Dear Europe: You are next on the hit list. Good arguments, preemptive concessions, appeals to friendship, and flattery will not protect you. Discard those fantasies and prepare to hit back hard.
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Well...let's see how the techbros will handle it when EU takes off the soft gloves ๐ and how Trump will explain them why their business vanished in the EU ๐
US will do that all by themselves. First Canada, Mexico and China.
Very soon EU. And EU are well prepared for it and will strike back, hitting Trump supporters.
Putin will not be pleased with Agent Orange uniting Western Europe like weโve seldom seen in history: with France, UK and Germany aligning and that hard work on Brexit wastedโฆ.
We are prepared not only for a trade war, which will hurt all of us, but also for a real war with Russia.
Because I fear it will happen sooner or later.
But then I didn't understand, all this to get closer to Putin and Russia?
With the hope of driving them away from CIna?
They are insane
Telesat is a Canadian company. They should step up to the plate as a provider to compete directly against Starlink. Especially since they now are very likely to be frozen out of their U.S. service providing communications support to the U.S. government.
By all means. Telesat must compete and hopefully ruin Starlink. Musk is as dangerous as trump. Maybe more so. Down with both. Up with Canada and the EU. F musk and F trump!
US was important and good friend but as the clown of yours refuses to take his medication we will move on. We survived cutting the ties with ruZZia we will survive cutting the ties with US. There are many friendly countries kn the world
Weโre playing lips service or should I say Toddler service to Trump. Believe me as soon as he was elected, the free world started working on mitigations. We know heโs a Russian stooge, but we have to go through the process.
And I thought you fuckers regularly shot your Presidents?
Britain wonโt offer support to Canada, because if it did it would face US tariffs. So while Canada fights for its very existence, weโll get more fawning statements from Downing Street declaring Trumpโs America is Britainโs โenduring ally.โ
Trump is an idiot who sees everything as a zero sum game. He sees nothing to be gained from compromise or cooperation. Everyone, except Russia, apparently, is an enemy, and they must lose if America wants to win.
Europe must come together and create an alliance that does not need the US.
100 %. They appeased a man they knew. They know who he is. A cruel sociopath with delusions of grandeur. Lots of folks die when that happens unchecked. I'm glad Europe woke up. We need them.
Imagine having had a terrible accident / illness and the joy of emerging from a 6 month coma to see your family and friends (who seem sad notwithstanding your miracle recovery) and thenโฆ
If you hit back with tariffs you are at risk of being hit with more tariffs. If you don't hit back with tariffs you are GUARANTEED to be hit with more tariffs.
Be sure of it. Europe is slow to react, but it will be persistent once set in motion. The new course will stay for decades. The USA will have a lot to repair after Trump.
I'm not hearing nearly enough about defence in the information space. Influence operations continue to proliferate in the uk... and it's by far the most successful line of attack.
I fully agree with this. Europe can and should act civil, but make no mistake, Trump is attacking hard. Europe needs to find new allies, solidify european internal markets and arm itself to teeth.
Plea from an American: EU, coordinate your counterattack with Canada, Mexico, and China. Hit the same companies and same red state economies in unison. The same American agricultural exports and tech bros. Torment Texas, Louisiana and Florida. Fuck with Meta. And boycott travel to the US.
The EU is a massive trading bloc. You donโt hold all the cards so donโt delude yourself. Civilised countries negotiate trade deals rather than making pathetic threats. Youโre untrustworthy. No deal sucker.
Von der Leyen announced that the EU has a packet of counter-tariffs ready to go when t34 announces tariffs on Europe. Plus an โฌ800-million plan to strengthen European defense.
You'd think he'd be pleasedโhe always said he wanted Europe to spend more on defense.
The actual trick is remembering that โmilliardโ in French & German is โbillionโ in US English (and in the last decade or three also UK Eng). I actually know this but I obviously can screw up when I donโt pay attention๐คฆ. Still, my bad.
No worries
History made us clever
We are studying again the
Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act made by repubblicans, 1930. When US imposed high tariffs to restore their economy. We won't forget. ๐
Mexico showed that they respect Arm twisting Trump by fulfilling all his demands. Yet Mexico got Tariffs. Yes Mexico deserve this and if European do the same they also deserve
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"an attack on one is an attack on all"
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Would make the bully think another time.
Now let let themselves all get picked up one by one.
This goes for Australia too. They seem to feel that Trump likes them so they will be ok. A pretty shabby response to a man who wants to abandon Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ. A country that has stood between Russia and the free world for years with their very lives!
Already happening. No sane people in Europe are buying Tesla's anymore, defence systems are bought in Europe, not from the US. American goods in general are avoided - Coca-Cola, Pepsi, etc. Warehouses in Europe are now marking goods with a black star, if they are from Europe..To avoid foreign goods
We could. But donโt want to. We are staying home from Florida this year.
(โSnowbirdsโ are a thing in Florida, thereโs usually so many Canadians there in the winterโฆ)
Pandering to the gangster man-baby's fragile engorged ego is not sustainable. Sooner or later someone is going to have to kick him in the vadge. If we undermine Zelenskyy, Canada and Mexico now then we'll pay the price later.
Letโs go with Canada! And stop USA commerceโs, Europe has power, baby, and money. If this is an economics war, ok Cheeto feel free to survive with an autarky (believe me, in Spain knows what are I talking about)
Boost #ceta with transparency and make a transatlantic partnership EU-Canada-Mexico, being absolutely transparent with the goal to improve markets and make the lives of farmers and producers better.
That's the goal as opposed to trump's imperialism.
Thank you. AFAIK there is now something called "The Bazooka" in place, invented by a crack team of humorless french laywers with impeccable suits. If that off-coloured clown goes after us with tarrifs, US exporters will have to file a 450 page document in 23 languages for every soy bean they sell.
โโฆ filed out in his or her own handwriting using a goose feather and pink document safe ink under supervision of a sworn in EU official not earlier than 24 hours prior to entryโ. Not our first rodeo here.
This should not have come as a shock to EU or anyone. Preparations to hit back hard and to boost defence should have started when the orange rat won his first primary. I am worried that we have lost an important year.
Europe knows better than ANYONE what real war feels likeโฆ.I bet everything I have they have big plans they arenโt sharingโฆ.you know how security works, right?
Yes. The reason we try to do it the soft way is because we remember what the hard way was like. But eventually we're also up for the hard way, if the soft doesn't work. What's that saying, "Demons run when a good man goes to war."
Carney would be an excellent choice. His knowledge and experience of EU/UK, his background in economy, as a Canadian with closer knowledge and experience of North America, it would be fantastic.
I wish EU had Draggi. That combo ๐ฅwould have been fabulous
๐คfor Carney. He is a good guy and was Governor of the Bank of England for 7 years. He knows the stupidity that was Brexit and the strength of the EU.
Mexico lacks any ground border with any EU nations so it would require changes to EU statute (Article 4 of the Council of Europe Statute). But based on the same statute, even Canada would be a stretch.
They have been working on it since Trump's first term and lot of the infrastructure is in place, the problem has been the fact that it has been so easy, (common language and good business laws), to trade with the US that Canadian businesses haven't taken advantage of it.
It's pathetic that CETA hasn't been fully ratified by the EU27 since 2017.
Only 15/27 countries ratified it. Cyprus rejected it, France has it in a limbo and I've no clue why the remaining 10 haven't ratified it. Italy is among them!
Getting it fully ratified should be the first immediate step!
The rest of the world should be united in its answer to US's economic bullying. Each country affected by these tariffs should refuse to negotiate individually.
Europe cannot rely on U.S. support, especially under Trump. Dependence breeds vulnerability. Instead of seeking risky compromises, Europe must strengthen its defense, expand alliances, and prepare to stand alone if needed. Realism demands action, not hope
Do we? At least in Finland there are still leading politicians who have said in the last few days that โit is not worth running after Trump's single sentence and speechโ.
I think sometimes it's not naรฏvetรฉ (how to spell in English??), but unrealistic hope i.e. I won't give up/if I say loudly that he won't do it, maybe he changes his mind?
#Trump is like #Brexit:
- Did he promise it won't happen? It WILL.
The same in Sweden. But I donโt know if the government is living in a dream world, or trying to be diplomatic (like that will help), or downplaying it to keep us calm (like we are kids who shouldnโt be bothered by what we canโt understand anyway).
Unlike tariff targets Europe is the actual enemy for Putinโs White House triumvirate. Like all giants Europe is slow to respond but the response will eventually be decisive. They havenโt understood how much strength and potential a truly united Europe has. Uniting Europe will be their own downfall.
The EU is exceptionally good at trade wars, using carefully targeted responses. They (so far) always win, including against the USA during Trumpโs first term.
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In the meantime, play along.
When the US economy & society has shot itself in the foot, we'll hold all their cards too.
Unlike many others these days I did study history and I know that usually ends badly for the aggressor.
Very soon EU. And EU are well prepared for it and will strike back, hitting Trump supporters.
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Because I fear it will happen sooner or later.
But then I didn't understand, all this to get closer to Putin and Russia?
With the hope of driving them away from CIna?
They are insane
Just like we do with other enemy oligarchs.
And I thought you fuckers regularly shot your Presidents?
Europe must come together and create an alliance that does not need the US.
The wake up call from overseas is loud and clear.
Donald Trump and his buddies will not recover from the hits.
Wake up and smell the covfefe, MIC...
For the love of God, please hit our pockets before the systematic killing starts.
You'd think he'd be pleasedโhe always said he wanted Europe to spend more on defense.
And that's just the EU, not the individual countries
We're doing our best but it's taking a couple of days ๐ฌ
History made us clever
We are studying again the
Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act made by repubblicans, 1930. When US imposed high tariffs to restore their economy. We won't forget. ๐
Just a gross country.
"an attack on one is an attack on all"
such
๐ช๐บalready now siding with ๐จ๐ฆ and targeting ๐บ๐ธServices,
๐จ๐ฆturning off supplies when ๐ช๐บgets targeted, etc.
Would make the bully think another time.
Now let let themselves all get picked up one by one.
(โSnowbirdsโ are a thing in Florida, thereโs usually so many Canadians there in the winterโฆ)
-Love, Canada.
You woken up from a coma?
They hide behind nuclear weapons thinking they can treat others badly like the massive assholes they are.
That's the goal as opposed to trump's imperialism.
#ELBOWSUP
If youโre Canadian, please sell your timber and metals to us in the UK because we pay too much here.
https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-unveils-e500-billion-defense-plan-as-security-threats-mount/
Videos on CNN and/or YouTube ๐จ๐ฆโ๏ธ๐บ๐ฆ
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1. Ignore him
2. Be even more bully than him
Trudeau has been in Europe, a lot.
If Mark Carney is elected PM, and unless we're totally stupid he will be, he's signaled a shift to Europe as our main trading partner.
I wish EU had Draggi. That combo ๐ฅwould have been fabulous
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But Canada fits every requirement.
Don't know enough about Mexico, but love the Mexican people.
Only 15/27 countries ratified it. Cyprus rejected it, France has it in a limbo and I've no clue why the remaining 10 haven't ratified it. Italy is among them!
Getting it fully ratified should be the first immediate step!
But I believe we need to seriously consider pursuing EU membership.
NATO should suspend the USA until she ends the love affair with Vlad
Thank you for your observation which is spot on.
We know.
Love,
Europe.
#Trump is like #Brexit:
- Did he promise it won't happen? It WILL.
- Did he promise it will happen? It WON'T.
I think that is exactly what the UK is doing.