The big question is will they obey the court order? If not we know our system has been overthrown.
If yes, every news organization should have this guy front and center telling what he experienced in the gulag.
This. This very well could be the 'constitutional crisis' that forces things to move one way out the other. If they defy the Supreme Court openly, then it's either he goes or we're toast...nothing in between anymore. There are still ugly middle ground outcomes possible, but that would end those.
The government must “facilitate” his return. So now we start 6 months of debate over what qualifies as “facilitating”. Meanwhile, Garcia is still in El Salvadorian concentration camp.
From this court, I am pleasantly surprised. Someone finally set a much overdue boundary. I now expect a furious tantrum. Nothing enrages a narcissist so much as when someone establishes boundaries. This cabinet seems filled with narcissists.
Before you get excited/relieved by this decision, read Joyce Vance's comments. It appears the conservative justices provided an out for the U.S. government to not actually return the man to the U.S. Scary stuff!
I fear the man is already dead. The other stomach turner is the conservative justices are leaning toward authoritarianism and not towards democracy with this parsing of the words. Americans need to understand that 9-0 vote does NOT mean what we thought it meant initially.
No one in power is really concerned about governance of the country or taking care of the people. The only concern now is which party gets the favor of oligarchs so they can collect bribes and loot the country. The aim of SCOTUS seems not to be an actual court of justice but to be an arm of a Party.
Will he do it, though? He seems to operate on his own terms - illegal, immoral, vindictive... - and there doesn't seem to have been any repercussions for him. At least not yet.
If they don’t we will have an actual 100% constitutional crisis to which is they refuse the constitution and rule of law no longer apply and we are no longer nation.
Absolutely, meanwhile El Salvador says they asked the US for specific detainees and they have records and dossiers but also will not provide evidence. This shit show only just started.
I think our finest legal minds need to start looking at ways to bring criminal charges against those who perpetrated the kidnapping since simply asking the administration to get him back isn't working. T can pardon them for federal offenses, so the state of Maryland needs to get creative here.
And we know, KNOW they can do it.
And the civil lawsuit, with criminal charges against Bondi and tRump should follow, along with a huge financial compensation.
🚬😎
This needn't have gone all the way to the Supreme Court!
A simile is the prosecutor's insistance that he is convinced of an innocent man's guilt, after The Innocence Project finds the proof to exonerate him.
But they couldn’t say the word immediately because they didn’t know what effectuate means. Kicked it back to the lower court. I’d like to effectuate some of them to jail. I bet they could figure it out then.
Reuters was cited for the unanimity of the ruling but when I went to Reuters I could not find them saying it was unanimous. What's your source on that?
🍊💩 better not! Clarence Thomas decided against Facism!? 😂 Doubt it. BUT, loyal lapdog Mike Judas Johnson can alter only by the rarely used procedure of constitutional amendment or by a new ruling of the Court?
They will do whatever the convicted felon tells them to do. Now, the question is: What will be the consequences when the convicted felon refuses to comply?
Now work on getting the other 75% that have committed no crimes then the other 22% that have committed misdemeanors. Out of everyone sent there for LIFE….there are 9-10 people that have committed serious crimes. These are human beings sent there to die and the tax payers are paying the bill.
No, it didn’t say “Trump must remove him from prison,” but it did say the U.S. must act to facilitate his return and undo the harm caused by the illegal deportation.
Sort of. You guys really need to knock it off with the misinformation. If you would just post actual journalism articles instead of turning them into image files with no alt text, you’d be doing a public service, but as it is you’re just putting out disinformation to promote your own grift.
If trump gets his way we wonenbate going to have a hard time voting because of that stupid real Id. I think that’s ridiculous and I’m letting my senators know about that too. Every woman except a few changed there name when they got married to the husbands. Now we have to prove it?
Yes or go back to our maiden names which is also a pain in the butt bc you have to change all sorts of documents and info ie banking, insurances, gov docs, credit cards, etc...
AND we all have to provide birth, marriage, & divorce records if applicable to get the REAL ID driver's licenses. Those
I know and who keeps all those documents in your house your whole life. If I’d have known I’d have kept my maiden name . I older and I have only 4 bills but I’d have to change everything else . Oy !
Well I saw 4 dems voted yes & that’s why it passed . I have no clue why. I’m thinking because the senate had more reps then Dems it’ll just pass . I’ll find out tho and let you know . I’ve put my calls in to my two senators already ( ones my neighbor 😂) she knows exactly how I feel
Are they Dems in name only? They need to be primaried if so. I have made calls except my rep is actually an insane MAGA so is not worth calling (not Sporkfoot thankfully or Boebo, but almost as brainwashed)
I don’t know but my two senators are a Democrat and a Republican . The Republican one is my neighbor and she is leaving after her term she is getting old but she’s fed up . The other one is great but hard to get a hold of .
I’m extremely glad they did this, but it’s also a crumb thing. Pacify the people with this because they are calling for impeachment of their behinds again
Maybe that explains why Trump expressed surprise about Israeli parents wanting their children’s remains returned from Gaza. It’s on his mind and he wants to minimize its importance. Often, his thinking doesn’t go any deeper than that.
Well, let’s it all pivots on 1. how to properly define the verb “facilitate” which is not to be confused with “effectuate” and 2. the Court must show “due deference to the Executive.”
They didn’t use that word. If the man is still alive I think he will have a while to wait. The only way that boy is coming home is if T thinks it scared enough people. I don’t think it has because the whites are still out there trafficking kids. Fl bust just broke the largest record
What about all the other ones that were accused of being criminals but never vetted or given due process. I thought that was the 9-0 that they are all entitled to due process.
Trump and F.S. still needs SCOTUS for a couple things. Once they have the decisions they need, SCOTUS will be changed markedly. Wish I knew what decisions they were.
It didn't. But they don't want this man back. That's the message. They were mad they had to admit they made a mistake. The one regime lawyer on leave for being honest in court... Trump believes in never admitting error. But also needed the bodies to pump those "evil immigrant" numbers up.
That's not really what the court ruled, it ruled only the administration must try. Further, we don't know it was 9-0. We know only there were no written dissents to a per curiam decision.
Nope. SCOTUS judgement upholds the previous decision & specifically states:
The order properly requires the Government to “facilitate”
Abrego Garcia’s release from custody in El Salvador and to
ensure that his case is handled as it would have been had
he not been improperly sent to El Salvador.
"Facilitate" is not the same as an order to return. It just means the government has to supposedly try. The other language, about process, is in the Sotomayor's concurrence. The per curiam says nothing about process.
Unfortunately,they only ruled that Trump has to facilitate his return,it doesn't compel him to do it. They also said it is now a foreign affair,as the prison is in el Salvador & USA has no jurisdiction there. So still a long way to go before this innocent man is returned home.I pray that he makes it
They cherry pick the cases they vote correctly on so they don’t hinder the complete clusterfuck they’re turning us into. Returning one guy is not enough to interfere with their hostile takeover, so they’re letting it go.
The Supremes neglected to say when Mr. Garcia should be brought home. But they should put Trump and Noim into that prison until Mr. Garcia is released.
BUT... The administration is still making excuses as to why he should not be returned! 😡... Kristi Noem could have brought him home while she was visiting/taking a photo op at the Prison where he's incarcerated in El Salvador!
The only other possibility that I see is that someone convinces him to sell it as it was impossible to bring him back, but that someone else made a mistake and so trump being the only one who can do the impossible, gets him home and everyone should worship his greatness.
Even though I read all this crap day and night, I honestly never even thought of that. I pray the man is all right and they bring him home soon! Should've been the next day. Should've actually been never my heart bleeds for him and his family actually for anyone non-deserving of being there.
Wow can y’all believe it! They finally made one decision that’s right for the country not what’s best for trump. The boss is going to be pissed and want them removed for deciding against him! 😳
BREAKING: The Supreme Court says the government must facilitate the RETURN of Abrego Garcia from El Salvador to the United States. https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25...
Russian Journalist, Yevgenia Albats says “He’s a professional liar. To lie, is what he was taught in the intelligence school. He was pretending that he was going to pursue the same development of Russia as Yeltsin did. But that’s all just one big lie.” - Putin’s Revenge
“The Supreme Court.. required Donald Trump’s administration to “facilitate” the return of a Maryland man mistakenly deported to El Salvador… stopped short of requiring the gov to return him to the US…The court did not give the administration a deadline for when Abrego Garcia should be returned.”
My understanding of “facilitate” to make easy or easier. So the court is saying they (administration) needs to make it easier to get him back in the country.
That would be my read to. They have to “help”. But if they claim they tried to help but it wasn’t effective because they can’t compel the Salvadoran government, have they complied?
This type of news is like the stock market: Up one day, down the next
Please, don't get your hopes up. I hate to be your Debby Downer but...Kilmar Garcia is not home and it appears "the government" is stalling, saying they don't know, they can't, they will not...
Don's next step to control Musk.
Tesla needs many parts/components made in China.
Don will decide which components will be subject to the tariffs. He'll use his " instincts" to decide which components are exempt from tariffs.
If Musk kisses the ring; don's China tariffs will be favorable to musk.
Effing RIGHT the vote was 9-0!
The tRump fluffers on the SCOTUS knew better than to screw around on this one.
They know what side their bread is buttered on.
Actually, I think there's some fuckery afoot with those 6 judges who usually support the Orange Kunt.
They've got something up their sleeves to facilitate his fascist agenda...
This very act proves the regime cares nothing for removing "hardened criminals" via immigrant removal... it's about removing brown people and those of us who stand against the regime.
They're suppose to protect the rights of ALL Americans, not just overweight spray-tanned CONVICTED blowhards sitting in the Oval Office with a sharpie that never seems to run out of ink.
Betting it will take 2 weeks, just like every other plan the orange 🤡 claims he'll come out with. Just long enough for it to disappear from the news cycle.
I think he is dead along with other which is why no proof of life to lawyer or wife.👹 They know when we find out the international community and USA will pop off. They will delay as long as can.😬
The DOJ says they don't have that information -- the "client" hasn't given it to them. Whether they can't or just won't give that information, who knows? But if he's dead, it might be a match in the tinder box.
Why the stalling because they know international community and USA will pop off. All those people were kidnapped and all need to get due process. They will do it to citizen dissenters next because they have in papers that they can take citizens.👹👹👹
Without due process and the opportunity to prove you're a citizen, they already can. SCOTUS tried to put a stop to that, but it's meaningless. "You can't make me," and they're helpless. We need to start looking at broad criminal charges in MD for those who did the deed and chase it up to the top.
I hope if he’s not returned for whatever reason, that his wife sues the government for everything they got. If they can disappear people with no regard to laws, they can do that to any of us.
Actually they already wrote that they can do this to citizens so if he is not accounted for (along with rest) then we are in dictatorship and need to depose according to founding documents.
No ONE is SAFE without Due Process - Let's not fool ourselves - Trump’s deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia was deemed “wholly lawless” and “shocks the conscience.”
We MUST ask ourselves- who is next? #supremecourt #deportations #dumptrump #resist #whoisnext #lawless #texaslawyer
I'll be shocked if they comply with any orders from any court. It's the new age of ignoring the law, doing what you want, and openly daring anyone to hold you accountable.
It may well be too good to be true. They ruled that trump has to 'facilitate' trying to get him back,but didn't 'order' him to. Also said it's now a foreign affair and USA has no jurisdiction in El Salvador so can't make them do anything. That is my layman's understanding of explanations by lawyers.
No, not quite. SCOTUS required them to “facilitate” Garcia's return but suggesting they might not need to “effectuate” it, an important distinction. They can claim they TRIED to facilitate but weren’t able to effectuate Garcia’s release and that'll be that. https://joycevance.substack.com/p/the-supreme-court-finally-rules
The complete hypocrisy. A man who has benefited from due process and our justice system his entire life instead of being immediately imprisoned or deported, now wanting to throw all of this out for innocent people. Next level.
OBVIOUS SOLUTION:
We tell trump lawyers that if KILMER GARCIA is NOT returned by Monday….
that his 3 kids and wife EACH qualify for Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid.
Idk how a family affords the kind of legal representation this will demand. Moreover, we ALL know the reason others names remain unknown is bc there are more innocent men there still.
As justice Kagan wrote in her concurrence, it's a travesty that Roberts stayed the ruling that would have required Abrego Garcia to be returned on Monday. Now there is no timeline for his return, just a general ruling that he has to be returned at some point.
Thank God! What about Romero, the gay make up artist? He has tatoos saying he loves his mom and dad. Dear God, bring the man back before they kill him.
Can y'all believe I just got a post from someone who doesn't want any of the detainees sent down to hell to come back.I don't even remember the name. I blocked. Such sadism is rampant among trump cult. So perverse to want to hurt someone who deserves due process & whose rights were violated. #SADISM
who is ICE ... who are the criminal thugs running this organisation .. who are the the officers complicit in this appalling behaviour and who is making decision to randomly arrest people?
That's really great cause he was a victim of an administrative error as they call it and. Trump completely. Ignored and needs to be held accountable for his poor reactions. Cause this guy and others need not be victims of Trump's stupidity etc
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. The courts are there as a tool for his deranged fantasies. They are useless play things to him and nothing else. He has shown that he will do whatever he wants. Realistically what are they gonna do if he doesn’t?
It's interesting that Trump says stuff without evidence all the time and his minions just believe him, but if you say something negative about him with a wheelbarrow full of evidence it's never enough for them to believe you.
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If yes, every news organization should have this guy front and center telling what he experienced in the gulag.
May they suffer for eternity
https://joycevance.substack.com/p/the-abrego-garcia-case-a-quick-update?publication_id=607357&post_id=161102505&isFreemail=true&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxMjc3NDY3LCJwb3N0X2lkIjoxNjExMDI1MDUsImlhdCI6MTc0NDM4NDg1NSwiZXhwIjoxNzQ2OTc2ODU1LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItNjA3MzU3Iiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.Tm5qbWB30oulLN3yH35oK6qQ0Or_1mySIK6NVjyR7Oc&r=rdp7&triedRedirect=true
I'm so glad they decided this. Hopefully, he can come home soon.
This gives them wiggle room.
No deadline!
I'm sorry for my cynicism but meanwhile there's an innocent man in a prison somewhere in the world he shouldn't be!
And the civil lawsuit, with criminal charges against Bondi and tRump should follow, along with a huge financial compensation.
🚬😎
A simile is the prosecutor's insistance that he is convinced of an innocent man's guilt, after The Innocence Project finds the proof to exonerate him.
Anyone want to chime in?
Shameful.
The GOP is going to get annihilated if we still have mid-terms and a chance for a free and fair election in 2026.
Am not holding my breath on that last part.
AND we all have to provide birth, marriage, & divorce records if applicable to get the REAL ID driver's licenses. Those
Is she afraid of his MAGA cult? Have read some Republicans in Congress say they are ...off the record to their Democratic peers.
Good job supreme court
He’s dead
Are we...not cooked? Do we still have..adults that believe in democracy and the rule of law?
This is the best news i've heard in weeks
The order properly requires the Government to “facilitate”
Abrego Garcia’s release from custody in El Salvador and to
ensure that his case is handled as it would have been had
he not been improperly sent to El Salvador.
You got a Bloomberg terminal or something?
Welp, I'll be damned.
Guess POTUS isn't the only branch practicing whiplash.
Whatever, that's wonderful news. SCOTUS can still suck my dick, but man...super happy for Abrego. Start a Go Fund Me. I'll send you $100.
They are still cunts.
Did I do that right?
You gave him a crown, and now he will use the scepter to crush you by simply saying no, and you have no recourse.
Treasonous puppets that will go down in history as the primary reason for fascism
Surely we haven't gone that far.
Right?
I'm unable to imagine how bad it really is.
This is not the land of the free.
Not like this.
And every other person deported without due process
Jose Franco Caraballo Tiapa
Francisco Garcia Casique
Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia
Jerce Reyes Barrios 💙
WHERE ARE THE CHILDREN??!!!
Please, don't get your hopes up. I hate to be your Debby Downer but...Kilmar Garcia is not home and it appears "the government" is stalling, saying they don't know, they can't, they will not...
I like your innate optimism tho. 💙
Due process is for everyone here.
#handsoff
I cannot believe we're going to have to fight person by person for our rights while this regime kidnaps Americans by the hundreds...
https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-maryland-deportation-trump-9f46dd62890befdc321ed1ab56107470
Tesla needs many parts/components made in China.
Don will decide which components will be subject to the tariffs. He'll use his " instincts" to decide which components are exempt from tariffs.
If Musk kisses the ring; don's China tariffs will be favorable to musk.
Because considering his ego, I don't doubt he'd find this cartoon flattering.
So yea, I still say he should be smaller. 😊
The tRump fluffers on the SCOTUS knew better than to screw around on this one.
They know what side their bread is buttered on.
They've got something up their sleeves to facilitate his fascist agenda...
When will the judge hold Pam Bondi, Marco Rubio and the Trump Admin in contempt?????
Coup in progress
“Only a $1000, Clarence?”
It’s a
We MUST ask ourselves- who is next? #supremecourt #deportations #dumptrump #resist #whoisnext #lawless #texaslawyer
I'll be shocked if they comply with any orders from any court. It's the new age of ignoring the law, doing what you want, and openly daring anyone to hold you accountable.
Wow
How was that so obvious ?
Did they throw a party
We tell trump lawyers that if KILMER GARCIA is NOT returned by Monday….
that his 3 kids and wife EACH qualify for Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid.
#BRINGROMEROBACK!!!
Just an exception...
Probably threatened
Trump will say he escaped the prison.
WHAT. AN. ASSHOLE.