I was working in a record store around that time. The owner's teenage son would work there occasionally and spend most of his wages in the store (the employee discount was good). Once he brought that Mumford record to the counter & his dad looked at it crossways & asked "are you SURE you want THIS?"
It's fine to like them! Musical taste is not reflective of a person's value as a human being, and I certainly would hate to be judged by my more questionable listening choices.
I don't think I was talking about separating the art from the artist—I was speaking to the idea of judging a person because they listen to (some other person's idea of) bad music.
Separating art from the artist is a longer and much more complicated conversation.
Nah they (ok, maybe "we") were super into Arcade Fire, Animal Collective and Dirty Projectors. Acceptable folkish stuff was like Joanna Newsom and maybe Fleet Foxes.
this is why "conservative is the new punk rock" is so telling. Just like the hip youth pastors, there's no way to integrate following the rules with counterculture that doesn't inherently expose you as an insecure gremlin.
pretty much. It's the exact same tantrum Marvel fans have when people call their movies popcorn flicks with no real lasting power, and they throw fits and try to explain how they're all very artful cinema actually. Like okay you can't be mainstream action movies and *also* artistically deep.
Punk, like all counter cultures, is split between the universal antiauthoritian impulse that made it a counterculture, and the aesthetic hangers-on who aspire to believe they are independent and free thinkers but are incapable of more than stealing the look and childlike reaction to popular things.
I was 18, tripping on acid in college when I realized my own "anti-pop" attitude, if allowed to be reflexive and total, was still surrendering to the whims of the masses, and determined that true independence was judging the value of things personally, regardless of how others judged it.
This accuracy is equal parts amusing and disturbing. They also used vintage glass Coricidin bottles as slides. For the tone. Of the glass. That’s vintage.
The fact that theres a market for strymon patches is baffling to me. Paying more for a preset for your 500 dollar reverb to sound more like every other church band is fucking wild
I mean, the term 'hipster/hepster' was coined to describe white fans of black jazz musicians in the 40s, which turned into white folk fans who were really into black blues musicians in the 60s, which is where this 'look' came from. No hipster listened to Mumford & Sons - that's pharmacy music.
That so many of them see this as imagery of white identity would explain why their pundit class co-opted the aesthetic. Stuffy suits were lame and institutional so now they're all rocking beards, lumber jack shirts, and skinny jeans. It's a way to set themselves "apart" without self expression.
This 100%. It was all "how dare these [slur slur slur] have beards without having been in war?! Without ever having worked at the torture factory".
Real stolen valor shit
Wow...wokeness just gets better and better. First it was racial equality, now it's the thing that kept planes from falling out of the sky and it killed off hipsters. I love woke
Was this vague collection of aesthetics that appeared mostly in cities, and didn't have any strong political beliefs or artistic direction supposed to last forever?
Seeing people actually try to be nostalgic about hipsters when even hipsters hated hipsters is wild. The fascist mind is truly in a reality if it's own
are they starting to romanticize hipsters? nobody liked hipsters. it was a meme hating the hipsters. they were pretentious, posers, snobby, posing as alternative while being purely consumers. they came from the same plane of existence of funko pops and had a lot in common with "nerdculture"
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Separating art from the artist is a longer and much more complicated conversation.
Hipsters are the new punk
The need to force an identity based purely on being 'against' popular forces for being popular, it just reeks of desperation and a baby brain lol
Like, you are a poster of Bluesky. That’s your scene. You like it and like the people there.
You are in a counter-culture.
LOL
This was pop culture. Wtf is this dude on about?
still.dont know what a hipster is outside of aesthetic associations.
Real stolen valor shit
…*what*?