The only army is us; we must muster in much larger numbers much more quickly. & we must use our wallets to hit the oligarchs with shock & awe. Eschew all social media except Bluesky. Abandon Amazon. Let them know this is a divorce.
State governments are only hope now, specifically the 15 that have Blue legislatures & governors.
State governments are sovereign & have their own courts, cops & military. They CAN arrest & stop federal agents from violating their state laws & their ppl’s rights. It’s simply a matter of will.
18 USC Chapter 306.
An offender can only be transferred to and from the US with the offender’s consent and if the offender is a citizen of that country.
And it violates due process.
They even denounced Jews citizenships. They arrested them off the streets on trumped up charges.
See anything similar going on.
Right! Without checks and balances history doesn’t repeat. No not exactly. Have to be so precise for the narcissists.
drumpf is depending on Immunity that the 6R political religious cult judges on the SCt gave him, so he's doing what he wants. But his Cabinet is not covered by the Immunity so Bondi, Honan, Noem, etc. are all subject to standing trial for ignoring their oath of office and Federal Cts.
While outside of the country, South Africa revoked Miriam Makeba's citizenship and denied her the right to return home. *Not someone/something you should want to emulate, people!*
Technically…but when you are grabbed off the street, flown to a different state, then not allowed even a call…then put on a plane and flown away…how do you defend yourself that you are a US citizen? We aren’t required to keep documents on us at all times.
It would be good to see a crowd swarm ICE agents as they kidnap, er, arrest someone. Not attacking them; just making it impossible for them to locate or reach their quarry, kind of like a school of fish swimming chaotically to confuse a predator.
The Venezuelans weren't "deported" either, they were "rendered." Deportation still requires due process, which they didn't get. SCOTUS seems to be ok with the idea that if the regime can secret citizens out before due process is noticed, they're SOL.
No, it's definitionally not possible, because the subject of "deport" is a foreigner. If you try to do so to a citizen, you are definitionally trafficking them.
Really? So your argument is..... semantics? Good job with the college and stuff.
Technically, only a magician can "disappear" someone, or so some professor told me. Thanks for your input.
Acadian here. Whole community from Nova Scotia during the French and Indian War. Some ended up in Maryland, my ancestors either hid in the woods from the ICE agents of their day and some ended up in Pennsylvania and Massachusetts.
Well I got a DNA test which shows how families were split up.
Yeah the UN says you can’t make people stateless. Trump isn’t the UN though and he could totally just do it and then later we hear it was upheld by a 5-4 decision from the SC.
Oh my heavens, it’s a matter of time. That’s exactly what’s gonna happen. We’re in the upside down. They’re gonna do everything they want to do because no one wants to step up and be in charge. Just wait.
"Not sure who needs to hear this but one cannot “deport” a citizen."
If a bunch of goons under the auspices of the fed.l govt. swoop into a neighborhood & "arrest" everyone on the street with a weird tattoo, then put them on an plane & send them to another country's prison system, you call it what?
The question will be whether someone like Gary Ridgeway, who has pleaded guilty and been sentenced can be moved to a prison outside of American jurisdiction.
Obviously not, but if he was gonna try, he’d start there.
I’m an American born citizen and write a substack newsletter https://open.substack.com/pub/csergio criticizing Trump, and I fully expect to be shipped off to El Salvador for being a dissident. Should I become a political prisoner, it would be the highlight of my life.
Trump said he wants to investigate deporting citizens- and birthright citizenship Impossible you say?
Not for a felonious president who doesn’t give a crap about the rule of law! I sometimes think no I know he’d sell the nuclear codes for the right price!
But all they have to do is call you a terrorist , without proof , and whisk you away !! The burden of proof is now on you with no way for you to do so !!!
I’m worried about my naturalized DIL. She’s been a US citizen for 7yrs. And she has to travel in US for business. I don’t want her to go. Am I paranoid?
My family got here in 1650 as puritans - hope that’s long enough to not get “deported” but - I, to some lunatic in a red hat I may “look a lil suspicious” so if I disappear 🤷♂️ ahem
I started to type this somewhere else earlier today and second-guessed myself and deleted the post. I'm glad to know I was right. It's just bog standard banishment, right?
But you can kidnap them and fly them illegally, with no due process, to some foreign hell hole. Forever. If you get caught, call it a "mistake" and then LEAVE THEM there.
When you slip into authoritarian fascist, anything is possible. What we're seeing today are things we never thought possible in a stable democracy. Once he assumed office, all bets are off.
Fascists do not follow the law. This regime is not paying attention to the Constitution. Every day he attempts to shred and distort it. This nation is under attack from within.
A lot of people need to hear this. Exactly where would you deport someone like me? Born and raised in California by parents born and raised in Maryland who had parents and grandparents and great-grandparents born and raised in the United States. Try explaining that to a dumb trump employee.
A prison in El Salvador, because and ice agent checked boxes on a form that said you were “deportable” and you were denied a hearing to pull out your birth certificate and your parents’ birth certificates…
Then, no one is safe. If the Supreme Court allows this to go on, we are all screwed. The Law only applies when it works in favour of trump and his goons. This must stop or we will not have a country.
They are human trafficking people. These are not deportations. They are done without due process which is illegal. Trafficking is moving people across state lines illegally. They are trafficking people into slavery at concentration camps. Call it what it is. Change their narrative.
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Sad we have to ask this.
The only army is us; we must muster in much larger numbers much more quickly. & we must use our wallets to hit the oligarchs with shock & awe. Eschew all social media except Bluesky. Abandon Amazon. Let them know this is a divorce.
State governments are sovereign & have their own courts, cops & military. They CAN arrest & stop federal agents from violating their state laws & their ppl’s rights. It’s simply a matter of will.
Just as visa holder, married to a US Citizen cannot deported to a prison in another country. But, they did.
Or, a president cannot sell stocks before imposing tariffs, and tank the market. But, they did.
An offender can only be transferred to and from the US with the offender’s consent and if the offender is a citizen of that country.
And it violates due process.
See anything similar going on.
Right! Without checks and balances history doesn’t repeat. No not exactly. Have to be so precise for the narcissists.
Thomas and Alito: Hmm, sounds good to us.
But they are.
They’re morally depraved.
The worst ideas, the worst instincts, the worst comrades, the worst appointees, the worst voters, the worst taste, the worst.
https://youtube.com/shorts/H8gYlWcV6wE?si=bsiVAR03JEKaD15a
https://www.imidaily.com/analysis/when-nations-unmake-citizens-a-history-of-denaturalization/
Laws and rights don’t mean anything if nobody is going to enforce them
They can absolutely disappear any of us at any time and call it whatever they like
Technically, only a magician can "disappear" someone, or so some professor told me. Thanks for your input.
Well I got a DNA test which shows how families were split up.
Please make note, this has always been the case.
Love,
Winston.
None of this is deportation
https://youtu.be/FUoU39Heia8
(The deportations not the levitation...cuz, well...yeah)
If a bunch of goons under the auspices of the fed.l govt. swoop into a neighborhood & "arrest" everyone on the street with a weird tattoo, then put them on an plane & send them to another country's prison system, you call it what?
https://nextgenamerica.org/
https://generalstrikeus.com/
https://runforsomething.net/
Obviously not, but if he was gonna try, he’d start there.
The USA is collapsing and nobody gives a shit to get off their devices and stop it.
Prove me wrong.
Not for a felonious president who doesn’t give a crap about the rule of law! I sometimes think no I know he’d sell the nuclear codes for the right price!
And apparently no one will stop them before the damage is done.
So?
You think they care about such details?
Thank you.