Mike Pence is a decent man and a true conservative. I agree with very few, if any, of his policy positions. But I acknowledge he is a man of principle and good intention, even if I think those intentions of good do not align with my own.
Interesting if you can Ron find the whole thing &post it please.I also find it very intriguing that for somebody that trump tried to have hanged would not follow through and not only the preservation of himself but the country&the Constitution that he is sworn to.Shouldve had him impeached & removed
It’s just too bad that Pence didn’t think the people were more important than him sucking up to the felon who is now trying to kill the country! Pence is partially at fault along with any/all of the people who voted for him!
"What started as US election interference has now spread to other countries. We're currently doing the same thing in Germany and other European nations."
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Ok, I’m going to blow my mind if within a week, I can applaud both Mitch McConnell and Mike Pence. WTF. Proof that everything is inside out and upside down.
Great words, for Trump to ignore and continue on with his dictatorship. America we weep for you, how on earth could such a large country, no longer great, be railroaded into being ruled by this moron and his cohorts, just how?
You laid in the same bed as this piece of shit for four years. You saluted him as he broke the law! For four years you stroked his little, tiny penis! So now today, STFU. You sir, have NO SAY going forward!
I totally agree we need all the help we can get, but he has no influence.
He could’ve made all the difference in the world if he had gone through with the impeachment, but he did not. Once in a while, he gets up a little bit of nerve and says something and then he retreats back to his shell.
Did it? It's like he forgot that for the last 4 years and especially during the election. He did not call out Trump, project 2025 or any MAGA representatives. He should have fought hard to stop any of their re elections.
Mike Pence is just a 'yes man.' He has always done as he was told. He never wanted Trump president, but he would go along as vice and help him. Trump didn't want him around except as his yes man. The GOP guys hardly ever turn on their party. I hope this is a good sign.
Have you noticed how he has his wife with him a lot? I think she's the one doing the decision making. Another article or two I read pointed out the same thing. Just watching them in videos. Nothing wrong with it, just seems weird for a leader.
He’s not a leader IMO, he followed Trump GOP all the way to J6. He thought he could stand above it. He did the right thing only after much counsel, consternation: seems you would know right/wrong, Constitutional/not, ethical/not, a lie/truth, right? He struggled because he seriously contemplated it.
Yeah and what’s not stated is how PEGASUS helped Hungary turn into an authoritarian wonderland.
Unrelated but I’ve seen a few articles stating that seated republicans were being coerced from “outside sources” to fall in line for all cabinet nominees.
Hoping for clashes among the groups on the right. The Billionaires behind the Butterfly Revolution and Trump the Would-be-Autocrat will hopefully come to a "Fork in the Road" rather sooner than later.
👍Yes, maybe that is enough ... but Trump is NOT playing by the rules ... looks a little bit too nice for me, we need something stronger, something from the ground and up ...
Pence is the old school type of Republican who too many people still think we are dealing with. Those Republicans:today's Right Wing = Twitter:X. I still think Pence is Satan, so I have no equivalent for today's evil right wing.
He took the job no body else wanted and really distanced himself from Trump for nearly 4 years. And in the end did the right thing. He isn’t a saint by any means, but he earned a sliver of my respect
And he’s probably afraid to speak out now since the Jan 6 crazies are out and are still holding that rope. Where is the courage? We’re all going to need barrels of it.
The ChristianRight don't believe in Penance ... so I don't know his intention.
He's part of the problem. Pense SERVED and IMPLEMENTED the whims of a dangerous man until ONE DAY, for a minute or two, he did the right thing.
He tried that, and then a mob tried to murder him on January 6, 2021.
Pence's continued opposition to Trump, while not as forceful nor as impassioned as many would prefer, is still better than all of the rolling over for him all the other Rs are doing.
If America is going to find a way out of this, you need to unite the right and left. There are good sensible republicans out
there but they are not going to listen to or follow democrats, leftists or woke. However republicans that speak up and say the things they are thinking might listen.
Yes they screwed up in the past and didn't stop him when they could have. But they are speaking up now and maybe there are republican senators and congressmen who agree with them but are afraid to speak up. Give them a chance to rally the right.
Unfortunately Trumps base is larger than the remaining republicans and they despise Pence and anyone that shows compassion to anyone outside of the white evangelical Christian base.
Perhaps. But there are a lot of left leaners who want neither moderate nor democratic. In reality we’re 4 parties - the anti-capitalist movement is larger than people give credit.
Hell, we still need to unite the goddamn left. The amount of sniping I see over old wounds is disheartening and honestly has a lot of parallels to pre-Reich Germany. We have a lot of fixing to do on the left, but now we have a common evil to fight, and it’s paramount we do it together.
As much as I do not like that man, at least he has some principal. Maybe he understands our country is a fragile thing, screw it up and our money is worthless. it ain’t gonna matter how rich you are.
Orange fElon has come to my attention. Please use that’s and others in your descriptions. But please don’t use the word felon in the White House. The Orange Gas Bag seems sensitive to it so he banned it from being used on emails or spoken in the White House.
I appreciate Pence posting this and I appreciated his actions on Jan 6th .
However I find him spineless for not publicly speaking out afterwards .
I put him in the boat with all other GOP leaders who have done nothing but enabled Cheeto
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At President Carter’s funeral, Mike Pence shook hands with the traitor felon who approved of the J6 mob’s desire to hang him. 😡 His wife, Karen, had more sense and comprehension than her husband by remaining seated with her hands in her lap. Where did Mike Pence post his message? Is he on BlueSky?
From the wife's perspective, I can only imagine her rage at seeing Trump & realizing this man was the single reason a violent mob was trying to murder her husband & the father of her children. Any other woman would be trying to scratch Trump's eyes out on sight!! Trump is lucky they were in public!
I believe their grown daughter was with her dad that day, as well. So the wife could have lost husband and daughter. I, too, can imagine her rage at seeing Trump.
Essentially, called out Musk/Trump/Republicans for the budgeted cuts to Medicaid and pointed out that a good number of MAGA voters are on assistance and how they are hurting their own base
He should of wrote this back when DT needed to be removed from office.
And didn't he put judgement on aids patients.
He wasn't any of this either.
That he says above but he tried to be.
So a little late for me.
Once doesn't do much.
You stand up and post, publish etc to help fight back.
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Not a fan of Pence, BUT he did save our country in 2020. One of the few repubs to actually do the right thing for us and our constitution. Now he should get out there with Kinzinger and Cheney. Mitt Romney should get into the fight as well.
Every time I’ve heard Pence he still defends those wonderful things he and Trump did during their administration. His wife is more courageous than he will ever be.
I hate his policies but it wasn't the hanging. He tried to talk Trump out of attempting to hang onto power multiple times before Jan 6th. Pence believes in the constitutional rules. I think this is why he's posting this now. Too bad he didn't figure it out earlier in dumps 1st term.
I don't agree with his policies either, but I also agree with you. Too bad he didn't have a stronger voice earlier to convince his fellow Republicans that Trump is out of control. Maybe he would have gotten more support for his bid at running for President.
He had four freaking years to honestly tell us how scared he, his wife, and daughter were on January 6th, but for whatever reason, tried to put on a stoic front. He's preaching to the fly on his head...
pence warned trump a few days ago that his stance on Ukraine may lead to a Russian invasion of a nato country and result in a war involving US troops ..Newsweek Feb 12 by Sophie Clark .. as for his article reposting I’d say no time like the present to remind all elected officials of their duty to 🇺🇸
As if he didn’t also do too many things to list to destroy every bit of good will we had globally, in the name of “America First” that makes us prime targets for terrorist attacks from just about anywhere.
I like how we’re all pretending Trump isn’t aware and fully in alliance with Putin for the last decade. Canada is preparing as well, which their citizens are aware of but we of course are not. And Trump making is abundantly clear he could give two shits about NATO and therefore, any of us.
Interesting that Pence may be getting ready to speak out. I would welcome it. I don’t agree with him on a lot, but I really admire the fact that he didn’t cave
I hate the fact that looking back Mike Pence would have been less of a shit show than Trump. As a Hoosier, I hate the guy with the fire of 1,000 suns, he is a proper fucker, he would have done horrible things for sure, but he would not have pissed on the Constitution.
Don't get me wrong he did horrible things in Indiana, especially around women and the LGBTQIA community. But he was one of those odd conservatives that held the Constitution almost as sacred. It was a very bizarre dynamic to watch.
It pretty hard to believe the person who wrote those words was willing to support Trump for personal political gain and to undo a SCOTUS precedent of protecting women’s right to privacy and bodily autonomy.
Pence was put in his position by the anti abortion lobby, the anti north control lobby and the anti stem cell research lobby. The changes at the Supreme court ticked all those boxes and to he'll with the rest of the country he got his job done .
I don’t think all of this is happening because of greed.
I think the man sitting in the Oval, (not Elon Musk),learned from one of the better teachers of manipulation:
Roy Cohn.
If you listen to podcasts, "Behind the Bastards" with Robert Evans, has a great expose on Roy Cohn.
A real bastard if their even was one and proof positive that karma will find your ass.
This is all well and good but Pence spent the better part of 4 years, fully supporting trump in everything he was doing. The only time he finally stood up was certifying the 2020 election. He didn't even do that willingly, as he consulted many about his 'options.'
and then he made a decision which saved our country.
You don't have to like the guy. He's extending a branch once more to those who are wise enough to appreciate we aren't going to get this done by ourselves.
For what it’s worth, it’s accurate. I never liked Pence, because he too is guilty of following a corrupt administration. However, when it came time to stand his ground and obey the Constitution, he did.
When was this written? It doesn't matter though. Either he was in denial then or now. Is this the general consensus of Republicans? If so, it may explain why there hasn't been any objection to Trum,**.
To be fair, he couldn’t KNOW that DJT was going to go full dictator and bring in his hatchet man. When we know better, we do better. Let him gave this small thing.
MANY mental health and cult experts knew and tried to warn us. The project 2025 document was available to the public for about a year before the election.
I think he knew full well that the threats to our democracy were real and imminent.
As a former vice president, party leader, and public figure with a platform, Pence had a unique responsibility to inform and warn the public. He took an oath to support and defend our constitution. That oath is a lifetime obligation. Pence had a duty to warn.
Almost all the people that voted for him “didn’t know” or “don’t think he will really do that.” They FAFO’ed. There is no excuse, they were warned and didn’t listen or don’t listen.
Exactly. My german grandparents also thought stuffing 1000s humans in kettlewagons meant , they took them to travel to „some place“, right?
The rumors were too crazy to believe, right?
Same e€€ing thing. I wish i could make them see!
Media channels MUST play holocaust docus 24-7
I watch WWII documentaries almost every day on YouTube.
Sometimes, I wish I didn't have such a good grasp of what happened in Germany in the 20s, 30s, and 40s. The easily recognizable parallels to today haunt me.
Redemption is hard, hard to achieve universal acceptance. I'm not sure I can see a path to his redemption for my feelings though he could start by gaining redemption from the likes of Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger.
Pence is no friend. This is just performative nonsense from him. But he was complicit and a willing participant in all this bullshit. Made one good decision mostly because he was a coward but that’s about it
Exactly I was just talking about this earlier to somebody shuffling through the whys of somebody taking part in this and it’s very simple. Look what just happened with the January 6 insurrectionists . Immunity from killing people is going to make anybody want to join their cult.
SO he felt the need to write that about a legally, democratically elected president and now he's trying to scribble out Obama and replace it with TRUMP while giving us all the dreamworks eyebrow
Well I think I would rather have a steady, quiet Pence than an ignorant, lying JD Vance. I don't think Vance is going to honor the Constitution like Pence did in the end.
Too late Mikey. Much of this is your own effing fault for losing your spine and your balls while cowering voiceless in the corner 2015-2024. Where the effing Hell were you when this country needed balls and spine?
This is true, but regardless, his speaking out now helps potentially build momentum among former Patriotic Trump voters who are against the coup. If they can come to their senses they should be encouraged to do so.
Oh. Absolutely. TODAY those Trump voters need to harass their Sens (especially, but too late for confirmations) & Reps. Harass them relentlessly to stop supporting Trump lest they get voted out 2026. I fear 2026 is too far off considering damage to be done. Takes to long 2 grow balls & spines.
This. It doesn’t matter when, how, or why someone comes around but should be embraced either way. That’s the only way to get through to those brainwash people. If we keep punishing people, they will never come around.
I can’t agree more!! Once they come around (though I believe there are plenty who won’t) we have to help with the deprogramming. Then we have to educate them.
It’s going to be a long road. But honestly, I don’t see him remaining in office very long.
The hard core Magas who attended the rallies were never much interested in freedom, they liked belonging to a cult or movement. Don’t bother with them, it’s the vast majority of Trump supporters/voters who need to wake up now. They all had different reasons.
He very prettily articulates the principle that is our government's defining characteristic and our country's entire reason for being. But when he had the power to prevent the threat to this foundational principle that we now face, he refused.
He had been thinking that. He was pardoned by Biden because Trump and his followers were upset that he certified the election in Biden’s favor because that is what democracy called for
Did you know for the first time in our election’s history there was not one Red county that flipped Blue?? Even when Ronald Reagan won in 1984, 30 Red counties that flipped to Blue.
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That was the national underground movement driven by the New Apostolic Reformation Church organization that led people to vote for an "imperfect tool", that would give them the power to entrench their faith in the public school system, and indoctrinate all children to their belief system.
It was completely rigged, he said in October, people don't need to worry about him getting enough votes, he started cancelling campaign dates etc, and he thanked Musk in his speech for his satellites etc after he 'won'.
Yea, trump was completely blatant about it, and still people like @ronfilipkowski.bsky.social @meidastouch.com @democracydocket.com are still acting like it was a free and fair election. 💔
Zero changed to blue, but 88 counties moved to red this election. #VerifyTheVote #Election #TruthMatters
Or, did Musk ‘arrange’ the challenges to Democratic voters to be challenged, and then their provisional ballots were never counted. Amazing how that worked out! 😒
Well great...I wish he could have showed more spine during the 4 YEARS he was in office, rather than just the week or so leading up to Jan. 6. He knew how it should be, but did nothing to try to make it so.
Pence helped enable this monster by excusing and explaining away Trump's crimes, even as Trump celebrated Pence's attempted murder from the rabid mob. Instead of standing up like other republicans, such as Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger.
Yep. 2010, he was attacking Obama for "overreaching" and "desiring to level the playing field." I wonder if that was running through his mind when the J-6ers were chasing him down wanting to hang him?
Where was silent mike when we needed him?
I’ll give him January 6th, but the other 1400+ days he let fatboy run rings around our laws and our country kinda cancel it out.
Indeed she didn’t! I was impressed because if I was ever near someone who tried that with my husband - it would have been a very hot mess!! Secret Service would definitely have been hauling me away!!
And I haven’t been married for quite a while!!
But - Pence could have gone along with breaking the law, which tRump was pressuring him very hard to do. But he didn’t. I give him at least a little respect for that. His adherence to the law nearly got him hung.
ONLY after he exhausted every possible search for plausible deniability. So, your respect is given for him not wanting to go to jail. It takes more to earn my respect.
He was in an incredibly threatening situation, and he still upheld the law. Perhaps he did it to avoid prosecution, but maybe not. Prosecution for Jan 6 didn’t reach tRump; would it have reached Pence? I certainly don’t admire him, but I’m thankful he stood up for the law when it was most crucial.
And, in hindsight, it would have been better had he gone along and forced the Constitutional crisis then. Both he and Mango Mussolini would most likely be behind bars right now.
It’s nice that he has found the remnants of his backbone now, but he was the primary enabler of this for 4 years.
He only really changed his mind when blatant theft of an election was the option and his friend organised a lynch mob to come and murder him
Just like Mitch McConnell, it’s too late, Mike, to have any effect on what you have wrought with your subservience to Trump to support your ambition and secure your own power. (Which by the way failed, big time.)
Mitch can eat shit. This guy, while you’re correct, didn’t cave when it mattered the most and was actually at the most risk, to career and to his life. He and Chaney did the right thing and lost everything for it. And now that he’s let the crazies out, are standing by it when they’d be safer not to.
U.S. citizens spend millions (billions?) of dollars on superhero movies every year. Name anyone in the last 100 years who had a more impactful real-life superhero day than Mike F’ng Pence on 1/6.
Only one day he did the right thing (after consulting with lawyers about whether he could get away with doing Trump’s bidding). He was washed up before Trump plucked him from obscurity to be his VP. He spent 4 years publicly and nauseatingly sucking up to a man he knew to be an amoral liar.
Pence speaks up - with a little voice- and much too late. He had ample time in his 4 years as vice president and after J6 to speak up. Then it might have made a difference. Instead, for 4 years he just stood there looking at trump with an expression as if he saw Jesus
Pence may just be a principled conservative. Despite the homophobia, crazy Christian cultism and AID's deaths, Pence has remained true to the Constitution and his (however misplaced) values.
I hear you, but Mike Pence wouldn’t make a pimple on John McCain’s behind. McCain demonstrated courage in every moment that required it, in real time. Pence kissed Trump’s rump relentlessly, except for one time for one ceremonial duty.
Without disagreeing with the majority of your argument; that one time Pence did disobey Trump was done pretty bravely given credible and direct threats to his life.
Some protest votes involve jilling off to express disappointment in the Dems. Back in 2008, my protest vote involved voting for McCain. I'd had it past up to here (head height) with women waiting our turn and becoming super-qualified, only to get tossed aside for a newer, shinier option. So, yeah.
I never voted for McCain, never agreed with his conservative politics, & I don’t protest vote. But I admired the valor he showed as a POW. Sacrifice like that is unforgettable. Mike Pence certainly doesn’t compare.
Pence only found his spine after talking to folks like Dan Quayle and Michael Luttig so don't give him too much credit for doing the obvious duty.
In fact, I believe that had not Quayle, Luttig and others told him that he couldn't, he would've.
I also have a statement: We The People of these United States are getting sick & tired of the zero sum games, lawlessness & brazen unconstitutional acts perpetrated against us. A line has been crossed. At no point will we take the knee, kiss the ring or give allegiance to traitors of our democracy
Hahaha..wake up! The majority of “We the people” either doesn’t care or is too stupid/uneducated to react on what is happening. You have sold with the last election your freedom and democratic system. Your ruler is also threatening former friends and allies and tries to tell them what to do.
I am not clapping back at a person. It is “We the people” and believe me - outside of our left or liberal bubble absolutely NOBODY is awake. I spoke to so many people the last two weeks and they all had no clue what is going on. And they didn’t care (which is the main concern)
There were only 75,017,613 US citizens which actively voted against Donald Trump. Everyone else was uneducated, blind, lazy or full of hate and nothing has changed since then.
That's right!! We've had enough of your foolish behavior and unsafe decisions against us. You're being sued for so many of your EOs and unconstitutional decisions that I can't even to list them. And more resignations of good, hardworking people of integrity who refuse to do your bidding. STFU
He is 1000% correct! He's sending the nation a message. And thousands of us are listening.... the Resistance is growing!!
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When I see the "we command him" argument, I always think of the UK MPs who didn't oppose Brexit, because their constituents had voted Leave. They harmed our country. Democracy is a conversation, or it is nothing. We elect people to lead, to advise, to examine evidence in detail. Not to blindly obey.
After seeing Democrats’ lack of response or initiative or interest in using their power to defend the people who put them in office…I kind of feel Mike Pence may have shown more bravery than most in America today.
Have you read the article in full? It's fascinating. I believe it must have been written in rebuke to Obama's use of Executive Orders but him reposting it now is literally the first Republican voice saying the Constitution is being violated by the current admin https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/the-presidency-and-the-constitution/
No doubt. I don’t think he’s evil or a bad human being like Trump; but he suffers from religious hypocrisy and he is a weak man or he would have stood up more to Trump.
I cannot understanding why the non-MAGA GOP go along with this. Everyday, they give up more and more of their power. He’s making them superfluous. I get there might be some fear, but there is safety in numbers. Make a stand. Before there is nothing left to stand for. Unless they are all compromised.
The ones that are going out will say no because they have nothing to lose. It’s the ones that are still in. They don’t have the balls to say no then we lose!
While I agree it’s easy to say NOW that he’s out of office, I’m willing to give a bit of grace that at least he’s saying it. Yes it would have been helpful earlier. But if there are folks out there looking to him then maybe it would change a mind.
Ok. And that’s fine. I feel like I could at least applaud the fact he is saying it now. I’d personally like to welcome folks if they want to get rid of Trump and Co.
Too little too late for this dude he should have stood up when he had a chance when they were having hearings in which Trump ordered his death so there's that... hell awaits..
I think he knew all along that the felon was wanting to be a dictator and I’m proud of him for refusing to do what he asked, which was illegal anyway, but I think if he had certified and done what felon wanted he would’ve been in the White House long before now and this would’ve been much worse!
Sometimes people are so unknown to themselves that it takes a consistent and painful drip of truth to finally eat though the blindness and wake them
up. So, maybe Pence didn’t even know what he really deeply believed until recently. Maybe he had a revelation he wasn’t expecting, to be good.
Or, he’s furious that Trump sent a mob to kill him, among other things, and then realized the GOP wanted nothing to do with him. It’s never gonna be his turn to be president. If he thought that could ever happen, he would continue to enable Trump as he did all during Trump’s presidency.
Yes, there is always that option, more probable than mine actually. I’m just a little bit of a cockeyed optimist, even when it seems unlikely. I think it would be nice if he had an epiphany and changed his life. But, no, probably not.
While I greatly appreciate and applaud Mike Pence for upholding the Constitution on Jan 6th, he didn’t go far enough- he could’ve explained PUBLICLY, how Trump worked with Putin and how Republican representatives allowed the rioters into the Capitol the day before
Source?
Where did he enable him, exactly?
Do we have any speech of him supporting trump?
If anything, he was the quietest vp in history. On day one from the moment at Hamilton, he has stood in quiet opposition of him and adhered strictly to the rule of law.
Well, the only thing Trump got right during his first term is that Pence should have been hanged.
He left out the part where he should have been hanged alongside Pence, but still...
This is actually quite amazing! Not just because Pence has a spine, but because he can hopefully inspire others in his party to find theirs. May the drop of ink in the water spread like wild fire. 🔥
I’m thinking of those that aren’t die hard maga, which I agree are too far gone. But there are some (some I know) that I’m hoping this resonates with. I’m likely fooling myself but I have to hope.
Let’s not forget what he did on Jan 6th. I’m not a Pence fan. But I’m going to welcome & encourage all voices in opposition to Trump & the destruction of our Democracy wherever it comes from bc that’s how resistance spreads & reclaiming our Democracy is more important than always being right.
I hear what you are saying, but isn't this the same group who wanted to hang him? Then, at every opportunity, chastised him for years. I doubt they are open to what he has to say.
Those are the die hard maga assholes. And they are too far gone. But there are some that this might resonate with, including those who are starting to regret their votes.
"he can hopefully inspire others"
You do remember he ran for president in 2024, right?
You may not remember, because he suspended his campaign in September... of 2023.
Oh sure. .. he finally grows a spine when it's WAY too fucking late. We must ALWAYS hold him, McConnell and McCarthy accountable for their cowardice and responsible for the destruction of our country. This could have been avoided if any of them had fucking balls.
That assumes the majority of the cabinet would have supported that. I doubt they would have. That said, Pence had a spine on January 6th too. I may not agree with him on much but I’ll give credit where it’s due.
He has a spine like Mitch McConnell has a spine... when they feel a tinge of guilt or concern... but typically, it lasts all of 3 mins, and their greed and hunger for power takes back control of their bodily function. They are both powerless now so their statements are merely performative.
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Mitch put us in this position. He thought the courts would take care of tRump! Courts moving too slow, along with everything possible to get the F’er elected again! Insanity
Pence called Al Gore to see if he actually had to be there during the counting of the votes and was told yes.
If he had a spine he would tried along with GOP to stop Trump during his presidency.
Agree with that. I may think the man is a Christian nutjob and maybe under the right circumstances a fascist, but under this particular set of circumstances where he was nearly murdered by a mob supporting his boss, he did the right thing.
I do agree with your statement our current state of mind and first reaction is to quite blame him for stay silent but let’s use this to our advantage We are in serious threat to loose our democracy If anyone has a chance read SubStack @glennkirschner.bsky.social
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This is a battle for the soul of the US against a powerful enemy. We MUST win!
There will be time for our valid disagreements with MAGA, but that time is AFTER we've averted annihilation.
He could’ve made all the difference in the world if he had gone through with the impeachment, but he did not. Once in a while, he gets up a little bit of nerve and says something and then he retreats back to his shell.
Musk is the wrecking ball right now while Trump is just a puppet.
'Lord of the Flies is Swatting' is only possible if Mother has passed away.
Unrelated but I’ve seen a few articles stating that seated republicans were being coerced from “outside sources” to fall in line for all cabinet nominees.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66065550
👉 to take the gloves off
👉 to become smarter and faster than they are
I hate the feeling of always being one steo behind. Let us do what we can to avoid that. And use the one big advantage we have:
👉 Protest. Take it to the streets. Maybe we are only few now buy we will grow ...
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He's part of the problem. Pense SERVED and IMPLEMENTED the whims of a dangerous man until ONE DAY, for a minute or two, he did the right thing.
Pence's continued opposition to Trump, while not as forceful nor as impassioned as many would prefer, is still better than all of the rolling over for him all the other Rs are doing.
But that's not saying much.
there but they are not going to listen to or follow democrats, leftists or woke. However republicans that speak up and say the things they are thinking might listen.
Hitler 1929: The authority of the Führer is not limited by laws or statutes." He’s gone full Hitler !
#TheResistance
However I find him spineless for not publicly speaking out afterwards .
I put him in the boat with all other GOP leaders who have done nothing but enabled Cheeto
Of course the VP cannot stop that. It's a formality. That he asked Dan Quayle if he could was just dumb.
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2025/02/ftc-chairman-ferguson-announces-new-policy-regarding-american-bar-association
‘The president is not our teacher, our tutor, our guide or ruler. He does not command us; we command him. We serve neither him nor his vision. It is not his job or his prerogative to redefine custom, law, and beliefs; to appropriate industries; to seize the country,as it…
‘…as it were, by the shoulders or by the throat so as to impose by force of theatrical charisma his justice upon 300 million others. It is neither his job nor his prerogative to shift the power of decision away from them, and to him and the acolytes of his choosing.’
And didn't he put judgement on aids patients.
He wasn't any of this either.
That he says above but he tried to be.
So a little late for me.
Once doesn't do much.
You stand up and post, publish etc to help fight back.
🤔🤐
3 years and 11 months.
Well done.
In any event Pence's refusal to endorse Trump said enough to influence anyone who might have been inclined to listen to him.
I think the man sitting in the Oval, (not Elon Musk),learned from one of the better teachers of manipulation:
Roy Cohn.
Some of it has to be blackmail.
A real bastard if their even was one and proof positive that karma will find your ass.
What do you stand for? Stand for something!
You don't have to like the guy. He's extending a branch once more to those who are wise enough to appreciate we aren't going to get this done by ourselves.
Re: It takes a village🔥
I think he knew full well that the threats to our democracy were real and imminent.
Maybe it's because he's theoretically a GOP "leader" with at least some credibility among MAGA reTHUGlican domestic terrorists.
The rumors were too crazy to believe, right?
Same e€€ing thing. I wish i could make them see!
Media channels MUST play holocaust docus 24-7
Sometimes, I wish I didn't have such a good grasp of what happened in Germany in the 20s, 30s, and 40s. The easily recognizable parallels to today haunt me.
But does that mean he’s not allowed to be vocal now?
If they wait to speak up until Trump’s policies begin to hurt them or cross their personal boundaries of “too much” should we still reject them?
I think willingness to leaving the GOP is an excellent starting point. I’d add actually getting out and voting, even if disillusioned.
https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/the-presidency-and-the-constitution/
Complicit twat!
https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/the-presidency-and-the-constitution/
SO he felt the need to write that about a legally, democratically elected president and now he's trying to scribble out Obama and replace it with TRUMP while giving us all the dreamworks eyebrow
Fuck Mike Pence.
It’s going to be a long road. But honestly, I don’t see him remaining in office very long.
He very prettily articulates the principle that is our government's defining characteristic and our country's entire reason for being. But when he had the power to prevent the threat to this foundational principle that we now face, he refused.
In sum: again, FUCK Mike Pence.
The rest of the 4 years he just stared at Trump like he wanted to fuck him.
In other news: Trump just said nothing's illegal to save the country.
Have at it American heros!
If you have a "special set of skills" use them.
Godspeed.
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Way too go
Still don’t Like you
Hey Don,
You work for us! Stop breaking the laws of the land!!!!!
https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/the-presidency-and-the-constitution/
https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/the-presidency-and-the-constitution/
I’ll give him January 6th, but the other 1400+ days he let fatboy run rings around our laws and our country kinda cancel it out.
And I haven’t been married for quite a while!!
He only spoke up when affected directly, he was asked to break the law, and only after exhausting any and all possible legal loopholes to comply.
And, in hindsight, it would have been better had he gone along and forced the Constitutional crisis then. Both he and Mango Mussolini would most likely be behind bars right now.
He only really changed his mind when blatant theft of an election was the option and his friend organised a lynch mob to come and murder him
Not a hero, but not the enemy. Like McCain.
In fact, I believe that had not Quayle, Luttig and others told him that he couldn't, he would've.
You're clapping back at the wrong person.
Dump Trump et al
Destroying America like no other- Impeach - Arrest
25th Amendment
Rise up & call
202-224-3121
💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
WE ARE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!
"ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL"
🦋
Indivisible, with liberty
and justice for All.
There fixed it🙂
1)LeadingProtests2SAVE CFPB!CivilSvc!EDU!Energy!Treasury!
2)FightingTrump'sOVERREACH, IN COURT
3)SHOUTNG THR LUNGS OUT2confrontMusk/DOGE
4)Having TOWN HALLS W/CONSTITUENTS
5)@Thr DAMN DayJobs,In Committee,BLASTING th GOP4 GIVING UP THR OWN POWRS2 appease Trump'n'DOGE
Buzz Dupp.
But they are and were too privileged to see it.
up. So, maybe Pence didn’t even know what he really deeply believed until recently. Maybe he had a revelation he wasn’t expecting, to be good.
Where did he enable him, exactly?
Do we have any speech of him supporting trump?
If anything, he was the quietest vp in history. On day one from the moment at Hamilton, he has stood in quiet opposition of him and adhered strictly to the rule of law.
He left out the part where he should have been hanged alongside Pence, but still...
MAGA is a cult.
You do remember he ran for president in 2024, right?
You may not remember, because he suspended his campaign in September... of 2023.
It is just impeachment but with an even higher bar
Mitch put us in this position. He thought the courts would take care of tRump! Courts moving too slow, along with everything possible to get the F’er elected again! Insanity
If he had a spine he would tried along with GOP to stop Trump during his presidency.
Karen has bigger balls than he does. The man is a disgrace.
Removing Trump for "Trance" doesn't get us much. It needs to be more than that. What short of a new election gets us started sorting shit out?
Dump Trump et al
Destroying America like no other- Impeach - Arrest
25th Amendment
Rise up & call
202-224-3121
💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
We need to stop misinformation
republicans created rump
If he has principles, he would have pushed for impeachment the first time.
4 years empowering just this behavior.