Starmer should be begging to get us back in the single market. We can never resolve our financial crisis while rowing this boat with holes and one oar. Thanks Boris, ya twat.
It was ALL lies. And still they say Brexit was the will of the people. Just ignore the charlatans, the sham referendum and take immediate steps to revive the economy - it’s the real will of the majority. Rejoin customs union & freedom of movement.
I htink we need a public statement that Boris Johnson, the boorish johnson, is a certified idiot and/or charlatan.
Idic=ocy on that level should also be criminalised with offenders only being left at large if they pose no further risk to humanity, especially HUWmanity.
You need to think big like Bozo, Peter! That's his out-of-the-box thinking for a bin! None of us mere mortals would ever be able to conceive of such a thing! Bully for beefy!
He and others that promoted Brexit by telling these lies and that everything would be cheaper, more money to NHS, 'we hold all the cards' etc, etc. Should be in court and liable for the additional costs and/or imprisonment.
Have we learned the lesson about gullibility & charlatans? From the front page of today's Daily Mail I think not. The fact that we as a society, as a system, reward this gobshite to continue to spew his toxic nonsense says it all. Freedom of speech has to come with some responsibility towards truth.
Brexit was a insane idea, pushed barely over the finish line with lies, Cambridge Analytica and Murdoch manipulation and a lot of Russian help, propelled by racism.
It was never going to happen like promised, much like the cheaper eggs in the US.
When people are told what they want to hear, they don't care if it's a lie. That's how the Johnsons of this world rise to the top despite a complete absence of talent or decency; Telling popular lies.
Hello, are there any mathematicians with advanced degrees who can tell me if the algorithm for “suckers born per minute”, has been exponentially increased.
I’m old enough to remember reading an article in the Torygraph by Bozo the Clown espousing the benefits of being in Europe. That was before the transparent cunt realised by being part of that movement on the other side he could become King.
Every single #Brexshit promise was a self serving lie by bullshitters personally profiting from removing everyone’s rights & freedoms and raising our income taxes to the highest levels in modern history! How are we not more violently outraged?!?
#BrexitIsTreason
Boris Johnson and others should face trial for this. They would argue that they couldn’t have known and you can’t prosecute a government for a bad decision. I understand that governments deserve some level of protection when things go unexpectedly, but in this situation the government should be
Put on trial to show where they believed this would work, and to prove that they were not warned by just about every final institution and economist that they were creating a disaster. Evidence that Brexit was going to be a success is going to be more elusive than evidence of WMD. Parties and
Boris Johnson should be on trial for the murder of vulnerable British citizens. He should be on trial for being a threat to national security and a Russian asset, he should be on trial for misconduct in public office, he should be on trial for treason. I doubt he’ll get nicked for lying just yet.
Absolutely agree. Same with Blair/Campbell for WMD. Neither was supported by any real evidence, and in both cases probable disaster was warned about continuously. They not only ignored it, they lied to negate it
That's not very old. I'm old enough to remember Maggie Thatcher saying the single market was a great idea. Then she introduced rewards for greed, which has led us to this point where the EU is rejected to avoid perfectly reasonable taxation of the wealthy.
Didn’t he get drunk at some business meeting and told everyone that if they were asked for paperwork they should send it to him?
Maybe send it c/o the Daily Mail?
I guess they will have a digital back up, but my understanding is you need to maintain the documentation for each product for 10 years, so maybe they're doing both in case one is lost.
When a wise man makes a mistake he admits it, reverses it and minimises the damage. When a fool makes a mistake he tries to justify it, tries to make it work and when it doesn’t blames everyone else for his mistake. We are governed by fools who are followed by fools.
Archie Norman claimed they had to open a warehouse to deal with the paperwork for Ireland. M&S have 16 stores in Ireland and 22 in Northern Ireland. A warehouse for 16 stores. I'm calling bullshit.
And yet Johnson and Farage, the two biggest liars about Brexit benefits, are still allowed to continue their lies with the support of client journalists and right wing MSM.
Expect him claiming that this is because Brexit hasn't been finished properly and it was all Labour's fault. That people should vote him back into office to deal with it properly.
Führer Farage, Johnson, Mogg, Cummings, Banks, Rothermere, Murdoch, Frost, Truss, Sunak, Redwood, Tice, Gove, Davis, Odey… the list of liars is extensive. Then there’s players like Cameron and May who claimed to be remainers, they lied too.
And yet most of the die-hard Brexitiers will blame ...... the EU for this! We have become that partizan, that truth no longer matters! That is Johnson's true legacy!
Underlines a more serious issue of how populists win by making impossible claims whilst rubbishing ‘bureacracy’ as no doubt the Americans will soon find out ‘beware of lying populists who promise nirvana’…
The story is specially about food exports to Ireland. Lots of firms have just given up selling food into the EU. Smaller companies that continued and those selling in bulk, rather than multiple different items in one truck, will presumably have a filing cabinet rather than a warehouse of paper.
UK only country in the world who left enormous trading mkt, puts in an internal border, add endless paperwork & custom duties on to own exports, 500k EU service workers have left, & unbelievable many still can't understand why there are terrible problems with trade & the economy #Brexit
It is Marks and Spencer, they wouldn’t be so uncouth as to use a bin…this is a Marks and Spencer bin otherwise known as a warehouse.
Might explain why they tried to cut costs and close the Middlesbrough store. Middlesbrough is a ghost town now
There might be regulations related to digitalizing paperwork that has to have physical signatures. Could be under EU customs law these still need to be saved for 10 years.
Sorry, your cultural references are unknown to me, but this is about constituting legal responsibility/combating fraud. The UK is out of the EU, so UK digital signatures are not valid in the EU. Those signatures are what M&S needs to preserve in order not to be sued by the EU Commission.
Why are governments ok with delay? They aren't meant to be efficient. They aren't meant to protect from harm. They don't know what comes next. So they'll delay, with inefficiency.
Where is Rome? How many of their documents are lost to ash and rubble? What's next
Unfortunately, social and moral norms do not allow us to let them reap the consequences of their own stupidity. This has created the false idea that they are immune to their own idiocy... until one day, we will run out of patience and let them drink their own medicine.
Quite why Labour needs to shackle itself to making this unpopular Tory/Putin/Farage Brexit “work” is anyone’s guess. Failing to tackle this Right-wing shit in the UK will bury them as surely as the US Dems have been buried by failing to neuter Trump. Why does Starmer think he won? Charisma?
The unfortunate political reality seems to be that many Labour voters believed the Brexit tommyrot. To reverse Brexit would be to split the Labour party, at least until those people no longer believe the lies. That's why the Tory client media still promote and defend Brexit, I believe.
I found this out "In some cases, M&S has reported needing up to 700 pages of customs documents for shipments, with some descriptors required to be written in Latin". Latin?
"oh but see this is not our fault, it is the bad EU that requires all that paperwork. we had no way to know that if we leave the single market we will be unfairly treated as a third country, nobody told us!"
1921-“What a fool I was! I was only a puppet, and so was Ulster, and so was Ireland, in the political game that was to get the Conservative Party into power.”
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The only le!sson from history is??
I also remember he said he would be dead in a ditch if there was paperwork from Brexit. Still waiting.
BTW watched Last Christmas on Sat nite w my family and it was lovely to see you in it. Thought super cool 18 yr daughter would diss me over it cos I love that film I cried again she nearly did.
He was a liar and a thief, we are no longer attacked with bombs, we are bombarded with disinformation from chosen assets and hidden hackers - this is the new disinformation war
And they should send him the bloody bill. And he has the nerve to write in the Daily Fail about surrendering to the EU. Our current woes are very much down to him and Frost being totally out of their depth and leaving us with a useless agreement.
How long do we go on kidding ourselves that this is anything resembling ‘control’ or reducing red tape?
This M&S warehouse for paperwork should become the museum of Brexit. A monument to pigheaded English exceptionalism and ruinous Tory ideology.
As it has been proven over and over that people don't learn from history, the museum would be dangerous in that it would be a reminder of an act of sheer folly which would best be consigned to the bin and never talked of again.
We once had no paperwork. Then the UK insisted on leaving the Single Market and Customs Union, diverging standards, and being treated as a 3rd country, for all of whom these same burdens apply
Why would EU do you favours now?
What is the UK offering in return? EU will decide if any offer is enough
I obviously know that. I'm not talking about favours. I was asking who decides what paperwork needs filling to import into the EU if not the EU itself? If a company like M&S has a warehouse to store paperwork the EU must have an underground bunker. Can it be digitised?
The point is that 3rd countries like us don’t get the benefits of the club when we irrationally decide to leave the club. We were much better off inside the club 🤷♂️
I am very much aware of that and have clearly said so. Again my question is who requires all this paperwork which countries who export to the EU have to fill in? The UK I am sure will rejoin the EU club at some point as long as it doesn't need to take 10 or 20 years. Bonkers if so.
Maybe we should start asking ourselves what the French citizens would do in our position. Somehow I think it may be a lot more than petitioning our MPs. Food for thought 🤔
It’s a wonderful piece of Labour placing this in the news .. get EVERYONE, not just pro EU Remain up in arms about it and then resolve it by closer links as a response to public outrage.. suck on that Farage and Johnson !!! 👏👏👏
In the book 'Taken as Red', I believe the rationale is said to be that these voters were called 'heroes' as part of efforts to get the Labour team to respect these people.
The idea was that these voters believed Labour didn't respect them and their 'legitimate concerns' about immigration etc.
All lies and horseshit. I guess we had to allow a bit of time to prove the lies, but the horseshit has been steaming since day one - imagine boasting that you’d saved ‘red tape’ by allowing shops to use an additional and archaic measurement system!
...and bragging about changing the colour of the UK Passport. That's really they/we all have got to show from it, while we stand-in the non-EU queue 🙄🤬
Its time that the blame stopped being passed to the crime syndicate who were out of office over 5 months back and put on Labour who now own this & are continuing the same idiotic red lines on Brexit as that crime syndicate.
Not really, because it's not like Labour can change any of this at their will. The EU would not be ready for the UK to return into the EU when not one party was elected to government on a rejoin agenda.
There is no reason at all (beyond spineless capitulation to populist RW) that the UK cannot drop its red lines on the Single Market though. That is the discussion here.
The EU would welcome that as the start of some honesty & humility and symbolic of the most definitive end to the idiotic cherry picking within the red lines. Discussion of actual return to the EU is not at all relevant (alas) at this time.
We can never forgive the Tories ... Yep labour are not covering themselves in glory... But.. youth mobility will be the start... Brexiteers would never understand until they individually felt the pain, they are now and it's getting more so... Once YM is seen as a benefit, Bx will fall like dominos
Of course the crime syndicate set all this off in the first place. But Labour ultimately voted for it when they could have abstained and have subsequently sold their souls completely to Brexit. Yvette Cooper's anathema to immigration & FOM is every bit as Brexity as any of the crime syndicate.
Labour have handled even the YMS badly & made something of a mockery with the so-called re-set with their never ending repetition of the Brexit red lines. This has all also set back the pace that any of those dominos could fall. Still quite some distance from any of that.
Agreed, I think a fear exists of doing too much too soon, "the people" really do need to feel the pain, to the point that they have no defence of Brexit left...
Labour, Reform, UKIP, Tory and even Lib Dems to a certain degree will never allow the UK to think separately to what's best for us, but rather what's best for USA elites.
Like the Roman Empire. Our foods paid for their lavish lifestyle and once the producers realised that?
If only they were behind bars and paying for their lies having been held accountable.
Sadly they got away with it, again, and have lucrative deals as a result.
I don't see many rich people with morals and integrity
Johnson's reward, from his paymasters, for screwing over the country by getting brexit done, according to himself a self serving liar. The other one is just an oleaginous self serving liar who will follow the money trail and, like the former, change his mind on a whim, or a paycheck. Greed abounds.
Rupert and the Rubles played you all… don’t feel bad, we did worse (again) and you at least didn’t red carpet Farage in (at least not yet, but give it a few years)
The annoying thing is that, just like U.S. "MAGA" followers, "leavers" love to forget the damage being done and just reiterate their mantra of " but those immigrants".
Yes, that was one lie I couldn’t believe. Unconscionable that no one really seemed to understand or care about the impact of Brexit on Northern Ireland.
Boris Johnston telling lies. The man who said he'd fund the NHS to the tune of £350 million a week from the proceeds of Brexit. Well I never, what a absolute shocker.
Instead, Brexit incentivised Ireland to open up several new ferry lines linking them directly to the continent, reducing the red tape and adding only a few hours to transport times.
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Murdering cunt.
- David David 2016
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/21/boris-johnson-lies-marcus-rashford-prime-minister
Idic=ocy on that level should also be criminalised with offenders only being left at large if they pose no further risk to humanity, especially HUWmanity.
They'll be pleased.
Spare a thought for SMEs who don't have the money to buy or staff a warehouse.
Brexit was a insane idea, pushed barely over the finish line with lies, Cambridge Analytica and Murdoch manipulation and a lot of Russian help, propelled by racism.
It was never going to happen like promised, much like the cheaper eggs in the US.
Oh that’s right they didn’t.
Which is completely indefensible when it was blindingly obvious. They only had look at ‘TRACES’
When he said good morning ,
I would look out of the window to check.
Prince of Dankness then 😂
There was the comment about letting the bodies pile up, but I think that's it then.
Now your Labour liar ,
would have changed the definition first.
Morning, would now be a non specific period.
#BrexitIsTreason
It's A HUUUUGE Beautiful bin😂😂
Maybe send it c/o the Daily Mail?
And a lot of people would believe him!
How...?
Sadly, it's not as easy as a "reversal", even if Starmer hadn't already ruled that out.
Same thing ?
Farage on BBCQT tells us it was eight years ago and we need to move on.
The biggest conmen still being defended by their marks.
How novel!
Remember the warehouses used for storing and then destroying unfit PPE?
They were essentially waste receptacle.
OH, you did?
Aaaaah. Never mind.
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Might explain why they tried to cut costs and close the Middlesbrough store. Middlesbrough is a ghost town now
I wonder when signatures became more important than the actions they are written for.
I don't remember any of the names on the constitution, except the ones written the biggest. Still, I only know John Hancock
Why are governments ok with delay? They aren't meant to be efficient. They aren't meant to protect from harm. They don't know what comes next. So they'll delay, with inefficiency.
Where is Rome? How many of their documents are lost to ash and rubble? What's next
Oh, and Crispin Odey. He made a bob or two, I think.
I kid you not.
And not a single news outlet reacted w outrage over Putin(!) lecturing us on democracy.
https://youtu.be/KMaQevBUuf0
Unbelievable
And Johnson need flushing like the turd he is….
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The only le!sson from history is??
✨⭐️THE BIN⭐️✨.
🤔 Hmm new night club ?
BTW watched Last Christmas on Sat nite w my family and it was lovely to see you in it. Thought super cool 18 yr daughter would diss me over it cos I love that film I cried again she nearly did.
It's not a disinformation campaign it's a we were high on our own propaganda.
Not teaching history objectively has caused your citizens to be proud of its nations setler colonial past.
Leading to thinking others from other nations as lesser.
It was mostly a load of old bollocks.
Unfortunately some people were duped.
M&S should hire a tipper truck and dump it all outside his house.
This M&S warehouse for paperwork should become the museum of Brexit. A monument to pigheaded English exceptionalism and ruinous Tory ideology.
Why would EU do you favours now?
What is the UK offering in return? EU will decide if any offer is enough
I think we should be told...
A few months ago, Labour even called their target market 'Hero voters'—Brexit-backing, anti-immigrant, Red Wall & swing voters.
UK policy, from immigration to economics, is shaped to appease them.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/29/red-wall-brexiters-hero-voters-election-partisan
The idea was that these voters believed Labour didn't respect them and their 'legitimate concerns' about immigration etc.
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British democracy and the entire non-constitution do not demand any probity.
We are seeing deeper into the network of the great and the good. For all of that, chancers, bullshitters and players of games continue to lead us.
Meanwhile the rest of us will continue to know that Brexit is a monumental shitshow.
Like the Roman Empire. Our foods paid for their lavish lifestyle and once the producers realised that?
Sadly they got away with it, again, and have lucrative deals as a result.
I don't see many rich people with morals and integrity
Lock it up. Life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paperless_office
Who to believe?