New CNN Poll: 56% disapprove of Trump on economy. Overall approval 45%. Disapproval 54%. 1% no opinion. (Basically there's never that low a number who has no opinion on that kind of question.
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Trump is losing the support of Wall St. The dissonance to what he is doing is spreading beyond the democratic base now.
The cataclysmic decline in Tesla’s stock price is the barometer of faith in Trump. Oh dear lol
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Just curious-- where do these CNN polling numbers come from? I've never met anyone who has been polled and answered said poll. No one has ever asked me what I thought. Is this like the Nielsen TV ratings where some people are "in the system" and are asked their opinion and others aren't?
after you'd answer the questions, they'd hit you up for donations and wouldn't let you submit your answers without paying. Guessing that no one takes those polls.
The bifurcation of reality is complete. People have picked their information sources and will die before believing anyone else. There is nothing that could occur that can drive those numbers any lower. Recession, war, pandemic, declaration of martial law...
Also, how does he have the support of 45% of the poll participants when only 31% of the country voted for him?
I doubt that anyone who didn’t vote for him suddenly approves of this destruction
That’s an important point that underscores just how polarizing he is. I wonder, given how he his bulldozing through the executive branch, and how he has captured the Congress, if he is even concerned about low approvals.
Who are the 45%? They are not the unaffected top 3%. Not a single demographic but a hodgepodge of brainwashed pseudo Christians and other ignorants and fantasists. Every country has them. Only here we handed them the power to rule over us.
How in the hell does Tin Pot Donny still have 5 points below 50 percent? It's because CNN isn't allowed to say the word COUP! If Jake Tapper and Dana Bash want to keep any shred of credibility they would ditch CNN and join Acosta on Substack.
45% are delusional. Republicans thought the economy at the height of the pandemic was better than at any point in Biden’s presidency. Their brains are broken and haven’t been able to produce an objective thought for nearly a decade.
We're dealing with a hermetically sealed belief-reinforcement media ecosystem these people have voluntarily plugged themselves into in which even the *measles death of their kids*,the 1st such in 10 years, isn't enough to shake their faith that perhaps they have been wrong.
That poor guy’s a Mennonite, though, he’s not plugged into any kind of media ecosystem so much as he’s the prey animal for predatory disinformation brokers. It’s a subculture that is inherently uneducated, unsophisticated in dealing with the “English” world, and unable to parse external media.
The Amish are actually more resistant since they have fewer points of contact with the English, unlike Old Colony Mennonites. But the OCM mindset isn’t MAGA, it’s just very susceptible to it. (The ‘04 GWB campaign was the first attempt to politically co-opt Mennonites, and it’s been downhill since.)
We have at least 33% uneducated, uninformed & bigoted. Stonekettle met a guy bitching about gas price who said Biden has been out of office for a month and was STILL screwing us. The mouthpieces are harping on podcasts and talk shows that this is all to save us from the horrible Bidenomics.
Curious how much of the approval is low-educated + low-earning individuals. Easily swayed + no resources anyway = easily manipulated and don't care about the economy because they don't have any money anyway.
25 percent of people will stick with him no matter what. 10 percent of 45 percent might sour on him. It stinks but these numbers reflect reality of our situation at this time.
45% of Americans are just completely off their rocker and that's a problem that isn't going away quickly or easily. Related: We also have corrupt mega-rich.
It follows from this that approximately 2% of the population disapproves of Trump's handling of the economy but support him otherwise. Who are those people? Are they just straight fascists?
The the worst is yet to come in a couple months for him. When gas prices naturally go up and people can't get into national parks because of Elon's chainsaw.
No, they are low for a President at this time in his term. Biden was still riding high at this point. Anyway, the bad scenario for Republicans doesn't require Trump's support to go to 30%, which will probably never happen.
Not one month in though. You can look at Gallup’s polling for presidents going back to Truman. Clinton, W & Biden were all at about 57% approval one month in. Obama was at 67%.
Most poll aggregators (e.g., The Economist, 538 before it went poof) now have Trump's approval underwater. RCP still has Trump barely above water at +0.2, thanks to a Trump +9 Harvard/Harris poll from 3 weeks ago they're still holding in their calculation.
10% of the public has never heard of JD Vance, while only 2% have never heard of the South African NAZI. It's the ignorance and the ability of the right wing propaganda machine to manipulate that ignorance that has us where we are today.
46% of the electorate is unpersuadable. Progressives/Centrists are not thinking big enough. The entire debate is a “messaging” debate to win the next election. That is absolutely necessary but is not enough. The entire system of American governance needs to be reformed starting with the Presidency.
If people only knew then what we know now. But there still a majority of voters who will 1) not vote for a woman, and 2) not vote someone who is not white.
If you look at almost any current polling of the economy and Trump, democratic approval is non existent and republican approval is high and steady. You need to see the numbers this way to see the real story.
Trump has a high floor of locked in support, unfortunately. We're not quite at his floor yet, but 45% is pretty bad for him, considering. What's really encouraging is this:
-The underwater Econ numbers, rare for Trump
-The change over time. Non-partisans are reacting rationally to Trump's actions
For us in Europe it is quite incomprehensible why people would support such an obvious dumb and lying person in the first place. People must be highly uneducated
Rupert Murdoch's Fox News does everything it can to obscure Trump's actions and his character from its audiences, by lying outright, and by refusing to report things that might discredit him.
Propaganda works.
Look, if Europe were as boneheaded as you say, we would have seen people like Nigel Farage and Marine La Pen become major political figures and fascist parties like UKIP and AfD being electorally successf…
Brainwashing and propaganda. Some of his supporters are educated, but they sit in front of Murdoch-media for hours and believe everything they’re told.
I assume the Murdoch propaganda machine doesn’t work in Europe? Must be nice!
Being an American in America and spending most of my time in a rural area I do understand it. But it's pretty embarrassing. These polls do tend to be a lagging indicator tho
Canadian. Spent a few days in Austin among Americans. It’s remarkable how little any of this seeps in if you’re not online. Absolutely no mention of Trump. Just people enjoying life.
Among the sane, we're all still basically in shock that this is happening- as one of my closest friends put it in a one-word text the morning of 11/6: "Unfathomable"
It's incomprehensible to very many people here too. But racist appeal to unengaged and uninformed voters, anti-immigrant appeals are similar to what drove Brexit, France's lean right, Italy, Hungary, and the rise of the AFD in Germany. Granted, Trump is the dumbest of all. But otherwise similar.
I mean why was Berlusconi popular, or Van Wilders? Think about how dumb their supporters are and just extrapolate it to the Americans who fall for right wing media propaganda
Yes, people lack an applied understanding of civics, in part because what they learned in school has been overwritten by years spent living in a driving, grinding, rat-race economy, which makes subjects of us to whatever extent our various caste systems allow. But mostly, they've been brainwashed.
You can't let people replace all sources of information with a series of apparatuses that are meant to pander to their delusions and bigotries and just generally feed them an alternate reality while telling them it's real news and real commentary. Europe learned this, but we arrogantly disregarded.
You have no idea! Even those with years of schooling, who can read, write, & do math cannot think. They have no curiosity. They stumble through life with no more awareness of anything beyond their immediate vicinity than farm animals. And then they only pay attention if it affects them directly.
Dare I draw a correlation between Europe’s largely affordable/free universities, and America’s belief that people need to fund their own university education, with $75,000-$300,000 worth of student loans?!
how do we know thats true? How do we know they didnt just rtape and murder the children and blame bangthazi like they doi everything else? Nazi perverts scyeered out of their nazi bhcrao by an email doint get to plkay doctor
The President usually gets a lot of leeway from the public in their first 6 months. Approval +60 percent is the norm so Trump is historically unpopular...
But I agree with you, it's still way too high relative to where it should be
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The cataclysmic decline in Tesla’s stock price is the barometer of faith in Trump. Oh dear lol
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I'm guessing most of us block the polls thinking they are scam calls/texts.
I have also sometimes rec'd links to what claimed to be polls, but
Any time I see headlines with something like "86% of Americans said..." I have to question it because no one asked me shit
I doubt that anyone who didn’t vote for him suddenly approves of this destruction
31.78% voted for trump
30.84% voted for Harris
1.06% voted for third party
36.33% did not vote
"its tha conmy stoopid, conmy, stoopid..."
Its going to get awfully cold out there for the GOP. Better bundle up.
That says 45% don’t give a flying f**k about democracy or the Rule of Law
It’s staggering in supposedly the World’s oldest & finest democracy & the rest of the World sees it & knows
They're unsalvageable.
There’s still a big constituency out there who will just reliably be reactionary no matter what, and we are only 7 weeks in.
"Whut do ah keer whut sum (multiple ethnic slurs) thinks? Ah know a commanust when ah see one!"
Is it a good sign that so many people disapprove? Can we use that to build momentum?
Trump was at about 45% last time too
Only slightly lower than Election Day
It’s a concrete floor
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/donald-trump/approval-rating
Fox Morning sympathy roller coaster calls
Elon hears Dark Side of the Moon for the first time
Pafff. 🇨🇦 🤙 🇺🇸
too low...
How is that even possible?
-The underwater Econ numbers, rare for Trump
-The change over time. Non-partisans are reacting rationally to Trump's actions
Propaganda works.
Come on
Wait.
I’m being handed some fresh information.
I assume the Murdoch propaganda machine doesn’t work in Europe? Must be nice!
It's going to take real, sustained pain to steer some people away from Trump.
People feel pain, vote for change.
We on the left have deluded ourselves into thinking this is a small minority on the right in the US. Many Americans are pro-fascism.
But I agree with you, it's still way too high relative to where it should be