All of the people cheering on Luigi and saying that he did nothing wrong when he executed a premeditated murder make me really uncomfortable. Once you say that he’s justified, I can’t trust that you aren’t going to say political violence against more people is justified, and that’s a real bad path.
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viva la revolucion motherfucker
In fact, show me any time our government ensures justice for victims of billionaires. The justice system isn't coming to save us, we have to do it ourselves.
Yes, murder isn’t great, but pretending that this is some travesty and that all murders are equal is —/ meh.
Using plea-bargains to enable
13th Amendment "except as" clause to supply convict slaves (for RENT, by private equity owned 3rd party entities). When this first happened to a white boy over a century ago, there was a fuss. Fugitive from a Chain Gang came decades later
there’s an endless list of examples how the state wields an iron fist over the poor/marginalized and velvet glove service for the wealthy/privileged
if we had a justice system, brian thompson would not have stayed in a position to keep killing
the justice system didn't get around to helping fix that, if I recall correctly.
Unfortunately it doesn't and wasn't built to.
A "justice system" isn't working when medical bankruptcy, student loans, inequality and open genocide are the only tangible outputs of your system
The "justice system" is a failure. Ive never seen it ive known people whove died to it, but i rarely see true resolution from it. Had the justice system actually replaced being active moral agents - then there would be no billionaires or insurance ceo
Luigi: Doesn't
Point to Luigi on this one I'm afraid
Today?
Today I'm genuinely amazed anyone still thinks this. What an embarrassing lack of awareness.
Oh, you answered already.
Per geoffrey:
We already have vigilantism - it merely wears a suit and tie, and counts its deaths in quarterly earnings reports.
Very seriously
But, yes, if you change what he said, then my response to that different thing misses the point.
You might be the one that's a little silo'd off here
I understand the belief isn't actually rational, but the problem isn't that the CEO was guilty. It's that denying coverage causing the death and dismemberment of US citizens is completely legal and there's no realistic way to change that.
I get the outrage and the sheer weariness, the wrongdoings of these companies and their C-suites are hideous.
But normalising political violence comes at the cost that it encourages the gun-nut right. Rabies pandemic.
People who insist the gears crushing you need to turn, but also that you should never raise your fist at the man running the machine
The justice system is currently being fucking strip mined. Grow up.
Just because you see the violence in shooting a CEO but not in the CEO's destructive profit-seeking acts does not mean it does not take place.
Vigilantism is the logical conclusion of justice denied. People celebrate not as an endorsement but that SOMETHING finally is being done.
all you are defending is ruling class's right to a monopoly on violence.
It's not the people getting claims denied.
It's not the people getting locked up for nonviolent shit and then rented out to Starbucks and Bloomberg.
It's not the people getting evicted because their landlord doubled rent.
The ruling class has a system for applying violence.
You also have a 2nd amendment against a tyrannical government!
Do men have the right to shoot ?
At what point is corporate capture - part of a tyrannical government?
But if you MAGA that went over your head!
Witness Nazi Germany!
And when our social contract is under attack by corporations in 🇨🇦- we will do whatever!
In addition when they attempted to bring ´for profit’ hc to Canada.
The fury made the Terrified!
They work for us!
Is there appropriate time for the 2nd amendment against a tyrannical government?
Trumps 350,000 lies should have been enough!
When they do not represent the prople, your 2nd Amendment was the remedy in tue Constitution. Or was it just to shoot kids??
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PEng. MMEng. MBA
People wîll not put up with gouging here.
As far as I am concerned the RePublican Representatives no longer are straight with the American people.
I think there should be wave after wave of violence against them.Until they are listening and answering to the people!
Kkkapitilisims you betcha!!!
Seriously, bad take.
Meanwhile the CEO made millions indirectly killing tons of people and the laws are built around letting his ilk do that.
Fucking MAGAs!
They are killing us every fucking day
but now suddenly a vigilante does something good and you’re here clutching those pearls!
And don’t try to say there’s justice; if there were, the CEO and his parasitic ilk would’ve received adequate treatment by now.
Scratch a liberal or some such thing
But the whole banality of evil thing is what allowed the horrors of the nazis. It was people that didn't speak up about injustice or critically think that allowed it to happen.
want to tow the line while the rich eat us all alive? Sit down.
https://bsky.app/profile/dell-adams.bsky.social/post/3lcifqm3gvk2x
Remind you, all this has been approved as appropriate political discourse as of Jan 20, 2025.
Society works because we take some things off the table for individuals to decide on their own.
Murder is one.
We should also be able to make denying people healthcare one, too, as well as gross wealth inequality.
than we can call them a hero
There’s one thing to not like the healthcare system -this doesn’t fix anything
But the people that are cheering on a murderer are truly insane
Especially the ones that think he’s so good looking
I really question these people’s morals and values
Take out a dictator
And corporations suck that are not helping people
Luigi comes from a rich Republican entitled family
He didn’t do this for some political statement
He was on drugs and he was mad because he had a bad back surgery.
Didn’t fix uhc policy
nothing could be more american than political violence and nobody can stop what is to come with words
hope this helps
It's the only violence that can be justified.
Otherwise you have future crime. a minority report if you will.
George Zimmerman is a murderer.
Kyle Rittenhouse is a murderer.
Orenthal James Simpson is a murderer.
None of them have been found guilty of murder. They are murderers.
my point is that the truth of the matter is we don't know if the Mangione case has enough evidence to prove it was him. We haven't seen the prosecutors case. They could have the wrong guy.
My point was.
We have a suspect.
And Op is too sensitive
It's also that he places his mistake as being too focused on individual acts of violence. His conclusion isn't that violence is not the answer, it's that he wasn't thinking big enough.
This is all downstream of corporate state capture. We’re getting back to consent-of-the-governed basics. Concentrated wealth has broken democracy.
Wave after Wave after Wave of Luigis!
Republicans need to so terrified of the population, that they are terrified of the lives of their kids and grandkids.
The man literally built a Poor Person Killing Machine and the system protected and even rewarded him for it.
That is a system which produces and promotes psychopaths.
We can disagree with the methods all we want.
Political violence against a LOT of people is MORE than justifiable.
And you're right it is a "dangerous path". But the alternative is letting the planet die along with all the people on it, including you so yknow, as ya'll are fond of saying; its called choosing the lesser evil.
But Luigi is the REAL problem?
But do we REALLY have a Justice system? Trump goes free, petty criminals who make a mistake at 17 go to prison. Trump pays for an ad demanding teenagers are executed. Proud Boys & Oathkeepers convicted by juries but free to harm again by Trump.
You hate Luigi for aesthetic reasons, not because you oppose death and suffering.
What I find more concerning is the general implication/consensus that Luigi absolutely did it. He is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, and the entire media is treating him as if he has been convicted already.
Morality is not never killing but killing when neccessary and id argue alot of killing is required to be antifascist. Because fascists force you to fight them. You have no choice.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/anthem-blue-cross-blue-shield-time-limits-anesthesia-surgery-rcna183035
I think the wittle health insurance company will survive without unilaterally timing complex medical procedures personally
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Luigi is a hero.
Also, there is no part of our current system that will save us from our current system.
Until found guilty in a court of law.
And that is only a single aspect of it.
Political violence is the only form of justifiable violence.
Seems pretty clear cut to me
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How is that Justice system better than vigilantism?
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Asking for a nation.
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How is that Justice system better than vigilantism?
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When you take away people's faith in the Justice system, you court chaos & vigilantism.
There is such a thing as an idea or a person that not only invites but requires violence to confront.
Fixed that for ya
Kid dying, slowly,in agony of a treatable disease or a greedy, psychopathic CEO Lund?
Your choice coward.
Do YOU move the lever? Or just sit back feeling smug about how moral you are?
the rest of your opinions are wrong too