Useful on desktop widget that would allow you to just enter a temp and choose its scale to automatically display its counterpart. I could probably do that in access easily enough.
Not a very popular take, but Celsius is a terrible scale for the context of human comfort or even carbon based life. It would seem so ideal for going from that organically critical water freezing to boiling, but going from 'it's chilly' to 'I'm sweating my balls off between 15-35 doesn't cut it.
For those who don't know, that's 59-95 in Fahrenheit. 36 degree change vs 20. That's not granular enough to capture what kinds of changes that makes for us carbon based creatures. The biggest thing to fix is the odd 32-212 range for water states. Make Celsius water state scale go 0-200 it could work
Eh, I've seen these rules of thumb forever and it's never committed to memory. I just don't interact with Celsius enough and I keep an app on my phone for all conversions anyway.
This is more complicated than it needs to be because you're converting to Celsius first and then to Kelvin. A direct conversion would look like (32°F + 459.67) * 5/9 = 273.15 °F.
Converting Celsius is marginally easier because there's no magnitude conversion.
While I don’t comment on YouTube ever I would still appreciate if you would just display the conversion to Celsius in the picture. But you know best how many of your viewers come from a ‘Celsius’ country and if it’s worth the effort.
Yup, woodworking guys on YT from both sides of the pond developed a nice habit of showing the other number as they speak. It's not strictly necessary but it is nice.
Reading the replies here just make me astonished at the low reading comprehension and lack of knowledge regarding your practices. So many are assuming that you never show it on screen rather than it being this ONE instance.
It's not but idk, it seems the Celsius users just always get so mad about it when someone doesn't say a thing in Celsius, I don't get it, I just Google that shit, punching in "27 c to f" is even easier than doing the actual 9/5+32 thing
There will always be people on both sides that complain. You will never get one group that doesn't and one that does. One glance through this thread will quickly demonstrate that.
As a USAin, I can't say for today's kids, but when I was in school we were taught both Fahrenheit and Celsius scales. And enough stuck that I know the boiling and freezing points of both, and what a comfy temperature range is.
Honestly even if he did, half the time I don’t care too much about the specific number, just how it compares to another number in the same unit. “This washer used 80 globnards and this one used 57” tells me most of what I need to know to get the point!
I just ignore fahrenheits, if the number was important it would have been in celsius, so it's there purely just to fill in the expectation of a value being listed.
I don't know why anyone needs to complain about them.
I mentally substitute the words "that don't matter" for the word "Fahrenheit". Other non-Metric units are easier because they share the zero, and it's just a matter of scale (double the inches for centimetres, half the pounds for kilos, third of the feet for metres) but even those are unimportant.
Ah yes, why make "Fucking freezing" zero, and "hot enough to really fuck you up" 100, when you can instead have those handy base fuckall numbers of... Actually, I can't even remember what they are. Because knowing them doesn't make me smarter, and they're devoid of need or intuitive sense.
I mean, you can use whatever fractional fuckery measurements of things you like, but let's not pretend they're still in use for any reason other than "It's just what we're used to".
It'd be more efficient for one person to do the conversion at creation time instead of requiring many people to convert at viewing time, so please make the effort.
Love your content, despite the antiquated measurements.
If it’s Celsius, I get like 2 months below zero, which is sad. But with Fahrenheit, it’s still 27 degrees. Though I don’t care because it takes like 5 seconds memorize a few reference temps to compare the two, which is all we really need.
I use US Customary units, but I'm also just exhausted by all the jokes in the format of "Here's the measurement in my system, and in the other system it's 'Go f*** yourself'".
Chryosran22 videos are the worst about this, but it's definitely not just him.
I lived overseas for 21 years, and I just got used to it by seeing it every day. I like how our local @npr.org station will sometimes give the weather in Fahrenheit and Celsius. If everyone did that, both systems would become natural to use.
I wouldn’t expect any North American to truly understand the constant low-level frustration that comes with the billion paper-cuts that all stem from ‘America is the default country’.
An American using the American measurement system they use every day?! Inconceivable! How dare they use the system they use and not go out of their way to convert it to my system which they do not use! The shock! The horror! Won't someone please think of the children?!
And THAT’s when it is at its most grueling, when the WORLD beyond the US of A has its oven graduated in °C.
This is followed by American weather reports to the rest of the world which use only °F.
I always hated the whole unit superiority thing. It feels like people use it as an excuse to feel superior. All units convert to other units, and Google can do most of them. Units are designed to be convenient for purpose. Metric does science, imperial does daily life. We drop what we don't need.
More context: A gallon ... is a really convenient amount of liquid. A decent amount, but still easily carried. Dividing by 2, 3, and 4 is something the human brain does really well, whereas 10 is ... not. Incidentally, this is also why baking by the dozen is still a thing. It's just what's useful.
Incidentally, in machining, 1 thou is a good unit of precision. 10 thou is metrology level precise. 1 thou = 25.4 micron, and 10 thou = 2.54. When a unit falls near your goal region, that's convenient.
And yet people have some weird need to feel superior, and use stuff like this as a platform for it. Meanwhile, nothing is ever better than anything unless you know the purpose. Better ... for what?
I could go to the store right now and buy one for like $15. It takes an extra minute or two because we're on 120v instead of 240v, but that's not what you said. You said "If America has (sic) kettles" and "100% it doesn't" which is wrong
If you have purchased a device to boil water and it requires you to input an exact temperature instead of simply heating the water until it boils you have wasted your money.
Belonging to a culture were a certain beverage needs to be brewed with water at a temperature somewhat lower than boiling, inputting the temperature is super convenient. I understand you don't need it, but it doesn't mean that it's a waste of money for someone else.
I do not care about who uses what system, I care about which system is better, and it's fahrenheit. You literally never need to care about what temperature fresh water boils at in day to day life. If the water is boiling you will see it boiling.
Fahrenheit is perfect for just one group of people: the people born with it. And that’s nothing wrong about that. But let the rest of the world do their own thing. You will never convince others. Ever.
celsius? why on earth did you give the temperature in celsius?! what am i gonna do with that information? clearly i need the temperature in kelvin so i have a good idea of how hot or cold something is
Next time, after stating the temperature in Fahrenheit, also convert it to Rankine with no further explanation. I’m curious if that would make them actually look it up.
Nah, baking by mass is superior. Did I pack my cup of flour to the same density as the recipe intended? 🤷 compared to 120 grams is 120 grams. (The Celsius zealots are wrong)
And if you are just mixing everything (like putting flour and stuff for a dough) — you can get by with just one bowl. Just put it on a scale, and add things one by one looking at a reading. Compared to using a measuring cup that gets dirty after everything it's a bliss
(I guess relevant thing is: I don't leave those comments, but I see where they're coming from. Often I just don't have means to convert as I'm watching while cooking etc, and as such cannot parse the number.)
since f/c conversion is not just a simple division, i believe it’s only fair to have that on the video (as long as it’s not -40). and it’s not that big of an effort when you compare the whole energy one puts on the production itself. for instance joshua weissman always puts units in both systems
Thankfully TC also usually puts both, especially when it matters.
He tends to slack a bit more on "no effort november" but I do get the gimmick somewhat.
The “especially when it matters” is the important bit to me. It seems he does indeed that, and when he doesn’t it’s because you don’t actually need an intimate understanding of the exact number, but notice a distinct difference or whatever.
I think for me it's still hard to parse the magnitude of the distinct difference ("ok it's changed by 15°F, but how much is that again?"), but I can definitely parse that a change happened.
Adam Ragusea also tends to mention both temperatures, and even clarifies (sometimes humorously) if grill/broiler is to be turned on. Mentioning a word in US and UK English is part of the fun (and the learning, which as a non native speaker, I appreciate!) of Adam's videos.
I feel more and more that the internet trolls are winning with Alec. He's becoming bitter about more topics that he qualifies as "someone complaining in the comments" and putting less and less thought into things. Still remember him dismissing heat pump dryers because "they only have them in Europe"
...when did I dismiss heat pump driers? You are thinking of something else, I love them. I just don't have one myself, and at the time I made the video there were very few available here in the US.
If we're going to be real, this is why I get frustrated. People hear things I don't say.
My point is don't get emotionally invested in people getting things wrong. I'm sorry if I have (will rewatch), but statistically people are not smart, and you've got a big audience. Trust yourself and let other people be stupid. These feelings only gonna cloud your life, IMO
If you put it in terms of wasted time, the YouTuber wastes one minute looking up the conversion and putting it in the video, while 100k viewers waste 69.44 days cumulatively looking it up.
Also, looking it up interrupts the flow of the video.
About the comments, complaining can be fun.
There was a proposed time system that had exactly 100,000 metric seconds in a day, and 100 metric seconds in a metric minute, and 100 metric minutes in a metric hour. It didn't catch on, however.
Yards on highway signs? Now that's esoteric! As odd as the inconsistency in the imperial system is, at least the scale of the units used makes a lot of sense. Measuring things in centimeters is kinda useless, they're just too small of a scale, at least for non-prescision applications
The yards in signs thing is to be fair normally only a warning, e.g. give way 100 yards out there countdowns to junctions on motorways from 300 too 100. They could be replaced by metres and it would make no practical difference.
@techconnectify.bsky.social Obviously there needs to be a vocal community attacking the unnecessary use of Celsius and returning the world to the sanity of Fahrenheit.
Doubt I'd ever give a thought to someone's choice to use C or F because I instantly know close enough on either. In life I predominantly use the C scale for work but prefer using Fahrenheit for matters of comfort.
I moved to the US a while ago and still don't understand. I also don't need to know what 300 F is because I can't conceptualize temperatures over boiling anyways.
I would never dare to complain to you about something in Fahrenheit (because I love what you produce, thanks!). But it is super annoying to look it up, because I often multitask when watching videos, so it really breaks the flow a lot. Specially so if it's a few values spread over time. 🥲
Also, it's super easy to guestimate. Subtract 32 and divide by 2. It's not a perfect conversion, but it's good enough for understanding Fahrenheit in terms of Celsius.
It's not like US schools drill us on conversion formulas. But that process takes like 30 secs to learn.
The steps I gave are ridiculously simple and easy to do in one's head. Rather than comment complaints about not being handed a conversion, it takes like 2 seconds to do the conversion yourself.
It seems to me that those who intend to continue watching American-made videos should consider building the habit (or bookmarking an online converter and chilling out about it).
It's nice and convenient! If you want °C, you don't have to remember that pesky "freezing temperature in Fahrenheit" or what the order of operations is; you just scale straight to K and then subtract the 273.15° you know by heart!
And for °F, it's -459.67, or "4 to 7 straight with a 9 in the middle"
I love the channels that convert into completely insane but "real" units (often different ones each time) just to annoy everyone. There's several doing it now, I think. Especially the makers and machinists.
As long as the unit is there, I don't really care, because as you said the conversion is easy. I appreciate you putting the conversion on screen tho, because it doesn't interrupt my attention that way.
However, I do like to "complain" to my US friends because it's easy to tease them with it.
"Metric is better than Imperial!"
You're right. But against the face of widespread usage of Imperial in the US, your argument is irrelevant when consuming material for US audiences.
The solution is simple - always provide temperature in Kelvin. That way you ensure you upset both usual commenters - and you also teach them both how to use a search engine. 🤣
In future it may be useful for accessibility to say "F" or "fahrenheit" instead of just "degrees". If someone's brain is trained to celsius, hearing "300 degrees" they will automatically assume celsius, just like we assume fahrenheit. (Especially if they aren't or can't see the visual cues)
Yeah good point. We wouldn't want someone to confuse 300 degrees F (really hot) for 300 degrees C (really hot) when trying to communicate that a space heater was putting out really hot air.
Talk about the biggest mountain out of the smallest molehill ever.
Celsius is really useful for keeping track of physical processes that involve water, which includes many, many important things. But the size of the degree is kind of absurd. The difference between a really uncomfortable room and a comfortable one should not be a mere 10 degrees.
The incessant bitching about Fahrenheit is wild to me. If people want so badly to watch an American-made video, they can learn to convert just like Americans learned (in school!) to convert between F and C. If that’s a deal breaker, then don’t watch American-made videos.
I will never tire of the people who drive-by skeet not having any context just wanting to yell the popular argument at the top of their lungs. It's unfortunate you have to read them.
If one can write negative youtube comments complaining, then that person has the power to write positive youtube comments that do the conversion so other people don't feel the need to complain.
Then ya watch them complain anyway for... reasons.
For the benefit of non-US folk, please for the love of Satan stop calling our units -imperial-, because imperial units are different from US customary units, especially in the liquid measuring department. A US gallon is not an imperial gallon.
People who complain about Americans using Fahrenheit instead of Celsius, saying we're selfish and self centered, are being very selfish and self centered themselves. I can acknowledge they use a different system. God forbid they acknowledge we use a different one. It's not always about them.
what these replies don’t understand is that you’re also an american making videos about largely american electronics and energy standards !! this isn’t even about america-centrism, since international appeal is not core to the function of your videos
The deeply entitled arrogance of the Metric user cannot be overstated. America MUST continue to use the Customary system purely to keep them humble. Let them lie awake at night seething that the mightiest empire the world has ever known doesn't care a fig for their "Decimalized units."
I love the content but this can also be said about implementing Celsius and kg in textformat in the video itself. Ain't that big of a hassle, especially that those measurements are used everywhere else in the world outside of the USA.
To everyone complaining, you know you could just learn some common conversions, right? Very useful if you ever work in an international company have to make small talk.
Memorize 0 – 40 C in 5 C steps (you can mentally interpolate the rest) and you’ll be covered for most discussions.
That's a terrible idea, half the exponent values could never happen because there's no way to measure temps under the Planck temp.
If you're going to do something like this you may as well scale it so ε is the Planck temp since it's the smallest measurable quantity in both.
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0C = 32F (I think everyone knows this one)
20C = 68F
37C ~= 99F (body temperature)
40C = 104F
Like I'm aware that "just google it" becomes steadily worse advice by the day but c'mon. This is still basic enough they can't be arsed to mess it up.
Converting Celsius is marginally easier because there's no magnitude conversion.
Allow me to introduce Rankine...
Boy, the Internet never changes.
Other: "Scientifically, you can use different units of measure depending on WHAT it is you are measuring and WHY"
Celsius Users: "No"
I guess primary-fahrenheit people just... Look it up? Or maybe don't care I guess that's also an option
For anything fiddlier, I have google...
I know C is better. I know C is for science.
But there’s no excuse for the amount of annoying some of the people are over a single instance of F.
I don't know why anyone needs to complain about them.
Love your content, despite the antiquated measurements.
Chryosran22 videos are the worst about this, but it's definitely not just him.
This is followed by American weather reports to the rest of the world which use only °F.
those numbers in the middle mean nothing to us, partly also because comfortable temps depend on humidity, personal taste and season.
But I agree that as a unit that humans would relate to in their every day experience, Fahrenheit makes a little more sense.
Embrace the light, metric is inevitable.
Also recently started weighing pasta/rice to do portions, and I cannot recommend it enough. No weird heuristics, bang-on every time.
you can do 30 seconds of conversion and put it in the script so that (tens of? hundreds of?) thousands save on a 30 second conversion themselves.
He tends to slack a bit more on "no effort november" but I do get the gimmick somewhat.
Also it’s honestly quite funny to me
If we're going to be real, this is why I get frustrated. People hear things I don't say.
My point is don't get emotionally invested in people getting things wrong. I'm sorry if I have (will rewatch), but statistically people are not smart, and you've got a big audience. Trust yourself and let other people be stupid. These feelings only gonna cloud your life, IMO
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Found only the video about energy savings where heat pump dryers are promoted.
Also, looking it up interrupts the flow of the video.
About the comments, complaining can be fun.
Suffffffer!
We also measure distance as time.
But I'd call a single instance a forgivable slip.
To go the other way, just double and add 32.
The steps I gave are ridiculously simple and easy to do in one's head. Rather than comment complaints about not being handed a conversion, it takes like 2 seconds to do the conversion yourself.
Same as me with English, I picked it up very easily, but I live among people that barely passed those classes in school.
And for °F, it's -459.67, or "4 to 7 straight with a 9 in the middle"
However, I do like to "complain" to my US friends because it's easy to tease them with it.
You're right. But against the face of widespread usage of Imperial in the US, your argument is irrelevant when consuming material for US audiences.
Talk about the biggest mountain out of the smallest molehill ever.
NB: There's an entire site where you can do conversions between 73 different scales.
https://www.curiousnotions.com/temperature-converter/
Then ya watch them complain anyway for... reasons.
Memorize 0 – 40 C in 5 C steps (you can mentally interpolate the rest) and you’ll be covered for most discussions.
If you're going to do something like this you may as well scale it so ε is the Planck temp since it's the smallest measurable quantity in both.
It's for rough measurements, like *really* rough. To the nearest billion Kelvin :D