After a discussion of what percentage of material can be considered material "obscene to children", which FSC says is around 70% on websites FSC represents, Kagan asks to get back to the questions of scrutiny.
So surely they would have the same concern about the explosion of oligarchs buying politicians and Supreme Court justices, and the explosion of online hate speech and disinformation.
Alito gets into a question of whether or not the ID verification at stake in Ginsberg - showing ids to buy porn at a store - burdens youngish looking adults who are of age but get carded because of how they look.
FSC says that services on the USER side, not the platform side, are preferable because the USER has more control over how their data is used and how content is filtered from minors. "HB 1181, (THE TEXAS LAW) does not address this."
This from the guy who sees (or pretends to see) no difference between sophisticated computerized algorithms to depriive black people of representation and 1968 Alabama.....
Besides the fact that Ginsberg was ruled on in an era before the internet and more relevant precedent would be ACLU v Reno and Ashcroft v ACLU... a physical ID check at the point of purchase doesn't create a record that the business is burdened to securely maintain against a data breach.
"in my day porn was simpler. a white lady had a big bush and was quiet while a guy did his business. and we liked it that way. nowadays, if forget to leave the pornography machine before looking up the news, i get an entirely different BBC and it makes me feel bad about myself. please end speech."
Things they didn't like:
Women who choose sex work, who are not forced into it.
Porn stars who had boyfriends
Porn stars I had a drink with at a convention (consent and treated like a human).
Women "enjoying" a scene in the special features.
The age of consent existing.
Lack of access to zoo prn
FSC should focus more on how ID checks will make things worse. Like 2 relatively mainstream sites based in America (PornHub, OnlyFans, and ???) will check ID and then teens will find one of the 5,000 shadier sites based in Eastern Europe or Asia. Half the internet is porn.
70%. 70% is considered obscene material to children. im sorry, but these biticshes are out of order. 70% is too high...... some cereal commercials are subliminal. imagine websites. the world's morals have ducked into caves. freaks and nasty old men.
Perhaps the crowd could be naked. I remember my prof in speech said to pretend everyone is nude so you won’t feel as self-conscious speaking. Never worked for me
Justice into flying his freak flag upside down seeks modern-day Gore Vidal for casual robe wearing + acerbic, epigrammatic essays & stuff like that. Robe provided.
I bought a bunch of old playboys at the flea market and actually, the articles and interviews are damned interesting. Mostly as time capsules, but still.
If you remember this one, make sure your Covid and flu shots are up to date, book a colonoscopy, and do some stretches because your back hates it when you sit like that.
God I miss when I was new enough that a picture of a gorgeous woman with a bare set of breasts and just a bare midsection as well could do it for me. Red Shoe Diaries when I was in Jr High was a godsend…
I moved into a house that had literally hundreds of old Playboys in the basement. I quickly learned that the old "read Playboys for the articles" wasn't totally a joke, like there was some awesome short fiction in there. And sure, it was nice to treat myself to a boob or two after each story.
The other day, the President-elect came to visit me before his felony sentencing so I could ask him a personal favor, and you’ll never guess what happened!”
It's before my time but I do think it's neat how historical playboy was kind of an adult male interest magazine on the whole that included both serious works and porn. Like the earliest US publishings of James Bond were in Playboy.
Did the Bond articles count as serious or as porn?
But yes, I recall seeing a reference (in a Mad magazine?) to a US president having been interviewed in Playboy.
Used to know an old-guard SFF writer who FIERCELY resisted those comparisons. Which was weird, because this was a guy who'd never made more on a story than the price of a nice dinner for he & his wife.
No genre writer supports themself on short fiction these days.
I like to buy vintage playboys, and I read through one that was from the 90s just after the LA riots about police brutality that is as true today as it was then.
Something tells me Alito wouldn't like that either.
Where the POTUS has been found guilty to not consensually grab a female's body part and there are no consequences, then adult humans should be able to watch porn made by consenting adults without the worry that their watch history and ID gets.leaked. there are free child protection tools.use them
And let's not even talk about governors who want to track females travel history or periods just to make sure they don't have an abortion...Hippa anyone?
I actually have really good conversations with several women whom I have met thanks to OF. Regularly. Those are the ones I pay monthly. That is probably something hard to understand for some but it is possible to want to have a relationship beyond drooling over their, admittedly, beautiful titties.
I share my art with them. We talk daily. I don't worry if I don't see NOODS daily. If I see pretty sexy pix? Then, I get lucky for some money but guess what? If I don't? No big deal. No biggie. It's not what I care about. But what we have? It's damn fun :D
The funny thing is that Gore Vidal would be the first person to call Alito a crypto-Nazi… as he infamously called WF Buckley on national TV way back when!
So this guy is one of your most senior judges??.. We used to have clowns like this in the UK in the 1960's..wtf is happening in America today..? Devo were certainly onto something back in 1978..
It does, funny enough! @jefrouner.bsky.social recently posted about a science lecturer who posts her talks to both YouTube and PornHub...and the latter gives her a much higher royalty payout.
But also I somehow doubt Alito has ever read Gore Vidal.
1984 Playboy had the interview with Steve Jobs. He would never interview with Vogue or Harper's Bazaar. People forget that the exclusivity of the patriarchal capitalist society moved leaps and bounds to make women uncomfortable in business.
I knew a guy who would post pornhub comments and then write uplifting predictions and/or advice based on said comment. They were always amazing but not amazing enough to keep me on fb
I wonder has he... I dunno... looked? I mean, I know these guys exist in the realm of Christofascist fantasy, but PornHub actually exists. Paper copies of girlie mags, not so much.
there was that stretch where people were uploading, like, stuff that would normally go on YouTube to Pornhub because it was less censorious re: copyright
You have to push out so much content to get the higher tiers, we just wanted to shoot when we wanted for fun. They made it so you have to fully commit to making it into a job to get the higher tiers. The old model was better
Rumor has it there is no earning per view difference across the tiers.
They have *so many lawsuits* going on &needed our $$$ so they rearranged things w/o asking (no SW union!!), depended on bootlickers & 'funfocused' newbies to play along so they could yank our functiontal retirement plan.
YouTubers have uploaded their stuff to PornHub for years. Either because their content fulfills a fetish (e.g. food reviewer/mukbang people fulfilling stuffing fetishists) or they're a conventionally attractive person so they'll passively get views anyway by the *implication* they get naked.
And sometimes the inverse happens where a YouTube version of something is the promotion for the PornHub uncensored. The chief example I recall off the top of my head was 2016 when Watsky made a music video for Going Down that had to go on Pornhub and then a censored version on YouTube.
(Though it should be noted that it's 'artistic' enough nudity that he also tried uploading the uncensored version and it's remained on YouTube for seven years without issue). https://youtu.be/Q9RS8a44uu0
There’s an easy way for parents to ensure their children don’t have access to porn. Use parental controls! Oh, but I’m sure they don’t want to be the bad cop, so they would rather have the government step in and make adults provide their ID only to have a fascist target them at a later date.
Yes, grandpa, PH works exactly like that. In between nude acts, there are attractive people reading their PhD essays while fully dressed. This is how grad students pay for their education without debilitating debt these days.
However I have to give Hustler publisher Larry Flint credit for offering big money during the Clinton impeachment for anyone who could give him solid evidence of Republicans’ sex scandals. He brought down Speaker Bob Livingston with evidence he frequented prostitutes as well as
big time “Christian” conservative Ga. Senator Bob Barr with evidence he had paid for his ex-wife’s abortion. She produced the check.
These hypocrites were feigning outrage over Clinton’s affair with Monica and trying to take him down for it. Instead Flint took them down. It was hilarious.
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No???
And so, "feminism ruined stip clubs because now they feel empowered and they want to be there. You can't enjoy that."
They basically all said consent ruined sex work.
Women who choose sex work, who are not forced into it.
Porn stars who had boyfriends
Porn stars I had a drink with at a convention (consent and treated like a human).
Women "enjoying" a scene in the special features.
The age of consent existing.
Lack of access to zoo prn
Thing is there's no reason Pornhub can't start delivering other content, they have the budget to expand in multiple ways if they wanted.
Start with lectures on "Precedent in SCOTUS"
The whole Internet is porn.
What's their problem all of a sudden?
The other day, the President-elect came to visit me before his felony sentencing so I could ask him a personal favor, and you’ll never guess what happened!”
But yes, I recall seeing a reference (in a Mad magazine?) to a US president having been interviewed in Playboy.
mildly surprising it wasn't JFK.
no, me neither.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/interview-playboy-magazine-nearly-torpedoed-jimmy-carters-presidential-campaign-180975576/
No genre writer supports themself on short fiction these days.
Something tells me Alito wouldn't like that either.
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It's a strip club for men whose wives won't let them go to strip clubs
And no one strips there. There’s no stage or dancing.
As I understand it, Hugh Hefner really did pay writers pretty well.😕
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/justice-alito-playboy-vs-pornhub-question_n_678841d5e4b0583ca53b6f7d
Thus cementing my early impression of him as a "dirty old man".
Whew, that was close. Oh wait I'm still typing
back in the day, Playboy was very profitable
Which mean't it could pay writers more
Which mean't that in fact a lot of well known writers published in playboy, and playboy carried a lot of what was considered tat the time great writing
eg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Lives_(novelette)
pretty sure they are gone now
But also I somehow doubt Alito has ever read Gore Vidal.
Holy shit, the implications.
In: “I can’t define obscenity, but I know it doesn’t have Gore Vidal-type stuff.”
Sorry for that - but both sides of the MAGA verse are going to explode then the Xitter incels finally learn about John Roberts.
Put more information, training and education where the horny (adult) eyeballs are.
They have *so many lawsuits* going on &needed our $$$ so they rearranged things w/o asking (no SW union!!), depended on bootlickers & 'funfocused' newbies to play along so they could yank our functiontal retirement plan.
Wait, no they didn't.
These hypocrites were feigning outrage over Clinton’s affair with Monica and trying to take him down for it. Instead Flint took them down. It was hilarious.
The People vs. Larry Flynt