Folks (and this thing has gone around quickly), it's still unclear *what* has been "deleted"; as many of you have noted DirectFile remains active. Part of the danger of Government-By-Unelected-Nutball is that what's actually *true* is a moving target.
Thank you for sharing this. It's comforting to know that at least some of what's being done right now is hot air designed to confuse and muddy the water.
🌵🍑😖😣😧
I'm still giggling thinking of different cacti, like those below.
The first three are there because they look really painful. The last one's there just because it looks weird and like something Musk might put up his butt.
It is, for some taxpayers anyhow. But even for the ones that qualify (I think its like 1/3) they hide it and shove the pay version down your throat, so many end up choosing the pay version anyway.
Because Direct file is a threat to the Intuit Tax which requires that filing tax returns is deliberately kept inconvenient to encourage people to use TurboTax. Intuit & H&R Block lobbied to get a law passed prohibiting making filing tax returns easier.
FFS my last employer's payroll service provider gave out W-2 info in a proprietary Intuit format & scrambled the PDF copy of the W-2 to prevent employees from cutting & pasting numbers onto their tax forms. Intuit is so f-ing evil, Satan is afraid of selling his soul to it.
Because he was taught by word and consequence that he’s allowed to do whatever he wants for whatever reasons he wants and it’s an act of entitled genius.
because turbo tax and h&r block lobby the government to keep taxes complicated so people rely on their services. Directfile was a result of politicians moving forward with making taxes easier anyways, but now the government is accepting the money again
The only reason it took so long to get Direct File in place is that HR Block & Intuit & that ilk lobbied to make it explicitly illegal for the IRS to implement a simple, free direct-filing software.
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Right now the director is William J. Burns, appointed by Biden. They've been known to clean up a lot of messes and hide a lot of evidence of it historically. Today is the day that they need to get back into that business.
That’s my question too.
Last year I had my refund three days after I filed. I keep going on line to the where’s my refund ? Page looking for any information and it says they don’t have any. Now I’m getting worried.
This Is A Christian Nationalist movement. We are experiencing a systemic takeover through policy, bureaucracy, & legal means rather than force. Thats reshaping our government to then reshape American culture. Goal= Christian version of Saudi Arabia.
I’m not someone who puts much stock in an afterlife and certainly not one where you are rewarded or punished for your deeds on earth but seems to me the fear of eternal damnation might come in handy when dealing with evil self absorbed sociopaths.
Wasn’t this part of the initial proposal for the 2018 GOP tax cuts too, or am I remembering that wrong? It saves the government money because they don’t have to go through and fix errors created by third party software. And you don’t have to use it if you don’t want to.
The ONLY thing that matters to President Trump's DOJ & FBI is whether a crime was committed. The evidence is in that certain Regressive Leftists "have committed acts that appear to violate the law in targeting DOGE employees" per the evidence. Indictments soon. Trump is immune. Presidential Immunity
I’m holding off on taxes and will question my tax preparer about security.
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All that bullshit about the “Biden IRS” and a rogue agent (Musk) attacking software??
In case it was not clear, the new admin cares not a whit about the price of eggs or what average ppl pay for things. They are trying to reduce all govt so that they can take it around a shadowy corner and smother it w a grocery bag
Doctoring and expungement of documents are primary motives for this illegal intrusion of individuals with no accountability into these government filing systems. Hope there are backups that they cannot reach.
When they feel they shouldn’t have to pay taxes they are going to start removing the place that makes them pay taxes. I get that this didn’t have any effect in their taxes but it’s a foot in the door most Americans will be ok with
I mean, it does have a meaning. That some people confuse it with “being popular” is on them. It’s better to correct those people than give up on useful concepts.
Exactly, always found it ironic to call a movement controlled by the wealthiest oligarchs “populism”. When the vast majority of the public want higher taxes on the rich.
Where is the f'ing Congress?
They hold the purse strings.
They approve the creation of Gov't agencies
They outline the mission & authority of those agencies.
They fund those agencies to do that job.
Most important, the Confirm the dept heads!
Where the Fuck is Congress!
This should be in every local news outlet in the nation today, with very simple messaging. Billionaire Republicans support billion dollar corporation, eliminates free tax filing option .
Given the delays in refunds last time Trump was president, because he kept trying to "hurt" the IRS in various ways, changed the tax code last minute with the help of Congress, etc...
I wouldn't count on a refund anytime before August.
This is my theory too. He envisions our "entire financial life" taking place on X Money. I'm starting to suspect we'll see "X.gov" sooner rather than later.
Seeing as Trump was just talking today about using the "sovereign wealth fund" to buy tiktok and nationalize it, I suspect the same thing is gonna happen for Twitter, 100%
This is exactly what I thought when I heard he was taking treasury accounts. The oligarchy is happening and billionaires are dividing up the public spoils for privatization. Just like Russia. Elon was first in line.
His "acknowledged through X(dot)com" statement, like Trump with his masto fork "Truth" statements pretending to be somehow binding in the federal gov't legal framework...
They think they're kings because they made little online kingdoms where they can announce things with no law to impede them.
There's no whois record for https://x.gov yet; apparently any local, state, or tribal government could register the domain, would be a shame if someone were to squat on it (hint, hint, enterprising local, state, or tribal government IT department ...) https://get.gov/domains/eligibility/
Does anyone know where the new tariff dollars will be directed to? Did Elon take over Customs yet and have them sent directly to a private off-shore account?
I think it’s critical to highlight the implications of Musk. Not everyone understands a Coup or constitutional crisis. But they do understand popular programs eliminated with no warning or their ss number stolen. Make it real for people.
Trump's already admitted that: “He [Musk] knows those computers better than anybody. All those ... vote-counting computers. And we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide.”
After the election, he and Trump seemed so absolutely giddy with their ‘little secret’, that they could barely contain themselves from just blurting it out.
Every system Elon and his Youth have accessed or could have accessed is now suspect from a security point of view. Could be security backdoors, could be tweaked formulas to benefit someone. Everything must be checked and the person hours don't exist to do so.
Breaking the systems for assessing and collecting tax is one way of bringing down people's taxes. Something of a blunt instrument perhaps? Could provoke a backlash from, for instance, unpaid aerospace contractors?
So millions of citizens have to pay to use a commercial software or tax prep service to do exactly the same thing that could do online at the gov web app?
I bet some folks at Langley are talking about what to do about his seizure of classified information on USAID workers in the field, given there's almost certainly clandestine agents in that list
I’ll guess. Those who owe on their taxes don’t pay. Elmo says “oh, well, if that’s how it’s gonna be, I’ve got a 22 yo over here with your SSN and your bank routing # saved on a thumb drive, we’ll just go take it out ourselves”.
Because that's gonna shave down the deficit...This wouldn't be an issue if the rich would pay their taxes.
This is unsustainable. The middle class can not carry the burden.
You be filing via AI. You may even be privileged enough to pay for that AI which is geared to seek out all your data across services and correlate it with income declared as it checks if you’re making more income or claiming expenses that don’t make sense to its programming
Their egos are insane. These founding fathers on all of this money are burning in their graves…look at what your grandsons have done to your experiment…they’re blowing all the money on drugs, sex and murder… those apples didn’t fall far from that tree 🥴🤣
Don’t fuckin pay them. Then he has nothing to steal!! I refuse to let this puke hurt me!! He is going to be deported and his citizenship revoked,he’s a criminal he is stealing from the American people. I’m not paying shit until this guy is gone. Change your w2 to exempt. Few weeks no revenue! lol 😤
WTF? This is insane. He is completely out of control. He needs to be sectioned and put in a straightjacket in a locked psychiatric unit where he can go cold turkey.
That’s not what Elon said. He said he deleted the GSA’s 18F office. Whether he did or didn’t, who knows? Is it good or bad? Don’t know. But…he didn’t claim to eliminate Direct File.
He just created an entire class of people (citizens who were eligible to, and would have used this service) who now have standing to bring suit against him, a private citizen, for denial of service or something similar. I'm not a lawyer, but beg some actual lawyers to take this up.
I am questioning even if paying my taxes this year would really be worth it. I am thinking I might not until they "delete" un-elected President Musk. Call it my little protest against his coup.
That was our new direct file program. It was going to streamline filing and help low income folks avoid the tax preparer who charge fees. I am sad this in gone. It was a good program, that would save Taxpayer money
Unelected, unconfirmed Elon Musk is taking away everything that helps us, and the convicted felon, Trump, is allowing him to do it. Steve Bannon has always said the federal government should be purged and dismantled.
I just used it to do my taxes Yesterday and it’s fantastic so easy and streamlined. Of course for Fascists that’s a bad thing so it’s a threat to them 🙄😒
🙏🤞 It wasn't delivered today. Hopefully tomorrow. I'm not getting a large refund, but it'll be better than nothing. I don't want muskrats grimey hands on my money any longer than necessary.
No, it would save the LOW INCOME taxpayer money. It does nothing to benefit the rich. That (to the new regime) is patently UNFAIR. It's WOKE! It's discrimination against rich white people who inherited their privileges fair and square! Don't ask why; only stable geniuses can understand.
He can’t unilaterally decide to end a program that I assume required congressional approval to create and enact. Why can’t Musk and his team of hackers be physically removed? So many laws have been broken.
It’s still up
Elon is trolling, so ask yourself what’s today’s latest distraction?
He has no grounds to do any of this legally hes a citizen who needs to be the only one deported in the USA & I hope he gets arrested soon.
This is how it works in UK, in Australia. And presumably elsewhere. Simple & free. You Americans are being short-changed and exploited . Demand better. Stop voting for chaos.
I was clearly generalising about America as a whole. I’m delighted you don’t vote Republican & I apologise if you thought I meant you. But Trump got in … that is what I meant.
It’s astounding that “help people file their taxes correctly” which is widely seen by The People as a good thing that they want in the world is now cast as a radical act.
We appreciate your efforts. All of this wanton destruction of public good is heartbreaking and infuriating. Heaven forbid any of us do anything that isn't commercially monetized down to the last microsecond.
Because he wants us all in poverty to line his pockets. My God put him in front of me and I will slap the living shit out of that drug addicted freak before deporting HIM back to South Africa
To the contrary, you wanna file immediately before he screws up worse.
You cannot get your refund if you do not file.
If you owe money and do not file, the government will file for you and you will pay interest and penalties.
Why do you say that?
I am a retired IRS employee.
We get your W2s, your 1099s, et cetera.
If you have income, we wait. After a while, the computer calculates your taxes - making no assumptions in your favor so the result is typically the worst possible.
Then ....
...we send you a bill, which includes interest and penalties.
If payment is not timely, eventually you get another letter.
After a while, collections grabs something from your bank account.
If they file an extension, there are no penalties. I believe you can file 2 extensions if life throws you a loop. My question is, if there are no tax agents & and gutted workforce, won't collecting taxes be difficult?
My ex has never been scooped. The reality doesn’t work the way you think it does. IRS only goes after significant monies. It’s too expensivd to pay investigators over penny ante shit. So no, the law isn’t equitably enforced. Again, I would know, as I took my ex’s mail in for him.
Why would they send an auditor?
In most cases it is unnecessary - your bill is higher than you'd pay if you filed, so smart people will get the bill and file asap.
So far I’m able to sign in and start filing, so he’s probably just claiming that it’s shut down to deter people from using it at all. If we make a statement that it doesn’t work then people won’t even go verify for themselves.
No, it’s set up for people who fall into specific income brackets (125k individual, 200k filing jointly I believe, standard deduction, available in 25 states). You can file for free and still be due whatever refund you deserve. If you owe then you payout set up a payment plan.
Right but most people in those brackets are on payroll and most of those have already had most of their taxes withheld and, at this point, sent to the federal government. It's mostly too late not to pay taxes to the saboteurs.
This coup makes me want trustworthy bluesky acct(s) whose only job is to post latest tweets of WH, musk, & cabinet/oligs, so we can know without having to be on x or verify screenshots. I want to read their narrations in one safe place, as they happen, so I can act quickly. Thanks for any leads.
Their ultimate goal I feel has always been the IRS. The billionaire class really has most disdain for taxes. They will do everything to fuck it up. Normies might not care cause they hate taxes too. Though if tax returns are not processed and people don't get their money...
Normies have been made to hate taxes because it’s overly complicated and burdensome for working people. And much of the money goes into things that don’t benefit the common masses at all. Rather the opposite. Now the oligarchs are making this system even worse.
I hope none of you actually plan to pay taxes if this continues. Fill out a new W4, showing -0- or write in exempt. Bank, the amount you paid last year + 5 %. Pay when the coup crap stops.
It's a tax prep program that was funded by the US government that allowed you to file for free, similar to TurboTax but with no cost. You can still file your taxes, you just can't do so through the free program anymore.
We should be worried about how many of Trump's tax returns were deleted. As of today every database with personal info is covered by the Privacy Act and an info exchange. They have to post info telling people what they collect,.what they do with it,.who has access to the info and why.
Anyone with info on file (everyone) should go to the website for Treasury, Social Security and ask to see your own records. Ask who the info is shared with and the authority. There are civil and criminal liability for not following the rules .Every individual case is dealt with separately.
If you want to know what is happening with your data go to the website,.find a link for the compliance officer or send it to the office they list. Misuse of your info can lead to fraud charges. It applies to the govt as well as of outsiders. Everyone on soc security should check it out
Dems and supporters understand the big threat. Every grandmother,.vet,.someone with a disability is angry that their info may be transferred or misused. Flood members of Cong with concerns. The big stuff.will happen but Trump will use even a small demo as a propaganda win.
UPOTUS Muskrat has no legal authority (nor does VP Trump)to cut off any appropriated funding or payments sourced from our tax dollars. It is imperative we refuse to pay taxes until he is removed.
Preferably to South Africa or an island outside Earth
This just America’s thing in general. There are stages of the home buying process that exist solely so 3rd parties can take a little more money from someone who just spent YEARS of savings on a downpayment.
Stop filing your taxes.
Why should we deposit to Musk's shiny new checking account that belonged to Americans a few days ago?
Taxation w/out Representation is not okay.
Hit them in the pocketbook. It's the only way.
2025 Boston Tea Party starts now.
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If you RT'd my initial post, RT this as well.
Also, Go Birds!
I'm still giggling thinking of different cacti, like those below.
The first three are there because they look really painful. The last one's there just because it looks weird and like something Musk might put up his butt.
I always say, “…with a pineapple” but cactus works.
🤣
But sad too 🤦🏽♀️
If they don't arrest and deport him now!!!
but still fuck intuit lol.
They aren't privatizing it. They are eliminating it.
Naturally, Musk is a fan
https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-turbotax-20-year-fight-to-stop-americans-from-filing-their-taxes-for-free
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elon-musk-doge-tax-filing-app-intuit-h-r-block-stock/
Either way they have a union.
Please hold these monsters accountable!
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https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-government-young-engineers/
... and he's not. That $1b doesn't even really budge the needle.
Day long
Last year I had my refund three days after I filed. I keep going on line to the where’s my refund ? Page looking for any information and it says they don’t have any. Now I’m getting worried.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NcSil8NeQq8
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All that bullshit about the “Biden IRS” and a rogue agent (Musk) attacking software??
"yeah its populist, thats the job of a government, to be popular"
"yeah its authoritarian, governments need authority to do things"
https://directfile.irs.gov/
They hold the purse strings.
They approve the creation of Gov't agencies
They outline the mission & authority of those agencies.
They fund those agencies to do that job.
Most important, the Confirm the dept heads!
Where the Fuck is Congress!
https://directfile.irs.gov/
If Elon says no to refunds, who stops him? Seems no one at this rate.
I wouldn't count on a refund anytime before August.
They think they're kings because they made little online kingdoms where they can announce things with no law to impede them.
if we don't stop them, they are.
The people highest on their own supply are running this country like a 4Chan/8Kun/Reddit board moderated by some kid with a god complex.
This is straight up chaotic.
https://directfile.irs.gov/
Is this not the same thing?
I’ll guess. Those who owe on their taxes don’t pay. Elmo says “oh, well, if that’s how it’s gonna be, I’ve got a 22 yo over here with your SSN and your bank routing # saved on a thumb drive, we’ll just go take it out ourselves”.
That would get people in the streets.
"Most unintelligent billionaire I have ever encountered" -AOC.
This video summarizes what Musk is really. It starts around 20-23 min: https://www.youtube.com/live/e5zuqv5kpyI?si=4pMvA3UA_dFrLRUc
*chef's kiss*
This is unsustainable. The middle class can not carry the burden.
it is all about the money for their - already to much to spent in their lifetime - pockets.
#MuskIsANazi
For now
https://bsky.app/profile/birblib.bsky.social/post/3lhcfaw7cg22f
https://directfile.irs.gov/
https://directfile.irs.gov/
It’s still up
Elon is trolling, so ask yourself what’s today’s latest distraction?
He has no grounds to do any of this legally hes a citizen who needs to be the only one deported in the USA & I hope he gets arrested soon.
You cannot get your refund if you do not file.
If you owe money and do not file, the government will file for you and you will pay interest and penalties.
I am a retired IRS employee.
We get your W2s, your 1099s, et cetera.
If you have income, we wait. After a while, the computer calculates your taxes - making no assumptions in your favor so the result is typically the worst possible.
Then ....
If payment is not timely, eventually you get another letter.
After a while, collections grabs something from your bank account.
In most cases it is unnecessary - your bill is higher than you'd pay if you filed, so smart people will get the bill and file asap.
(I don’t earn enough to have to pay there anyway, so I presume it’s taken care of.)
This is beyond irresponsible.
BOTTOM LINE: Apparently, you CAN still use IRS Direct File. They're open for business as I write this:
https://abc7news.com/post/irs-direct-file-free-tax-program-is-available-despite-confusing-post-elon-musk/15864705/
UPOTUS Muskrat has no legal authority (nor does VP Trump)to cut off any appropriated funding or payments sourced from our tax dollars. It is imperative we refuse to pay taxes until he is removed.
Preferably to South Africa or an island outside Earth
Why should we deposit to Musk's shiny new checking account that belonged to Americans a few days ago?
Taxation w/out Representation is not okay.
Hit them in the pocketbook. It's the only way.
2025 Boston Tea Party starts now.