So do I, I had chicken pox very young but had measles, mumps & diptheria vaccines after.
My little brother didn't and was very sick with measles for several weeks at 6 yrs old.
I was young enough to envy him all his time off school though! 👍😇
I had measles, chicken pox and mumps; probably others too. I have a small pox vaccine scar on my left shoulder, lined up for the polio vaccine and both of those are almost extinct.
I've had vaccines against lung diseases, pneumonia is one of the leading causes of death in the elderly.
Don't just share on this forum. Tell someone in DC what you think about any issue that is important to you. It only takes a few minutes and best of all..it doesn’t cost any money.
We don’t need money in politics. We just need people to participate.
Kids living past the age of 5 must be home schooled or just lucky to not be murdered by a school shooter. The anxiety and PTSD these kids go through must be terrifying.
The thing is this is more prevalent in North America as I was in Georgia, the country and they don't seem to care there, not like North America. So who started this woke crap because friends of the family who are gay feel they now have to go back into the closet.
So what the Hell is "woke". Is it Americans helping Americans? We're all in this together. Is that such a terrible thing. Is that what the Great Fascist Party despises?
HOW are we ignoring history? Romania had fascism come to power and banned abortion, throwing women into poverty and exploding an orphan crises that killed or disabled thousands
MAGA live in a delusion that their fantasy ideas can be made true; they refuse reality and many will die because of it
Link, and you'd have to be living in a fantasy world to think he wants to use that to help. He has a trash record of buying companies and ideas and making them rubbish.
You have a pedo president re-elect, but yeah USA isn't ignoring history at all. Nope.
How are we ignoring history? Well, look at Trumps campaign. He reminds me of another puppet politician. They took a look of that cup full of hate and said, "More, please." Except, the Jewish aren't the first target this time; our immigrants, rainbows, and women are. Elon is working on his neural
You made an excellent point--what happened in Romania didn't happen all THAT long ago. And Trump and his ilk should take notice as to what happened to the one in power after the fact. When people start really suffering... it never ends well for ones in power. Idiots.
Hey so even if we wanted to be Nazis - and I for one do not - it also physically doesn't work that way. Herd immunity requires that a certain percentage of kids be vaccinated in order to protect those who can't be or who haven't been yet, or for whom the immunity didn't take.
We all have choices to make. Those children will be raised to be just like their parents, which perpetuates their hate and stupidness. What are we losing here?
My mom was born in HK in the 50s and she's the youngest of 3 with age gaps of 2 years and then 4 years. Well apparently the age gaps were a uniform 2 years and I had an uncle! My mom only learned later in life. I wonder if he would've amounted to anything. Instead he barely existed.
The same people proclaiming themselves as devout Christians consider Jesus Christ's basic teachings of love, truthfulness, compassion, care for the sick, disabled, and stranger, and separation of church and state to be woke. Gotta love the cognitive dissonance
We should go back to the good old days, like 1700 when we all raised our own food, didn’t have vaccines, and the average life expectancy was around 35.
40% to 50% of people born did not make it to adulthood before vaccination was introduced in the 1960s.
I swear these conspiracy theorists are trying to kill US-All.
I wonder who is backing their propaganda?
Oh no, not the woke virus that stands up to their doublespeak on being "pro life" by actually keeping people alive... and bringing forth the conceptual frameworks to improve the quality of existence for the majority. Keep it awayyyy.
Right. I think my lucky stars that we were raised in the country where we played in the dirt and had lots of animals to gain immunity. No couch potato kids back then. 😜
To be pro-life, one has to embrace and protect all life, no matter the age, the race, financial status, or physical disability. "Pro-life" is very broad term, and too many forget that.
I saw a young leftie on here yesterday arguing that the pre-vaccine covid lock downs hurt kids.
The US did the exact same lockdowns that most developed countries did.
It is so disturbing that this kind of propaganda infects so many.
Just so much brain-rot going on.
It's not an unreasonable position to say lockdowns probably did have a long term impact on social development of children. However, lockdown was necessary given a lack of preparedness on the part of most health systems and a lack of knowledge about the virus at that time.
And several countries didn't go into lock down at all yet had no worse outcomes than others. The obvious solution was always to keep the elderly & vulnerable out of harms way especially when it became obvious the wealthy weren't forced to follow the rules. But became too politicized to speak truth.
At the time the prevailing fear, at least in US for-profit medicine, was that we would only be able to treat a finite amount of cases. Some countries have invested in their healthcare systems, the US largely hasn't. As a result it was lockdown or potentially millions of deaths. Somehow we got both.
Sweden and Switzerland did have lockdowns and terminated school for high schoolers and universities but Sweden didn't have lockdowns for preschoolers and elementary. But provinces in Sweden did initiate their own lockdowns.
Both countries have universal care.
Proving my point in the original post.
Mom and I were discussing at Christmas how remarkable it was for the time that her grandmother had 7 children and 6 made it to adulthood. My mother's great grandmother lost 5 of her 6 children in the course of a single year.
Yep. That's why when you're a kid, you want to be a teenager then when you're a teenager you want to be an adult but when you're an adult, you want to be a cat.
Of course. But the right just wants to talk about landslides that never happened and mandates. 341 million people in the USA. 264 eligible voters. 75 mil for him, 74 for her voted. So the 90 mil who didn’t vote, didn’t like him enough to Vote for him either. Overwhelming victory my ass.
I do wish the undereducated who persist in chanting the Big Pharma version of history would step back and study the actual science and history on the subject. Or are you just being paid to do it?
The only logical explanation to what "Woke" is is that it's a word for stupid lazy people to write off any liberal ideas of any degree so they don't have to think. Otherwise people that use the word "woke" would at least articulate their opposition and reasoning behind said idea
I was just on the Book of Face watching people argue with a CDC post about safe food handling standards.
Like, I never thought I'd live to see the day where cooking you chicken to a safe temperature was controversial.
Invite those ppl to see the 18th century cemetery on Abercorn Street in Savannah and get a good look at how many graves are for kids under the age of 10
I've visited the older sections of cemeteries enough, and seen the tiny gravestones with carved lambs and one year on them, and family monuments with long lists of names with very close birth and death dates, to cherish modern vaccines.
I'd like to volunteer all those maga infants to "fix" the stats.
Given their elders will be shooting each other, dying of mysterious food related ailments and numerous diseases we have vaccines for, 2028 should have a VERY different electorate!
Genuinely convinced that we should start an effort to cancel Louis Pasteur and Edward Jenner as supporters of European empires, to negatively polarize our way to continued public health benefits
It’s amazing to me that they have convinced half the country that preventative medicine is worse than guaranteeing they will spend their childhood sick
When you think about the very substantial risks people took with say, early smallpox innoculation, people 250 years ago would have been flabbergasted that people now have very safe and very effective vaccines and don’t want to use them!
I think the death rate from smallpox inoculation (~1%) was about the same as or higher than the death rates of polio and unmediated covid. Unmediated smallpox was at 30%...
I still do. While I think too many are given at once to infants nowadays--and individuals CAN have reactions to vaccines (my 2nd daughter did)--that does in no way negate my belief in getting them. This whole nonsense of not vaccinating kids is foolhardy.
Yes. You had to get a weak/dead form of smallpox. A significant number of children died from the vaccine, but the risks of getting smallpox were worse. Smallpox was a children's disease, except when it appeared in people who had never been exposed to smallpox, like Indians.
There was a church graveyard near my grandparents’ house and I noticed that there were headstones for people of varying ages with the same last name who all died on the same day. It was the Influenza epidemic just after WWI. 1919. And a colleague died of the flu in 2019. Why do people want to die?
a lot of people subconsciously want to return to "weeding out the weak" while never saying they support eugenics, because they see illness as a reflection of character
My dad was born around 1915. He never used the word, but he was definitely a eugenicist. He didn’t believe in giving insulin to diabetics because according to him they ‘would just breed’. also, he highly valued his grade intelligence, believing it made him special.
Waitressing cured me of the notion that intelligence leads top wealth in this country! Some of the smartest and poorest women I ever met were in those restaurants and bars!
He and my mother practiced the religion of IQ. Lucky for me, I guess, they knew I was smart too. I grew up in academia. Another lucky bit was that I worked on and off as a waitress-breakfast, lunch, dinner, cocktails and catering- for years.
They don't seem to realize that, in any "survival of the fittest" scenario, they'd be the first ones roasting on a spit. Their cornfed, richly marbled, nacho-cheese-marinated flesh would be a delicacy.
Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick got on tv in 2020 at the height of Covid's spread and literally told older people that they should be willing to sacrifice their lives so that the economy could remain at full force. #ProLifePartyMyAss
And a lot of the white people who think/say that? Have no idea racism has made a lot of white people weak. Not just physically but mentally, emotionally, intellectually, etc.
And they only see illness as a reflection of character because the mega rich, who require human resources to keep getting richer, made them think that way.
Society is man hours to them, and they treat that resource just as badly as they treat the other resources.
" they". Ask why "they" voted for a racist trump - many blacks and Hispanics did instead of Harris. Stupid! Blacks voted for racist. Fact. Self caused.
I always kinda suspected it was a vitamin D thing, which would partly explain the summer dips too.
I personally chugged a double dose of vitamin D for the year just in case it was a factor, it would have been possibly a good thing to deploy nationwide.
Some guy on another social media platform literally just said that 1.3 million of the sickest Americans dying from covid was a good thing. Nothing subconscious about it.
That's how the name William is in my family. Grandparents had a baby who died named William. Parents had a baby who died named William. I think I'm alive because they didn't for a hat trick with the name.
People had a lot of
children because they didn’t understand how to control birth or have options to control birth. Men owned their wives and children (chattel). And yes, many humans didn’t live past infancy or young childhood due to common ailments that vaccines prevent.
When/where were wives and children chattels of their husband/father? If they were chattels they could be sold, like any other chattel, which is essentially personal property as opposed to real property.
Birth control has existed in different forms for centuries.
Even the pull out method has been used since the beginning of recorded history.
Condoms: First mentioned in 3000 B.C., and often made from linen or fish intestine
Yes, it has existed for centuries; however, not as widely known as you might imagine since the dark ages. Don’t forget that Catholicism put the kibosh on birth control, causing generations of ignorance.
I acknowledge that the odds of a child surviving were low and that many hands had to work the farms. I have some anecdotal evidence from my family. One of 13 surviving children in Iowa, my grandmother said she learned about birth control from a woman who only had two children, not her mom.
Any chance there's a "maybe if my kids saw a few of their siblings die, they'd be scared enought to do what I tell them" element to this + natalism being popular with that crowd?
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My little brother didn't and was very sick with measles for several weeks at 6 yrs old.
I was young enough to envy him all his time off school though! 👍😇
I've had vaccines against lung diseases, pneumonia is one of the leading causes of death in the elderly.
We don’t need money in politics. We just need people to participate.
https://www.nationalfinancialplan.com
https://myferretsatepepethefrog.blogspot.com/2024/12/world-war-x-wheel-turns-one_31.html
MAGA live in a delusion that their fantasy ideas can be made true; they refuse reality and many will die because of it
You have a pedo president re-elect, but yeah USA isn't ignoring history at all. Nope.
I swear these conspiracy theorists are trying to kill US-All.
I wonder who is backing their propaganda?
Only unborn lives matter?
https://floridaphoenix.com/2024/05/02/fls-educator-preparation-programs-may-not-teach-identity-politics-or-distort-historical-events/
soon put a stop to them
And I’m being generous.
The US did the exact same lockdowns that most developed countries did.
It is so disturbing that this kind of propaganda infects so many.
Just so much brain-rot going on.
Both countries have universal care.
Proving my point in the original post.
You'd best believe I had every vaccination going.
Had a TDaP vaccination before they'd allow to immigrate to the US in 2013, and blood work, too.
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...adulthood.
State is already overloaded with fosters.
Like, I never thought I'd live to see the day where cooking you chicken to a safe temperature was controversial.
About 30 percent of American adults: "How separately are we talking?"
Given their elders will be shooting each other, dying of mysterious food related ailments and numerous diseases we have vaccines for, 2028 should have a VERY different electorate!
Society is man hours to them, and they treat that resource just as badly as they treat the other resources.
I'm curious what the final numbers were though. (With Republicans refusing to count their districts we'll never know.)
I personally chugged a double dose of vitamin D for the year just in case it was a factor, it would have been possibly a good thing to deploy nationwide.
children because they didn’t understand how to control birth or have options to control birth. Men owned their wives and children (chattel). And yes, many humans didn’t live past infancy or young childhood due to common ailments that vaccines prevent.
Even the pull out method has been used since the beginning of recorded history.
Condoms: First mentioned in 3000 B.C., and often made from linen or fish intestine
(I lie - I love pissing them off) 😉
Now: Doctors are 'woke', I don't trust them. I trust tiktok. Grandma can die to save the economy