She was doing so well, at first, and then someone, or a few someones, gave her terrible advice. Tim Walz was a huge asset, and she traded him for Liz Cheney. Why? Made zero sense to me.
We can't learn and grow until we accept what failed. And by refusing to understand and accept that the plan the Dems had in 2024 was an utter failure, they'll continue to make the same mistakes. You don't clean a house by sweeping dust under the rug.
I agree. However, we needed to do it after the loss in November. Seven weeks into this nightmare and whining about if/why Walz was muzzled does nothing but cause infighting.
We shouldn’t run anything other than a Bernie Sanders-type this time around. Angry, populist. I don’t think the Harris campaign was bad. You lose many points due to racism and sexism, so just being good isn’t enough.
Hey, you know that thing that gave you a lot of positive coverage and probably got you the running-mate slot? Yeh, stop it, we need to make space for that war criminal from 20 years ago and his daughter!
To be fair, when you have unlimited money, the Press ready to denigrate your opponent every day , and a cult following it’s a wonder it was even close. I honestly believe she did not lose every swing state.
I thought they did OK. They tried to explain how dangerous Project 2025 was, how stupid tariffs are and the conservative’s inherent authoritarianism. I don’t think anybody was listening.
I’m skeptical of these sorts of stories just like I am of ones where Biden supposedly boxed in Harris. Biden chose Harris not only as his running mate but also as his successor. He didn’t want her to trash his admin but that was in her interest too.
I definitely didn’t think Walz sucked at the debate. Vance was able to deliver lies in a more convincing manner than expected but I didn’t think he excelled in any meaningful way.
I disagree. About the only point I’ll concede is that his style isn’t adapted for the WWF chair throwing charades that MAGA now comes to believe are the new norm for debates.
I loved Tim Walz and I’d eagerly support him in a primary race if he throws his hat in the ring in 2028. Since we can’t seat Bernie Sanders in the Oval Office at this point Walz ranks alongside AOC and Jasmine Crockett as the kind of Democratic Party voice I want to hear.
Oops. My internet connection went wonky and I kept trying to post, resulting in it posting the same reply repeatedly when I finally connected. I deleted all the misfires, but if you see a bunch of “message deleted” posts that’s not a bunch of random trolling. Just a user error.
1) You're better than this. Harris was thrown head-first into the candidacy, with no time to prepare. Equally true, Biden shouldn't have tried to run. There would have been a primary process. It's anyone's guess whether Harris would have emerged as the candidate.
2) She doesn't deserve this sort of self-serving analysis, and Walz was hardly a ball of fire the few times he did show up. Now, he sees an opportunity, so he's taking his shots, but Harris deserves thanks, not hind-sight shots to her back.
Thanks for what? Being nothing more than Biden 2.0? Nah, she deserves all the criticism she gets for the decisions she made with her campaign. The reason Dem pols keep doing the same shit over and over again is because so many Dem voters treat the party like a cult.
1) She was thrust into that. Even if she were horrible, she did the best she could. Even if it were deplorable (and I don't think it was) she deserves gratitude and thanks for doing as well as she did. 7,000,000 votes were lost over the 2020 Biden total. If you think that was due to Harris, I'd
2) like some of whatever you're smoking. That's a brand problem, not a candidate one.
Harris was a makeshift candidate. That's like blaming Joey Lucchesi for not being Jacob deGrom. The party's to blame here. It hid Biden's deterioration. Had it been known,
3) he couldn't have run, there'd have been primaries, and those primary campaigns sharpen the successor national one. If there had been a normal selection process, Harris would probably not have won. Blaming her for the party's problems doesn't wash.
it’s amazing how many normal people recognized this while the consultant class dismissed it. there was a real shift in the discourse when everybody started calling republicans “weird”. my local qanon trumpers on facebook were obviously put on the back foot & playing defense. historic fumble
Walz is a great human. He is humble. He owns his mistakes, even if others contributed error in much bigger ways.
“We, as a party, are more cautious” in engaging…Walz said…”in football parlance, we were in a prevent defense to not lose when we never had anything to lose because…we were ever ahead.”
THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN, DON'T BELIEVE ME LISTEN TO Nathan Taylor from the Election Truth Alliance (ETA) discusses potential election result discrepancies on The Mark Thompson Show on YouTube. The ETA is a non-partisan organization focused on verifying election integrity through audits!!!
I saw what trump did the first time. I listened to him. We had an easy choice. It was between an adjudicated rapist & convicted felon and the VP behind Joe who for 4 years was a decent woman. Good campaign or not, frankly, I would have voted for just about anyone over trump.
Seriously - if trump were just a regular (say, Romney) Republican or if republicans had a different candidate, this would be a different discussion. I thought others recognized the threat of an insurrectionist felon but guess not
Yeah I think the Dems banked on that too. I also think they should've picked another candidate. No pun towards Harris, but she did badly in just 2020. The party also isolated some people inasmuch as pubs, but for totally different reasons.
Was Harris the perfect candidate? No. Did Joe wait too long? Probably. But we all had seen what trump was, how could anyone think voting for him a 2nd time was a good idea?! And those that didn't vote at all? I blame them too for this mess. I'd have voted for anyone other than him.
Plus Dems had 4 years to lock🔒him out, some how, from running again with all those lawsuits, convictions, and charges pending, but they did what they're doing right now. That is, business as usual. They fail to rise to the occasion.
I love how everyone is still pretending like this country would vote for a (Black) woman. She could have spoken ad nauseam about Gaza, & it wouldn't have mattered. Let's not pretend like most of the opposirional rhetoric wasn't about her race or who she had sex with. Leftists included.
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Walz doesn’t blame Harris in any of the quotes I read.
"Walz’s assessment of the campaign’s missteps — which he emphasized he also “own[s]” his part in because “when you’re on the ticket and you don’t win, that’s your responsibility”
Excuses excuses. America could have had someone more normal and chose a convict. As simple as that, and nothing, but NOTHING, will redeem Americans for that choice. Harris' laugh? Really? Gaza? Where are the protests? Putin? Still in control of trump. The excuses are the definition of stupidity.
Elitist think they can beat back their Unholy Alliance😂😂😂😂
With what? They still listening to Pelosi & @schumer.senate.gov
@hakeem-jeffries.bsky.social every time you talk you look like you're melting & imitating Donald's hand moves look like a drowning man flailing.
It's been the DNC way since 2016; disappearing Bernie for Hil, diminishing the Squad while keeping the past-use-by-date oldies, keeping lukewarm leaders and suppressing once-promising ones. For what? It's supposed to be the party of many different peoples. Get rid of the script; think big/long.
Given the sexism I heard while phonebanking, having Walz do town halls would have done so much good. It would have definitely moved the needle - especially with male voters leaning to Trump. They would listen to him.
I saw him interacting with some rural Trump voters who were upset with T. on some issue. Can't recall what their issue was, but Walz was just excellent. They had a really good, civil conversation. He understood the issue and spoke with authority. It looked to me like he might have won their vote.
This will sound awful, but in this country, women are still not seen as leaders. Walz as a white man could have done that heavy lifting as he did with those T voters.
I would've loved to see Walz go off, but I don't think a VP makes much difference. The problem was the POTUS candidate and the hand she was dealt. IMO Kamala ran about as good a campaign as she could with no primary, an unpopular incumbents, and 107 days. But she should've never been in that spot.
I liked her policies a lot and also her values. She wasn't a great politician or orator, and you nee to be both those things in a presidential race. And her handlers were fn clueless. Plus Biden kneecapped her to begin with.
Of course, in the end, we all have Bernie's fans to thank for all of it.
More Bernie supporters backed Clinton in 16 than Clinton supporters backed Obama in 08.
Bernie did more campaigning for Clinton in thethe blue wall states than Clinton did. How the F you gonna blame him for her loss?
I find it worthwhile to compare the campaigns that lost to the campaigns they lost to. In both cases, R's and D's had groups w clear, strongly held political priorities and demands (D's w Bernie/Gaza, R's w Tea Party/Trump) Each time D's ignored their loudest political agitators. R's embraced theirs
Furthermore, remember that the tea party predated Trump. Remember that they were a fringe political force—but once again the loudest one—against Obama. The R's from that time ignored them and ran doughy moderates (McCain, Romney) and lost handily. The R's learned from this and the D's never will.
you are quite simply wrong on the facts. sanders voters turned out in bigger numbers for clinton in 2016, than clinton voters did for obama in 2008. not to mention that Bernie himself was by far her most active surrogate once she won the nomination. you’re just completely wrong. they lied to you.
They came around again in 2024 in the form of people protesting the endless (literally, they will never end it and wouldn't even if they had every opportunity to do so) war in Gaza.
So they fucked us in 2016, then came back for a second swing in 2024.
honestly we’ll be better off when old ass centrists like you stop holding us back. you shrug at the genocide in gaza and think the us should be split up. because you don’t think everyone counts the same.
"Fuck you, we'll NEVER stop sending arms to Israel! Take THAT, Bernie bros!" real compelling message, great stuff, I'm sure there's a saying about supporting a genocide to spite your face somewhere
You seemed to know what you were talking about. Then, you so clearly showed you do not. I don't know who you are and never will, but you kinda broke my heart with your broken brain, man.
They had all the momentum, and then they listened to the "experts" and took a hard right. Joe Biden, the DNC and party leaders will own this. And they have just rolled over and wet themselves. #resignjefferies #resignschumer #fjb #fdt
The Swamp is real. The electorate instinctively knows it. The faux protests of Paddle Pop Democrats just goes to prove the point.
Democrats need to reinvent US politics or they are doomed to irrelevance and America to catastrophic failure.
Musk's rockets are a great metaphor for where they're at.
They jumped on a sinking ship. Kamala wasn’t tested and arguably not ready. Biden blew it. And yes campaigns should always be bold. I mean if Haitians eating cats and dogs is a winning strategy that might be a clue to take some risk. Who knew.
I love what Tim Walz was saying and doing. The selection of him as VP greatly increased my enthusiasm for the ticket. I’ll always loathe Dick Cheney. Liz Cheney has done some admirable pushback against Trump but she’ll never be my standard-bearer.
The number of votes moved in the US Presidential election by Biden's policies in the Gazan War is a rounding error. No conceivable change in his policies would have flipped a single state, and Harris would have needed to flip multiple states to win. The entire issue was electorally irrelevant.
The point being that Trump is enormously more hostile to the Palestinian cause than Biden/Harris, but where are the anti-Trump pro-Palestinian protesters? One has to wonder if the GOP was behind a lot of the anti-Biden/Harris pro-Palestinian protests.
Anyone who makes that dude's argument never cared if the war ended to begin with. They just didn't like that it had a negative effect on Biden. Nothing more than sports
The election is exactly why Biden's hands were tied with Gaza...Netanyahu deliberately piled on the warfare knowing if Biden made any attempts to stop him the accusations of being Anti semitic and pro Hamas would be solid gold for trump's campaign and knowing he would cost Harris votes in any event
To the people replying to this "GOP was already calling him everything under the sun": Yes.
Were Biden/Harris still concerned about being called this specific thing? Also yes. Because everyone in Dem leadership is still stuck in the 90s and cannot fathom their opponents are acting in bad faith.
They saw the Republicans screaming about Haitians eating people's pets and still said "You know, maybe we should still worry about offending the sensibilities of the nonexistent moderate-right swing voters. Wouldn't want to give the opposition more ammo, even as they make shit up whole cloth"
Trump and NYtimes were waiting to say “Biden threw Israel under the bus to win Arab votes”. Trump did not need Arab votes to win. He needed them to stop voting for a Democrat. And Trump succeeded.
Exactly right. Netanyahu prolonged the Gaza attacks far beyond what his own defense minister advised--clearly in an effort to damage Harris' election chances.
Trump called him "Palestinian" (as a slur) for even mentioning that Israel was taking things too far. He was already being called antisemitic. The least he could have done is put serious pressure, prevent more deaths, and win some voters. He would be called antisemitic either way
And PLEASE... fellow progressive Dems!.. if Walz runs in 2028 do NOT start grousing publicly about how the Party is now too timid to nominate another woman! Or another Black woman!
I mean you'll be right and all but *STFU*!
Don't give the Nazis any ammunition to call you a "circular firing squad"!
Went south the day they invited known, proven losers from the Labour right to ramp up the populism in order to try and appeal to the MAGAts. It was never going to work.
Harris has always been a cautious campaigner, and speaker. If Biden had not stayed too long we could’ve had a primary. She may have won that and gotten more courageous or someone else would have. This is how it was going to be with her basically inheriting the spot 4 months before the election.
I will never in my life figure out why Harris campaign:
- Kept up with the massively unpopular TikTok ban
- Retreated from Biden's popular student loan relief agenda
- Retreated from Bernie's popular healthcare agenda
- Boosted Cheneys and establishment farts instead of progressives
- Israel
I could be wrong, but I don't think I've seen any other Dems taking ownership of the loss. Seeing “when you’re on the ticket and you don’t win, that’s your responsibility” is one of the more impactful things in that article.
Yes and meanwhile Bernie is traveling around the country explaining to voters what is happening to them as a result of this election. Are any Democrats doing that?
The biggest failure was in not recognising early enough that Biden could not serve another term. There was not enough time to generate consensus around Harris-Walz and get out to sell to the country
…but I don’t think he, as a straight white dude, knew the cancerous and deeply held feelings of racism and misogyny in this country. Those two things killed our chances.
Rolling the dice more couldn’t change the VP’s race or sex.
If Biden hadn’t been so out of touch we might have had a stronger candidate emerge through the primaries, but old Joe left the Party between a rock and a hard place. It might have been Harris, who knows? But Joe dug the hole deep.
It wouldn't have been enough, honestly. Being "nice" doesn't cut it. We needed our party to return to its FDR roots unabashedly and wholeheartedly and also have the courage to stand up against the genocide of our time and our making. I'm done with my party.
I often wonder if the Democrats actually realise who their opponents are. The GOP fucking told us, over & again, with W, with Palin & Joe the plumber, with Obama's birth certificate & the petulant shutdowns, with Fox fucking News, where they were headed.
I have literally spent the past 21 years of my life working in progressive politics and the same consultants who fail over and over again are the ones who the party returns to.
You may have noticed it in journalism too: people whose predictions regularly fail continue to be featured as experts.
They need to take cues from Walz in the response right now instead of the overly scripted stuff those guys are putting out. They are failing entirely to meet this moment.
I think they had too much faith (again) in the American people. Like they thought people knew what tariffs were or just remembered the last time he was POTUS.
This is all on the voters, IMO.
Insanity. Trump's entire campaign was built on preposterous lies that he tripled down on, and the media and public rewarded him for speaking his mind. Tim Walz maybe misspoke twice in his entire life, one of which was about a vacation 35 years earlier, and Dem strategists felt they had to hide him.
If you want to win, focus on what the winning side did. The Republicans leaned in to every criticism of them, which voters saw as strong and principled. The Dems retreated from every criticism, which voters saw as weak and disingenuous.
Kamala was more interested in preserving her pride than doing what it takes to win. I'm doing so she became a fucking embarrassment. There were countless things they should've done differently.
Even if he was boring AF like most of the Democratic establishment, his policies and what he's accomplished in Minnesota is amazing. Those pulling the strings in the campaign really fucked this one up. It sucks even more because he is very likable and charismatic!
We need a new party with the younger Dems: AOC, Crockett, Frost.
Sick of these old Dems with no fight like Durbin, Schumer, and Jeffries.
Get rid of these stupid consultants. Let the candidates be themselves.
Democrats stop swinging after the bell and pay attention to the present and future fights. Learn from past lessons but stop dwelling on it, because it only hinders future progress and blind you to present and the road ahead.
He was an effective communicator and showed that he had the ability to command the news cycle (e.g weird).
Then, it’s obvious that they decided to muzzle him and go after the centre. I’m sure that it brought in some voters, but it likely kept a lot at home too.
They picked him, at least partly, because of his aggressive attitude towards weird-ass Republicans...and then they pretty much forced him to never use that type of aggression again...insanity.
With all due respect, a lot more was working against the Dems in 2024 than “stifling” Tim. Our social media infrastructure is so badly skewed to favor misinformation, and that along with America’s failing moral compass put us in this dilemma. Absolutely love, Tim, though. Hope we see more of him!
You're quite right, but I think the point is, when you're drowning, and swimming seems to be working, it's a bad idea to stop swimming and instead try to tie your shoes and straighten your tie.
The Heritage Foundation literally handed the Harris campaign over 900 pages of ammunition in Project 2025.
And they willfully ran a campaign on "Don't be mean"
Someone over at the DNC and PR firm needs have bricks tied to them and tossed into the Potomac, Thrown into a pit of Komodo dragons !!
I was angry the entire campaign they didn’t forcefully speak up for trans people. I believe Walz would have if they let him. We needed him. It’s very rare that to feel that a politician is genuine.
I knew something was going on when Harris stopped laughing her genuine laugh.
If he’d been the nominee Dems would’ve won. Of course Harris was the only person who could use the money Biden raised but it’s a real shame. Think how different things would be.
Watching from another country I thought he was fantastic — but the. We never seemed to hear from him and it was all celebrities and then Liz Cheney and I thought: ‘Democrats are doing what they always do and then wondering why they lose’.
Tim Walz was a great pick as running mate... and they didn't use him enough. Why they thought that the Cheneys would be better at appealing to swing voters boggles the mind! Did they just forget how hated they are? The Harris campaign should have had him to show an alternative vision to Trumpism!
Yeah, I'd agree "Democratic strategists" are the bane of Democratic campaigning. Why oh why do people like James Carville and David Axelrod get air/microphone time? Their opinions are like herding cats, all over the place (almost like Trump's daily pronouncements).
They started strong, got Harris off to good start, then played it too way safe to win, even when the polls showed trouble. Dems brought that proverbial “knife to the gun fight”.
I think the point is that Dems refuse to use progressive anger and righteousness. It requires ending our reliance on certain funding and allies, and using radical empathy to weld together a base that can jerk around corporations. That’s what the radical right has done by using selfishness.
He is stained by the abject failures of the campaign. His work for democracy needs to be focused in MN. And as a forceful voice for democracy, nationally.
It wouldn't have helped. Nothing would have helped. Why? Because it looks increasingly likely that the tabulators were hacked, moving Democrat votes to Trump and the Republicans. https://youtu.be/AWSWqn7UHYM?si=mJwETfTxd6RFbEOv
By meeting face-to-face and addressing questions directly, they can counter the narratives about a candidate or the Democratic Party that are shaped by misleading information from influencers and podcasters.
Their criticizing his debate performance makes it seem like they didn't read the rest of their own article. He was clearly reigned in and told to play nice with Vance.
I gotta say the most interesting part of this article isn’t that Tim Walz has some critiques it’s the sentence “he emphasized that he’s owning his own part in the loss too”
Interview after interview with strategists and staffers when have you seen anyone own their own part in that loss…
It’s also a good thing for leadership. If he wants to run for President he needs to develop good political instincts, something that is hard to develop I imagine
I think he clearly does have good political instincts.. one tragedy of the Kamala campaign is that they made him the VP nominee because he managed to hit Republicans with that very good “they’re weird” line and the Kamala campaign muzzled him
I’m sure it was tough to be somebody like Walz who is.. I mean a former Congressman but probably not in those insider circles signed on to the Kamala campaign as VP.. I’m sure “his part” boils down to not having the confidence to push for his suggestions to be honest
He didn’t kowtow to the billionaire donor capital class hard enough. All those campaign people need to keep working regardless of who wins. Personal sacrifice for a principle doesn’t exist in most of the DNC.
I love Tim Walz and some of his criticisms may be valid but in the end, too many Americans can't picture a woman as president, much less a Black woman. I'm not positive a straight white Christian man could have defeated a charlatan but I'm positive this country isn't ready to accept a woman.
I'm normally a pessimistic person but I allowed myself to feel optimistic about Harris. I listened to almost all of her speeches. I felt sure that women would come through to avoid a repeat of 2016. I was so wrong. I can't believe we elected a fraud instead of an accomplished public servant.
Same here. But it's easy to underestimate the apathy, narrowmindedness, and obliviousness of the American electorate. Far too many low or zero information voters.
Agreed! That is a major part of the problem. Many people aren't paying attention at all or their *news* is something their friend found online. And they confuse the character Trump played on reality TV with real life.
Walz using “weird” was also popular because people are tired of “elitist” speak. Kamala was extremely qualified, and I was 100% behind her, but she comes off as severely DC. I hate saying this, but she does come off as condescending, and in a country of misogynists, they won’t go for that.
Walz's "weird" was working. It was human. It was viral. It was simple.
The expensive suits that consult the DNC on how to win, (who have never met an actual Democratic voter ever), decided going after 1 Cheney and Democratic neocon was a better target than ordinary working people in Penn State.
Hindsight is 20/20. Let’s put the blame where it belongs. On Republican gerrymandering, voter suppression, disinformation (lying through their teeth) and a racist, sexist smear campaign against Kamala Harris. Democrats can give each other helpful suggestions, but can we stop eating our own, please!
The Dems’ (non)approach to the press is a relict of the Clinton admin. The Cs kept a tight rein on the party. I voted for HRC bec only an organized & disciplined party could match/beat the Rs in governing. But the hate-filled backlash during the C Admin also drove a defensive strategy toward press.
Well, to be fair, it wasn't helped that he was initially forced to explain some exaggerations in his personal story. I think after that, the Harris people didn't trust him enough to let him loose. But as someone who lives in MN, he is very good at rural politics.
The Democratic pollster and donor machines — have misplaced confidence in their expertise on winning elections in the 2020’s. Waltz was muzzled for no reason while Trump was performing fellatio with a microphone at rallies.
I thought some of the best campaign moments were Walz calling Trump and Vance "weird." It was the perfect counter: it allowed them to push forward with an uplifting, hopeful message while still attacking the horrid, anti-worker platform of Trump/Vance and Project 2025.
And it seemed to genuinely bother Trump. He kept bringing it up with that fake "I'm really totally not bothered by this" tone, when you know he's actually seething.
I thought this took place at the first rally after he was announced. I could be wrong on that. I think it was in PA (which is why a lot of people thought Shapiro was her choice).
Can someone tell me who is actually leading the democrats at the moment? Democracy being dismantled and I can’t see anyone leading the party. They are holding up paddles but NO one is on the megaphone as leader every day. Silo spokespeople is not working .
part of the problem is competition. without a president, and pelosi basically out of the picture, we have no shortage of people with tbe ability to lead. but there's nobody at the top. maybe ken martin, but nobody knows about him and he sucks.
maybe dems should just put that on this year's primary
ballot? just ask people to write in who they want in charge of the party? any leader is better than this. even fucking schumer. i'm being serious. at least then they might have voted in line against laken riley for example
I’m sure if I were in the thick of it, I would want to play it safe too. It’s too easy to say after the fact. If they had won, they would have said that playing it safe was exactly right. But the lessons are still there and I hope someone comes to eat the fascists’ lunch. And soon.
Would’ve could’ve should‘be. No one will ever know if this could have made a difference in the outcome. When too many voters choose a candidate because of a single issue or based on lies and misinformation or out of simple selfishness and greed- conventional wisdom need not apply.
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if it was, why did they not fight back?
they should have been prepared, but they took all lying down.
When thd high-paid strategists made him stop, they lost.
*the
And that is the exact opposite of how you win an election.
Walz had a right way of doing it.
This discussion seems like a proxy for the battle of who gets seats at the Democratic table progressives vs. "moderates"
Whoever shut down Walz’s incredibly effective defining of MAGA as “weird”, should never work in politics again.
But he sucked at the debate
Mighta been a good reason
That’s how bad Walz did
Harris was a makeshift candidate. That's like blaming Joey Lucchesi for not being Jacob deGrom. The party's to blame here. It hid Biden's deterioration. Had it been known,
We got the easiest test of our lifetime and utterly failed.
“We, as a party, are more cautious” in engaging…Walz said…”in football parlance, we were in a prevent defense to not lose when we never had anything to lose because…we were ever ahead.”
Newsom was just on a right wing podcast blaming the election loss on trans rights. This party is so cooked.
Walz doesn’t blame Harris in any of the quotes I read.
"Walz’s assessment of the campaign’s missteps — which he emphasized he also “own[s]” his part in because “when you’re on the ticket and you don’t win, that’s your responsibility”
With what? They still listening to Pelosi & @schumer.senate.gov
@hakeem-jeffries.bsky.social every time you talk you look like you're melting & imitating Donald's hand moves look like a drowning man flailing.
https://bsky.app/profile/mehdirhasan.bsky.social/post/3ljv6grhrgc2l
When they go low, sometimes we should *go lower.*
And keeps winning.
Of course, in the end, we all have Bernie's fans to thank for all of it.
Bernie did more campaigning for Clinton in thethe blue wall states than Clinton did. How the F you gonna blame him for her loss?
Bernie and his bots really fucked America good.
Never forget.
So they fucked us in 2016, then came back for a second swing in 2024.
Looking forward to Act III in 2028.
Reality Check: Yes, they boxed in Walz, but also a large percentage of eligible voters “just couldn’t” vote for a woman despite her qualifications. 🫢
https://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/
Democrats need to reinvent US politics or they are doomed to irrelevance and America to catastrophic failure.
Musk's rockets are a great metaphor for where they're at.
Were Biden/Harris still concerned about being called this specific thing? Also yes. Because everyone in Dem leadership is still stuck in the 90s and cannot fathom their opponents are acting in bad faith.
fuck this pretzel logic, biden is a rabid zionist (this is a very consistent part of his political record over decades), simple as
I mean you'll be right and all but *STFU*!
Don't give the Nazis any ammunition to call you a "circular firing squad"!
How can you do that?? And Dems did it not once BUT TWICE!!
- Kept up with the massively unpopular TikTok ban
- Retreated from Biden's popular student loan relief agenda
- Retreated from Bernie's popular healthcare agenda
- Boosted Cheneys and establishment farts instead of progressives
- Israel
We've run TWO highly qualified women
Both times 10s of millions didn't vote or voted for the felon
One was black
"Her emails"
"She laughs too much"
For a party that prides itself on diversity and women's rights, we sure suck
I have good news and bad news.
Good news: a bus filled with Democratic campaign consultants went over a cliff.
Bad news: There were two empty seats.
…but I don’t think he, as a straight white dude, knew the cancerous and deeply held feelings of racism and misogyny in this country. Those two things killed our chances.
Rolling the dice more couldn’t change the VP’s race or sex.
Fire them all and spend all that money doing town halls in ALL districts and you'll bubble up best ideas AND win good will from people.
Even if Trump gets actually impeached again. JD couchfucker becomes president in idiocy.
Midterms are coming up though! Arguably even more important.
And Walz should start campaigning for 2028 prezzy!!
What they fail to understand is that same status quo not only got us here but advantages Republicans.
We are seeing some leaders making waves, let's hope they are only the first.
You may have noticed it in journalism too: people whose predictions regularly fail continue to be featured as experts.
That YouTube call to action this past week was an abomination.
Dem power structure never changed even after Pelosi stepped down after GOP House takeover; Schumer didn't in the Senate. 11/17/22 was the turning point. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/pelosi-steps-down-from-democratic-leadership-after-republicans-win-control-of-house
Which I agree, I just hope people realize the scope of the problem is so much bigger than a single aide.
This is all on the voters, IMO.
Compare his stance with Newsom’s podcast with that little nazi
Oh and this. The Democratic Party as we know it is dead to me
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/governor-walz-refused-meet-palestinian-activists
Sick of these old Dems with no fight like Durbin, Schumer, and Jeffries.
Get rid of these stupid consultants. Let the candidates be themselves.
Maybe “Justice Democrats” can reform the party, but I doubt it. We also don’t have time for that crap.
Need to stop being cowards and create a real party of the people.
He was an effective communicator and showed that he had the ability to command the news cycle (e.g weird).
Then, it’s obvious that they decided to muzzle him and go after the centre. I’m sure that it brought in some voters, but it likely kept a lot at home too.
And they willfully ran a campaign on "Don't be mean"
Someone over at the DNC and PR firm needs have bricks tied to them and tossed into the Potomac, Thrown into a pit of Komodo dragons !!
I knew something was going on when Harris stopped laughing her genuine laugh.
1. They don’t communicate, or execute bold ideas effectively.
2. They keep bringing sparklers to a gunfight.
Let’s stop using vague terms like the “Harris campaign” and start naming these fucking clowns. They need to be put on blast
Blaming what was a top notch campaign (Harris) rather than even considering that musk/russia rigged the election, is nutty.
A top notch campaign wouldn’t have cowered when forced to call a fascist a fascist
Even Tim Walz agrees they played “prevent defense” rather than fighting.
Thats not a top notch campaign.
Analyzing failure is the most important thing to do if you do not want to fail again.
Zero credibility
Oh sweet summer child, etc etc 😬.
Interview after interview with strategists and staffers when have you seen anyone own their own part in that loss…
I really thought Harris was going to be it. I was cautiously optimistic on election day, but your words are 100% true.
The expensive suits that consult the DNC on how to win, (who have never met an actual Democratic voter ever), decided going after 1 Cheney and Democratic neocon was a better target than ordinary working people in Penn State.
Nomination to newsome
Where is Harris?
Where is Obama?
Schumer is feckless, Jeffries no better.
Walz, AOC, Crocker are all fine but are they the party leaders now?
maybe dems should just put that on this year's primary
She has the money to rally and a different city every day. So why not?
The leader of every chapter of indivisible is doing more than she is right now
Because they are a good leader.