Taking the law into one's own hand is what criminals do. Luigi's action to kill the CEO can not be justified. The healthcare system may get even worse under Trump. So that doesn't mean one can go around shooting people. One wrong can not make another wrong right.
Yeah, almost like a political party should build a message about this and start campaigning on reform all over the country starting immediately. If you don't have the nitrous of the right wing media, you need strong, long, and consistent. None of which happens. So all heil, herr Trump. 🤦♂️
I don’t think Luigi did it. Where is ceo being taken in ambulance, his funeral? Something’s not right! What’s really going on? Is that ceo really dead? 🤔
I think it’s the lack of an upper lip tbh. Not even making fun of him, but I was just thinking next to a photo of Luigi, he wasn’t the most handsome dude and he looks exhausted. He actually “worked his way up” so I doubt he slept much honestly.
He got the position because he was willing to murder with an excel spreadsheet. He’s not unique. There are thousands of MBAs willing to do whatever it takes to increase shareholder value ready to replace him.
They call the policy holders they murder and the doctors they ignore stakeholders.
I’m not even supporting him. I’m just stating an objective fact. He stayed with the company 23 years and wasn’t a CEO for 21 of them, that’s considered “working your way up.” Also having worked in a very corrupt healthcare environment, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was a workaholic, although
Helping people wasn’t his main goal. I work mental health so I often think about the psyches of people. He likely was sleep deprived by the looks of it.
I am pursuing an MBA (in financial planning) and I will personally state these people are monsters. My job only exists because engaging with capitalism is mandatory.
I do not share these views with my clients, except the cool ones who bring up their disgust unprompted.
It doesn’t because idk if you’ve ever worked in a corpo environment, but staying at a corrupt company for 23 years is exhausting unless you’re a psycho. Though true, these individuals aren’t often hard workers for things that matter, they are just remarkable ass kissers. Also some CEOs are ethical.
I’ve worked in tech for the last 25+ years at a level either taking direction from c-suite folks or doing work where they’re the stakeholder. Very familiar with their ilk.
If these findings are accurate, Americans should be ashamed that instead of fighting for universal healthcare, they waited for a young man to commit murder & risk life in prison or death in order express their will rather than take political action to force change in our pathetic healthcare system.
The average 🇺🇸 adult reads below a 6th grade level & we're even worse at everything else. We are trained to be brainless, unthinking plebeians. Almost no one has a cohesive overarching philosophy or value system.
Most people trash their bodies until the last instant & then rush to the ED to fix it.
How do you expect people to fight for universal healthcare in such a corrupt system? Sometimes violence is necessary when all other options have been exhausted.
If only someone had considered peacefully advocating for universal healthcare.
Oh, right. People did, and the ones whose message took off had an odd tendency to be murdered while nothing changed except to continue getting worse and worse, and not a single elected official was willing to change it.
It is. We should also be aware that if he were just a tad more *ethnic*, this view would most likely change substantially. If his name was Abdul or DeShawn or Miguel, people wouldn't GAF about the severity of his back pain.
I think you seriously underestimate how many people have been fucked by health insurance companies. Not just a minor inconvenience, but life ruining situations.
How am I underestimating anything to do with the vileness of health insurance companies? I'm pointing out that right-wingers probably would not be cheering this guy if his skin tone were darker.
The extremist wings of each "side" come back around & nearly form a complete circle. It's why fascism & Marxism yields such paradoxically similar results.
The extremists on each side are in favor of terrorism "for the common good". That's why they *both* love Linguini Spaghettione
There's not a comment section in America that doesn't look exactly like this one, so the results are not surprising to anyone being intellectually honest.
Thanks, Vince! I thought it might be in poor taste to reply to that in that way, given the nature of this story so I wussed out. Thanks for stepping up!
if united healthcare didnt actively try to kill its customers, its customers wouldnt be so angry they want to murder executives. youd think this would be obvious, but given the recent news cycles, it still appears to be murky for some people
Enough of this BS! A man a father maybe a husband brother or son was murdered! Stop glamorizing a cold blooded killer. Then let’s fix our broken healthcare system. Two wrongs do not make a killing right.
100% glad he died. That guy did way more than one wrong. It's not murder when you kill somebody who is presently in the act of killing an innocent person, and an insurance exec literally does that in their sleep.
Typical wishy-washy liberal take. You pretend to be leftist when it's convenient, but we know what you are: an apologist for a system that would gladly see the working poor dead in a ditch.
This guy is not a martyr. I don’t care how f’d up the American healthcare system is this was wrong. If we all decided we were wronged by some corporate entity & became vigilantes then what type of society would we be?
A fully disingenuous skeet. You truly believe that all that happened here was one man was "wronged" by a corporate entity?
That entity lets people suffer and die for profit. It's not as if they shipped him the wrong ipad or some trival "wrong." It's a lot worse than "f'd up".
If it encouraged people not to legalise systems that cause mass death in pursuit of profit, I think it would be a utopia. If liberals and centrists don't want to live in that sort of world there's always the option of questioning power instead of kissing up to it.
Luigi's action sparked something powerful. I'm grateful and support him. Individual acts of violence won't get us far though. They'll probably harden corporate and state resistance. Solidarity (nonviolent and violent) is our best hope.
One where people might actually consider that trying to profit off of the death and suffering of millions of poorer individuals isn’t that great of a plan.
Weird how you seem to be opposed to that kind of society.
That man willingly decided to become CEO of a company that kills 60k or more Americans per year, a company that killed 400 Americans in the time between him getting shot and the news broke.
And they murdered people LEGALLY because Capitalism is the tool of psychopaths.
How do you propose we, the people, fix our broken health care system when we have none of the power? Are you a CEO? The President? A member of the Senate or Congress? No? Neither are most of us, so we can't do fuck all.
Brian Thompson reaped unfathomable benefit precisely because of the broken healthcare system. He should be despised and ridiculed. Leave it to his family to mourn him.
Weird how you clearly only get up in arms like this about this one guy and not all those people whatsoever. Almost like you’re just mad that someone with money (and by extension power) got what was coming to him
Then why the fuck did anyone vote for Kamala Harris? Every vote for Kamala Harris was a vote for the regime carrying out a genocide in the name of preventing something worse.
We have two men here. One worked tirelessly to deny people health care that they had paid for, causing thousands of them to die, in the name of profit. The other killed one person because he was angry that this was allowed to happen.
I know which one of them is a "cold blooded killer".
I think paying someone several million dollars to effectively kill thousands of people is way worse than "glamorizing" a guy who only killed one person
Just cause he married someone and knocked them up doesn’t mean he was a good man. He was at the helm of a company that causes thousands if not millions of people to suffer and occasionally die needlessly. He was lucky to get a swift end instead of spending hours on the phone begging for medicine
Healthcare is a business. Unfortunately. We live in America. This CEO was not the sole reason for the ills of a murderer. Our healthcare system sucks! Decisions are made based off profits & that’s unfortunate. But murder is just a bit much. In my opinion of course.
No, healthcare is not a business. the American system is an abberation on the world scale. and Brian Thompson was the CEO of the company that had the single worst track record for denying care.
Personal responsibility though, isn't that what these businessmen are always banging on about from the consumer? If one chooses to make their living off death, despair, and unethical decisions - I don't owe them my grief when consequences come a knocking. You don't either.
That your reply to something that did not glorify Luigi was to bitch about glorifying Luigi instead of speaking to the post which WAS about the failure of the healthcare system, is an indictment of YOU, not us.
It’s nice that there is a point where Americans can agree and care about something. Kinda scary that it requires them to have been affected directly by it to have opinions that withstand propaganda
Depressing but probably not far off. I understand neither group, well maybe the first a little. Living in the current world I can get my head around the temptation to stick your head in the sand
@kenklippenstein.bsky.social I’m not sure why you are surprised by this. When systemic forces create a situation it is foolish to ignore them. We all have choices, but very little happens in an absolute vacuum.
Well keep in mind, within that 31 % are folks who think the CEO is completely responsible. Not partly. Just majority of the country lobs some form of blame, but not all.
Everyone knows that you can only push people so far before you get violent reactions. And almost everyone has dealt with health insurance at some point in their adult lives. It doesn't take much to put the two together.
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Got that classic “fake smile that looks uncannily like a pain grimace” shit going on.
They call the policy holders they murder and the doctors they ignore stakeholders.
Relationships are the basis of business. UHC forgot this and paid the price.
I do not share these views with my clients, except the cool ones who bring up their disgust unprompted.
Another particularly dead eyed ghoul. I dunno why people can’t or don’t see it with MB. Empty behind the eyes.
Most people trash their bodies until the last instant & then rush to the ED to fix it.
Oh, right. People did, and the ones whose message took off had an odd tendency to be murdered while nothing changed except to continue getting worse and worse, and not a single elected official was willing to change it.
The extremists on each side are in favor of terrorism "for the common good". That's why they *both* love Linguini Spaghettione
The Nuremberg Trials dispute this interpretation of reality.
If even one person says he didn’t do it then it’s a hung jury and the state has to pay to try him again.
Jury nullification is how we protect him.
69% of the free world believe the US healthcare system is totally responsible for what happened.
Likely a good percentage of those would do the same...
The whole business of US health Insurance is utterly despicable
Luigi is still Innocent until proven guilty
That entity lets people suffer and die for profit. It's not as if they shipped him the wrong ipad or some trival "wrong." It's a lot worse than "f'd up".
"Why can't we all just be nice to each other" doesn't work unless everyone plays by those rules.
taxes should be a threat
But if you think we’ll make change by sitting around and feeling bad for healthcare/pharma CEO’s, I can’t stop you.
Weird how you seem to be opposed to that kind of society.
If we all decided to do it, the FACT is it would be a much better society with no billionaires and healthcare that's free at the point of use.
We are nothing but an expendable commodity to them.
And they murdered people LEGALLY because Capitalism is the tool of psychopaths.
Given the claim that UH makes to be working with millions worldwide, I have to imagine it’s millions murdered by them as well
You know who’s a cold blooded killer? The already wealthy guy letting thousands of people die of curable illnesses so he can keep getting richer.
I know which one of them is a "cold blooded killer".
Well, the stock price went up when what's-his-face got got, so business agrees that him dying was good, so it must've been good
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/markets/unitedhealth-contributing-dows-historic-losing-streak-rcna184568
Vengeance.
Justice is better, no doubt.
But who is responsible for it not working ?
Nice.
That 31% needs to be studied in a lab!