the only thing determining his fate is how deep the capture of the justice system is by the fascist rich is (given a real jury trial he would near certainly be given a reduced if not eliminated sentence)
You know, I always knew there were two systems of justice in this country based on the wealth of the accused. I didn’t quite realize justice also depends on the wealth of the victim. In retrospect it should have been obvious.
See, what Luigi should have done is shoot a black CEO. Then the justice system would implode trying to figure out if green trumped brown in its application.
If that wasn’t already clear to everyone, the fact they want to make protesting Tesla a terroristic act should’ve shown everyone what’s really important to these people.
It’s almost like our world cares more about the uber rich than the peasants
Just saying we outnumber these cunts a thousand to one and they literally couldn’t stop us from just throwing them into the Boston harbor as the founders intended
Or... simply not working. I mean sure still go to the office, but don't actually do anything. If that happened enmasse. Just imagine how much money a business would lose in a week. Which directly impacts the CEOs
Ok so 1) I take your point but 2) it’s really apples and oranges. The Walmart case is a *plea deal*, meaning the shooter is pleading guilty and getting life without parole. If it had gone to trial the DA still would have sought the death penalty. Also, that case has had ISSUES before it got here.
The question is, why was he allowed a deal? Also why do plea deals override the will of the judge and jury? I don't care if the prosecutor accepts a deal, if I was the judge I would just say I'm ignoring it and putting him on death row anyway.
Because the case has been going on for six years through three DAs and has been mismanaged by at least one of them. It hasn’t even gone to trial yet, so there’s no jury to override. And only a jury can sentence someone to death.
There is, they've just run with the Orwellian thing where you name the thing the opposite of what it actually is, i.e.
Ministry of Peace -> Wages war
Ministry of Truth -> Produces propaganda
Ministry of Love -> Enforces loyalty by fear
Department of Justice -> Inflicts injustice...
I know. That's what I'm saying... The crime happened in NY, and NY doesn't even have a death penalty. The feds care more about wealthy CEOs than about schoolkids.
Exactly. Texas literally finds excuses to send black prisoners to the afterlife, but yeah, the racist white nationalist who butchers 23 people in a Wal Mart gets a plea bargain.
We, as a country, really need to start taking over the streets everywhere.
Is it still terrorism when the class being terrorized comprises "insurance company assh0les who declined pain meds and surgery for my merciless back injury"
1/2 Only because he’s white. Don’t for a second think they don’t wake up kicking themselves wishing that Luigi wasn’t white. He likely wouldn’t have half as big a “fan club” if he was. When images of him were first released, at least one network described him as “light skinned”.
2/2 Talk about wishcasting when your suspect is literally the stock art white guy in grey hoodie in front of a computer that’s listed under keywords like cybercrime 🙄
Feds declined death penalty in early 2023 to limit trauma to families. He plead guilty & got 90 consecutive life sentences. These are the state charges. The county DA effed up the case so much it created a situation it would be in PCR until the end of time if they tried went for death
El Paso has a Democratic DA who respected the wish of a majority of victim's families to get the trial over with and provide closure. In contrast, the Trump administration is run by MAGA psychopaths. That is the reason for the difference.
Friendly reminder that if he gets the death penalty, another billionaire will probably be killed, and if that one gets the death penalty, another will die. There are way more of us than there are of them, and they know it. That's why they're so scared
The Luigi prosecutors are federal prosecutors and while the El Paso County DA is a Democratic district attorney who is Hispanic but honored victims' families' wishes to avoid the death penalty. But neither of them should get the death penalty.
So if you kill a white CEO of a giant corporation, you are headed for the death penalty. If you kill 23 poor people of color, you get life in prison. Huh.
Im surprised Trump doesnt pardon him for just having a bad day, but he’s a good guy(white)! The difference in legal systems across the country & even w/n is pretty insane & the judges/prosecutors in red state & rural areas feel like 2 diff countries. 😡👎
I really can’t believe insurance companies were going to take away covering anesthesia mid surgery if they thought the surgery took too long. That was what was being discussed and decided the week this ceo was killed. Then after they were all like ok nvm.
It's only weird if you don't know a thing about America. But Mangione comes from a rich, well-connected, white family. We have to do something about this rich-on-rich people crime spree.
Whatever. I won't cheer for an accused murderer. The support for this privileged creep is like the support for #TraitorTrump: A sign of this nation's deep moral rot. If you wish to condone that, that's *your* problem. Run along now.
Lol you run along now you fucking coward, that CEO was responsible for the premature deaths of thousands and the impoverishment of hundreds of thousands. You bringing that heat for him?
You’re gonna support this guy getting murdered but not the other? And you think that’s morality?
The difference is that Luigi killed a rich man & instantly became a folk hero & that scares the billionaire class. They need to free the man because he's got more work to do.
Not pushing back on the substance of what you're saying, but Luigi has repeatedly maintained his innocence and I think it's important to take that into account
We can give critical support to Luigi AND the person that shot and killed that CEO
NGL, I kinda think he's sticking to that in an effort to not make his defense attorney's job harder, you lose credibility when changing your plea & it really hurts your defense. I hope he's aquitted &/or jurys refuse to convict him.
Isn't the evidence against Luigi circumstantial at best? If so, that means we don't know for sure if he actually killed anyone. And if he's sentenced to death, the feds could be killing an innocent man.
That being said, I have ZERO sympathy for the CEO who got whacked.
Yeah that's part of it, this is openly the Lords of capital demanding human sacrifice to scare the plebs, and I don't think they care who the sacrifice is
They are trying to make an example out of him to deter the ants and keep them in line. He shook them. If everyone starts retaliating against the rich, it's scary. Luigi’s totally innocent though.
1/2 No kidding. If he goes to prison, he has as much chance of getting out as Mumia. If he dies, that really just drives the point home once again that as much as the rich use black and white to keep people from seeing the truth, the only color that matters is green;
2/2 that even if you had as much as Luigi did not even that would save you from our current healthcare system. That that’s exactly how Trump and Co. like it.
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the other targeted someone who's part of the class that rules the country; luigi's actions might inspire others to follow suit
that'd be very dangerous to the capitalist class
https://www.luigimangioneinfo.com
If you don't think you live under authorizationism, I hope this helps you realize it.
that’s the message I get from this juxtaposition.
The government cares more about the life of one rich guy than the combined lives of all our school children.
Just saying we outnumber these cunts a thousand to one and they literally couldn’t stop us from just throwing them into the Boston harbor as the founders intended
Contact info is at the bottom
http://keithself.house.gov/
That's the level of elephantine clumsiness
There are a million and a quarter prisoners in the US. Plenty of prisons.
But eliminating the evils of corporate authoritarianism might be worth it. Either way it goes, gotta milk them for hefty taxes, tho.
But if the CEOs are all killed and/or taxed, how would they profit?
Thanks America.
Just another reason he should get executed. We can literally kill the real life chudjack.
The is no department of justice in the US.
Ministry of Peace -> Wages war
Ministry of Truth -> Produces propaganda
Ministry of Love -> Enforces loyalty by fear
Department of Justice -> Inflicts injustice...
We, as a country, really need to start taking over the streets everywhere.
So much boils down to race. The first (ethnic) guy killed a white guy. The second white guy killed non-whites.
That's their math, not mine. Really simplifies the sentencing doesn't it?
But he is, and those who benefit from capitalism want to murder him anyway, because he threatened capitalism.
Huh.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly_on_violence
End capital punishment.
That is merciful of them. I could not do it, for him.
The DOJ decided to investigate a state charge and charge them as a federal Terrorist charge.
Despite it being a solo shooter, who killed *one* person. It wasn't terrorism. It was Homicide.
We laud the large, condemn the lesser…
Stern Justice, blinking giant vices,
The petty culprit sacrifices.»
or in a shorter way :
"the Fable shews you poor Folk's fate
Whilst Laws can never reach the Great"
it's French :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Animals_Sick_of_the_Plague
2. That's REALLY fucking funny though
History forgets intentions, and cares only for events.
It sucks, but that's how things happen.
You gotta wonder how many more behind closed doors support him. And how many more at least sympathize and understand.
You’re very likely in the minority here.
You’re gonna support this guy getting murdered but not the other? And you think that’s morality?
But you’re condemning him not as a matter of justice but as a matter of philosophical immorality. Which means, you’re a fucking stooge.
He took one life.
How many lives did the other man take, by ordering his employees to deny coverage?
I can give you credit for trying to be moral, but then we must be fair.
I wonder how many lives were lost at the hands of that company.
The right answer is that murder and cruelty are wrong, and in this case they both are.
If you can only side with the rich CEO, it says quite a bit about you.
Folk heroes inspire grassroots action.
That scares the hell out of oligarchs.
We can give critical support to Luigi AND the person that shot and killed that CEO
That being said, I have ZERO sympathy for the CEO who got whacked.
That’s Fd up
Wait… That’s FUCKED up