Look as a man that's been through a divorce & did not receive any justice & did no wrong in it.All I can say is ladies if he's that kind of dick it's time to quit f with him if he wears a red hat & voted against your health then he doesn't f love you no matter what you think so (continue)
So divorce his ass and filed the f****** papers tomorrow. And if you do it now before the laws go getting f***** with like I said I didn't wind up on the good end of that stick so go ahead and f*** him over now while you got the chance.
Agreed, but this is also an example of the kind of “shiny object chasing” @joshtpm.bsky.social has been talking about. IIRC marriage is mostly managed at the state level. This just isn’t likely to happen, would take massive energy/commitment that Trump doesn’t have.
My thought is that we need to stay focused on things that they can do/are already doing, eg terrible cabinet nominees, and even more on strategic planning for opposition
It’s a STATE LAW. These clowns and their goddam failure to understand or respect enumerated powers. May they be plagued by unremitting instances of the piles.
This particular outlet is barely worthy of being considered journalism. Its UK counterpart is widely read, but also widely acknowledged as a source of misinformation, thinly veiled prejudice and hate-stirring. It’s a pseudo fascist rag. Best to avoid sharing and giving any exposure.
This is in project 2025. Republicans have been whining about no fault divorce for years. It’s why they point out that women are the ones who usually file for divorce. They are trying to brainwash people into trapping women in marriage.
How stupid is this? Quit with the assault on women. I can't believe the two times divorced dump would go along with this. But we're in the upside down so...
Many divorce lawyers have 3x the rate of divorces! The Holidays usually are divorce deserts! After the Holidays goes way up! But now? D Lawyers making bank!
Yes! I was just saying that those States need to become their own Nation. They can afford to secede. I’m ready to head west. Time to get out of the South.
Another separate country could be New England with NY and NJ and maybe PA, DE, & MD. We could call the whole thing New England. (Much better than "Northeastistan," doncha think?)
Divorce is rarely the end of a good marriage. Mostly just the end of bad marriage.
The only happy marriage I've heard of getting a divorce was so the wife would not get saddled with the mountain of medical debt the husband was forced to get.
These “men” are pathetic. Statistically, women use “no fault” divorce more often than men which is obviously why they want to get rid of it. Force women to stay in abusive relationships because the “man” is in charge. Fu$k that! I’m not going back and neither is my daughter!
Which is code for she’s not white! Had nothing to do with her smile or laugh which in my opinion were some of her best qualities it was racism pure and simple!
Not me no ! I would rather have someone who can smile and laugh. I also have seen her be very serious when she questioned Kavanaugh in the Senate for example she was serious and asked tough questions!
Oh yea, those senate hearings were the best. It showed her tough and serious side. Especially when she made Jeff Sessions say, "I'm not able to be rushed this fast. It makes me nervous." 😂
I'm typically able to move on from an election, but this one really did hurt me.
My brother told me he couldn’t vote for her because she couldn’t answer questions. 🤦♀️ So, he voted for the guy who can’t make a coherent sentence to save his life. The misogyny is real. He voted for Obama.
Harris was VP for those four years and only needed to convince voters she wouldn't be a repeat of Biden, whose own internal polling showed him losing to Trump 400-138.
She literally went on TV and said there was nothing she'd have done differently than Biden.
Then some of Bidens' loyal followers wouldn't have voted for her because they would feel that she kicked him to the curb.
Let's face it if her name was John Doe most of the dems would have backed him, when HRC ran most black women backed her, white women only backed her 50 percent.
Actually we had serious problems with Clinton's for right policies. "But her emails" was what you screeched to strawman her detractors and ignore those issues, which ultimately led to her defeat. Don't know why you slow wits think you can shame people into voting for fascists.
I mean I was mostly concerned with the genocide - don't think I heard anyone complain about her laugh. Does straw manning people with legit concerns about your far right candidates seem like a way to win in 2028? Just kidding, I know y'all can't learn
Naw, that's just the excuse the christo-fascist misogynists with racist leanings used.
Of course big business didn't want to correct them and admit the reason eggs were expensive and life itself is hard is because they won't pay a living wage.
It would fund the Govt with increased income taxes.
Worst part is that the price of eggs went up because bird flu killed a ton of chickens. We sold our souls because we were too impatient to wait for more chickens 🙄
Y’all remember that whole ‘this is your brain on drugs’ campaign that the Right Wingers spent hundreds of thousand$ on to support their dumb ideas regarding the million$ of dollars they spent on the ‘war on drugs’?
I D.A.R.E. you to take a look at what a fucking disaster that was.
So the cost of the Thanksgiving feast is way down this year but the price of eggs is going back up—because of bird flu. Which is now showing up in raw milk. And RFK Jr wants to halt research on infectious diseases.
Well, God forbid a woman enjoy herself & have a belly laugh like men get to do. She’s comfortable in her skin & I think unhappy people resent others who aren’t afraid to feel & express joy.
This works for Republican voters. For Dems, you have to replace the eggs with "Genociding Arabs"
I'm more comfortable around people who want cheap eggs than people who want genocide. Glad you lost - y'all are monsters who deserve what Trump does to you.
It’s not that internalized. It’s hanging out there for everyone to see & women can be the worst misogynist. After practicing law for 30+ years, it’s the women who resented & sabotaged me the most. Not all but a lot. I was called too ambitious & greedy bc I wanted to earn as much as men.
I read it. Warned people, and they told me, "Trump doesn't support Project 2025. He said so!" I replied, "he's lying!!" Then I got told to calm down. Lmfao.
Ugh…I’ve been on their website and read a bunch but didn’t actually read the book. I’m dreading it. We need to take some moments to rest before January so we have the energy to fight!
Why are people getting married in the first place? I a ridiculous outdated institution that only ensnares, and that's not even mentioning the wasteful forced excruciating opulence of weddings
As old-fashioned as I sound, I enjoy being married/a mother. I’ve seen my growth & am in awe of what our genes created. But not all are suited. I also feel there are occasions when going “all out” is OK and within one budget/risk. We walk this earth once as far as we know.
At 46, I’m still asked why I didn’t get married or have kids and well, I have a plethora of excuses. I’m weirdly grateful I’m too stale for these fuckers to worry about.
I've never been happier i made the decision to never have kids. I'll be 50 in January. Not in menopause yet but have to be close. Husband got a vasectomy a long time ago.
Women need to know that if Republicans end no fault divorce, sexual inadequacy, is grounds for divorce. A porn addiction is grounds for divorce. If they’re gonna make you air all his dirty laundry in order to leave him, let the world know why you’re leaving.
You can do that...except with judges who are misogynists, they can simply rule the woman has not proven her case with all the evidence, then, she's stuck married to a man who is going to be an even more hostile person towards her. Best to just keep fighting to keep no-fault divorce.
But what else do we expect women to do when they're horrified by this anti-woman leadership our Country is going to have soon.
Both gentlemen were very clear about their views of women, and their cabinet appointments of several sexual predators only confirms their disdain towards women.
Sadly, I’ve decided to recommended to several friends they may wish to take advantage of the 2nd Amendment before those two get SCOTUS to rule it applies only to white males.
Might want to take advantage of the 2nd amendment sooner than later. Trump said today that he was going to issue a mandate requiring every citizen to turn over any firearms they had.
On the project25 website it says ending no-fault divorce is false. I certainly don’t count anything they say as the truth but you can easily find it in a minute. I took a screenshot. https://www.project2025.org/truth/
Okay. I found it. He said he wanted to take guns away from people in crisis, which I guess that's fair. He wants to roll back every gun law, even bipartisan ones that have been done over the last 4 years.
I'll look for it. My daughter told me about it. I was like good fucking luck. Ain't no one gonna comply with that. I looked at her like she was crazy because I was like ain't no way in hell.
I don’t see how they have the power to screw with what is clearly the domain of states. Yes, Congress can say “if you don’t do it you lose money” but it seems a stretch to think even this Congress would go along.
But i suppose nothing is predictable any more, so…who knows?
An other way of fearmongering, suppression and brainwashing to keep females shut up. These men are frightened to death of well educated, intelligent, independent and selfconfident women. These men didn´t develop any further and are still starving in front of an open fridge. Women want eye to eye 💏💍
Well, they better outlaw fornication then because as a woman, I'd just ask for a contract re the division of property rather than marriage. As a woman I've typically made more than my partners.
I left my abusive husband when he threatened to cut my hair with a Bowie knife.
Under nofault I’d have to prove it was a credible threat based on “proof” like waiting for a drunk rager to cut my hair thusly with a houseful of children.
I didn’t stick around to find out… but that was back then.
It will make it very difficult to get divorced. I don’t think alimony is really a thing anymore (not like when my doctor dad took up with his secretary and divorced my mom in 1968 and she got alimony and child support which he and his new wife resented and complained to me about regularly).
Women are more likely to file for divorce by a 2 to 1 margin. It’s about controlling women and keeping them in shitty marriages so men can be terrible partners and still keep their bang maids.
Except...and I know this for what my mom went through, so many women can't afford a private detective. So... those women are just supposed to be trapped in a lousy marriage?
In English that means if he's beating you or cheating, you can't get a divorce and you must keep putting out, if he's hankering doing ya ! You know their slogan, your body, his choice !
But hey, if we elect monsters, we should expect horrors !
Imagine such a world….beyond the frantic scrambles to leave toxic marriages, what effect does this have on pending or potential future nuptials? I see a huge drop in traditional “Christian” families.
Texas is already making good on this promise. But yeah, WE were being dramatic! May all the Trump voters have the most Old Testament lives they hoped for.
"Hear in the Now Frontier" was the last record with Chris and the last time I saw them w/ him. I did see them about 10 years ago in Bellevue w/ Parker/Todd
Women... you need to protect yourselves now that we have been taken over by white Christian nationalism.
1) Buy a gun or taser
2) Don't have sex with anyone you have not vetted completely
3) Don't marry unless you are 100% sure
4) Pregnancy is now riskier than ever.
Women’s choice first, divorce second. I can see this Sup Ct accepting the argument on Interstate Commerce grounds or even turning the Privileges and Immunities Clause on its head.
Wld not tell anyone wht 2do. 4those contemplating a divorce,consider ths;Please mke your choice bc you decide it's right¬ by"political conditions".Please dn't be frozen by fear.If you are planning,dn't rush&skip steps.Your&(kids)lives&safety matter.Hope you're supported no matter wht you choose🙏🏿🕊️
This is not high on the list of things I’m worried about. Pushing through such a controversial law with their tiny house majority and without throwing out the Senate filibuster is just not possible.
My thoughts exactly. If you think “they can’t or won’t do that” no matter what the issue is. Remember Little Brett said Roe was established precedent, then they overturned it. Complacency is never a good plan
Less government, less regulations? Waddafuggincrok!
Amazing the yuge bait and switch masked with a nonstop firehose of lies and disinfo… makes brexit look like romper room
Staying could get women killed. Leaving could get women killed. But, if a woman (especially those in red states) is thinking about it, it's best to start now - before it becomes illegal.
Because government run by fundamentalist fanatics is government run by fundamentalist fanatics. All the US right wingers ranting about “sHaRiA lAw!” was only because it was “the wrong religion.”
1) The Daily Mail is the UK equivalent of the NY Post - they thrive on tabloid shock-and-awe noisemaking.
2) They also don't understand US federalism and that the Federal government does not control divorce law - states do. They should read up on enumerated powers in the US constitution
I can't even. I just had a FB argument with my brother. He criticized me for accusing college educated, middle class, middle aged, white women of voting for Trump because he reminds some of us of our fathers. (the reason I didn't vote for him). This election was about human rights, not the economy.
Interesting that the segment saw Trump as the father figure and not Walz. And with all that education and middle-class standing, they wouldn’t see Clinton and Harris as US presidents the culmination of the movement’s work.
That's too hard. And I don't think it's a conscious decision. I'm sure a lot of had authoritarian fathers. So it's like they are following a script that was written for them in childhood. And don't forget the racism part of the equation.
My heart breaks that Gen X women would vote for Trump. And I have actually stopped posting political on FB because it was offending my brother and he basically bullied me into taking down my posts because he thought I was insulting his wife with my comments about this.
You should not have taken down your posts. You have a right to your opinion especially when supported by facts and research from credible sources. You may have to cut him loose for trying to silence you. He’s already silencing his wife - pls don’t embolden him. It’ll be the small acts of resistance.
He was defending his wife - a college educated white woman. And himself. He took the comments personally. I told him if you and your wife didn't vote for Trump because of daddy issues then you shouldn't take it personally. But I like to keep peace in the family. I'm in NY so it kind of is not issue
Women, don't go into denial on what tRump intends to do--he wants *TOTAL CONTROL.* Do everything you can to avoid gov't control of your bodies/fecundity, as well as your right to choose partners or singlehood. Get your tubes tied if you're done having kids, if considering divorce now, do it asap.
Melania is all in. Being nice people we want to see her as a victim. No. Unrepentant birther and awfullest third lady. "I don't care" is a fascistic slogan, especially when worn by the president's wife while on her way to reluctantly visit kids in cages.
They should. Until all women and good men start holding the idiots among us accountable, nothing will change. Women enable men to be racist and misogynistic assholes. "Oh, my baby wouldn't do that. He would never... I don't believe her" Young women need to be taught to wait and find better men.
Many young women are joining 4B movement (no dating, no sex, no marriage, no children) with the simple goal of decenter ing men from their lives. From what I’ve read they are happier just ignoring men. Why not?!
For the record, the Texas legislature has already introduced a bill to get rid of no-fault divorce and to have five hours of mandatory counseling by a minister or therapist before a couple can divorce. I don't think even Texas is crazy enough to pass it...but still....
So it’s ok for the guys to not be satisfied with who God gave to them(their first lay), though? All the guys telling fairy tales to keep a girl from discovering his, well, inadequacies? They forget there’s roughly *one* virgin for each of them?
Bodily autonomy is one. Trapping women in marriage is a denial of basic human rights. It should be codified at the national level. It benefits you, so it’s not important.
I’m not saying it’s not important. I support your rights. But political reality is what it is. You can talk all day long about your rights, but Republicans in power don’t give a damn.
They mean...no taxes. They want the government to control your life according to their beliefs...even though they don't actually live their lives according to those same beliefs.
This is going to backfire, women will just stop getting married. They've already made motherhood an impossible thankless endeavor, the fertility rate actually went down after Dobbs.
and considering after the election, the vasectomy and tubal rates skyrocketed. My daughter is getting her tubes tied pretty soon. most don't want to bring children into this mess.
Come on, I realize that Trump and Vance are awful but there’s a million reasons why this is overdramatic nonsense. We have so, so many real things to worry about — this nonsense is a red herring.
GOP politicians are pursuing divorce repeal in several states, including Texas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, South Carolina, & South Dakota. The push started the year Roe was "overdramatically" overturned.
The current Speaker of the House is in a "covenant marriage." Look it up.
You can bet it won't be "abuse" unless it requires a hospital visit. And christer counseling will be mandatory where she'll be told jeezus demands she suck it up for the kids!
Financial/verbal/ emotional/mental abuse? That will all just be "woke nonsense" that "doesn't really exist". Christers Suck
🤣 you say this like you weren’t here his last term. The one where he just pushed whatever through when he felt like it. THIS isn’t nonsense, especially if you’re married to an abusive pos.
It can be hard to prove an affair or abuse at the court mandated level, no-fault divorce is the most common. That and people should be able to leave before it gets to that point. So, this is a real thing A LOT of people worry about. Also when it began in the 1970s the murder/missing rates decreased
Also, no fault divorce is much cheaper. Putting a large monetary barrier to divorce will not only increase the amount of affairs and unhealthy living situations, but also the suicide rate
Trump is a mouthpiece for the religious right which means he's a tool for misogynists.
Vance is a hardcore misogynist.
Keeping women under their husband's control, and preferably barefoot and pregnant is a right-wing Christian dream.
How would they have any ability to do this at the federal level? A national ban on no-fault divorce? It would be an insane expenditure in political capital
Yes, it may seem ridiculous, but if you actually read 2025, it is all there. They want to keep "families" together at all costs. Man+Woman only families that is. And it is all about the father being present in the kid's lives to protect them. Mom's are barely acknowledged. It's sobering.
Or unequal relationships. Whether financially or career prospects or maybe you compromised in the religion your children will be raised under or any other issues. Women need to think long and hard before this choice is also taken away.
There are so many aspects to this. I am glad I got divorced a few years ago or I would be doing it now. I was in a tenuous relationship and had told him after Roe was overturned that I would divorce him if it was to become illegal. Guess I already knew 😂 but I am lucky that I can support myself.
Nope... anyone who has really paid attention should not be surprised. They want America to be a Christian Nationalist country. White+Christian+Men will be the rulers while the rest of us suffer. If they get their way, that is.
Yup. Right now in some states, you can’t get divorced if you’re pregnant.
So if you take away abortion and birth control, you’ll create a roundabout way of removing the option of divorce from a lot of people for a while until you can restrict divorce altogether.
This... 💯 is the goal. We think we are safe in blue states, and we may be. But the plan is to override the state law (just like for abortion) and take us all back to 1950.
I remember people assuring us that we were over-reacting when we said that he would overturn Roe v Wade, and here we are. I believe them when they tell us they want to eliminate no-fault divorce, contraception, and the women’s vote. I’d rather be wrong and embarrassed than vindicated; believe me.
Is it? 🤔 when I gave birth to my son in 2011 in Austin, I couldn’t have fathomed that the state would allow women to bleed to death instead of giving routine miscarriage care. My child is not old enough to drive yet but that’s how much Texas changed in 13 years. https://www.propublica.org/article/porsha-ngumezi-miscarriage-death-texas-abortion-ban
Texas already has conservatives trying to repeal no-fault. This is how it started with the abortion bans too. Getting rid of no-fault makes it much, much harder to end a marriage to an abuser. There are real, valid reasons for concern. Especially if you're a woman.
Oh? Just like worrying about Roe being overturned was 'overdramatic nonsense?' Just like worrying that Pussy Ass Bitch could steal another election was 'overdramatic nonsense'??????
JFC, are you morally bankrupt!
Its in Project 2025. Its been said by both. I agree it is one of many things we should be concerned about BUT.
As a woman it is about being treated like property, baby making machines, return to the 50s era of be seen not heard. For women who want that, you do you, but dont legislate me.
Hi, civil rights lawyer here. This is a very real concern among professionals in my field. See also: Roe. Iran in 1978. Poland right now. Romania in 1967.
Kindly either get educated on historic and modern rollback of women's autonomy in authoritarian regimes or STFU.
I had so many men tell me to quit worrying about RoevWade too, that it would never be overruled, look how that worked out. Women dying in parking lots and IN hospitals bc it’s gone.
For men this would be a non issue, unless you’ve been in an abusive relationship you wouldn’t understand. They WANT to force women to have babies and stay in marriages regardless of the circumstances.
This should be a concern for everyone as the idea is based in religious fanaticism. We must always fight government trying to impose religion on its citizens. #SeparationofChurchAndState The New Apostolic Reformation must not be legislated. @repjeffries.bsky.social
May seem like that to you but this is a huge step backwards. A woman's freedom within the marriage is something women have fought for, for generations. A woman can absolutely be destroyed without a no-fault divorce. Lose her kids, her home...
It's not nonsense though. Doing away with no fault divorce would mean that people would be stuck in abusive marriages. Or marriages full of neglect, or cheating. They want to force people to stay together no matter what. They haven't tried to hide this intention. And it's wrong.
Right. A lot of abusive men won’t agree to no fault divorce anyway. But cheating and neglectful people will easily. And those that want out before it’s dangerous or destructive
"Over-dramatic nonsense" is condescending and counter to observed phenomenon. MAGA has explicitly promised to end no-fault divorce.
When no-fault divorce went into effect in 1970, the suicide rate of married women dropped by 20% and the rate of husband's murder of wives dropped by 10%
HB 65 and SB 93
Would eliminate no-fault divorces in Texas by extending the waiting period for divorce and removing the "insupportability" option.
Stricter eligibility criteria
Would require proof of fault or specific grounds for divorce, like adultery or abuse.
You think something as simple as "you can't leave unless I say you can" is far-fetched and unimportant. Of all the ways this people seek to exert power, this is the lowest bar for them — controlling women. They already preach their control in church.
You do realize that no fault divorce is what keeps some men civilized, right? When men have the means to trap a woman in marriage, they won’t hesitate to get abusive when they know they can get away with it.
You mean… Trump doesn’t want people to divorce? Why? If you want to divorce, do it? Or I didn’t understand correctly what is happening here? Trump married 3 times… I’m lost
Back in the old days, you could only get divorced if someone was at fault (cheating, severe abuse... had to prove it in court ) (maybe you could if both parties agreed? Can't remember it all, I was fairly young) It made it difficult for women to leave abusive marriages.
Heritage Foundation put it in Project 2025. They want to go back to the olden days of controlling women. They probably expect cooperation from 45 in exchange for helping him get elected despite whatever views he personally holds on marriage and divorce. Besides rules are for us peasants, not them.
Ok understood… Glad I live on the other side of the Border… It doesn’t make sense.
« We'll all go down in history
With a sad Statue of Liberty
And a generation that didn't agree »
Marital r@pe was also legal back then. If a woman is in a potentially abusive marriage, she needs to get out now. Going to be harder and more expensive later.
"On July 5, 1993, marital rape became a crime in at least 1 section of the sexual offense codes in all 50 States. By 1996, 16 States had completely repealed their marital rape exemptions, and 33 States had partially repealed their exemptions."
My 26yr old was born in '98.
I worked in NY when there was "Fault" Divorce and the grounds were Cruel and Inhuman Treatment, Adultery, Spouse in Prison, Legal Separation, and Abandonment and you had to have legitimate proof to be granted a divorce. PIs had a field day with adultery!!
So basically, if your spouse was abusive, you had to stay married until you were beaten bad enough to get medical treatment. Husband passed away a couple years ago. Briefly thought it would be nice to find a chapter 2 and get married again. At this point, no way in he🏒🏒.
Owning women is fun boys!
I'm 46. Women were not legally allowed to own bank accounts, or credit cards, until 7 years before I was born. No fault divorce was made legal 9 yrs before I was born. It did not become the norm for any of these things to be "common" policy until I was in middle school.
I obtained a divorce in a "fault" state in 1996, in a tiny bumfuck town in Arkansas. Fortunately, it was amicable; but it required his cousin to go before the judge a lie, saying the (now) ex had cheated on me. That's how dumb "fault" states are.
Makes sense. I only knew that divorce granted on fault grounds could affect child custody, alimony, property division, etc. I didn't realize that without fault people could be forced to stay together.
Of course my mother only ever told me about those old days of New York "big cases" with philandering husbands who had to pay big money in their divorces.
Best case, if both parties wanted out, there were agreements on who’d file and what “cause” they would claim. But somebody had to accept the “blame.” Or, sometimes a woman could bargain her way out by agreeing to accept blame legally.
The advent of no fault divorce led to a considerable reduction in patricide. Conversely, it also led to a marked increase in matricide. This will be bad, but not in the way they had hoped.
Even in it's State infrastructure.
Electricity supply is not connected to the United States Grid. And in all the winters for the past 10 years it Crashed.
21st Century. It should not happen.
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Well we definatly need to keep that ball rolling on this. I will not stand by as they are trying to put woman back into slavery as nothing but birthing machines.
I've heard rumors from the very extreme that they want to impregnate woman in comas so the incels can have children.
You have to be able to prove that you've been cheated on, that you are being physically abused etc, if you can't, no divorce. Sometimes even if you can, no divorce. No more getting divorced because you don't want to be with them anymore.
That's why relationships back before 74 lasted so long, women couldn't leave, or have bank accounts, credit cards, home loans. Gma wasn't in love she was trapped.
I think you misunderstood the article. It means if you’ve been thinking about divorcing your spouse and you want an easy no-fault divorce then get it done now. Not shoot a gun.
Sorry, that doesn't help anyone 2 years from now. A gun (or frying pan) may then be the only means a person has to get away from someone they've discovered is a lunatic.
If someone voted for Trump, they do not respect or like women. If you have DOUBTS about autonomy within your marriage, get an IUD. If you have doubts about your safety, get a divorce.
They may make IUDs even more illegal than divorces. It's not like there'll be many ob/gyn's left to install them properly so getting one is a health risk on its own if done in an alley.
If there is an ounce of doubt... Putin doesn't give a shit about what the white nationalists want, or the Christian right... he wants our economy. We really could end up with the Christian right's version of Sharia Law and the Russian economy.
More likely we will end up with Giliad states where no fault divorce is implemented by Republican legislators and governors. Probably the same states that have banned abortion and want to teach the Bible in schools. I can see that coming.
I think women who voted for The Felon and his lying side kick deserve everything they get. At least 4 babies between now and when Trump leaves? That is if they survive the pregnancies at all, and all the bad treatment their man dishes out!
Sixty percent of White women obviously didn’t care enough to protect their reproductive healthcare rights so I doubt many care about this. The patriarchy is alive and well unfortunately.
Actually, with the way abortion rights propositions did on Election Night, they do care about their reproductive healthcare rights...except for the insanity of voting for the guy who wants to take them away nationwide.
Yeah, they didn't see the memo that the felononious rapist didn't mean it when he said 'states rights' about abortion. Because he lies all the time and they didn't get that memo either.
It is in Project 2025. I have read the entire thing and have had discussions in several groups. Keep an eye out for contraceptives also as they recommend the only form of birth control that should be considered is in a layman's terms the "rhythm method".
Christian Evangelist Fundamentalists
Republicans.
Are so much like Islamic Fundamentalist.
No educated girls beyond High-school. Wedded by 21.
Barefoot and Pregnant tied to the Kitchen Sink and no independent thoughts.
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Many of the drugs used in gender affirming care are not considered contraceptives. Some of the red states have already banned gender affirming care. I have read articles about people moving to other states because the state they lived in had banned it.
From what I have read, the Pro "life" organizations want contraceptives reclassified as abortifacients so they can be banned when the law firm "Alliance Defending Freedom" has their case heard by the Supreme Court to ban Mifepristine and other drugs and supplies for abortion using the Comstock Act.
You are correct. Many of the people of the Heritage Foundation are Opus Dei Catholics and the other faction are the Protestant Dominionists of which Speaker Johnson belongs to and follows the Seven Mountain Mandate. They have been working toward this since the 1970s-1980s. Vance works with the HF
Vance also converted to the Opus Dei Catholicism in Aug 2019. He was raised Evangelical, wasn't a believer & married a Hindu in mid 2014. They had at least one kid before he converted.
And guess who convinced him to convert-- his owner, Peter Thiel. They're all in bed together, in every way.
I knew he had converted, I just did not know the year. I have seen several speeches he made for the Heritage Foundation and the Teneo Group. I have been digging into all of this for over a year and people will be amazed at how deep it goes and all the people, organizations and corporations involved
All women where sold out so conservatives can attack trans people....cis straight women should divorce the men they are with, especially if your husband voted for 🍊 Hitler. Trans people aren't the problem or someone to fear, conservatives are.
Don't forget the issue of gay marriage. I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday who planned to marry his fiancee next summer who said they are planning to basically just elope before the years' end because of the threats T&V/et al pose to that. It's shameful and I hurt for them.
Marrying ahead of time might nece fix it. If the grandfathered them, ok. But if they become unconstitutional, it’d be null, a benefits and estates mess on top of everything else, or the new law can give states the decision. We must contact our reps to show support s-s unions.
There was a bright spot last cycle where a federal law passed that guaranteed federal protections for marriages issued in states that recognize them across state lines. It's somewhat protected in law. But I do worry what might happen if Obergefell falls. :(.
There is no single way to make society better. My mother spent 20 years with my alcoholic, mentally abusive father because she was trapped by that allegedly better society.
to be fair, some men like me are color deficient so it isn't like something I will ever focus on. I have no idea what my kid's favorite colors are as I CAN NOT SEE THEM as they see them.
I know this isn't your point but it did hit me a little hard.
When I was divorcing, my stbx at the time couldn't name my daughter's doctors whom she had been seeing for years, he couldn't name her meds which she had been taking for years. He couldn't even say what type of doctors she saw.
I very kindly gave birth to my son on his dad’s birthday so he doesn’t struggle with that one… however I did have to correct him on the date of his son-by-another-mums birthday once! 😳
Just another handful out of the bowl of nuts this admin is proposing. They appear to have checked every undemocratic box they could think of. Were these people actually raised in America? Where did they get this broken set of values?
From the outside all that is happening is so dystopian. Margaret Atwood saw the future or at least the general idea. No contraception, no abortion, then no divorce, no job after marriage, no property rights then no vote. I’m scared for you but I’m also with you💙
Cannot believe how often the Atwood novel is quoted. It is at if left & right want to breathe its existence to life! all of you who keep referring to this life are obeying in advance! Stop it! They cannot do it without our permission.
The Constitution you are so fervently trying to protect didn’t even give women the right to vote til 1920. So, please stop mansplaining to me how I am obeying in advance. I’ve got a lifetime of experience of being part of the resistance to tyranny. Thanks😀
Please stop, I’m not here to argue with you. If you wanna throw around credentials, I’m an economist who graduated from Oberlin college and NYU. Minor in Black studies in women’s studies. Please stop.
I’m sorry, I wasn’t intending to upset or offend you. I just think that THMT is misunderstood. It’s a feminist novel about a future where women are chattels. The truth is that this is also the not too distant past and I think that point needs to be expressed. I am an B.Sc, M.Sc, if that permits it.
I was astounded at the person arguing with you. Apparently they are clueless enough to be unaware that The Handmaid's Tale is not only frighteningly prescient, it is appallingly plausible in the current abattoir we're inhabiting.
I feel sadness, shock, horror, and empathy . But I feel anger too. Angry that we have to justify the right to assert control over our bodies, lives, and futures. Women’s lives were total dog shit for centuries, and in some countries they still are. I fervently hope that this isn’t the plan.
I’m frustrated by the reporting of women dying due to not getting abortions. As well as being, you know, unnecessarily dead they must be also be “innocent” women, with husbands, existing children, a wanted child, and an issue arising with the pregnancy.
It's horrifying and a complete atrocity.
In places like TexASSSSS now you can't even get a D&C any more even when it is the fucking standard treatment for a condition, because their utter criminal Nazi of an 'attorney general' might hear of it and imprison the doctors. I am not kidding you.
And some women too, unfortunately internalised oppression whereby members of an oppressed group side with their oppressor as a survival strategy. They accept the stereotypes but believe that they themselves do not fit the stereotype, they are different, special, and are therefore not oppressed.
haven’t seen the TV show and that may have presented the story differently but I was trying to express my fears for the women of the US. It was a long road to the limited freedoms w enjoy now and I’m pretty sure that a lot of men across the entire political spectrum would accept obeying in advance
Oh yes exactly. I didn't watch the show; I rarely ever do with a really good novel (you probably can imagine why). I couldn't agree more about the long hard road to even where we are now!
If men had spoken out for women, as the rights we fought for were, and are, being stripped away from us, with the collective shout of outrage that is now being expressed. Perhaps returning us to the status of chattels would not be so easy under New USA.
Over 50% of white women voted for Trump. That is an unfortunate result after so many years of fighting for women’s rights. If all women had voted to preserve our rights, we would’ve been a good shape without men. The male vote would’ve been gravy.
I am not obeying in advance. I am pointing out the prescience of a Sci Fi novel that I read in the ‘80s. I haven’t watched the TV series, as I didn’t want a favourite book spoiled, but the subject is not so much “ on Tyranny” as “on misogyny”
Maybe not you personally, but social media is rampant with the reference to the handmaid’s tale: It’s happening! It’s happening! I read the book many years ago.
He literally said he could shoot someone and get away with it and is credibly accused of domestic violence. DV and femicide are already not taken seriously in this country, do you really think he cares?
Of course not. My point was it worked well for 🍊 blob in the past 😕 but.. you know a lot of things abt our (current) (in)justice system worked for that thing but not for anyone else. All those lawsuits lasting years; vendors not getting paid for work won’t sue b/c $ to sue > than contract amt etc
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there's lots of ways
You can still be with your love and have children.
Abortions,
D&Cs,
Marriages and divorces
Same sex marriages,
Undocumented immigrants
Legal marijuana
Decent gun safety
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"About a dollar ninety eight"
( Old Laugh-In joke - before your time!)
I'd leave this red state shithole if I could.
The only happy marriage I've heard of getting a divorce was so the wife would not get saddled with the mountain of medical debt the husband was forced to get.
I'm typically able to move on from an election, but this one really did hurt me.
I guess she thought this was preferable to hurting Biden's feelings...
She literally went on TV and said there was nothing she'd have done differently than Biden.
Let's face it if her name was John Doe most of the dems would have backed him, when HRC ran most black women backed her, white women only backed her 50 percent.
Then, Harris' internal polling showed her losing to Trump, too.
Doing nothing was not an option, but it's what they chose to do.
Good old sexism had far more impact on the results than most folks will acknowledge
Of course big business didn't want to correct them and admit the reason eggs were expensive and life itself is hard is because they won't pay a living wage.
It would fund the Govt with increased income taxes.
I D.A.R.E. you to take a look at what a fucking disaster that was.
Sociology and Poly Sci classes dedicated to decompiling what went wrong and how it could happen.
Again, so sorry.
But will this be over by Easter?
;)
Produce them….
I'm more comfortable around people who want cheap eggs than people who want genocide. Glad you lost - y'all are monsters who deserve what Trump does to you.
This is no world to bring children into.
The cretins who grill you about personal choices in your own life, on the other hand, have no excuse. Ever.
Both gentlemen were very clear about their views of women, and their cabinet appointments of several sexual predators only confirms their disdain towards women.
https://democracyforward.org/work/sidebar-trump-done-guns-lot/
But i suppose nothing is predictable any more, so…who knows?
If you don't have one, the court will appoint a suitable guardian that draws a stipend from your assets
Just a terrifying thought
Under nofault I’d have to prove it was a credible threat based on “proof” like waiting for a drunk rager to cut my hair thusly with a houseful of children.
I didn’t stick around to find out… but that was back then.
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fcku me
I don't know who to fcku anymore
This is medieval
MAGA - MAKE AMERICA MEDIEVAL AGAIN
Thought I'd get you guys together on this.
And thank you Mary for following me, a minion in this fight.
But hey, if we elect monsters, we should expect horrors !
On the divorce - as an expression. 😊
I can't find the real world
I can't find the real world alone....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCqR8lTcIUI
1) Buy a gun or taser
2) Don't have sex with anyone you have not vetted completely
3) Don't marry unless you are 100% sure
4) Pregnancy is now riskier than ever.
They have a guy in charge with Total Immunity, remember?
They can make him do whatever they want.
💯 Authoritarianism over vaginas.
It's all the same to them. Take our control away & make us subservient to men.
🤷🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
Amazing the yuge bait and switch masked with a nonstop firehose of lies and disinfo… makes brexit look like romper room
Women can't decide who they want to live with.
How long before women can't vote?
Joke : Which came first, the chicken-sh*t voters or the egg?
2) They also don't understand US federalism and that the Federal government does not control divorce law - states do. They should read up on enumerated powers in the US constitution
“The problem is women. Divorce is almost always their fault.”
Perhaps he should think twice by saying that.
F living a life you don't love.
Speaker Mike Johnson is in a covenant marriage.
Divorce laws are state-based, like many election laws. Why would we trust divorce to be safe or fair in states where elections might not be?
The current Speaker of the House is in a "covenant marriage." Look it up.
https://apnews.com/article/divorce-nofault-repeal-republican-states-40d6c51bd26b7d8c6a2d4969b21d4b53
Financial/verbal/ emotional/mental abuse? That will all just be "woke nonsense" that "doesn't really exist". Christers Suck
Stop it.
Pretty easy to figure out how you voted.
Vance is a hardcore misogynist.
Keeping women under their husband's control, and preferably barefoot and pregnant is a right-wing Christian dream.
So if you take away abortion and birth control, you’ll create a roundabout way of removing the option of divorce from a lot of people for a while until you can restrict divorce altogether.
These women now have a shrinking escape window. Molly is right in bringing this to everyone's attention.
JFC, are you morally bankrupt!
As a woman it is about being treated like property, baby making machines, return to the 50s era of be seen not heard. For women who want that, you do you, but dont legislate me.
Kindly either get educated on historic and modern rollback of women's autonomy in authoritarian regimes or STFU.
Thank you for schooling the idiot!
When no-fault divorce went into effect in 1970, the suicide rate of married women dropped by 20% and the rate of husband's murder of wives dropped by 10%
Would eliminate no-fault divorces in Texas by extending the waiting period for divorce and removing the "insupportability" option.
Stricter eligibility criteria
Would require proof of fault or specific grounds for divorce, like adultery or abuse.
your privilege shines bright
« We'll all go down in history
With a sad Statue of Liberty
And a generation that didn't agree »
My 26yr old was born in '98.
I'm 46. Women were not legally allowed to own bank accounts, or credit cards, until 7 years before I was born. No fault divorce was made legal 9 yrs before I was born. It did not become the norm for any of these things to be "common" policy until I was in middle school.
So far.
Electricity supply is not connected to the United States Grid. And in all the winters for the past 10 years it Crashed.
21st Century. It should not happen.
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-signed someone married over half my lifetime
Nor is it an obligation to get married and settle down.
marriage is an old construct made by old white men to control women, nothing more, nothing less.
I've heard rumors from the very extreme that they want to impregnate woman in comas so the incels can have children.
Not ok.
Whoever told you that is trying to scare you.
I know it extreme but as of this moment anything is on the table.
Not being gvoverly dramatic just being a realist.
Women should get a divorce now.
The law will take care of unwanted wives and men keep all the money.
https://www.npr.org/2024/07/07/nx-s1-5026948/conservatives-in-red-states-turn-their-attention-to-ending-no-fault-divorce-laws#:~:text=Some%20conservatives%2C%20including%20high%2Dprofile,University's%20Dedman%20School%20of%20Law.
Republicans.
Are so much like Islamic Fundamentalist.
No educated girls beyond High-school. Wedded by 21.
Barefoot and Pregnant tied to the Kitchen Sink and no independent thoughts.
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And guess who convinced him to convert-- his owner, Peter Thiel. They're all in bed together, in every way.
But should it? Isn’t “marriage and children” better for society?
I know this isn't your point but it did hit me a little hard.
In places like TexASSSSS now you can't even get a D&C any more even when it is the fucking standard treatment for a condition, because their utter criminal Nazi of an 'attorney general' might hear of it and imprison the doctors. I am not kidding you.
(That's the precis)
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