Details have been scant on the Midwife in Texas who was arrested for allegedly providing abortions -they are hoping to fire off the fear making headlines and then we forget while we are overwhelmed with other bad news/ops. So we don’t fight back in time-juggling crisis
We are not living in a democracy where there is free press anymore. There isn’t separation of powers in the government. The Senate and House are both subservient to Trump. People are being disappeared from the streets and sent who knows where. This is like nothing we’ve seen before in this Country.
On this one, I understand. A witness called the police cause they saw a woman put a baby in a dumpster. Yeah, you would arrest her till you found out what's going on. The DA not dismissing charges is the thing to keep an eye on.
No, it's not OK to arrest anyone for something like this.
It's a gross violation of a person's privacy and right to due process, not to mention incredibly cruel to do to a person who's been through a traumatic experience.
And if it wasn't her baby? Kinda need an autopsy to verify that 1. Yes, it was her baby
2. No, it wasn't murder.
3. Which yes, if it had been born alive it would have been.
Those aren't things you can find out in 30 seconds on the scene. She's out on bond and the DA probably won't charge.
I got that feeling years ago when I thought that they were heading to the Handmaid's Tale. At the time I had multiple men telling me I was being alarmist.
The Media doesn't cover what's important. The Media covers what is most likely to get you to watch (more ads) more. To believe otherwise is naive. To believe they're practicing journalism is simply 100% stupid.
This story is heartbreaking. Horrific on many levels. What can be done to change things? I'm not an American, but for those who are, what practical steps can be taken to set things right again? I full-on cried when I read about this the other day. The cruelty is overwhelming.
Where is the national handbook for handling a miscarriage. Was she supposed to bring the “body” to the police station? Let’s drop off our bloody underwear monthly to them to be on the safe side. Could have been a miscarriage. 🤷♀️
Right? Who can be certain how many pregnancies they’ve had, or how many miscarriages?
(Not my mother! She birthed 11, some without a period between pregnancies.)
Having never experienced a miscarriage (of which I am aware), I’m seriously asking the question of what is the acceptable protocol? And when does that kick in? Would there be a cost if the answer is that a woman should bring it to a hospital? Due process involves having advanced notice of legalities
That’s a good question. And I think the answer can vary, depending on gestational age and presentation. That’s not my area of expertise. If you have a good healthcare team, you would be protected by HIPAA once hospitalized. Also — why were police even involved in the first place??
That’s a pretty huge “if”, considering the state of US healthcare. Police were involved in this case because the woman was found unconscious and bleeding on the street. Does that sound like someone with good access to care?
That is one perspective, albeit a very clinical and cold perspective.
As someone who has experienced miscarriages and has friends who have experienced stillbirth, I can tell you that it is a very emotional experience and stays with you forever.
Or... sometimes that isn't the case at all. Having experienced two miscarriages myself, I wasn't super emotional. Disappointed yes, exhausted of course, but not in any way devastated. I could manage the cleanup, letting my partner know, taking a few days to physically recover. Not everyone is you.
I am not understanding why it’s okay to be outraged without more information, but it’s not okay to be confused and concerned when gathering more information.
After one of my miscarriages I asked what to do with the remains. The hospital told me that no one cared before 20 weeks, so I wound up burying them under a tree.
If I didn’t have my own yard I’d probably have wrapped them for disposal too. What other choice was there?
Men have absolutely ZERO idea how frequently miscarriages happen in a bathtub, or on the toilet, or lying in bed, or in some other location that is not a hospital.
It's unreasonable to expect anyone under that kind of stress to calmly start looking up the laws on disposal of fetal remains.
She was arrested after disposing of the fetus in a dumpster. She will not be prosecuted. They considered charging her for not properly reporting the miscarriage under Georgia “personhood” law, and improper disposal of human remains.
It’s been covered by local Atlanta TV news, Newsweek and Huff Post.
When you are so fearful of having a miscarriage that you have to dispose of it to stay out of prison!! This is sickening. To all the men who believe they are above women and feel that you can make decisions for all of us, 🖕🏻 you 🤡 !!!
If they're not planning to prosecute her, why is she still in custody? Is she receiving adequate follow-up medical care? Keeping her locked up under these circumstances amounts to torture.
What this is missing is that the headline is correct, what she is charged with is "improper disposal of a body". Meaning, according to the laws of that state fetuses are humans. That's the charge.
It's outrageous
I am not sure about other women, but I certainly was never given instructions on how I was to dispose of the products of conception after a miscarriage if it happened at home.
Those newspaper/ tv reporters are absolute cowardly bastards . They are supposed to honor the truth of all matters of public interest! Always suspected they were lackey whores , now I know they are lackey whores
I actually did not know about this until right now; thank you for posting, and how hideous all around. I wonder if she was afraid she would be held legally responsible if she went to the hospital. Very scary times.
What really gets me is all this pain, pressure, and legalities put on women, like everything is her fault. If they want to hold a woman responsible in any and all ways, they should also hold a man equally responsible, whether they are married or not. Why should men get a free pass in all this?
Which Georgia? The Georgia in USA that is heading towards fascist authoritarian regime with fake elections or the Georgia country 🇬🇪 that is heading towards fascist authoritarian regime with fake elections
They’ll cover it as soon as they report on those missing Native American women. Which they’ll cover as soon as they cover the backlog of rape cases in every American city.
The cruelty of the state’s actions—inhumane. Anyone who has experienced a miscarriage or loves someone who has knows the deep trauma. This loss is carried forever.
So many of us have gone thru a miscarriage and I cannot believe women are now in danger of prosecution of something beyond our control, this needs to be shouted from the rooftops!
My high school best friend's first pregnancy resulted in a miscarriage at something like 3 months, I think. I have never known of a pregnancy that was more wanted. She and her husband were devastated. I can't imagine what would've happened if she'd been accused of murder on top of that.
is it? i mean, it is what she did. it's just that what she did does not meet the definition of what she's been charged with, since there is no way a 19 week old fetus "took a a breath," considering fetuses don't have lungs for like. 10 more weeks.
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First I'm hearing this. This has happened to so many women and one I will never forget.i was cared for... This is a case for abuse of women. Poor girl💜
I feel a bit bad, adding to this after so many shares, but seems ok if i'm just adding another case, with more ammunition about how evil these people are, that's happening right now.
(That’s a very confused post but I hope you followed the jumps. Sorry, it’s nearly 3am and I haven’t slept well because pain is living up to its name. But my son is home for the Easter holidays so I am happy.)
That's what we're telling ourself to keep the worry at bay. Plus, Ultrasounds have a 15% detected size variance, and can vary more than that depending on the user.
All her features look perfect, she's just tiny.
But, thread's not about me. Just used me as an example to show how bad SC is.
That poor woman is being held in jail. She did not commit any crime. There is no law covering the disposal of an unviable fetus. It's incredibly cruel that she's in jail.
She wasn’t arrested for having a miscarriage and you know that. But you know your followers won’t do any research because they care about the truth about as much as you do.
She was charged with concealing the death of another person and throwing away or abandoning a body.
Jessica knows this.
Now you know too but you’ll move the goalposts.
So the woman was actually abandoning a "body" while miscarrying and losing her conscience. Well... You know yourself how that sounds, that's why you added the least sentence. But thank you anyway, now I know for sure that it was an arrest for miscarriage. Getting pregnant is a felony now
Yes, nobody is omitting the dumpster part and the name of the charges in the coverage, where the dishonesty you cried? She just should deliver it to the morgue I guess... while losing consciousness from miscarriage, makes sense.
There are a lot of holes here. One that sticks out is where is the donor/father in all of this? Why isn’t he prosecuted for not protecting his child? It takes two to tango. Women don’t get pregnant on their own. Tired of us being controlled when men are dropping mad sperm everywhere and nothing!
I don’t follow corporate media much, but I did remember seeing an article on it so did a quick search to see if I could find it the link and there were about a dozen different articles about it…
Let me guess, I assume women was black or POC, the fact is our MSM is just as racist as our current administration and the people that voted for Orange Hitler. This has always been the case.
Those are facts, but you have to be the right type of white person too. These are facts I'm 100% familiar with and why I said something. Just whiteness doesn't matter.
To say this is dystopian doesn't come close!
If it was reported as happening in a 3rd world country, people would have difficulty believing it!
What are the authorities thinking?!?!
It's like we're living in a society that's getting their ideas of how life can be better if we emulate
The Hunger Games.
A Handmaid's Tale.
Anne of the Thousand Days.
AND
Road Warrior.
We need help!
One of the many many many many drawbacks of the Trump administration is they take up all the attention every single day. Part of that is on the media outlets but a big part is on us. We watch and read Trump stories. We don't pay attention to the downstream effects
I saw a few articles in March when it happened. I think because of the lack of verification from the GA police, it was thought to be a fake news story. It was not fake, and the arrest is unwarranted.
I am sure she is in a lot of pain over the loss of her baby and now our government arrests her! How cruel and inhumane. What a total shit hole country we are living in now
Just when we think we’ve made progress, we go backwards. That woman is a sister. Sending her 🫂 and ❤️. The media seems overwhelmed with the chaos and fear retribution. This already feels like a dictatorship.
And that's why I didn't know about it! Damn it! Living in a blue state I have a hard time fathoming getting arrested for having a heartbreaking miscarriage. How bizarre and insane.
That is pathetic just goes to show that major national outlets are showing if you have a miscarriage or an abortion they don't care, I find this appalling disgusting, you know all these major national news outlets or pro-life anyways Plus they've never told the truth
They distort the truth let's face it they're all pro lifers that's the only thing they care about and it's sad that a woman in Georgia who had a miscarriage and I agree major news media outlets simply don't give a rat's ass
The post I was responding to was deleted, but this piqued my interest as someone who has had 4 traumatizing miscarriages. She was 19 weeks along, fetus roughly the size of a small banana. It’s not considered a miscarriage after 20 weeks. Idk what I’d have done, but I would NOT throw it in the trash.
I find that disquieting as well, but what were her options (if she was even thinking clearly after medical and emotional trauma)? Bring the mass to a hospital and hope they don't charge too much or arrest you? Bury it in the yard? An elaborate funeral would likely appease the fetushists I suppose.
As far as funerals go, I have always hated them, which is apparently not an uncommon experience for autistic humans. I can’t speak to that. Funerals are for the living, not for the dead.
As a recovering people pleaser, I don’t really care what people think, either.
As a postpartum RN and mom who has also experienced miscarriage, I probably have a very different perspective in general. Nurse brain, I would automatically recommend calling the hospital. Mom brain, I would have difficulty letting go of the fetus because of natural attachment. I can’t comprehend.
That’s really thoughtful. Thank you for that. I sincerely appreciate your contribution to the conversation.
It’s hard for me to say what I feel about it. I tend to disconnect. But I do feel strongly about the topic and women who have experienced perinatal loss, so it’s there somewhere.
I try not to label my reactions as "natural" vs others', esp. as people don't always think clearly after trauma (when I found my friend dead [natural causes], the 1st thing I did was take my dog to my car). BUT you have more pertinent experience than I do, so thank you for sharing this perspective.
Thank you for engaging thoughtfully and respectfully.
I tend to internalize the message that I am bad and wrong (bc trauma), so I always appreciate it when people respond with curiosity and not aggression.
If there’s a better way to describe it, I will look for it.
But I do think it’s important to make a distinction between the expected outcome from a non-traumatized brain vs. the wide range of expected outcomes from a traumatized brain. We need to stop normalizing trauma responses and treat them.
why are you showing an artists rendition? This is not how a miscarriage 19wk fetus looks. And what exactly is the guidance from anyplace on what should be done when you miscarry at home?
I’m confused. What do you think a miscarriage looks like? The uterus isn’t exactly capable of breaking apart a fetus of that size. It would be birthed, like a term baby. If fetal demise occurred long before or was caused by some deformity, that MAY alter the appearance.
Any pregnant woman who has received prenatal care should be educated on when to call the OB.
Mothers who are attached to their baby will take action to protect their child; it’s a natural instinct. However, trauma often gets in the way of that.
that it's not just a fetus expelled. And showing pictures from a hospital in which a miscarriage was assisted by medical personnel and after the fetus and all the other products of conception expelled with it were cleaned up for the pictures is not the same as a miscarriage that happened at home.
They got a call because she was unconscious and bleeding. Doubt she was in the proper state of mind or body to determine what to do when she made the decision she made.
The police timeline says EMS determined she had a miscarriage. Didn’t know what to do so she cleaned it up the best she could. Then continued to bleed until she passed out and 911 was called.
I won’t accept responsibility for anyone’s erroneous assumptions; however I will offer clarification.
Screenshot of first post. Deleting the post erased it from the thread. It seemed as if it was intended to erase any opinions that might challenge the one readers are intended to form.
In a sane world, she might have gone to a medical facility and gotten proper care. You have to wonder if Drs might have refused that to her, she couldn't afford it, she was terrified, or embarrassed to ask for help, or any number of scenarios.
What you or even I would have done is irrelevant tbh
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jesus h. christ on an e-bike.
we need to focus on what's really important here
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4468887/
It's a gross violation of a person's privacy and right to due process, not to mention incredibly cruel to do to a person who's been through a traumatic experience.
2. No, it wasn't murder.
3. Which yes, if it had been born alive it would have been.
Those aren't things you can find out in 30 seconds on the scene. She's out on bond and the DA probably won't charge.
Y'all are going to have to realize your local police and the local legal system are the biggest threat.
https://www.11alive.com/article/news/crime/georgia-woman-faces-charges-miscarriage/85-79544640-4318-4d04-9e92-157464084b58
& the media ignoring it default complicity with vile
(Not my mother! She birthed 11, some without a period between pregnancies.)
That’s a bit odd.
If you can’t change the system, you change your approach to functioning through it, surviving it.
And no, it does not. And that’s an additional piece of the puzzle. Thank you for sharing.
As someone who has experienced miscarriages and has friends who have experienced stillbirth, I can tell you that it is a very emotional experience and stays with you forever.
I continue to have confusion about the disposal.
Your interior life is yours, not hers, and predicating her actions on your emotional responses is.. odd at best.
I am not understanding why it’s okay to be outraged without more information, but it’s not okay to be confused and concerned when gathering more information.
If I didn’t have my own yard I’d probably have wrapped them for disposal too. What other choice was there?
I’m sad for your loss and the fact that you had to bury your baby on your own.
Perhaps part of the answer as well is better support and direction for early fetal demise.
It's unreasonable to expect anyone under that kind of stress to calmly start looking up the laws on disposal of fetal remains.
- Steven Bannon, and literal nazis
But I repeat myself...
It’s been covered by local Atlanta TV news, Newsweek and Huff Post.
It's outrageous
https://www.msnbc.com/ali-velshi/watch/when-your-miscarriage-becomes-the-subject-of-a-criminal-investigation-235768389900
Today's #Georgia 🇺🇸 news
"This bill contains a total abortion ban, with very few exceptions, and could criminalize recipients and medical providers with capital punishment"
https://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/politics-government/article303258216.html
They voted for a white old narcissistic convicted rapist, they don’t give a f*ck about women.
It’s infuriating. Disgusting.
Poor woman… I’m heartbroken for her.
@lawrenceodonnell.msnbc.com
@chrislhayes.bsky.social
It's just grotesque!
Nothing but a dumb useless redneck racist bigoted corrupt criminal convicted felon rapist dangerous white supremacist fascist loser and sucker fraud POS.
https://www.jezebel.com/georgia-police-jailed-woman-for-miscarriage-performed-autopsy-on-miscarried-fetus
I found deleted news stories in a few other places, still in the index, but gone.
Heh.
https://jessica.substack.com/p/her-fetus-has-no-heartbeatthey-still
My wife's pregnant right now. 27 weeks, and we're doing everything in our power not to freak out cause the baby's 2 weeks behind in growth.
Seems a molehill next to a mountain.
Cannot even imagine what this womans pain, fear, guilt and anger must be.
He’s just finishing the first year of his uni degree in maths and sports science, and is happy, kind, and healthy.
And remember the +/-15% makes it all a bit moot anyway!
All her features look perfect, she's just tiny.
But, thread's not about me. Just used me as an example to show how bad SC is.
Profit > Journalism.
Jessica knows this.
Now you know too but you’ll move the goalposts.
#JakeTapper
#DanaBash
#ChrisHayes
#ErinBurnett
#LauraCoates
#AbbyPhillip
#
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https://bsky.app/profile/huffpost.com/post/3llwqlhkpts2c
If it was reported as happening in a 3rd world country, people would have difficulty believing it!
What are the authorities thinking?!?!
The Hunger Games.
A Handmaid's Tale.
Anne of the Thousand Days.
AND
Road Warrior.
We need help!
https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/04/01/georgia-woman-miscarriage/
ssshhhhh
https://thegeorgiasun.com/crime/all-charges-dropped-against-georgia-woman-arrested-after-miscarriage/
@nytimes.com @washingtonpost.com Is anyone going to report on this?
As a recovering people pleaser, I don’t really care what people think, either.
It’s hard for me to say what I feel about it. I tend to disconnect. But I do feel strongly about the topic and women who have experienced perinatal loss, so it’s there somewhere.
I tend to internalize the message that I am bad and wrong (bc trauma), so I always appreciate it when people respond with curiosity and not aggression.
But I do think it’s important to make a distinction between the expected outcome from a non-traumatized brain vs. the wide range of expected outcomes from a traumatized brain. We need to stop normalizing trauma responses and treat them.
Source: am postpartum RN
Any pregnant woman who has received prenatal care should be educated on when to call the OB.
Mothers who are attached to their baby will take action to protect their child; it’s a natural instinct. However, trauma often gets in the way of that.
Deleted and reposted because I thought I should include a trigger warning, in case it is not obvious.
Images may be distressing, especially for anyone who has experienced fetal demise.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2542212/amp/Mother-shares-heartbreaking-photos-baby-miscarried-19-weeks.html
And that is the point.
It just creates more questions.
And that’s also the point, when it comes to news articles. We only know what we are told.
The police timeline says EMS determined she had a miscarriage. Didn’t know what to do so she cleaned it up the best she could. Then continued to bleed until she passed out and 911 was called.
Thank you for your attempt to engage and have a nice day.
Screenshot of first post. Deleting the post erased it from the thread. It seemed as if it was intended to erase any opinions that might challenge the one readers are intended to form.
My attempt to share my concern/confusion and desire to have a better understanding do not equate to hatred for women and their physical wellbeing.
I do not enjoy being spoken to as if I’m stupid or behaving in an intentionally cruel manner. I will not engage with such responses.
What you or even I would have done is irrelevant tbh
All of the variables, all of the perspectives, all of the potential outcomes should come into play. Every single time.