Even if the technocrats were right about AI replacing all jobs (they’re not), notice they never pitch any vision for what happens to humans. “No one has to work anymore” sounds great, but the only version of it where we’re not sleeping under bridges is one where these guys pay their fucking taxes - ThreadSky | a Reddit-style client for Bluesky

rob-sheridan.com • 65 days ago

Even if the technocrats were right about AI replacing all jobs (they’re not), notice they never pitch any vision for what happens to humans. “No one has to work anymore” sounds great, but the only version of it where we’re not sleeping under bridges is one where these guys pay their fucking taxes

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i think these people are in the grip of a genuine delusion www.nbcchicago.com/news/busines...

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caodragao.bsky.social•65 days ago

or where these guys are dismembred by angry mobs

davegraham.bsky.social•65 days ago

The vision was pitched, in all places, in Wall-E.

Subtle but hammered home the reality of what happens to complacent humans.

darkglade.bsky.social•65 days ago

Though Wall-E is a utopic vision compared to what we will actually see out of this, there'll be a few dozen or maybe a hundred rich arseholes at the top on flying lougers getting everything they want.

The rest... well... you don't need a working class if the robots can do everythng.

rob-sheridan.com•65 days ago

It’s the right time to primary the Dems with new candidates who will fight for a complete social overhaul of this country, with a vision of everyone working less and living more. On paper it will align with the technocrat automation fetishization, until they find out they’re gonna pay for it 🖕

wearelegion2025.bsky.social•65 days ago

With top minds like this they'll simply never find out

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black8eltjones.bsky.social•65 days ago

😂😂😂

bornmiserable.bsky.social•65 days ago

Bill Gates went to Epstein Island to fuck an AI robot

pgharley56.bsky.social•65 days ago

I think it’s would be easier to replace billionaires with AI to be honest.

nemescontent.bsky.social•65 days ago

And their AI (through their output or to the equivalent of a human worker) is taxed too.

aboutosleep.bsky.social•65 days ago

Well without the people you basically have nothing the workers will have to shape another world. 🤷‍♂️ Greedy people & bigots won't help guide humanity they'll become even more obsolete than they are now.

volcanicsand.bsky.social•65 days ago

Unclear to me whether they mean AI will replace teachers or there will be no need for humans to learn anything

ajc-mis.bsky.social•65 days ago

Probably the latter.

darkglade.bsky.social•65 days ago

I mean, they're trying to destroy the Department of Education so...

alanempty.bsky.social•65 days ago

Exactly that. It's never a vision for humanity. It's a vision for cost savings.

tomfodw.bsky.social•65 days ago

I'm a big fan of what's known in science fiction as a "post-scarcity" future--particularly in Star Trek and The Culture. What neither pays much attention to is how we get from here to there. The idea of not having to work goes back at least to Fourier.

stephenbaines.bsky.social•65 days ago

Also, what about accountability? If AI makes a mistake that kills a person, who answers for it? How does any of that work?

christianwilson.bsky.social•65 days ago

High tech, low life.

pokupoku.shop•65 days ago

~55% of americans already don't work.

mushroomsoupowl.bsky.social•65 days ago

Anyone who wants to replace massage therapists with robots is just looking to be injured.

gamescan.bsky.social•65 days ago

The original "no one has to work anymore" idea was supposed to be paired with UBI. It only works if you have something like that, so there's a baseline that allows people to explore what interests them.

gradyland.bsky.social•65 days ago

This is exactly why @andrew-yang was pushing for a Freedom Dividend/UBI so Americans could actually benefit from AI…

audhdylan.bsky.social•65 days ago

I'd love to see a breakdown of how correct (or not) these billionaires have been over the years with all the bullshit they spew in these talks. I'm pretty confident Elon's wrong about 104% of the time, but the others must be pretty rough, too.

robincapper.bsky.social•65 days ago

"Computers are 90% logic and 9% luck.
The other 11% has something to do with math."
"Mags" on the MindManager Forum

ajc-mis.bsky.social•65 days ago

Yes, for example, Microsoft Windows started in 1985 and after 40 years, it still crashes and has security flaws. You'd think they'd have fixed it by now.

audhdylan.bsky.social•65 days ago

Oh every Microsoft product is complete ass. It's really remarkable what you can accomplish with unlimited resources and decades of experience sinking your claws into every possible government, business, and education system.

ajc-mis.bsky.social•65 days ago

I'm still waiting for MOOCs to replace teachers. It's been 13 years and still hasn't happened. GenAI can't tell the difference btw pizza sauce and Elmer's, so I'm not worried yet.

philoof.bsky.social•65 days ago

No thanks

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diogeneslamp.bsky.social•65 days ago

How come these guys never imagine a future where AI eliminates billionaires

jeffedu.bsky.social•65 days ago

110%

arya67.bsky.social•65 days ago

Are we really so stupid that we will knowingly replace ourselves with computers?
Well obviously we are, since no one is blinking an eye at destroying the only habitable planet we have.

jimbobsama.bsky.social•65 days ago

It's the stories like this that make me sound like a Luddite because it's never capital making sure people are fed and housed when technology makes their jobs obsolete - just fewer people the barons have to pay for their labor.

scotthanz.bsky.social•65 days ago

That sounds like the Zaeger and Evans hit In the Year 2525 becoming a reality almost 500 years early.A truly sad and scary thought.

briancullen.bsky.social•65 days ago

For the foreseeable future, AI may well create far more jobs than in destroys - fixing the damage caused by AI

rev-colleen.bsky.social•65 days ago

If Gates is correct, why would we need teachers or schools? If we just let AI do everything, our children don't need to know how to do anything, right?

katpick.bsky.social•65 days ago

Which is why the ones 'they' decide 'they' can best do without will be exterminated.

kapwen.bsky.social•65 days ago

I feel like I'm living in the Twilight Zone.

rimagev.bsky.social•65 days ago

And to think I considered gates to be one of the smarter billionaires...

grimflandango.bsky.social•65 days ago

Not your fault, tech journalists have been fawning acolytes of these sociopathic grifters since they first started emerging from their pods.

iamtravis182.bsky.social•65 days ago

Yeah man, AI is going to replace teachers.

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davidfagan.bsky.social•65 days ago

We will be batteries and blood bags, so we'll have plenty of job security.

brinkley42.bsky.social•65 days ago

Straight up. Yarvin, Musk, Theil, Vance. To what end…. They don’t know or care for that matter. Except it’s not sustainable. They see nothing but a fantastic future with endless possibilities but ignore all history. No answers for the continuation of humanity and the greater good of societies.

darkglade.bsky.social•65 days ago

They don't care, they figure they'll be comfortable in their expensive bunkers when the world burns.

caveatruptur.bsky.social•65 days ago

bill gates forgot what happened after the personal computer destroyed everyone's jobs

plankysmith.bsky.social•65 days ago

ikr

tindizzy.bsky.social•65 days ago

Watched a doc about this last year. Thousands upon thousand of jobs have already been lost to automation the world over. And, then they painted a world where no one works in stores, streets are empty and barren, there is NO community to speak of and the poor waste away sequestered in their cubicles.

raven-darkstar.bsky.social•65 days ago

Well, I guess they'll need slaves because food doesn't actually come from an app. Also, AI can't physically build pyramids.

darkglade.bsky.social•65 days ago

But Optimus!!!

/s (satire is dead)

Humanoid robots are fucking stupid for most applications, there's a reason industrial robots are designed the way they are designed.

raven-darkstar.bsky.social•65 days ago

Ya. Judging by all the teslur recalls I would trust one of those things in the kitchen with sharp utensils.

raven-darkstar.bsky.social•65 days ago

Uh.... *not.

scruffmonkey.bsky.social•65 days ago

Notice they never say that AI can replace the billionaires? I could replace them with a 2x4 and the world would carry on as if nothing had happened (except that it would stop getting shittier as pricks were no longer extracting value from the system like black hole vampires).

pokupoku.shop•65 days ago

have they ever said it can't?

ari183672.bsky.social•65 days ago

Their vision is that we die of hunger, disease, and climate disasters.

darthclarth.bsky.social•65 days ago

That's what the AI controlled killdrones will be for.

cristobalm.bsky.social•65 days ago

Raise your kids to be plumbers and electricians. No AI is going to unclog your toilet or fixed that busted outlet.

birddecentralise.bsky.social•65 days ago

Their “everyone will share in abundance” optimism doesn’t match the reality of humans I’ve experienced the last 40 years.

drobk.bsky.social•65 days ago

I thought Bill was abit less billionaires than those others, but I'm seeing now why Window's 11 sucks.

pixelsbyprince.bsky.social•64 days ago

Bill left MS ages before Windows 11.

tattooed-thornback.bsky.social•65 days ago

Elon Musk said us peasants would make more money growing tomatoes and selling them at the farmers market. Because he understands absolutely 0 about the world

witchofscots.bsky.social•65 days ago

AI could certainly replace CEO and other senior management jobs.

wrecknicians.bsky.social•20 days ago

No, there are many versions. Including several in which the private property of the means of production is abolished.

pattypoo.bsky.social•65 days ago

You got that right, he’s nuts

astrokatie.com•65 days ago

Yeah, exactly. Any future vision that includes “the AIs will do all the work” but not a plan for a universal basic income is either delusional or apocalyptic.

moonkist.bsky.social•65 days ago

let’s inject him with gardisil and get him gone

jb3po.bsky.social•65 days ago

Maybe we can get AI to tell the billionaires to pay their effing taxes.

mcpoylesnavy.bsky.social•65 days ago

Saying AI will replace teachers is in the same vein as MOOCs will revolutionize education. Didn't happen.

People learn differently and what we learned from the pandemic is that individual teachers matter. Immediate interaction (teachers v students; students v students) matters

Such a tech bro view

rubyryder.bsky.social•65 days ago

#UniversalBasicIncome

atypeofwriter.bsky.social•65 days ago

Good way to reduce population is what trump is doing at warp speed now.

davideelder.bsky.social•65 days ago

Also, it’s been 70 years of “we’ll have flying cars in 10 years,” and I just drove, ON A ROAD, 12 hours that woulda been a lot quicker with that flying car.