I was at a DKs gig in the early 80s at Leicester Uni that got wrecked by skinheads after about 5 songs.
UK Nazi Skinheads were a real problem, Nazi punks non existant.
And just to confuse matters Anti-Nazi skinheads 😁
Perhaps I've lived under a rock my entire life, but I've never seen a serious nazi punk here in the UK. Nazism was always more of a bad skinhead thing. (Good non-nazi skinheads are also available!)
Good to know nazi punks get messed up elsewhere though.
Yeah, back in the day ours were mostly of the skinhead variety, which just pissed me off because I knew a lot of them were high school kids from the suburbs. Trying to be edgy without being themselves even back then.
It is a common recruiting tactic to take on some trend that they believe they can find people primed to recruit. Same reason they are all over the incel population now. they want angry, disillusioned teens and young men they can brainwash. If you look like one of them, it makes that journey shorter.
Not an original bone in their body. They just steal credit for ideas that arent theirs. Not to mention the horrible sense of fashion and just being unbearable to be around generally.
Trump partisans may very well rewrite the story the other way around, talking about comm*nists.
'nough said. I've given my arguements. I'm not here to argue indefinitely. There's the other bar for that ;-)
was hanging with a buddy from the UK in a NCY bar and he noticed that someone was wearing that type of stuff, I had no idea what any of it meant, and we left promptly. then he told the bartender what had happened, that it was a nazi punk band playing in the back, and that he wouldnt be returning.
Pretty sure the rest of the world doesn't want him either.
Just put him on a little island where he can have sex with all the robots he's building (you know that's where it's going anyway)
Exactly. But he is not building anything. He pays people to build stuff. He himself is dumber than a rock. He can't code. He can't play games. He is nothing but a stack of money. Void of any intelligence.
They’re so effing ugly 😣
So many driving those stupid 90s sedan-looking cars around here, and now the post apocalyptic ones. And I am at a supposed to be a liberal leaning area!
you are. I just found a trove of MAGAs and reported and blocked them all. Must have been a hundred. I kept going from one profile to the next based on their feeds and comments. It's a good way to root them out.
This is what happened to America a long time ago. All of the politeness, ignoring the racism, and now we are smack dab in the middle of it, and a lot of people want to know how we got here.
Dear Mr. Oswalt,
What an inspiration you are. With everything that you have experienced, you, sir, are a good man from everything I have heard and read. Just know even if I am a random Internet person, you have inspired me to press through hardships. To be a better father, a better husband.
I notice more of us are getting like that bartender and it’s long overdue. We need to shut this Nazi and fascist shit down immediately and strongly. No time to police people’s feelings. They know what they’re doing and are trying to become a problem.
Had this happen at a 7-Eleven I worked mids at near Detroit. I pointed them and their little pins on their coats out to some very large black dudes who made it known they weren't welcome.
With the exact text, two guys worked at 711 in the destroit mids and pointed out nazis to some scary black guys?
Either you've posted it with two accounts (could be an innocent accident) or something weird is happening
I’ve seen this piece many times over the past few years in reference to similar situations. Over the pandemic, it was from a friend who stood up to the Proud Boys at his neighborhood bar.
Also, I was into the punk/indie scene in the 80’s & 90’s. As soon as even 1 Nazi showed up, we all knew.
That’s what we must do! Because they truly feel emboldened. More likely they will be showing up in places they dared not show their ugly hatful faces before. But that has changed with this shit for president as well as democrats, courts, prosecutors and republicans not being trump to Justice.
You people are the most uncreative chuds on the internet. And you always tell on yourself with this shit: you can imagine endlessly ludicrous conspiracies perpetrated by those you hate, yet your imaginations are pathetically impoverished where any sense of quotidian ethics or nobility is concerned.
I promise to be brave, to speak honestly when someone lies or says something offensive, and to not just speak up, but to intervene when I see someone being hurt.
If I can't follow through on this ptomise, all of my posts, likes, and reposts are worthless.
Rublican Party = N*zi Party. Refer to them like this moving forward so ALL of them in office feel the hate. They’re the ones that made all of this possible. Keep them responsible.
@pattonoswalt.bsky.social , (from when I was a bartender)
We aren't ignoring you our CPU is straining itself with:
He's gotta tab?
She's hot
Yea-boy, I fucked her
I'm hungry better start earning
Fucking credit card machine!
That one's WAY hot!
No way, that fucker has a tab
Should prob get tested
That costs money. How are you going to get that money?
$10 a day.
Also, have you ever seen how impossible it is to actually become a US citizen? People have been here for decades and still can't become one
I'm just blocking them from jump. I just don't interact with them AT ALL and they'll get bored and go away. Zero tolerance, zero engagement. Like, "Get out of our bar"!!
Sort of like making Nazi sallutes and then claiming they were not nazi salutes. EVERYONE WITH A FUNCTIONING BRAIN know what they saw a little over a day and a half ago. NO ONE SHOULD be marginalizing it or being okay with it. We are a country of immigrants working together, not a fascist state.
I’ve had so many posts removed on other sites that I just revert to acronyms & other ways to bypass censorship. I have a very crusty mouth but typically save it for people that know me well. I do have a very well educated sailor’s vocabulary 😇
I grew up with friends whose families survived the holocaust. Some who lost members during that terrible time in our world. The Jewish community was very active in supporting the NAACP, which my family was very involved. We are all Jewish, Black, Brown people just trying to live a decent life.
My grandfather lost his oldest son who died on the Western Front 1944. He told me it was my heritage to kill Nazi's.
Our family dates back 100's of years to Germany. It was Franz a Hashian who jump ship and joined the Americans to fight the British. Not giving up now...
It’s still shocking to me, as it should be for us all, that Nazis are in our WH & running this country. Racist groups like the KKK, proud boys, & now the former Republican Party are out to destroy the diversity that makes America a great country.
The first time Rump had Russians in the White House I called the DC FBI and said "There's Russians in the Oval Office!" WTF are they doing there, who gave them a security clearance?! And once again our umbrella of National Security Agencies will let him do what he wants...
My father and my uncles killed Nazis too. My dad was in the Navy and got in some hairy water battles in WW2, Korea, Vietnam. My uncles fought in D-Day, the Battle of the Bulge but quit after '45. We are German/Polish by genealogy.
We may have to end up killing J6er Nazis now...
because of Trump
When I was little, I met a Polish woman who was housed in the Treblinka death camp in Poland. She had the arm tattoo and she had to sit with her back against the wall, was nervous as hell and chainsmoked like a chimney. One cig wasn't out before she lit another one. You can't fake that kind of PTSD
I had a customer that would buy flowers at the shop. I noticed her wedding finger was gone and I finally asked her about it. She was in Treblinka too. She told me the Nazi's cut off her finger to get her gold wedding band off! Nazi's are still monsters!
I think that all the soldiers who died in WW2, are turning over in their graves.
I am utterly and profoundly disgusted by the orange cult's lack of empathy and decency. How shameful.
This is a piece I did a while back. Fuckin skinheads think they can pose as punk but punk is about punching Nazis.
Incidentally, this is available at http://tee.pub/lic/UF8n__7Uk-k
Damn bro just be careful man.. historically fascist regimes like to collect information on people's degree of dissent. I mean your not wrong..but I would be far from surprised if they enact a campaign where social media is used to "find terrorists" and put people in cages. Idk hopefully I'm wrong
this is why liberals/democrats need guns and start following the example of far left leaders like malcolm x and not these eunics yall call leaders with hugging. I saw a video of a liberal saving a neo nahtsee from getting stomped to ☠️ and it made me sick
So, by your standards, that liberal should just let the neo nazi die. And simply because you don't agree with them or think they are sick. That sounds like a spot definition of a nazi. What makes you any different from them at that point? Nothing, it seems.
In his book, The Open Society and Its Enemies, Karl Popper coined the phrase “The paradox of tolerance”. Popper states that if a society is tolerant without any limit, its ability to be tolerant will eventually be destroyed, or seized, by the intolerant.
There are 244 million eligible voters in the US. I can see blaming the those who are eligible and didn't bother to vote. But I don't see how you can blame those who can't vote and those who voted against Trump, nearly half of those who DID vote.
No, because millions of us voted against the Nazis, donated to the campaign against the Nazis, tried to get friends and family to vote against the Nazis, and are now forced to live under the Nazi government we vehemently oppose.
I am going to ask you a sincere question in an age of insincerity and irony posting. Do you really think it's productive to lump people who voted against fascism with those who are fascists? Think hard, because black and white thinking is a direct sign of an authoritarian in my experience.
theres a similar one I just came by:
If at an event someone who throws a nazi salute is not immediatly dragged off stage and reported, then your'e attending a nazi event
What about when people sit with Nazis at public events and joke with them? Or tell them “welcome home” while handing them the reins of power? And the ones who ask for unity with them for the good of the country?
Now if only we'd done that after their OG got blown away in WW2. There were American Nazis CONCURRENT with the German ones, and I'm willing to bet a bunch of those assholes made it past the turn of the century. Imagine where we could be if we'd treated them as enemy sympathizers on the day of.
Our entire space program was built by Nazis. We actively recruited them for it. The base document for Operation Paperclip was a list of scientists whose loyalty the Nazi party considered unquestionable.
That’s right! My son educated me on this. Walt Disney was very anti - semitic. Hated jews. Made me sad to learn that. The nazi movement started in America.
This is why I don’t frequent bars anymore.
My cocktails at home are much better.
The clientele is not worth being around.
Dangerous, delusional, possibly contagious.
The reason white supremacy has such a strong and growing foothold in America is after Lincoln was murdered Johnson didn’t want to cause a scene in the bar so he let South off the hook and stay, not prosecute. And now we can’t get them out of the bar
W. E. B. Du Bois noted that after becoming president Johnson had an episode of public drunkenness, causing a significant scandal. The people who crowded around him were Southerners who played to his need for sympathy. They wormed their way into his orbit. Also, he'd always admired their "nobility".
No we weren’t. We’ve had multiple chances to drag ourselves out of the cruelty and degradation. Sometimes we do, and then we get a backlash. But that doesn’t mean we are determined to be that people. I don’t think we should let individuals off the hook.
Agree. We're defined by slavery. But I also believe we're defined by the hundreds of thousands of union soldiers who died to end that slavery. It's always been a battle for our soul, and right now the wrong side is winning.
That doesn’t mean we should give up this idea. Just because the wrong side wins often doesn’t mean we should let them do it. From the start people have resisted.
yup. DEI and affirmative action were good steps, but then the poors were pit against each other (us) and we didn't have enough class consciousness to realize those programs are for everyone.
Yeah it starts with the revising of why both wars even happening, giving those go don’t want to know a fake idea of this country’s identity&confusion about the existence of “the wrong side” it makes it hard to take folks seriously bc it’s clear to anyone not in a coma.
I don't think we are defined by slavery anymore than Africa, who was doing the selling. Or Europe who was doing the buying. We are not defined by any one thing. Also, we are only defined by what we let ourselves be defined by. Don't define yourself by anything and you will prosper more than anyone.
During last Trump presidency I had moved to New Hampshire schooling and one day I saw a dude driving a truck with Trump and Confederate flag,was not funny but I found it hilarious.Someone in New England with Confederate flag.I don't even think half of this idiots really understand history of America
But he wasn't motivated by Enlightenment ideals and philosophy, because that happened centuries later. No one really placed any value on human life and individual rights back then. The American founding fathers were, and for that we need to judge them by a higher standard.
Humankind did not evolve from apes with principles of human rights in our brains. In fact from an evolutionary standpoint we only have tribal instincts. Human rights were developed over time, and not until very recently. So no, it's not bullshit.
Reconstruction should have never ended and all the Confederates who betrayed the Union should have never been allowed to resume holding positions within the govt. All the right wing movements from then on until now come from the Confederacy and the American Loyalists sympathetic to British rule.
Well, then learn to deal with them. I’m not one, btw, ao don’t assume everybody down here is braindead. You have plenty of Trump Toadies up North, too.
I guess now we have to be the problem. We need to get into the good kind of trouble. We need to fight this fucking fascism before it gets worse, because it will get worse. Punk bartenders of the world: unite!
I think the idea of being bigger needs to end ...otherwise like tye bartender said you tolerate one and you create a village and it becomes too late ..now we got one at white house and he throwing a party for the ones he got free..only in America
I was gonna say, this'd be great advice if we had a time machine.
Not we reverse the narrative. We go into their Nazis spaces and pretend to be polite until we outnumber them and then we cause some problems.
In the early 90’s in Vancouver I used to hang with some anarchist punks and there was a few who would go out and find nazis, beat them up and run them out of town. I asked why and he said you can’t have a convo with someone who wants you dead. They need to know you won’t tolerate them. Line drawn.
If you see somebody with nazi symbols or tattoos, call them out. Ask what it is until they admit it. Make them uncomfortable. Tell them they aren’t wanted. They are actually very cowardly. We allow them to exist so they do. But we don’t have to allow their presence.
I will admit that’s it’s easier for me to do that because I’m fairly imposing. But even just asking what that tattoo means goes a long way. They know you know.
A good reminder of the “First they came for…” tale where no one says anything about injustice until it’s about them personally. I won’t not call this out. trump added silver eagles to his office decor, and I suppose an iron cross is next.
Quacks like a Nazi, must be a Nazi.
Meanwhile Trimp 86'd the GOP Moderates and replaced them with these Nazi types the GOP once condemned and disavowed, dragging the party waaaay right. But we all knew that.
That’s exactly right. That’s why I’m losing family members and really close friends that I’ve had for years. That salute the other day that was the last straw for me.
Totally with you here. I expected all the horrendous presidential orders but the Nazi salute almost broke me. I am absolutely not overreacting when I say the new administration is dangerous for everyone that lives in the US.
If they are comfortable with a Nazi salute then they are comfortable with gas chambers. They will deny it, but it is how their comfort will be interpreted.
Maybe not gas chambers yet but there is this: Trump signed an executive order on Monday night calling for the dramatic expansion of the use of the federal death penalty. The directive fulfills a key part of Project 2025's right-wing mandate for his administration.
“We” as in the American people did not say “okay”. The American government did.
But with Christian white supremacy.
Get the church out of government and you’ll eradicate the white supremacy. I don’t care if there are people who believe that they’re the “good kind” of Christian supremacist.
Indeed I will, and my loved ones as well. Thank you for holding up the song for when others can't sing. That would be me, today. I will take up the tune when it's someone else's turn to cry
Man if there was only some way someone could distill this entire story into a nice, easy to remember, four word slogan. And then maybe turn it into the chorus of a punk song.
Great post. We are from trump country and have been warning our good hearted liberal east coast friends that rural America IS not a nice place anymore. The MAGAs hate you and will hurt if given an opportunity and Trump says go.
Had to laugh because it's an age-restricted video. I'm just sitting here arguing with the video... Do you even know who you're restricting... 😂 Got carded on Bluesky
Their arguments aren't even reasonable. They just fool stupids. But that's their target audience, sadly. It's the same reason Emperor Felonius, First of His Shame, speaks at a 5th grade level...
It’s referring to their longstanding practice of disarming communities they want to take over by presenting themselves as reasonable & neighborly. So when the good people try to push them away they have defenders saying “They’ve been nothing but kind, you’re the bully here”.
With tremendous respect, sir, those of us who disagree with nazism should be using the alt text feature so we dont make even more of the web inaccessible to so many disabled people. Your phone can pull all the text out of the image in seconds and you can add it to ALT before submitting 🫡🏴😇
…it’s a country built on land stolen from natives. There was no turning point. It’s always been like this, and Trump is merely a manifestation of the rot permeating this country.
Actually, there are many things that led up to 2016. For one, remember the Tea party in the early 2010-14 (approximately)?
Maybe even as far back as President Reagan when his policies negatively affected the middle class. We have never recovered.
It started centuries ago when it was founded in genocide and slavery -which led to a war which people at the time didn’t have the spine to finish properly.
Because the worldview underlying nazism equals punk with "degeneracy", so people who are deeply fucked up and full on nazis are drawn to punk because they believe the nazi idea of it. And other nazis let them because they got no principles or standards.
They want to find the young, insecure, directionless, and angry and direct all that energy against their chosen targets. It’s the same person the taliban looks for.
MAGA HATS Are Turned away at businesses, right?
Resist and don't give an inch to those whose intentions are to be terrible and awful even ignore their reasonable argument.
While there are some that still flex overt n*zi symbols, the ones we are dealing with today wear red hats and the American flag. Same agenda, different uniform, harder to kick out, but deserving of pushback nonetheless.
I don't think it's quite the same agenda, although there are many similarities. One thing I find fascinating is how much they claim to hate countries who use propaganda to influence their people. Yet there they are, red hats & waving their national pride American flags...
I keep telling people this would happen to the GOP if they let Nazis in, providing these people with this cautionary tale... and they shrugged the story off. Look at what the GOP are now
Wow. Musk said “alcohol is poison”. I’m really surprised he walked into a bar and sat down next to you. No wonder you never forgot the story. Thanks for sharing.
I saw this scenario play out in my local divey punk bar. Skin head comes in, the owner and the bartender size him up, have a quick chat with him, then tell him to never come back, because they don’t want him coming back and bringing his friends.
Yes I agree the Republican Party is arguably worse than the also incompetent, 3% less fascist, Democratic Party. Planet earth will never work together if we keep focusing on the mythology that we have a choice and one is less evil. The wealthy people know better and donate to both parties.
This is a fascist takeover of the federal government, involving the establishment of autocratic rule enabled by the christofascist SCOTUS super majority ruling in The Orange Slug v United States.
I would not dream of trying to. We use a different vernacular to convey the same message. All voices of resistence to this authoritarian state should be heard and respected.
Absolutely. It is perfectly reasonable for people opposing this regime to disagree that it is a fascist takeover of the federal gov. I am more than happy to discuss it with them respectfully. I welcome being exposed to other perspectives.
I agree with you on the merits of your case. Only the choice of words varies. I am 73 and have found that language which is persuasive rather than confrontational often affects the opinions of others more positively.
The words that I might consider changing are “The Orange Slug.” However, I refuse to utilize the title of the office it has unconstitutionally been sworn into, & I will NEVER type its name. The Orange Slug deserves 0 respect. It is a fascist traitor that should be incarcerated; enemy of the people.
Agreed. I choose not to use dehumanizing terms because that is to behave similarly to him. I never refer to him by the honorific he exploits. I do use his name for precision, not for respect. I complete agree that he is an enemy of the people.
I feel for you. I have had to cut people out of my life over this…. And I live on Vancouver Island. I don’t put up with any right wing hateful crap from anyone. I am sick of people using christianity to promote evil.
It’s truly heartbreaking. I never expected to be on opposite sides. He was my best friend and life partner. I say was because a true friend of mine would be supportive of my feelings.
Some of the people I am enjoying are Adam Kinzinger, Greg Olear and Just Jack.
BYW….. just because someone has a degree doesn’t make them intelligent, compassionate or a better person.
Thanks for reaching out. I will take a look at the people you recommend.
I agree with you. It’s good to have a degree, but it doesn’t change who a person is on the inside.
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There's no such thing as a nazi punk.
It's notionally antithetical.
UK Nazi Skinheads were a real problem, Nazi punks non existant.
And just to confuse matters Anti-Nazi skinheads 😁
You're right, nazi skinheads were the REAL problem.
Proper skinheads were cool as...
Oppression is not punk.
We are all punk together if we have hope and crush nazis.
#PunkSaveUs
#HOPECORPS
❤️🔥✊️❤️🔥
Running off Nazis was kind of a punk rock right of manhood.
Good to know nazi punks get messed up elsewhere though.
We know, America.
It's just the logic of it. I'd rather talk about the (high) risk of violence and not about the n*zi cross.
Neither are the Klan, the Christian Nationalists, or any other inherently anti-social identity.
The social contract of tolerance is about making society as free as possible. There is no equal counterpoint to that goal.
'nough said. I've given my arguements. I'm not here to argue indefinitely. There's the other bar for that ;-)
Trump partisans are the ones actively seeking to do harm to the concept of a community. They are actively attacking the concept of tolerance.
The people banning books have no equal but opposed view of inclusion. Their goals are exclusionary.
"If there's one thing I can't stand, it's intolerance!"
Do you remember where the bar was. I want to meet this guy. Sounds like he would be really nice to ignore...✌️😉
I appreciate you sharing!!✌️
They are readers & serial killers & sexual assaulters.
The Klan is Rising
We will see more dress-up
The robes will be on parade
That all falls in the clown car party
... Shitdiot
Just put him on a little island where he can have sex with all the robots he's building (you know that's where it's going anyway)
..it might explode on the way out of the atmosphere...
🙄
So many driving those stupid 90s sedan-looking cars around here, and now the post apocalyptic ones. And I am at a supposed to be a liberal leaning area!
You feeling better?
What an inspiration you are. With everything that you have experienced, you, sir, are a good man from everything I have heard and read. Just know even if I am a random Internet person, you have inspired me to press through hardships. To be a better father, a better husband.
Either you've posted it with two accounts (could be an innocent accident) or something weird is happening
Also, I was into the punk/indie scene in the 80’s & 90’s. As soon as even 1 Nazi showed up, we all knew.
Anyway, laughed at the image of nazi punks getting told to fuck off by black dudes 😄
Sounds like Seattle or Portland.
If I can't follow through on this ptomise, all of my posts, likes, and reposts are worthless.
We aren't ignoring you our CPU is straining itself with:
He's gotta tab?
She's hot
Yea-boy, I fucked her
I'm hungry better start earning
Fucking credit card machine!
That one's WAY hot!
No way, that fucker has a tab
Should prob get tested
They're coming for the jobs. They will gladly work doing whatever is job offered.
They're not taking your jobs, either. The owners are giving the jobs to the immigrants b/c they'll work for $10 a day. You won't.
President Trump today sent North Carolina $2 Billion that was earmarked for “migrants”
He said “They won’t need it”
BOOM!!!
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
The fucking difference you asshole is ''legally''.
$10 a day.
Also, have you ever seen how impossible it is to actually become a US citizen? People have been here for decades and still can't become one
He said “They won’t need it”
BOOM!!!
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
i blame the never ending quest for bipartisanship from the libs
in a less decorum poisoned world the nascent fash right would have been strangled in it's crib
Our family dates back 100's of years to Germany. It was Franz a Hashian who jump ship and joined the Americans to fight the British. Not giving up now...
We may have to end up killing J6er Nazis now...
because of Trump
I am utterly and profoundly disgusted by the orange cult's lack of empathy and decency. How shameful.
Incidentally, this is available at http://tee.pub/lic/UF8n__7Uk-k
In his book, The Open Society and Its Enemies, Karl Popper coined the phrase “The paradox of tolerance”. Popper states that if a society is tolerant without any limit, its ability to be tolerant will eventually be destroyed, or seized, by the intolerant.
Seems a bit of foreshadowing now, huh ?
Don't fucking call us Nazis.
If at an event someone who throws a nazi salute is not immediatly dragged off stage and reported, then your'e attending a nazi event
What we should have done is kill him. That way neither of us would benefit from Nazi science. It would have been doing a service.
My cocktails at home are much better.
The clientele is not worth being around.
Dangerous, delusional, possibly contagious.
https://youtu.be/4QDLXZRhqAA?si=_gAAujrwrEIKQZDf
The world didn't make it clear enough to Germany that they lost WWI.
Not we reverse the narrative. We go into their Nazis spaces and pretend to be polite until we outnumber them and then we cause some problems.
Quacks like a Nazi, must be a Nazi.
Thanks for reposting!
But with Christian white supremacy.
Get the church out of government and you’ll eradicate the white supremacy. I don’t care if there are people who believe that they’re the “good kind” of Christian supremacist.
Out.
DONATE TO THE DEMS NOW! THERE ARE OPEN SEATS TO FILL.
Damn NAZIS!
They will NEVER be us!
Make a playlist.
https://bsky.app/profile/quote-unquote.bsky.social/post/3lg5gtealf22p
First posted here:
https://bsky.app/profile/timmytimmytimmytim.bsky.social/post/3lfupj5dnbs24
Maybe even as far back as President Reagan when his policies negatively affected the middle class. We have never recovered.
🤣🤣
Resist and don't give an inch to those whose intentions are to be terrible and awful even ignore their reasonable argument.
Anyone who screams about what a Patriot they are is someone to beware of.
Don’t shout it, live it.
https://suno.com/song/e4d73ffc-d50a-46b1-b760-65f8f740dfa2
Convince me otherwise.
However, I do believe that the evidence is clear.
BYW….. just because someone has a degree doesn’t make them intelligent, compassionate or a better person.
I agree with you. It’s good to have a degree, but it doesn’t change who a person is on the inside.
NEVER GIVE FASCISM AN INCH
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