Ok that’s what I had thought but it’s not the easiest when specifics are changed on a whim. Also auto tariffs were put into place when everything else was announced which could be a possible forerunner for the rest of the market for full tariffs. Though it might not be possible to differentiate.
US auto tariffs begin, part tariffs to start May 3
A 25% import tax is being applied to foreign vehicles, though a federal register notice clarifies foreign parts will be taxed at a later date. I only kind of new this as my husband is in the auto world.
This is why it's so challenging to feel hopeful. I know fully well that the repercussions of these actions has barely even started to be felt and y'all better buckle the fuck up for the wrath of the #trumpcession.
Whats great though is that even MAGA are flipping out & theres a bunch of street interview videos showing them complaining about the tarriffs & price hikes on goods.
So even they are suffering which is great but more importantly those in the middle who voted for Trump or didnt vote will vote in '26
Goodbye Lying King!
According to you, YOU are no longer supreme!
If the Dow drops 1,000 points in two days, the president should be impeached!
So now we are done with you,
You f**king leech!
fr any corporation now has free reign to jack up the prices of literally anything and blame it on tariffs. doesn't matter if said thing was actually affected or not.
The stock prices are going down because jacking up prices makes less money. But the ones with tariffs don't really have a choice because otherwise they'll lose money on transactions.
Of course, I'm sure there will be at least *some* companies that will outright lose money. Mostly businesses with low profit margins that can't weather the storm no matter how they price their products.
Reread what you wrote. My point is most businesses will never lose money on tariffs because margins are already inflated. They’ll raise prices higher to compensate and add a little more just because they can. We seen it before.
Ah, I see what part you're looking at now. "Less money" would be indeed be more clear wording.
Anyway, there's a reason their prices weren't higher already. It's because their analysis says it's less profitable at that price point. But higher taxes force the calculus to change.
They will do this to American made products too, people who act like they won’t are fucking delusional and genuinely don’t understand how capitalism works
The company I work for raises the prices of the chicken we sell as soon as the last round of tariffs were announced. All the chickens are prepared in this state.
True, but some will see what's happening with Costco and only raise it slightly. Turns out brand loyalty does still exist. They had forgotten the caring about consumers part.
A bunch of companies, like Loblaws, did this in Canada with inflation and raised their prices astronomically when the inflation was only a fraction of that in reality.
Yep. They also did this periodically during COVID but that was global, not just Canada. It staggers me that ppl will believe almost any nonsense about why prices have gone up. That leftist gamers leave it all a the door for the likes of Nintendo.
The truth is so, so simple. It's just greed, guys.
Markets are looking forward. They may be underestimating the impact, but they may also be over estimating. Mostly no one knows. Today was a response to China's reciprocal tariffing. Next week we may see how the EU and elsewhere responds.
I called local store yesterday,had not heard anything about price increases. They said to check prices online for changes. It would be the same at the store. Have no doubt these increases are coming, so going on Monday to get a new one.USA Today says possible 40% increase $2,300 for phone.Yikes!
I think your approach is correct. No matter from which perspective, tariffs are not just an issue. Once this trend is formed, the situation of various investments in the United States will definitely change, including issues such as rates. What do you think?
Yeah. Unless you are personally connected to a person being assaulted by ICE or lost their federal job, we're still only in the "eerily quiet of birdsong" or "tides receding so far you can see coral" stages of what's coming for the economy
I bought a 25 lb bag of sugar and 30 lb bag of flour because I can make so many things from few ingredients and we have a big family. I've got kids to feed.
Big bag of rice in my basement along with beans, canned tomatoes, a few containers of
olive oil, maple syrup, vanilla extract, tuna fish… you get the idea. Been adding a little bit extra every week since Election Day
Well, only 70 million of the approximate 262 million voting age population have 401(k)s. So, maybe we haven’t reached the breakthrough point quite yet. The way things are, there’s a significant risk we never will. Like, it’s that bad… kill me.
Yep. And rising unemployment numbers haven't even started to roll in yet. Let alone a falling consumer confidence, and markedly decreased consumer spending.
The long term consequences of schizophrenic trade policy will be felt for years to come. The 2008 crash sent shockwaves that didn't settle until 2016 right in time for us to start the next recession in 2020.
The last recession actually started summer of 2019. Rates were cut down to nothing and we had already been running quantitative easing for 9 months when COVID hit. The COVID crash could have been less bad if we some levers left to pull.
OK, Donald Trump and Maga I will be stocking up on my essentials this weekend but that’s it. I’ve been boycotting since December you want to crash the economy I will help you. I will feed you what you want and I hope you choke on it #DonaldTrump #Maga #Maggots
Right you are! Wait till the prices start to rise, the economy grinds down, and the firings and layoffs start up!!! 6 months from now will really be eye opening! Whoohoo!
The stock/futures market are about pricing the future though. The sell off is going to continue for ??? but because money isn't real, them being implemented won't make the markets go down more than the fear of them being implemented in the future
Implementation will slow stock market growth though
trump gets to negotiate either real or semantic wins globally with every nation. What you're going to see are steady announcements of positive news and the market has factored worst case scenarios
Markets are always ahead of actions. But when tariffs do actually go into effect, one might want to follow the obverse (corollary) of “buy the rumor; sell the news.” Selling is happening now on the rumor, and later, on the “news” when tariffs go into effect, the market might go up.
Had to run out to my mechanic this morning to try to get my brakes done before they get way more expensive tomorrow. Everyone knows panic buying is a sign of a healthy economy.
That's what markets do. They "price in" anticipated events. Basically like an economic mood ring. Except it only has two colors and widespread consequences
Yeah. Real people at real ports of entry with real clipboards or ipads or whatever are going to be applying and collecting these tariffs. Time to get to know some a dem guys real well
Markets are usually predicting 6 months in the future. So whether the tariffs started Wednesday or Thursday or Friday or Saturday, you get my drift, they’re predicting the future and right now at 38,958, the future ain’t good. But if you were shorting stocks!🔥
to be fair the reaction to the announcement is the market trying to correct for their actual implementation. i think the bigger issue is the staggered uncertainty of other countries’ responses
Exactly! Nobody knows. The thing is though, either way he is harming the fundamental trust in us that has allowed us to build trade agreements in service of our global economic dominance for decades. He’s breaking the foundation, which was always the relationships themselves
I hope EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU is looking up where your local HANDS OFF protest is happening tomorrow.
It’s time to take to streets my peeps. https://handsoff2025.com/
Yes, the market is significantly discounting the effect of the tariffs currently. There's already been polling of traders to find out why, the answer is they mostly don't think the tariffs will actually be implemented on the 9th, or they think they'll be repealed within 6 months.
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Like if they couldn't put more than an hours effort into making that idiotic chart, are they really up to making this a reality, something that'll take a huge amount of work?
are all the same.
Always trying to
make people cry 😢
I have it on good authority that liquor from Canada and Mexico has already had tariff charges applied. I’m sure higher prices will hit the shelves soon.
#TrumpTariffs
https://lokiexcelsiorsmith.substack.com/p/a-rogues-gallery-revue?r=fd4u4
can't trust that day
WE need to start a go fund me for>
A size 4x straitjacket and 3 bigly burly X-CIA
or
For a quick removal...
25/47
Congress can just do their damn jobs and order it DONE
202-224-3121
to dig out for hours, yesterday
and today.
Most trades are done by algos.
If not, this would probably be worse.
The only reason I follow the
markets is to track progress
of planned mass layoffs.
Also: possible Trump plans to
unleash hyperinflation to burn
bond holders.
Also, there's money to be made on these ups and downs.
I say Bath & Body Works
That's how I understand it, at least. Correct me?
Until he did.
Imagine in a week, a month, or three months of paying higher prices on imported goods.
Canada, The UK, China don't *have* to wait nearly as much.
[ ] deep state action
[ ] JK or JFK situation
Tax breaks and tariffs they want to bankrupt the working and middle class the extort our work and assets. Economic terrorism. Their greed will not end. Hands off protest April 5th.
If they don’t physically restrain him and revoke the tariffs next week is gonna be a bloodbath for everyone’s jobs. They’re already preparing the layoffs
this is that too
he has or had like 3-4 sets
i bet by next year he will have 100 of them
*The stock market bursts into flames*
Artificial depreciation of stock prices allows those with the deepest pockets, Musk etc.. to buy stock and sit it out and make billions when the stock market recovers
Everybody is being played.
If only. 🤨
That said, Congress is very stupid so we should be lighting up their switchboard (202) 224-3121, filling up their illegal Gmail boxes, and inviting them to chats on signal.
(Damn, now i sound like my parents used too)
That said, congratulations! 🎓 A degree is such an accomplishment!
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/03/business/what-the-auto-tariffs-mean-to-you/index.html
A 25% import tax is being applied to foreign vehicles, though a federal register notice clarifies foreign parts will be taxed at a later date. I only kind of new this as my husband is in the auto world.
https://bsky.app/profile/aweller921.bsky.social/post/3llyswsjv6c25
So even they are suffering which is great but more importantly those in the middle who voted for Trump or didnt vote will vote in '26
According to you, YOU are no longer supreme!
If the Dow drops 1,000 points in two days, the president should be impeached!
So now we are done with you,
You f**king leech!
Anyway, there's a reason their prices weren't higher already. It's because their analysis says it's less profitable at that price point. But higher taxes force the calculus to change.
The truth is so, so simple. It's just greed, guys.
All we are seeing so far is the the tip of the pain iceberg.
olive oil, maple syrup, vanilla extract, tuna fish… you get the idea. Been adding a little bit extra every week since Election Day
Implementation will slow stock market growth though
I have a feeling a lot of people are buying the wrong dips lmao
On April 5, we march!!
#HandsOff
I don't think that this is a dead cat with a particularly high coefficient of restitution.
There's a lot of 'imaginary' money from years of quantitative easing in the system.
Will being a reserve currency save us?
Something Something shoot the messenger Something Something
😭
6 % unemployment
4.2 inflation & rising
Fed doesn’t know which to attack
It’s time to take to streets my peeps. https://handsoff2025.com/
Bread. 4.00
Tariff. 1.00
Milk. 3.00
Tariff. .75
Total. 8.75
Thank you for shopping at Trumps World
The US stock market looks at US stocks. That hasn't changed in 96 years.