take the law that says we'll invade The Hague and cross out The Hague and put in El Salvador (or any other home to future Trump gulags) - ThreadSky

fleerultra.bsky.social • 4 days ago

take the law that says we'll invade The Hague and cross out The Hague and put in El Salvador (or any other home to future Trump gulags)

Reposted from Marc Elias

"Over the weekend, Trump endorsed sending U.S. citizens to El Salvador prisons." www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/...

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consumerwatch.bsky.social•4 days ago

Why is #Trump getting away with this.

helmutjr.bsky.social•4 days ago

https://youtube.com/watch?v=XklICUysFl8

helmutjr.bsky.social•4 days ago

https://youtube.com/watch?v=XklICUysFl8

doncomer.bsky.social•4 days ago

The SCOTUS is packed w/ right-wingers, yet that isn't enough for Trump. The power-hunger is limitless. He wants it all. You'd think, since his own partisans dominate, he'd follow their rulings, but no. Even his robed lackeys have to grovel for him. Trump brushes off "checks & balances" like lint.

jamellebouie.net•4 days ago

i kind of think democrats should announce that once they take power they will invade any country that hosts american citizens in trump gulags

andydashiell.bsky.social•4 days ago

If Dems get back in power they’re going to have to focus on the boring nuts & bolts aspects of re-establishing and restoring basic govt functions & norms. The GOP will spend that time making the political media equivalent of fart sounds and bc that’s funny & not boring to certain people who vote…

adams-hurta.bsky.social•4 days ago

Hell, if Democrats take back Congress in 2026 they should perhaps declare war on El Salvador in 2027.

jortscity.bsky.social•4 days ago

roosefella.bsky.social•4 days ago

the people of el salvador have suffered enough.
the cia is perfectly capable of assassinating 1 central american leader and leaving it at that.

shinery.bsky.social•4 days ago

If the Democrats are ever back in power, what they need to do to make up for the complete capitulation on immigrant rights is to give complete unilateral citizenship to undocumented immigrant, migrant, asylum seeker and refugee in the country.

ghostpalmtechnique.bsky.social•4 days ago

US persons, not just US citizens.

roosefella.bsky.social•4 days ago

and subject their leadership to the full force of american law (or missiles with knives on them)

didn't we invade panama to put that one guy in prison?

deadersesq.bsky.social•4 days ago

And Permanent residents! And undocumented that have a plausible link to the US, because they're people too and have interests and rights here even without legal status

pophouse.bsky.social•4 days ago

that is a reasonable position to take, but sounds so very far from something any democrat close to power would ever say

reallukem.bsky.social•4 days ago

would love this but it’s basically unimaginable with people like Slotkin being teed up as the next generation of “leaders”

elkmovie.bsky.social•4 days ago

I mean yeah but a 25% chance of being invaded based on the whims of a confused mercurial US public is still enough to worry about

zucko.bsky.social•4 days ago

seeing this written out is some grim shit

reallukem.bsky.social•4 days ago

more likely they’ll scramble to make a Trumpian war with Iran bipartisan sadly

merovingians.bsky.social•4 days ago

the last time we deposed a tinpot latin american dictator for harming Americans was the reagan administration

reallukem.bsky.social•4 days ago

HW gave it the old college try

merovingians.bsky.social•4 days ago

well, reagan's veep at least

whiskeynachos.bsky.social•4 days ago

Noriega was Bush Sr.

dankeevy.bsky.social•4 days ago

Chavez was Obama.

merovingians.bsky.social•4 days ago

in 2002?

merovingians.bsky.social•4 days ago

i thought it was 88 huh

reallukem.bsky.social•4 days ago

Bush sr vibrating in his grave as one of our most forgettable imperial presidents lol

takemyadvice.bsky.social•4 days ago

I'd also like similar statements about the big law firms and universities that are complying with him. Enjoy the trough while you can, little hogs, because there's an expiration date on it!

joestanley.org•4 days ago

I wish I had a compelling motive for why Democratic leadership are not putting out specific variants on “There will be consequences for collaborators when we reclaim power” messaging other than moral and operational weakness.

owlectric.bsky.social•3 days ago

Total cowardice, bad advice from out of touch geriatric consultants more interested in padding their bank accounts rather than winning elections, lack of interest in the opinions of anyone making less than $5 million/year.

escapedexplorer.bsky.social•4 days ago

Unironically need to promise Bukele or his remains will be dropped on the ICC steps

You collaborate with our authoritarian regime in disappearing Americans to foreign torture gulags? You are on liberal democracy's shitlist now and forever, and liberal democracy figured out how to weaponize the SUN

aspirationalbob.bsky.social•4 days ago

Lol an american politician making threats about the use of the ICC

escapedexplorer.bsky.social•4 days ago

We Will Be Greeted As Liberators but unironically. And we need to document and publicly disseminate every moment of liberating them the same way they documented the camps in Europe. Because they will try and bury it.

oseanmemes.bsky.social•4 days ago

Honestly, we wouldn’t be greeted as liberators by most Salvadorans. Bukele has massive popular support from the populace because of how dysfunctional the country was before him.

That’s their problem, though. I don’t care about liberating them, I want them fucking punished.

alexandergruchala.bsky.social•4 days ago

Definitely a non-zero chance El Salvador ends up the Gaza of the Americas, a situation no one wants but could end up happening anyway.

escapedexplorer.bsky.social•4 days ago

Presuming the "them" in your post is "Bukele regime", I suspect that support is a lot softer than the numbers imply though, because he's also been torturing and disappearing his own people. Plus, "the last guy sucked" only goes so far for LONG term approval when the new guy turns out to suck too

oseanmemes.bsky.social•4 days ago

Dawg the last guy was de facto MS-13 rule, he’s the lesser evil in their eyes for a reason. Almost every Salvadoran I know is a Bukele sycophant, whether they’re in-country or in the US.

ibombatomically.bsky.social•4 days ago

They should 100% do that

the-casey.bsky.social•4 days ago

The depressing reality is that they aren’t saying this because it would be a lie to do so.

adamsith.bsky.social•3 days ago

And this is far more justifiable than any tRUmp criteria for using military force.

nuclearneo577.bsky.social•4 days ago

I would also argue that any "leftists" who oppose this because "it's American looking for an excuse to kill brown people" are actually fascist sympathizers who would have opposed us invading Nazi Germany.

daringsteel.bsky.social•4 days ago

those leftists already oppose us having invaded Nazi Germany

sobekhotep97.bsky.social•1 day ago

Let’s be honest: it’s not leftists who would be arguing against that. It would be reactionary centrists saying that “Hitler has some reasonable points about certain minorities” and would be decrying leftists for wanting to go to war with them as being “woke” and “identity politics obsessed”

daringsteel.bsky.social•1 day ago

They call themselves leftists, use leftist symbols & language, and hang out in leftist spaces with other leftists. By any reasonable standard, they are leftists. To get a metric by which you could declare them Not True Leftists, you would have to construct it backwards from that conclusion.

sobekhotep97.bsky.social•1 day ago

I assure you they don’t use leftists symbols or language. Quite the opposite as their rhetoric is almost indistinguishable from the far right. And they always end up coming out as Trump supporters eventually.

By no standard at all are reactionary centrist leftist.

fiftyburger.bsky.social•4 days ago

Just straight up run on dropping a jdam on bukele.

blobodelendaest.bsky.social•3 days ago

A MOAB. Really make a statement.

ethanjacobs.bsky.social•4 days ago

Hell yes

https://bsky.app/profile/ethanjacobs.bsky.social/post/3lmiv5csn4c2c

drdietcoke.bsky.social•4 days ago

Just drone strike the presidential compounds in El Salvador, spring open the prisons and leave

grumdholt.bsky.social•4 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/grumdholt.bsky.social/post/3llqsf3zgrc2d

aaronhuertas.bsky.social•4 days ago

After J6 Pelosi had a defacto shadow president / opposition leader role that’s truly open to Schumer and Jeffries. The cost of threatening stuff is zero and would certainly make some actors think twice about doing illegal stuff with Trump.

jmteo.bsky.social•4 days ago

Jeffries should 100% start telegraphing shit bc I think it’s baked in at this point that he will be Speaker after 2026

apurbachakraborty.bsky.social•4 days ago

Do you think states like Texas, where plenty of House Reps come from, are going to have free and fair elections next year? I do not.

bleaksigilkeep.bsky.social•4 days ago

Oh well guess we just shouldn't do anything

apurbachakraborty.bsky.social•4 days ago

There’s a big difference between this and his being speaker being “baked in.”

sfaccountant.bsky.social•4 days ago

Yes, I do, and even if they don't there is zero benefit to making that assumption ahead of time.
Expect elected representatives to act like elected representatives, and then thrash them if they don't.

walterdragon.bsky.social•4 days ago

Most Americans love the gulags though, they just think it will be for people with more melanin than them.

paulgowder.bsky.social•4 days ago

Seriously. A country that actually defended its citizens wouldn't even need to announce that. Imagine if someone put French citizens in a gulag. There would be Bérets Verts on the scene as fast as the planes could fly

andreaeagle.bsky.social•4 days ago

They thought it over and have conclude they prefer a merger with Republicans.

snabbkassa.bsky.social•4 days ago

That was already US policy but only for the ICJ in the Netherlands

silkscreenfiend.bsky.social•4 days ago

It is unironically coming to this.

hellscapenavigator.bsky.social•4 days ago

"our definition of 'facilitate the return' is going to include seal team six, just FYI."

throwingschlitz.bsky.social•4 days ago

YESSSS!

wishda.bsky.social•4 days ago

Adding “in conjunction with Brazil and Colombia who seem 75 percent ready to do it anyway.”

realbenisons.bsky.social•4 days ago

Maybe that’d be a good thing

But I think the higher priority is vindicating equal justice right here
For the criminal acts of our own public officials

That’s a heavier lift, I guess

prasad.bsky.social•4 days ago

Or at least missile strikes on presidential palaces

argumentative.bsky.social•4 days ago

R9X. R9X.

oseanmemes.bsky.social•4 days ago

Nah. MOAB the motherfuckers.

jonathan.caprell.com•4 days ago

I genuinely struggle to see how the people who have been trafficked to El Salvador come home short of American military intervention.

mattferrel.bsky.social•4 days ago

Aren’t they there because Trump is paying for them to be there? Can pay to get them back.

connorstedman.bsky.social•4 days ago

Unfortunately I don't think it will be that simple even if the Trump admin were willing to. The *whole PR point* of that torture prison, from the Bukele regime's perspective, is that no one ever leaves. It's a death camp.

jronc.bsky.social•4 days ago

He was sent there to die. That was Trump’s intent, and it’s likely he’s already dead.

jonathan.caprell.com•4 days ago

Totally. I’m saying, and I think Jamelle is saying, that elected Democrats need to make it really clear to other countries (El Salvador chief among them) that military intervention will happen when they come to power again.

connorstedman.bsky.social•4 days ago

Yes, that's how I read what both of you were saying, and I 100% agree - politically, strategically, and morally.

roosefella.bsky.social•4 days ago

the people paying el salvador to enslave them just have to tell him to make them available.

the problem is, those people don't want to tell him that.

prpenland.bsky.social•4 days ago

Bukele could have them on a plane home two hours after Rubio called, with one those giant family packs of Pollo Campero they sell at the airport. He’d just need the plane ticket and a few dollars (or fractions of Bitcoin) for the taxi and chicken.

prpenland.bsky.social•4 days ago

Haven’t we done enough to El Salvador? Even America’s Worst Boy Scout, Oliver North, complained about U.S.-backed death squads trained and operated under GHWBush, and the fact Bush lied about them, in his memoir “Under Fire.” It may have been the only U.S. op so brutal that even North was appalled.

ckjohnsonbk.bsky.social•4 days ago

WIth a crayon!

lampsofgold.bsky.social•4 days ago

I don’t think we have to be dainty about it, we can hand bukele to the people of El Salvador to deal with

possumappreciator.bsky.social•4 days ago

My understanding is that any President has plenary power to wage war if he or she merely says the word “terrorism.” Just make Bukele part of a bespoke FTO and go nuts

vituperativeerb.bsky.social•4 days ago

Woke CIA (laudatory)

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