Are your friends in LA exhibiting a completely normal trauma response? Comfort them in their time of need by telling them they've been drugged and/or have fallen victim to space lasers
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But we know it's a propaganda technique -- lead ppl to their "own" conclusions by planting ideas and "asking questions". Then they can say "see! Everyone's saying this! It must be true!" as if they didn't manipulate them 😒. Every right wing figure does this 😠
Oh, I mean, it's a good tactic - it's clever. Presenting information as a question leads people to not only reach the conclusion you want them to reach, but to feel like that conclusion is theirs in some way. So then any attack on that conclusion is an attack on them.
Precisely. You get it.
It deceitfully reinforces to people that they were NOT manipulated. That results in extremely strong convictions that are harder to dissuade.
At one time, the excellent psychologist who directed UCLA's Neuropsych assessment service also directed (iirc) local Red Cross trauma resources.
If she/ her colleagues yeet Wolf, it'd be a service.
Ugh. I did my Trauma Psychiatry fellowship at UCLA in the early 90’s and worked with as well served survivors of natural disasters including the 1971 Sylmar quake, the 1961 Bel Air fire, and even the 1938 LA flood.
More than one those folks would have yeeted Wolf into Ballona Creek.
I’d clap.
Honestly, I think one of the best sources of pushback for conspiracy nonsense is people who actually lived through the events getting together en masse and going, “No, that’s not what happened. Fuck you.”
These people are so completely batshit. The mental gymnastics one has to perform to arrive at these absurd conspiracies, instead of just acknowledging the simple fact that fossil fuel corporations are killing is all and the government is a willing accomplice.
Sociopaths don't understand normal emotions or normal reactions to stress. She sees it as irrational, rather than as shock, as she doesn't process things in a normal way.
The conspiracy theories are endless.
I escaped a 5 alarm fire with my life and nothing else. I was in shock and confused for a good month after. They need support, kindness and comfort, not cockamamie bs!
That is absolutely insane, I say as a licensed therapist who has worked with clients experiencing natural disaster-related TRAUMA. Naomi Wolf is a first class dipshit.
I wonder if that’s why I was in such a daze when I lost my estranged mother unexpectedly. It wasn’t a normal trauma/ grief response, it must have been mind control sprays.
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I can’t tell if I’m surprised she expect people facing a burning city to react normally or that she thinks there might be some mass-drugging happening.
Hi Laura,
I was referring to the fake Naomi Wolf, not you. Sorry for not being clearer.
I'll bet Magats promised to pay the Arsonist to destroy these lives. Just like Dumps people promised to pay the caravans, saying we have jobs and open borders to cause havoc the border, say the caravaners.
She is fucking nuts. Their bewilderment at the immense trauma is a completely normal response in the middle of the crisis. The tremendous pain will come after.
What is the normal reaction to seeing fires destroy entire communities — adhering to evacuation orders, asking when half of the country is going to take climate change seriously, taking selfies in front of flames, asking for mercenary firefighters on Twitter, or blaming the fires on DEI?
Between the wackadoodles and the too-clever-by-halfs, there's a thick seam of ill-considered fools' gold in the online commentary concerning the fires. It's now just part of what we expect when something like this happens: inchoate brain farts as part of the discourse. Thank you, social media.
She's really lost her mind. I mean, I knew it but it just keeps being true. Just an absolute loon. Also, I've been plenty panicked and terrified, too. Don't worry, we're generally experiencing a wide range of emotions over here.
I am told some of the fire retardant being sprayed around now in the US is the same stuff we made illegal here, used out of desperation and lack of regulation. But the bad stuff won't mood change them, it will just try to kill them & other animals. Perhaps that is where she got this nonsense from?
She was always a notoriously sloppy writer, but I believe you can actually hear the moment her brain completely fractures in that interview. This is the fulcrum on which her entire life swung: from here it was an uncontrolled slide down into madness and a permanent guest spot on Bannon’s podcast.
Hrmm. That’s odd. There’s a raging urban wildfire and yet you’re *not* taking supplements of artisanal ground iron shavings to counteract the 5G radio waves emanating from your flu vaccine.
Wolf is a nut.
Denial is a completely normal response to trauma or grief.
After a big loss, I always sort of freeze for a few weeks. It’s protected me in the past, a defense mechanism.
Not everyone responds in the same way.
I believe in mood stabilizers myself but I generally take them in liquid and or smoke form but if there's a sort that can be beamed in waves right into me brain? Please let me know where I can get a hit.
We may be about to enter a period of unprecedented human suffering, but at least we're increasingly incapable of being kind and supportive while it happens
Oh, I dunno, history has some incredible precedents for mass suffering. Much and in some places most of the European population died in just a few years during the Black Death, to give just one example. Important to remember as we live through the mayhem ahead, I think, if only to offer perspective.
no idk, she could have some kind of "functional" paranoia/psychosis of some sort, but she's hardly alone in it. Idk where conspiracy theory starts and individual pathology stops, I just know she and her ilk need to go the fuck away, shit's not funny anymore.
It's quite likely none of these things, but simply that she went down a rabbit hole and didn't have the critical skills to get herself back out. Just like happens to most people who become involved in conspiracy theories.
Since at the bottom of these rabbit holes inductive reasoning is the norm but information is always incomplete, once it starts to make sense to you it's hard to unmake it.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? I've been using the fact that , having made it through 74 years, I won't often be gobsmacked as consolation for being old. And here I am, gobsmacked again.
Well dammit, looks like you're onto us Naomi! Canada is spraying mind control chemicals over LA. It's Phase 1 of our nefarious plan to convert Californians into obedient citizens of the 11th province.
Humans are pattern-making/story-creating creatures. In some individuals it gets coupled with a distinct lack of critical thinking, possibly some neurochemical something going a bit screwy for whatever reason, and--in this case, at least--an apparent need for DRAMA centering oneself.
This reply gave me some hope for sanity over there, only to have that hope crushed. It's like the reverse of the "they had us in the first half, not gonna lie" meme.
But still better than the guy who responded: "the jab nanites collect at the frontal cortex of the brain, taking over their thinking process in a hive mind (lab shown) driven by 5G signals, and they are also under 7.83Hz Theta State program-mode hypnosis."
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Maddening.
It deceitfully reinforces to people that they were NOT manipulated. That results in extremely strong convictions that are harder to dissuade.
"Feeling numb or detached from one’s body."
At one time, the excellent psychologist who directed UCLA's Neuropsych assessment service also directed (iirc) local Red Cross trauma resources.
If she/ her colleagues yeet Wolf, it'd be a service.
More than one those folks would have yeeted Wolf into Ballona Creek.
I’d clap.
Occam’s Razor, people. Wake TF up!
This will pass.
I escaped a 5 alarm fire with my life and nothing else. I was in shock and confused for a good month after. They need support, kindness and comfort, not cockamamie bs!
There are no coincidences!
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If your Naomi be Klein
You're doing just fine
If your Naomi be Wolf
Oh buddy, big oof
I was referring to the fake Naomi Wolf, not you. Sorry for not being clearer.
I'll bet Magats promised to pay the Arsonist to destroy these lives. Just like Dumps people promised to pay the caravans, saying we have jobs and open borders to cause havoc the border, say the caravaners.
Good lord, what the actual?
https://bsky.app/profile/localnotail.bsky.social/post/3lbczfx3wh22n
Must have been too many characters for xhitter.
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But also deranged yes
I'd say "Where the hell do they find these people?" but actually there seems to be no end to them.
https://www.thecut.com/2019/05/naomi-wolf-interview-book-error-bbc-interview.html
She didn't even bother cross-checking her information with the authoritative source.
Do they pay themselves on the back, chuckling over the confusion and dismay they cause?
You call 'em Doctor.
god damnit her PhD is in English lit. I should have known.
Denial is a completely normal response to trauma or grief.
After a big loss, I always sort of freeze for a few weeks. It’s protected me in the past, a defense mechanism.
Not everyone responds in the same way.
(Also I am so sorry. This is horrific. Beyond words)
Eventually we will, but for now it is almost too much to comprehend and process
no idk, she could have some kind of "functional" paranoia/psychosis of some sort, but she's hardly alone in it. Idk where conspiracy theory starts and individual pathology stops, I just know she and her ilk need to go the fuck away, shit's not funny anymore.
BBC News - Evidence in Naomi Wolf's new book is questioned
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-48639663
And here we are...
Truly smart people know different
We're all potential marks
Look at how fast election conspiracy theories spread through "Blue Wave" communities?
Its really really undersold how long term isolation is brain rot if you don’t like engage in the world at any “real” level
She has no business commenting on anything medical.
because that is batshit