They're in a concentration camp. There are no appeals. There are no watchdogs to make sure prisoners aren't mistreated. It's one big crime against humanity, starting with the complete lack of due process for ANYONE.
23.5 hours a day they’re in a standing room only group cell. They get to come out to the area between cells for .5 hours of group exercises. They never go outside. No labor or other activities.
Under the state of exception that lives El Salvador, they don't have constitutional guarantees, no lawyers no calls, the area around the prison does not have mobile coverage is an isolated place even to get there on road for in and out heavily guarded by the army
Geez, you’re right. In my head I forgot that he came here and was allowed to stay here because an El Salvadoran gang was likely to kill him if he were deported in the first place years ago. Everyone who sent him and everyone who says they don’t need to bring him back has blood on their hands
Bukele has said the labor they force them and the other prisoners to do will cover the cost of the entire prison system which he said costs $200 million to operate.
No surprise! Per "Caste" by Wilkinson, the NAZIs wanted to LEGALLY kill minorities & Jews (& take their money) so they instituted Jim Crow laws! They found LEGAL oppression & murder in the US South!
NAZIs=White Supremacists=US South Jim Crow!
The seeds of Hitler's genocide germinated in the USA!
Hitler was also heavily inspired by Henry Ford’s tome of books that he had had translated from English and sent all over the world; “The International Jew”.
Hitler even had a life size portrait of Ford on the wall behind the desk in his office.
Hitler himself spoke to a Detroit Newsreporter in Munich in 1931 from an office that featured a large portrait of Ford. As McGraw recounts, "I regard Henry Ford as my inspiration," Hitler said.
I just listened to lawyers for Bulwark say that SCOTUS's ruling in the case of the Maryland man will determine their fate, so that case has higher stakes and worse arguments by the gov.
Do you really think that Trump and the psychopaths around him remotely care about any courts? There is zero chance of any of them being held to account. Trump can revel in his sadistic cruelty without a hint of concern about facing consequences. He's going to get much much worse.
We might be missing something. The whole deportation reasoning makes little to no sense. So what would given what we know?
A) He’s ingratiating himself with two other dictators in this hemisphere. He wants to be a real dictator and have other dictators respect him. Rounding up and handing 1/2
over 189 individuals that are considered political dissidents to both the Maduro and Bukele regimes, would go a long ways towards being accepted into that club.
B) Buying Maduro and Bukele’s help with invading Panama.
He’s transactional. This is more than likely the quid of an unknown quo. 2/2
Also, do we know if everyone sent to CECOT so far was over 18? Trump's AEA declaration included minors 14 and older. Are they actually going to send MINORS???
They sent seven women. If they can’t be bothered to confirm that the random victims they gathered to send to a labor camp for men are even actually men, they probably won’t bother to check ages either. (El Salvador sent the women back to ICE.)
Keep in mind also that a massacre took place in El Salvador in the 1930s that was every bit as brutal as Babi Yar, the most lethal pogrom of the Holocaust.
They never go outside, get no exercise. Trump needs to rot in hell for this. The business as usual tone of the majority SCOTUS ruling has left me pretty shaken.
Just because it's not a gas chamber doesn't mean it's not murder.The flight attendants on the deportation flights have been ordered to, in an emergency, NOT help the shackled prisoners to save their lives.
This will happen to our vulnerable populations too, if the regime gets their way. Taking away healthcare and food assistance; what else could one conclude is the goal? 💔😡
Most likely they are sent to this prison specifically to be murdered by the prisoners/guards. This is a test run for killing “dissenting” citizens, and they are seeing what they can get away with. Chances are the men they sent are already dead.
23.5 hours a day they’re in a standing room only group cell. They get to come out to the area between cells for .5 hours of group exercises. They never go outside. No labor or other activities.
I don't believe there's a single person out there who doesn't think he'll start deporting American citizens to El Salvador soon. Anyone who denies it is secretly in favor but doesn't want to give away the game yet.
The announcement of mandatory homeless camps was swept under the rug already. I'm no expert here... but that does not seem good! Just ship off for slave labor anybody he deems unworthy... that's a slippery slope.
US is exporting slave labor, that's all there is to it. It isn't a sentence, as no judiciary was involved. They rounded up groups of people and sold them into slavery.
They're not. The never even got a hearing, let alone a sentence. That's abduction and human trafficking, aka disappearing - it's a repetition of what other dictatorial regimes do and have done in the past.
Yeah, literally. It's as good as a domestic execution if their family has no hope of seeing them again. And for what? Having tattoos? Speaking out for Palestine?
No process, no evidence, no trial, no lawyer, no charges, no verdict, no sentence. Just indefinite detention in unknown conditions because you're the wrong type of person, like Auschwitz.
I believe that if the movement expands enough
a large enough protest can effectively shut down the country.
The purpose of protests before this event are to build the movement.
They spread awareness and when large enough apply pressure.
They give elected leaders on our side some leverage.
I think it was a warning! We need to up our game for sure. Hope there’s a huge turnout for the 19th which could very well be our last day before marshal law.
These are life sentences unless a different president can negotiate release, which would likely cost millions. We should be horrified. It can now happen to anyone. Shoot first, ask questions later is the go-to so they can delay and get away with anything.
I’m thinking for many it was not life sentences but death sentences.. Which will most likely be the case for those also sent by mistake (which was like 75% of them) and why the White House along with the corrupt Nazis on the Supreme Court are trying to cover it up by overruling other courts orders.
Yup. These poor abducted individuals must be having meltdowns trying to fathom how one minute they were walking down the street and now their life as they knew it may be over. And they don't know if, how. or why. Beyond cruel.
Those people will be worked to death, tossed into a communal grave and forgotten. Such is the nature of the Nazi. I have no doubt that anonymity is in the contract.
Yep, there’s no justice, no due process no innocent until proven guilty. You know who I’ve really feel sorry for all those service men that aren’t there.
DUE PROCESS is written into the Constitution for EVERY person on US soil, regardless of their status. These deportations are both illegal and unConstitutional. And given that this administration has refused to bring back innocent victims even with a court order... I assume it's for life.
How did the US legally farm out prison time to foreign countries? If the people deported were criminals, (but no one knows due to lack of due process), the US has plenty of prisons.
Some countries refuse acceptance of deportees. It does not bother me too much if they get sent to a secondary, nearby country, they can find their own way home from there. I object to sending them to foreign prisons.
I'm afraid the man they admitted as a "clerical error" is already dead 😢 I feel like they are refusing to bring him back because they can't and don't want ppl to know that they are guilty for sending him to the grave. I truly hope I'm wrong - but why fight so hard after admitting the mistake??
For the sake of his wife & child, I have to hold out hope that a writ of habeas corpus will produce a live body, not a dead one. And, by writ of habeas corpus, I mean, give the fuckers whatever money it takes to get him back. And take it out of the Felon's bank account. If that's empty, from Elon.
Every member of this administration involved must be sent to The Hague. They must stand trial and American courts cannot be trusted. Number one priority of the next administration must be that this never, ever happens again
No, they didn't. *We* didn't... I just read an old book about a police unit being sent to Poland to shoot Jews in 1942. Just normal policemen. Most of them did it. Barely anyone was punished after the war. The US would find willing killers too. Don't let that happen, please.
Those are life sentences I cannot believe that there is not legal procedures to retrieve those guys. They had not committed crimes in El Salvador even if they are Salvadorian, with green card or USA citizens, they should be released
That El Salvador dungeon serves as Trump's Tower of London. It's a place to send all of his opponents to be tortured & terrorized. All due process is denied. Any of us can be grabbed. Our Founders banned this in the USA. They knew the history. Trump absolutely loves it, as do his right-wing fans.
They're slaves now. You don't need a trial to force someone into slavery. If you want to stop this then a lot of us are gonna need to get a gun and be willing to lose everything.
Hailey, are you trying to say that the Jews were given trials? Or are you talking about the Nazi trials at Nuremberg? Those were anti-Nazi. Because the vast majority of Jews had no trial.
Hailey, YOU need to RE read the article again and practice YOUR crtical thinking skills. Judge Millet said "Nazis got better treatment" NOT Jews. You should have learned this in H.S. anyway and you wouldn't be so confused by one quote in one article.
Yeah, it turns out businessmen from the 1700s who hated paying taxes didn't create a foolproof system of government, especially when it comes to preventing abuse from businessmen who don't wanna pay taxes.
For-profit (private) prisons must sign contracts that include specific requirements for the basic treatment and care of prisoners. Has anyone requested to see the agreement made with El Salvador?
How can a president condemn someone to a 'hellhole' after taking an oath to defend the Constitution, which, according to the Eighth Amendment, prohibits cruel and unusual punishments?
Given Trump says he 'cannot' get them back it means its a death camp. America grabbed up men with tats and flew them to disappear in El Salvador. A life of slave labor, death. No trial and no sentence. Game over. We did that. America. And when we are vanquished, it is us the American people who pay
I mean think about it. We give El Salvador a chuck of money and a plane full of men. There is no ongoing payment for their confinement. It was a lump sum. Those men of value will be used but if they wanted to they could just execute them all. Maybe they did so that's why they cant be returned.
There is a reason the Nazis built the extermination camps in Poland. Even having full dictatorial control they felt they needed to hide the mass murder and keep the fiction of work camps.
Once you are sent to a place like CECOT, you might breathe, your heart might beat, and you might have electrical energy passing through your nervous system but you aren’t LIVING. Any semblance to a normal life is over.
Their prison “term” or “lease” is 1 year with the option to renew indefinitely. They’re in a forced labor prison camp until we stop paying(?) or they die.
Can you imagine even a day in that place? Every single day the US does not get the released in a new crime. There is no way to undo this. Even if they had been released at midnight they might never have recovered. And a judge honestly thinks there is a reason to hold off on bringing them home?
Yes. Those men will never see daylight again. They are there for the rest of their lives. Bukele has no intention of ever releasing them. The only way they will leave CECOT is if they're dead. And Trump said today he now wants to start sending US citizens to these El Salvador prisons. Terrifying.
They are death sentences with no due process and his Homeland Sec paraded around like this is ok — the reason the world needs to break from America is because it is a nation full of nazis (‘I did not speak out’)
When all is said and done when righteousness prevails, there will be trails for those in the POTUS47 regime who conducted such crimes against humanity in the name of "MAGA" and every person sent away will be returned unconditionally and they will be made whole.
Honestly not even that. They are just Hispanic migrants with random tattoos exiled to permanent slavery and potentially worse. And our tax dollars pay for it.
I know, I've been following the news on a few that have been trafficked to the El Salvador death camp, like the soccer player with a Madrid team tattoo, to one with an autism awareness tat...that had rainbow colours...obvious why they targeted that one...
No. Without due process, it was just a sale of human cargo. Don’t even bring law into this as a suggestion, the U.S. President blatantly sold people to another nation
Life, or more likely death sentences, without any due process. I think the deportees are already dead. In my wildest imagination, Kristi Noem has been executing them during her visits. Maybe they let them loose and she gets to hunt them down, like a hunting preserve?
They are “indefinite”. The actual sale price included a one year term, to be renegotiated pending the detainees’ status determinations. However, the US will not pay again to maintain their incarceration, so at that point, the men are owned outright by El Salvador. Perhaps slave labor? Unknown paths!
Right! No sentencing! I said to myself, if they can’t get someone back within a week, what chance is there after months? What is the end game of this system? Seems like he should have to have laid out a plan to address legal remedy!
It’s horrific on so many levels. It’s guilty until proven innocent, without a chance to prove your innocence, and the punishment being an automatic life sentence served in a place that openly tortures everyone incarcerated there. I can’t believe we share a country with people who think this is ok.
Based upon what I've read, no one ever leaves CECOT until they die. What happens if we fail to pay El Salvador after a year? I do not think that means El Salvador frees them.
Those are kidnapped people in El Salvador, just like you rightfully stated. Kidnap Victims get no trial or guarantee of release, prisoners in El Salvador are afforded less, unfortunately.
This shit has gone on for twenty years, except that was for "suspected terrorists", (many of whom were random guys on the street in Afghanistan, Iraq or somewhere). Now they are getting snatched off the street in America and it's "suspected gang members".
It was an unofficial slave trade.
Those people are never coming back, and it won’t even be investigated in-depth until someone sufficiently famous or adored by GOP stooges gets sent there.
So I was thinking if we could get them to send Andrew Tate…
The SCOTUS need to be reformed, they should be elected, not appointed to be tools of the President, that's not checks and balances. And the Honor System has to go - THEY are above the law and made the President a KING - they HAVE no honor
Elected judges aren't always any more honorable than other politicians. The SCOTUS judges are nominated by the Presidents, but have to go through a congressional confirmation (in which they lie. They also lie a lot afterwards).
Term limits might help, but I'd set it at 15 minutes maximum.
You're right - the highest court in the land has member who lied under oath. But I still think it's more fair to vote rather than be chosen and beholden to the President. That undermines the court if you ask me. And there should be written requirements background checks not the honor code.
I have been trying to get an answer to this without success. What are the terms of the foreign detentions that our tax dollars are buying for these people?
Yes. This is not deportation, and we should stop using that word. It is kidnapping. Or you could also call it human trafficking I think. Either fits from what I’ve seen and read so far.
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Sounds like a literal slave labor camp if you ask me.
No one has ever left CECOT. The El Salvadorian government does not plan to release anyone from CECOT.
We don't know the details of the agreement between the US and El Salvador, but how much detention does the $6M payment cover?
THEY'RE DEAD.
There's not going to be more money.
They're either buried in a hole with bullet holes, or turned to ash.
they are condemning these people to spend the rest of their lives in hell.
23.5 hours a day they’re in a standing room only group cell. They get to come out to the area between cells for .5 hours of group exercises. They never go outside. No labor or other activities.
They're already dead, people
They're monsters and they must be stopped.
They were ALL sent to be killed. They're all in a hole under dirt, if they're lucky.
NAZIs=White Supremacists=US South Jim Crow!
The seeds of Hitler's genocide germinated in the USA!
Hitler was also heavily inspired by Henry Ford’s tome of books that he had had translated from English and sent all over the world; “The International Jew”.
Hitler even had a life size portrait of Ford on the wall behind the desk in his office.
Below grade level work.
https://www.cjr.org/united_states_project/dearborn-historian-independent-henry-ford.php
I think those are crimes, regardless of who you're doing it to...
Amazing how many people don't know that.
Just saying….
Who will enforce it?
The Trump admin will just ignore the ruling and keep doing whatever they want.
And Schumer won't do a thing until Trump's poll numbers are low enough.
don't believe i've read anywhere (has a journo asked?) what happens to them after a year.
#DirtySCOTUS
Any bets they were never read their rights?
That’s where we are
A) He’s ingratiating himself with two other dictators in this hemisphere. He wants to be a real dictator and have other dictators respect him. Rounding up and handing 1/2
B) Buying Maduro and Bukele’s help with invading Panama.
He’s transactional. This is more than likely the quid of an unknown quo. 2/2
They're probably already dead.
Also, do we know if everyone sent to CECOT so far was over 18? Trump's AEA declaration included minors 14 and older. Are they actually going to send MINORS???
What are the chances this charnel house "prison" is providing adequate nutrition and medical care?
23.5 hours a day they’re in a standing room only group cell. They get to come out to the area between cells for .5 hours of group exercises. They never go outside. No labor or other activities.
Cold veggies, warm meat, and cronch.
And a mess.
Normally, no, and I would say it along with you but... are you lost?
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Buttdial?
People really need to wake up. No, the protest didn't /do/ anything.
He is warming up a fucking aushwitz in gitmo.
How did anyone think protest was even close to enough
Those poor fkers are already dead.
a large enough protest can effectively shut down the country.
The purpose of protests before this event are to build the movement.
They spread awareness and when large enough apply pressure.
They give elected leaders on our side some leverage.
Nicknamed "The Hague Invasion Act" from 2002.
And some people really thought the US was an ally even before this dumpster fire.
Renewal based on future US determination of "disposition." trump won't pay again, so yes, a life sentence. A VERY SHORT life sentence.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-pay-el-salvador-jail-300-alleged-gang-members-ap-reports-2025-03-15/
Imposed by whom?
sense then the bs
reasons about jurisdiction and was
going to be deported somewhere anyway.
I hope we are wrong. What a message.
It's like the mob runs the government now.
have always been in
charge and kept the
world turning.I trusted they knew best.
Now I'm old and watching people younger than me
trying to disrupt
the smooth rotation
of said world.
Salvadoran prisons are the sticky traps!
Do you have an extraction team to offer?
Anyone?
Bueller?
😱😱😱😱😱🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
True statement 👇Trump made
They don't care.
Anyone with masks and a van can do this. Someone must know of a remote inaccessible location.
Leave no paper or electronic trail.
No ransom demands; only silence.
Y'all voted for gulags and y'all did it in the name of Christ.
That's it, that's all there is to it.
if so hopefully its for trump's life not theirs
No one is ever released
Drop em in a hole forever
Oh this is going SO well-I am positively ORGASMIC!
Deport first. Ask questions never.
My breakdown of this ruling is here: https://friendomedia.com/f/yes-the-supreme-court-just-gave-trump-the-power-to-disappear-you
There's a first time for everything.
But TRUMP THE FELON IS SITTING FREE IN OUR WH!
This is now Trump Maga criminal world!? WTF!
There's no return policy on trafficked humans. Trump is turning America into the Axis of evil.
And of course, at least until they can milk it for photo ops by having the prisoners forced to display themselves as background.
I read the 6 million paid was for a year per El Salvador
Those people are never coming back, and it won’t even be investigated in-depth until someone sufficiently famous or adored by GOP stooges gets sent there.
So I was thinking if we could get them to send Andrew Tate…
Assuming they survive that long doing forced hard labour.
So basically they're detained at Bukele's pleasure, to use a British term.
Here's the SCOTUS ruling it's all cool:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25882756-24a931-order/
Term limits might help, but I'd set it at 15 minutes maximum.