And TONS of children's shows these days depict graphic anal sex. Totally.
It's a real thing. It really happens, ever. Totally.
So it's an exactly apt comparison to make.
Totally.
CURSÉD KNOWLEDGE: there was a time on 4chan when Cheese Pizza was a coded reference to Child P*rn. Most of it was joking, but I am sure it contributed to the pizzagate incident and if it is still an actual MAGA brainworm, I wouldn't be surprised.
I first learned about this back when I was hate-watching the Sinfest Reddit, and that vile pig Tatzi was using it to slander anyone/everyone to the left of Agent Krasnov.
No no, I think it exemplifies the issue that Dad was being weird for hating on a generic pronoun that most people might not even notice in regular conversation, which may not even be related to gender identity in that cartoon since it's just a catch all word used to identify someone else.
It is SO absurd to hate the They that wiser folk will instinctively latch onto the assumption that he hates something ELSE to try and derive the world where his rage is least nonsensical.
How can I explain to my child that certain things exist which aren’t a threat and are just kinda the way things are? My baby is going to reply with things like “okay” and “ah, gotcha”
my dad had a problem with trick or treating- thought it was “begging”. obviously the way this manifested was him going into a screaming rage at 6pm on 31st October and making us cry, then going off to sulk while my mum took us out. productive!
(this sounds like I am wailing about an abusive childhood but my dad was mostly cool and chill he just kind of sucked at conflict resolution and picked some weird hills to die on)
Oh fun, he'd get along with the people who write letters every few years complaining about "the poor children" coming to their rich neighborhood to trick-or-treat.
oh when he was a kid he was one of them! he used to tell us about the rich neighbourhoods, where you’d get a couple of pence, vs his area, where you’d get a glass of something good
I like how, unless you're tuned in to the brainworms, it is indiscernable what the supposed grievance here is. I looked at the cartoon multiple times for a little rainbow or something, before I realized it was "they"
The people who get angry at pronouns are gonna have to unlearn a lot of their vocabulary or just stop talking, because pronouns are part of daily conversation.
It’d be better if they stopped talking entirely tbh. 🤷
What the child had in fact, not been aware of, is that Spot was a convicted felon who was wanted in 23 countries for various acts of tax fraud, arson, larceny, and most egregiously, eating pineapple with their pizza
Semi related I got into a fucking argument with someone who compared the kiss in the owl house with the "I can't believe it's not See Pee" scenes from koboyashi's dragon maid.
Bc apparently a straight kiss between kids never happened otherwise it'd be a double standar- OOPS
English is not my mother language and it takes some time for me to really understand "They/Them". I learned at school that it was the plural for "He/Her" and yeah, I found it a bit confusing... I would prefer "It", but it's really pejorative. ^^"
But now I know what its mean and it's cool!
It's definitely not how they TEACH English, but you might find it interesting that it's been in colloquial English for ages! Jane Austen used the singular they! The pushback only happened when the gender neutral part became an affirmative choice.
It was accepted almost universally, except by the most obnoxious pedants, as a gender neutral singular pronoun if you didn't know who you were talking about ("someone lost THEIR hat at the park, let's give it to lost and found"), but people CHOOSING not to be identified by gender is the issue.
I don't understand what you're pointing... As I said, I learned as a non english native that "They/Them" was the plural for "he/her". As a non english speaker, I didn't know that it was used before. Now (and it been 10y now) I know that "They/Them" is the neutral pronom.
Oh I'm just a language dork and I'm interested both in how the singular "they/them" evolved and the social reactions to it! Sorry, that was probably just a niche interest babble. I get excited about language evolution lol
I see you didn't read all the discussion. ^^"
And sorry if the school lessons were so wrong between 20 and 30 years ago in non english speaking countries.
Ah, I just saw that... I just say that I learned They/Them is a plural form, did you really stating that They/Them isn't a plural form?
They (all my teachers) just didn't taught me the others usages of these words, that's all. And I was confronted in this usage only about 10y ago.
Maybe really old, but no, I wasn't confronted to this usage so long ago and no, it's not in my olds lessons books, so no I didn't learned it when I started english.
Yeah, "it" is reserved for inanimate objects that don't have a gender.
And "you" always used to be plural too, which is why it always takes plural verbs ("you are" rather than "you is"). "They" isn't doing anything unprecedented.
Said like this it sounds really easy and I feel ashamed. ^^"
I didn't point the "novelty" of "They/Them" just that it was a new way to use a word that I learned differently, that's all.
Now (and since almost 10y) everything is fine, and in case I don't know the gender, I will use "They/Them". ^^
Nothing to be ashamed about. Languages are complex and illogical things that no-one knows completely.
I can certainly see how someone learning English would think "it" is the obvious word for a singular ungendered pronoun, without realizing how much is packed into that.
To any who go nuts about explaining confusing things to kids, they can start be explaining cocomelon. That crap is a lot more unsettling than a gay couple ever could be.
I feel like this excellently captures how universal it is for an abuser to shroud abuse as a reaction to a scapegoat. From MKUltra to lynchings, the hegemon always precedes under the pretense of revenge/retaliation, however disproportionate the response truly is.
I had a similar reaction one time while my niece and nephew were watching Spidey and His Amazing Friends. Green Goblin was flying around on his glider and Spider-Man was like "We need to find a way up to him."
What do you mean you need to find a way up to him?!? You're Spider-Man!!!😡😡😡😡😡
"Dad was such a drag. Every day he would just start throwing all the "woke" food into the bin, tear off all the "woke" clothes, sit in front of and complained about the same "woke" games. Yeah, he was just that kind of guy."
I think a more Miyazaki approach would be for the potato guy to end up in a generative AI dimension where everything is shiny and new but also fake and deteriorating, sociopathic techlords mess with people's memories, etc
This is not too far from the 80s/90s Satanic Panic. Same kind of line of thought with cartoons "sending messages to confuse and indoctrinate our children", except they no longer use the terms "humanist" or "new age" anymore.
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It's a real thing. It really happens, ever. Totally.
So it's an exactly apt comparison to make.
Totally.
damn they're beyond salvation or any fix that allow any thinking
Not getting the "joke" is how you can tell you're normal.
Took me three reads to figure it out.
It is SO absurd to hate the They that wiser folk will instinctively latch onto the assumption that he hates something ELSE to try and derive the world where his rage is least nonsensical.
Just goes to show how bizarre the whole anti-they thing is.
I also thought that made the joke funnier.
(Five minutes later...)
"America must protect HERself against the eeevil immigrants (he/him)!"
🤷🏻
It’d be better if they stopped talking entirely tbh. 🤷
It damaged me in an unforeseen way
I now regularly commit the "Sin of Empathy"!
“Those who scream “think of the children” the loudest
Usually hurt more children then help them”
At this point if someone in power says that I just think "he committed a very serious crime."
Every accusation is an confession
Bc apparently a straight kiss between kids never happened otherwise it'd be a double standar- OOPS
But now I know what its mean and it's cool!
we often use “they” when we don’t know gender and/or someone is theoretical eg
“the applicant should… if they…”
some people always insert “he or she” instead but “they” is extremely common even among people who think gender is binary
And sorry if the school lessons were so wrong between 20 and 30 years ago in non english speaking countries.
They (all my teachers) just didn't taught me the others usages of these words, that's all. And I was confronted in this usage only about 10y ago.
And "you" always used to be plural too, which is why it always takes plural verbs ("you are" rather than "you is"). "They" isn't doing anything unprecedented.
I didn't point the "novelty" of "They/Them" just that it was a new way to use a word that I learned differently, that's all.
Now (and since almost 10y) everything is fine, and in case I don't know the gender, I will use "They/Them". ^^
I can certainly see how someone learning English would think "it" is the obvious word for a singular ungendered pronoun, without realizing how much is packed into that.
What do you mean you need to find a way up to him?!? You're Spider-Man!!!😡😡😡😡😡
Winston Peters.
I wonder if he realizes said 'woke' is why he's even able to be a politician.