Kamala lost for a lot of reasons but I think the biggest is Biden is a piece of shit who didn’t let the process play out and dropped our far too late. His arrogance damned this country and he should never be forgiven
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Flawed as she was, I still think it’s impressive the race was even close after the first debate. She wouldn’t have won the primary, but she would have won it if she had the full time to campaign.
Maybe. She doesn't have good political instincts though, she also lacks conviction and basic concern for human rights, refusing to break from Biden on anything despite Biden's increasing unpopularity.
Its like... do you not acknowledge a primary could have more than one woman of color? Like AOC is literally right there. There are in fact other women of color who weren't bluedog lock em up prosecutors with a history of persecuting the marginalized for personal gain.
I even made a (pretty sick but also cringe) Kamala edit to open my podcast when the beloathed pervert Joseph Biden dropped out! What do these people want…
people were excited for the first month! She was saying all the shit everyone wanted her to say and even kind of softening on Palestine! Then there was an immediate pivot and everyone hated her again.
Tim Walz really hit all the right notes: too well. Once they calibrated the dream moderate strategy they've been pushing since 2016, and tried to center it around Kamala who is not a leader, and has no talent for politics, they side-lined the coach instead of following his example, and it was over.
This is something I've been thinking about it really important to understand about the Democratic Party. They have a seeming contempt for demonstrating leadership. For them it's all about going along to get along, and elevating those who "pay their dues" and demonstrate loyalty to the party line.
She should have gone ham on the Biden campaign people. Once she left them in place her fate was sealed. But that was the problem with Harris from the beginning, she's an empty name with constituency or agenda.
Any outcome beyond going back in time has these types thinking the worst of you. Just more noise on the line that the signal has to work to overpower. It's always "where was the unity" type shit. Infuriating.
Conservatives are literally letting one guy tear the country in half with less infighting than dems and progressives on an average Thursday. We’re doomed.
Even dumber is the "didn't show up" is nonsense too. Turnout was even higher than when Hillary ran in 2016!
I don't think this kind of person is actually interested in fixing this or courting voters. I think they just want to lash out at people to soothe their anger.
I think the thing is, Biden was the best available torch bearer for the Obama era coalition, which included some "traditionalist"-types that swung the blue wall states. It was an eroding coalition, but it was good enough in 2020. For anyone else to win they needed to build a different coalition.
did you forget the part where he was at the back of the pack in the primary until the DNC intervened and had everyone else drop out so sanders wouldn't win it
I'm talking about a coalition for winning general elections, not primaries. The Obama/Biden coalition is built on appeal to a class of midwest swing voters. They have no sway in democratic primaries, but have been a major tilting force in the last five general elections.
Obama never lost to Trump, Biden only went against Trump once and won. Hilary and Kamala couldn’t hold the coalition, if you want to go back to my first post.
Obama won campaigning on universal healthcare, which is what that broad coalition was in favor of, that's where all the excitement around Obama came from.
Biden ran on opposing universal healthcare, but he had a pandemic, economic meltdown, national riots, and Trump pushing votes his way.
I don't think most voters are that policy-minded. 4 years of Trump, and people were nostalgic for the Obama years. 4 years of Biden (and more brutally, 4 years of COVID), and people were nostalgic for the Trump years.*
*which included the worst of the pandemic, but people don't remember it that way
Disagree. People weren’t happy with Biden and, when asked if she would do anything differently if elected, she said no. That’s why. Not everything has to be about race and gender.
Between this, the genocide, and allowing Trump to get away with his attempted insurrection, Biden is the one I blame the most for America's fall to fascism.
I’m surprised that the Harris people don’t hate Biden - he pretty much sandbagged her. He could have stuck to one term, back her in the primary and let her run her own campaign.
Might be a good time to go back and listen to everyone who said nominating Biden in the first place was going to be a disaster. Remember what names they were called? But they were on to something; we should all learn how they clocked him.
For next time. To see the next Biden before it's too late
Biden was installing Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court when Newsom was just a couple years out if college, long before his first political appointment. Biden was causing irreparable harm to America while Gavin was in grade school.
Huge head start. Can Newsom catch up? Do worse? Sure. Definitely
I still think the reason why he tried to run for re-election was to protect his son. I'm not saying that's justified, I'm just trying to find a reason for it.
Though the blame spreads to pretty much everyone who worked closely with him. They no doubt were aware he wasn't capable of governing/another campaign but kept quiet. And some of them are now trying to profit from tell all books about it.
The fact that Biden and Harris didn't leave the building the second that Trump made anti-trans hate part of his inauguration speech is all I needed to close the book on those useless fuckers. I hope Biden dies soon.
I wouldn't be surprised if Biden's big stipulation for dropping out was that Harris couldn't deviate from any major policies or say anything negative about him.
i recall reading at least one article that stated something like that
might have happened shortly after he dropped out, which is why Kamala's campaign changed their tune from "republicans are weird" to "republicans are our best friends, a vote for us is a vote for republicans"
Speaking as a Canadian: yes, that's what we assumed. In 2020, Kamala seemed to be positioned to be Biden's immediate successor. She was going to take on more and more responsibility, working directly with Biden -- that was the Democratic Party's clear, coherent plan.
DON'T FORGET about the biden administration that encouraged him to stay in the race, and hid his cognitive decline from us, so that they could cling to their WH jobs
Such an absurd unforced error. Just stupid. He said $2000. People expect $2000. Going back and saying "Well, ackshually you already got $600 so..." is one of the dumbest political moves ever. Such an easy dub. He had the votes for stimulus and turned an easy approval bump into a negative news cycle.
The decision to push the campaign forward on a 50,000 dollar loan for people rich enough to start a business and a mortgage credit for people rich enough to be buying a house was so insane too.
I firmly believe that they invented an imaginary voter who was a member of the middle class who had voted for Trump in 2020 but "learned their lesson" and that that voter was going to replace all the leftists they were losing by refusing to stop doing genocide, then devoted all their efforts to that
Lots of gaslighting there too. It wasn't just breaking the promise, it was indignantly browbeating everyone with "no it's not my fault you're too dumb to understand he meant his check would bring it to $2k total including all the previous checks".
The wildly sharper income cliff didn't help either.
I still can't believe people yelled at me when I couldn't remember where this article was from so I couldn't back up that he said he was only gonna serve a single term
Fair point… tbh I didn’t even think about a primary. After 2016 and how Democrats fucked Bernie Sanders I pretty much dismissed it as a serious exercise in democracy
For 4-6 weeks after she was nominated she had momentum, purely based on the idea that she’s not Joe Biden, and then her campaign spent 4 months moving backwards
In think did that all by herself. Idk about her staff.
I do know that she publicly, repeatedly said she wouldn’t change course and kept repeating the dems favorite phrase - which Bernie used last week - that Israel has a right to defend itself. Among other dumb shit she and her campaign did.
Totally normal people. Love how she says, “fuck the left” admitting shes on the right. So many damn zionists in this thread. Weird how in the Venn diagram Biden/kamala/hillary Stan’s overlap with zionists.
To the KHIVE everything is identity politics, everything is a racism, everything is a misogyny, everything is branch bernardians fault. Doesn’t matter what you say, they stopped listening, stick their fingers in their ears and start shrieking.
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Fuck these utterly despicable, loathsome people
I don't even remember what the fuck their complaint was. whatever, it's somehow bigoted.
I don't think this kind of person is actually interested in fixing this or courting voters. I think they just want to lash out at people to soothe their anger.
Biden ran on opposing universal healthcare, but he had a pandemic, economic meltdown, national riots, and Trump pushing votes his way.
*which included the worst of the pandemic, but people don't remember it that way
If most voters aren't policy minded, then running on good policies won't hurt!
To the death of us all
She has no other defining traits than her race and gender?
Really feels like he's just a corpse being remote-controlled by the DNC
Feckless
Oathbreaker
For next time. To see the next Biden before it's too late
It's Gavin Newsom. That's the next Joe Biden. Nominate that guy, and he will screw the pooch in all the worst ways just like Biden and more.
The red flag candidates are who you don't nominate. That's how it's supposed to be done
Huge head start. Can Newsom catch up? Do worse? Sure. Definitely
Though the blame spreads to pretty much everyone who worked closely with him. They no doubt were aware he wasn't capable of governing/another campaign but kept quiet. And some of them are now trying to profit from tell all books about it.
might have happened shortly after he dropped out, which is why Kamala's campaign changed their tune from "republicans are weird" to "republicans are our best friends, a vote for us is a vote for republicans"
Right?
Biden, at his core, is just an incredibly selfish man
lol
He was a lying little fucker.
-Genocide Joe, Jan 4th 2021
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2021/01/04/bidens-final-pitch-to-georgia-vote-blue-and-2000-checks-will-go-out-the-door-immediately/
I don't believe there was a single person who was drawn in by this. Just like, trying to invent an imaginary person to appeal to.
Like how he ran on a public option, to torpedo all the Medicare for All talk, then never mentioned that again after December 2020.
The wildly sharper income cliff didn't help either.
He kept the most accomplished Black woman in the history of our republic on a leash, and called her 'kid' when he did it.
He is who he always was
For 4-6 weeks after she was nominated she had momentum, purely based on the idea that she’s not Joe Biden, and then her campaign spent 4 months moving backwards
I do know that she publicly, repeatedly said she wouldn’t change course and kept repeating the dems favorite phrase - which Bernie used last week - that Israel has a right to defend itself. Among other dumb shit she and her campaign did.
We still having 50 feral hog problem?