I feel like “we can no longer trade with China” is really not being priced into the market reaction here
pretty sure they think they can bully him out of that too but I’m not sure I’d take that bet, China seems uninterested in giving him a PR win
pretty sure they think they can bully him out of that too but I’m not sure I’d take that bet, China seems uninterested in giving him a PR win
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China makes five year plans, famously
China doesn’t ‘feed its people via drone’ we don’t even have them for food delivery yet
https://www.thinkchina.sg/technology/drones-and-robots-technological-aids-during-shanghai-lockdown
https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/06/shanghai_lockdown_robots/
Though larger deployment didn't go well for aerial drones
https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/article/3177170/coronavirus-chinas-drones-fail-deploy-during-shanghai-lockdown-aerial
Secretary of Labor throws Party at taxpayer expense.
Co President Musk wields chainsaw to celebrate firing thousands of employees.
Social Security on life support.
Tariffs threaten economy.
Not good.
https://www.axios.com/2025/04/11/consumer-confidence-tariffs-trump-prices
https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/roseville-urination-verizon-arrest/
We need to train machinists to build machine tools to build the factories to replace our trading partners.
That’s a 20 Year Plan that is more realistically a 50 Year Plan to really gel, and the GOP thinks it’ll take weeks.
That company could provide stable jobs that enhance communities and strengthen the nation. Become a beloved center of the economy.
But we got sociopathic management and precarious temps instead.
corporate culture, and it is clearly the product of diseased minds - a laboratory for abusing laborers.
And almost every other tech company shares those values.
It's a game of chicken, of whether the US can stay irrational longer than China can tolerate it, and the problem is that it feels like it's a game of chicken where there IS a train and we're the ones seated squarely on the track and refusing to move
and they're also being piloted by serious adults with actual plans...
Wonder if they'll stop messing around with Taiwan, beyond lukewarm internal forumlae, and instead take a stroll north. Nice resource-rich eastern province, Vlad; would be a shame if you didn't have an army to guard it with.
The U.S. is making a halfway competent dictatorship look like Nirvana.
#BuildtheResistance
Seems to be a lot of that going 'round these days:
Or in other words, why bother wasting effort fighting your chief rival when you can win by simply ignoring them?
He certainly claimed they were different countries earlier.
I feel like this might not go well
Even though 1919 Russia is not quite the same as 2025 China on a few points (on most points actually)
China will not play rumps game with tariffs
Trump doesn't understand 'shame', dignity or resolve.
He's overplayed his hand AGAIN and is making himself look like a fool ... AGAIN.
Heard in a French church: "Unfortunately the statues were destroyed during the Revolution".
But in Belgium: "The FRENCH came and destroyed OUR statues!"
(source: mother, grew up in Belgium)
So I can't see an assault on China's economy as a Good Thing.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/263661/export-of-goods-from-china/
If in fact these numbers are correct, they definitely are not worried
https://bsky.app/profile/cwebbonline.com/post/3lmgeafhyyk23
If we wall ourselves off there is a lot of stuff we simply cannot get anymore.
If China walls itself off...they're fine--the manufacturing is there!
Trump is an idiot. #Tariffs
The US can find cheap products from alternative sources, like India.
China's struggling economy desperately needs the US market, where it sends $500B in exports annually.
China cannot find a new home for $500B in exports.
Agreed. They are undercounting whether / how much China will play ball. I think they will but not easily, or generously.
Then I suspect the market thinks the Mag7 and others might be able to bribe Trump with stuff and get him to make exceptions. Which might get a reprieve for lots of the market.
The lower middle class and the poor will be priced out of just about everything in short order.
What do you think?
I don't expect him to, but he totally could 🤷
Now, China is negotiating with the EU to sell EVs that are not Teslas.
It would seem that buying the president and f*cking over US citizens was not a good return on investment Elon planned.
China's economy is struggling & their population is extremely lopsided in terms of age distribution due to decades of their 1-child policy.
That fat orange dickhead won't win a trade war with China.
its literally insanity
china basically is saying fuck off usa and last i checked ONLY vehicles got tariff here in canada on china
AND those made here get no tariff
and cant be exported
that satisfies eu and usa
but sticks to yankie car makers
where we might incentivize some of our minerals and resources to eu partners for a build it here
Thinking is beyond the abilities of this administration.
- https://vaibhawvipul.github.io/2025/04/08/Open-Source-A-hedge-against-tariffs-and-geopolitics.html
(If I'm remembering PerunAU's presentation about the JSDF correctly.)
Not great for the rule of law folks, not great at all.
The fact that America is a garbage-tier investment going forward is tomorrow's problem.
It's not enough that the good guys win, we aren't trustworthy until we tackle the systemic rot that lets men like Trump be nominated at all.
Nobody here seems to want to 🤷
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/south-korea-china-japan-agree-promote-regional-trade-trump-tariffs-loom-2025-03-30/
#trump will likely make #tesla exempt from tariffs
None of these rich guys listened in economics class.
Never pick a fight with your bank. You can’t win.
That's 40% of trade still broken during these 90 days by eye watering tariffs & the rest of the world remains damaged too, just less damaged than before.
Trumps just shown he's a paper Wotsit.
It leads to them taking over trade with the EU and the rest of the world.
It's not a trade war, it's a lesson for Trump.
You have been warned.
Other countries and markets will take china's place.
8 billion people. Half are hungry.
If china does not want to reduce prices, there are plenty of hungry people who want the job.
90% of China products are low-tech jobs easily replaced with other countries.
https://nationalinterest.org/feature/what-chinas-dominance-electronics-manufacturing-means-us-national-security-212290
They'll take a little discomfort now in return for letting America run down its economy. After all, they can still trade with the rest of the world, who are all now looking for an alternative to America. They'll be fine. They want this.
https://bsky.app/profile/seej500.bsky.social/post/3lmfihswyzs2m
Think China still owns more than enough T bonds to call that tune whenever it wishes.
Trump can lie about 75 anonymous countries doing that, but not when there’s only one country left.
Trump will continue to shock the economy for four more years, but he will blink if he really thinks it's in danger, and he has just lost a lot of political capital, and friendshoring is probably the next result here.
Only very bad thing is we may be accelerating/tilting into an invasion of Taiwan
Not their first rodeo. They have been around for thousands of years. America is a child with an incompetent braggart for a president; a nobody.
China will crush Trump like a bug and the US economy with him. They're up for the long haul. Is Trump? Na.
Yuan crashed
Their economy was in big trouble before and worse now
China is liked. But not WELL-liked
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2025/04/08/donald-trump-has-just-blown-up-chinas-economy/
But that required the US to not self-immolate.
Having allies from different cultures creates a more resilient economic structure. Companies are full of people who learnt different skills in different schools - smashing ideas together more effectively than a monoculture.
Putin thinks he’s clever by having his minions do his dirty work.
Only fools trust Russia.
I want to see him try to cut off all trade with China, just for laughs.
Almost all Christmas decorations in the USA come from China. Chinese businesses say it's about this time of year they get orders from American suppliers. They've gotten none.
And put the country unto depression.
Unfortunately a lot of the world will sink with them.
WE GET LIKE ALL OUR GOOD TEA FROM CHINA
FUCK
Weren’t we allies with China
Long game here.
The US should sit down.
Our media has been lying to us for four decades now.
If one guy, a failing multiple convicted felon can destroy us, we we not that strong to begin with.
Two tiered justice and tax labor only.
It wasn’t ever just “us”.
Americans will be starving in the streets while the Chinese Army is handing out food and medicine.
the stone they’ve been bleeding is running dry.
https://electrek.co/2025/04/10/china-just-won-the-ev-race-due-to-trump-its-now-negotiating-closer-trade-with-eu/
The black market is going to explode