love to be on the “puritan left” because i don’t credulously take the word of a former online nazi who has never renounced his belief in “race realism” and openly wants to repeal the civil rights act
This is all down to a boatload of religious extremists crossing the Atlantic after England (historically frequently religiously extreme as fuck) said "GTF weirdos".
For the avoidance of doubt, the modern puritans wear red hats.
I remember when Glenn Beck claimed he had changed and the media 100% went with it except Bob Garfield of On the Media on NPR and the dude just was not buying it and would not pretend he was and questioned him extremely aggressively
it's not even a new trick: hanania's just reverted to the kind of pre-trump 'libertarian' who pretends that their desire to repeal civil rights is actually about federalism or whatever instead of blatant racism.
Damage done, son. Sorry is never enough, only a life of action to repair the damage done will suffice. If they get away with sorry they'll do it again.
Just a thought... Add another first for Trump. The first every Class Action Lawsuit of 75M+ Americans who feel MAGA, Trump, and billionaires are trampling on their civil liberties, with threats to steal their social security, impose numerous levels of discrimination, etc. Our weapon, Project 2025!
I opened that exact skeet in an incognito tab just to figure out who tf that even is, and they're still blocked. I'm guessing they blocked Jamelle at some point, or vice-versa.
I believe he did block them or vice versa.
I'm noticing that people on here don't fully understand how the block button works.
If someone is quoting another post & blocks that post then we can't see it & it says Blocked - like with Jamelle.
Uh… if being on the “puritan left” means respecting people for who they are and not giving a damn about their external characteristics, then I guess I’m in that club. Also, up is down, right is left, and green is red.
Even if someone with his views seriously did repudiate and renounce them all in a genuine change of heart, that doesn’t mean “ok now you can be the crown jewel of our opinion page” it means you do penance, go on probation, and stop trying to seek power and attention at every fucking turn
The kind of op Ed’s people who were formerly nazis and have changed should be solely about that and how to get others to change and they should be heavily vetted by non Nazis.
And it’s incredibly clear he does not feel bad and has not meaningfully changed his views on topics, he is just offended that white nationalism has too many stupid people now
Yup. For an example of what appeared to be genuine contrition and apology, look to Henry Wallace. Yes the segregationist governor of Alabama who was shot and paralyzed while running on a segregationist ticket.
Later renounced his segregationist views, and I don’t think he expected to be forgiven.
As a norwegian I had to double check his recommendation of Johan Galtung.
I just checked wikipedia, but there was a section about the white supremacist terror attack in norway.
Galtung said a lot of stuff, but also said "You cant read the elders of zion anymore without thinking of Goldman Sachs"
That barely registers by Hanania standards. Look at my profile if you want to see how loathsome he is. I'm not going to post that stuff in Bouie's replies.
And frankly I wouldn't want to to discourse with a guy who used to think I was subhuman even if he says he changed his mind. There are some things that are simply not excusable once someone reaches adulthood.
It remains absolutely fucking wild to me how many people seem to have radicalized themselves against the very concept of "judging a person morally by their words and actions".
And for disclosure, I'm one of those pissed off normie Democrats. Basically, you and your party have no idea what normal people think because you live in a bubble of your own making.
The "puritanical" view that being a Nazi is bad and a handful of apologies while still hanging out in the pool of people who agree with Nazis doesn't absolve anything.
I think Joseph Putnam of Salem (my 8th great grand uncle) was a lefty puritan.
He disagreed with the witch trials & threatened his cousin Ann, the main accuser in that whole mess.
I am a phony virtue signaler because I believe Black people are human beings exactly as much as I am. Also I’m doing identity politics when I say Jackie Robinson was a hero in every way.
Phonily yours,
online guy.
Yeah, I’m very confused now. Are we supposed to win by compromising our basic principles or something…? Wouldn’t that just be doubling down on what we already have? 🤷♂️
No. The ends cannot justify the means. Liberal democratic politics (the technical terms, not the political ones) isn’t supposed to be a team sport where winning and losing are existential issues for people. The problem is politicians playing power games, not that they use the “wrong” tactics.
If you ever get into a debate with someone to the left of you on here, ask them. They’ll probably tell you straight up they think choice in sports and antizionism are more important than democracy’s continued existence.
The proper stance for individuals, the moral stance, is more important than winning elections otherwise you just elect a bunch of immoral assholes who are too chicken shit to do anything like the ones we have now
why should random people on the internet silence or compromise their beliefs so that democratic politicians who they may or may not support might win elections? and what evidence do you have that i specifically am puritanical?
I thought that once the quote-poster blocks the original poster, then none of us can see it anymore(?) Not sure if that's a bug or a feature of BlueSky.
Well, have u ever considered that you would NEVER find anyone to talk about the topics he discusses now that he’s more enlightened.
The “former” white supremacist is clearly the only source for his current positions, so thank goodness for his renouncement, or I’d never be exposed to the new him!
In the end, they imagine all the Serious Interlocutors on the left as white men, so obviously objecting to talking to a Nazi like him is just a pose or the result of psychological malfunction as opposed to simple self-defense.
He renounced some of his views only when it came out that he was the guy behind a racist online account, right? And he rose to mainstream prominence while openly posting race realism shit because a certain brand of Atlantic mag liberal believes in it.
As a Mayflower Society Member I welcome you to the Puritan community. We place a large value on accurate histories that show ALL sides and view truthful reporting of history as a vital tool for being a good American citizen.
"Don't wish for a lower standard of rights for people who are different in ways that make you or your supporters personally uncomfortable" is not what I would call puritanical.
In the US many foreign born doctors staff rural hospitals and towns. Cutting Medicaid will decimate the financial support of those hospitals and all nursing homes ( 2/3 of nh pts are on Medicaid).
Loss of the hospital, those jobs and health services will kill many small towns.
it's correct in this particular instance, but this labeler is known to have some technical issues - identifying people who have never followed JS, who only followed him at some point in the past, and I believe in at least one instance someone who had been *followed* by JS
Yeah I was going to say I don't see a lot of five point Calvinists at DSA meetings, but it's good to know it isn't all just being confident of salvation.
Also I didn't realize John Brown was a Calvinist for some reason I assumed he was a Methodist.
Rightwing radicals have gotten so used to gaslighting everyone in the Trump era, completely untethered from reality, that I doubt they are able to accurately analyze a political situation anymore. It’s a blind spot that can be exploited.
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(I know, this doesn't specifically highlight his racism, but he's *so much more* than just a racist!)
https://bsky.app/profile/coolhand.bsky.social/post/3l4wmmc3ial2z
*Interested Witchfinder General of the colony of Massachusetts Bay noises*
Unless this guy is actively working to end the white power movement in this country then he's still a nazi.
This is all down to a boatload of religious extremists crossing the Atlantic after England (historically frequently religiously extreme as fuck) said "GTF weirdos".
For the avoidance of doubt, the modern puritans wear red hats.
I'm noticing that people on here don't fully understand how the block button works.
If someone is quoting another post & blocks that post then we can't see it & it says Blocked - like with Jamelle.
Later renounced his segregationist views, and I don’t think he expected to be forgiven.
I just checked wikipedia, but there was a section about the white supremacist terror attack in norway.
Galtung said a lot of stuff, but also said "You cant read the elders of zion anymore without thinking of Goldman Sachs"
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/16/politics/cnn-poll-democrats/index.html
He disagreed with the witch trials & threatened his cousin Ann, the main accuser in that whole mess.
Phonily yours,
online guy.
The majority of them think “the proper stance” on certain issues - transgender, Gaza, etc - is more important than winning elections.
I trust you see how truly awful losing is.
If you ever get into a debate with someone to the left of you on here, ask them. They’ll probably tell you straight up they think choice in sports and antizionism are more important than democracy’s continued existence.
There's also a point where having the correct view *is* more important, because winning an election and then implementing shit policy is obviously bad
I think one of our big problems is we take the “correct” stance instead of the stance that wins us the argument.
I used to think they were one and the same. They are not.
That’s a ridiculous stance, in my opinion.
The very reason they cannot do anything is because they have no power. Not enough people voted for them. It’s a very simple concept.
If we had a House or Senate majority in this moment, things would look *a lot* different.
Ya see?
I do not see, apparently. From my perspective, you do not see.
Anyway, random people should compromise on the internet because the internet is this attention demon that feeds off of likes, shares, and controversy.
There are two sides. If you’re tearing down one, you’re helping the other.
Idk, I was less talking about you specifically and more of what I see on this app in general, on which you are extremely popular.
I shouldn’t blame you for your followers of the culture of this platform, however.
I believe this is a feature of Bluesky
The “former” white supremacist is clearly the only source for his current positions, so thank goodness for his renouncement, or I’d never be exposed to the new him!
The Speaker btw is a partner at Paul, Weiss and board chair of the Columbia trustees
Does he rat out the leader of the Puritans?
Gets 'em everytime
Basically Stalin.
They're right next to antifa & dammit now I have to update this meme.
Loss of the hospital, those jobs and health services will kill many small towns.
Leopards.
I'd include some of the anti-royalist side in the 1640s, some Levellers, Diggers, Ranters, etc
some Unitarians and Universalists
John Brown
etc
some of their views are retrievable some not so much
Also I didn't realize John Brown was a Calvinist for some reason I assumed he was a Methodist.
see also Walzer, The Revolution of the Saints
John Rees, The Leveller Revolution
https://books.google.com/books/about/The_English_Bible_and_the_Seventeenth_ce.html?id=pCMMAAAACAAJ
https://www.modernreformation.org/resources/articles/liberating-reformed-theology-a-south-african-contribution-to-the-ecumenical-debate-by-john-w-de-gruchy