I was vegan quite literally my entire life until last summer when I started eating chicken and fish for health reasons. I had my first drumstick a week ago and now all I can think of is drumsticks and how badly I want to eat 100 of them. It’s 1am and I’m up thinking abt chicken drumsticks
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Both products are added by manufacturers to increase the palatability of food.
Well played food industry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monosodium_glutamate
The science on UPFs is fairly sound and well established. Less about individual chemicals but about their general purpose and use in food.
I also think that to keep my cartilage healthy, my body needs the things found in… cartilage.
Yes, chicken should “crunch”.
Did I mention that my kids are vegetarian?
Don’t know why…
(Strongly suggest trying multiple forms of the latter if you haven’t already).
Wait until you discover Wings...
(Go with somebody to show you how—there's an art to avoiding the bones and gristle with one twist)
Or better yet meat outside the industrial farming of the US. (Assuming you live in the US. )
The secret? Sear your chicken breast over high heat for just a few minutes before turning it down to medium heat to finish cooking..golden-brown outside..super juicy inside.
https://fitfoodiefinds.com › juicy-pa...
(steps 1, 3, and 4 are all you really need—the rest is for the accoutrements)
https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1019580-seared-chicken-breast-with-potatoes-and-capers
Since the dark meat tends to have more iron some people might decide it’s a better choice.
I just did my first batch a couple of weeks ago. dearlawd.
Thaw, dry, oil. 14min @ 400 (flip at halfway).
Crispy outside, juicy inside. Delicious.
My son used to say he hated roast turkey until I talked him into trying a cut of the dark meat this year and he went back 3 more times for another piece.
and when you mix in seasoning, uff
garlic powder, cumin, annatto, salt, pepper, oregano, bay leaves powder, onion powder, tumeric, paprika mix
(adobo + sazón) = nirvana
Fat absorbs flavor and aroma. the hemoglobin in dark meat have more of the glutamates that tastes more meaty
Things are about to change!
Drumsticks!
If I had my way, farmers would breed a chicken with six wings. I bet they've tried, but it flew away.🐔
What about with food that are mostly unhealthy? Like people who won’t eat McDonald’s for a while and then eat it again and suddenly have a craving repeatedly until it stops on its own?
My mom is also mostly vegetarian. She only eats chicken because she has to. And when she does. She needs it to be extra crispy, one step before burning it, to trick her mouth that she isn't eating meat.
I really do
Do you live to eat?
Or, do you eat to live??
In recent years, have come to understand the stark difference……which went almost unnoticed until then!
I’ve never met a vegan who’s not taking supplements.
Vegetarianism is quite ancient and seems healthy. But I think the body just needs animal protein. At least eggs.
We need to diversify our diets, but “meat-free” isn’t a great solution when a very high percentage of women around the world are deficient in these three nutrients
My big issue is that everyone needs to eat less meat. It’s fucking our planet,
Maybe in the future, everyone will eat no meat.
But presumably as a step to that vegans would accept less meat being eaten.
And the tactics seen in this thread aren’t encouraging that.
2. It would be interesting to see you rip into a cows skin/flesh with your super sharp molar teeth!
3. Do you really want to highlight all the super awesome things our ancestors used to do? I can think of a few things that weren’t so great.
our ancestors may have needed meat to survive, you don't. you have sentient beings killed by the millions for pleasure, not survival
glad to help
https://bsky.app/profile/justiceforall.bsky.social/post/3lcxolge2xc2e
you don't know me 🙄
Would that I could have my "first drumstick" a second time 🥲
This is what you choose to use your platform for? Bragging about the slaughter of sentient life for your palate?
Veganism is a moral stance against contributing to suffering. If you aren’t vegan now, you never were. This is gross.
Not all humans digest the same. Just like there are lactose intolerant people, there are people who need animal protein.
Until lab-meat becomes as wide spread and affordable then we can bring ethics back on the table, for these people
It would also remove the number one cause of deforestation, saving entire ecosystems.
But it reminds me of something. Like from long ago being scolded that I was a sinner for not believing the way someone else believed.
Maybe it was a conversation with a cyclist. 🤔
Personally I wish there were more vegans. I think vegans like you hurt more than help.
I am the reason for billions of people to support a system of mass exploitation, suffering, and death.
You found me. Now you make take comfort in your choices, which are clearly all my fault.
You come off like the kind of Christians who angrily scold everyone that they’re sinners if they haven’t accepted Christ. They’re only serving themselves.
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It is likely she was a PB dieter who is conflating that with veganism, which harms the entire movement. A diet is easy to give up. Morality is not.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jan/07/honeybees-deaths-almonds-hives-aoe
I guess we can’t have a discussion
And what you're doing isn't "liberal politics." It's bullying. Have a seat.
You’re in my thread being self-righteous about “avoiding”people for having a moral baseline. Perhaps it’s you who needs a seat.
YOU don't define "vegan" & YOU don't tell me where/how to post. But never fear; this exchange is ending. Right after I mention that those of you howling "no health reasons to eat meat" sound like forced-birthers howling "no health reasons for abortion."
Sheesh you make it easy to choose who to mute and who to follow.
It’s not bullying to stand against the number one cause of climate change.
It IS malignant narcissism to believe your tastes buds are more important than those things.
I don't give a shit if I anger a queerphobe or a misogynist. I know they're not changing their minds. Vegan crusaders want to change minds, correct? Bullying others will not get that job done.
This "Vegan Daddy" dipwit is bullying the shit out of Taylor Lorenz. I don't grasp how anyone can fail to see that, OR fail to see that it's that precise kind of behavior that makes people assume that all vegans are self-righteous assholes.
He's not the Vegan Goodwill Ambassador, that's for damn sure.
2. Bullying anyone over what they eat is nasty and aggressive and, coming from "Daddy" here, looks a bit misogynist.
3. How this involves "a dem switching to Trump," I can't imagine.
4. I've known plenty of vegans who manage not to be assholes.
But the vast majority of people do NOT need it.
Progress doesn’t end when it becomes inconvenient. You’ll need to do more than fill a hashtag to effect real change.
Vegans make a real impact every day. Perhaps it is you who should leave, if that is hard to hear.
Just stop exploiting animals. That’s all we want.
Veganism is defined as an ethical movement to decrease animal suffering. I don’t know how your friend would be labelled, but it isn’t vegan. It may seem like semantics, but it’s important to distinguish the movement itself.
Veganism is ethics. Few people make the decision to stop being ethical after dedicating their life to doing the right thing.
Billions of people delight in their food choices, which result in the suffering and death of sentient creatures.
Plus, they aren't bragging, they are sharing their experience with a new craving. Deep breaths, now
If I take deep breaths, will you touch grass? Is that what the kids say these days when they’ve got nothing real to argue?
However, if one way of life causes intense, widespread suffering, and the other way of of life causes significantly less suffering… one of those options is objectively better than the other.
animals could all theoretically exist eating vegan as well, pooping as they live and dying of natural causes after a long healthy life free of causing other animals' suffering
But trolls people doing their best to reduce suffering.
This is shameful behaviour.
The modern world is built on a mountain of animal corpses.
Its just that point of convenience for you is different from other people.
Leather: seats, steering wheels, door cards, and other trim
Floor mats: leather binding or mohair
Tyres: Stearic acid
Dashboards: Liquid crystals may be based on animal cholesterol
Paintwork: May contain animal-derived pigment
Frame steel: May be lubricated with animal fat
Batteries
Lithium polymer batteries use stearates, a lubricant derived from beef fat tallow
Glue and other supporting materials in electronics often contain animal-derived products.
Gelatin,leveling agent and grain refiner in electrolyte solutions,also used in metal processing
Because your convenience still trumps suffering
That was bad, but, yes, chicken is tasty and it's my favorite meat.
https://watchdominion.com, until you do that your opinion is literally meaningless
or saying someone once-vegan was “never a vegan”
or telling me “I kill cows” when I don’t eat cows, AND was telling a story about having cut dairy from my diet.
Just goofy insults.
🌱🌏🌈✌🏼
#veganism≠diet ☝🏼
Don't worry, *they'll* find *you.*
Believe it or not, most of us bottle our opinions of your habits. Whenever I tell anyone I’m vegan, the amount of crap I get is endless.
Some speak out because we want a healthier planet.
specifically just me tho, im probably better than you
She was a vegan chef, vegan for many years.
She had rheumatoid arthritis and lupus.
She left two small children.
Diets aren't a magical cure all or strong preventative for disease, sadly.
Fuck cancer. And autoimmune diseases. And people who claim their diet or philosophy of choice will make you invincible.
I’m not vegan but I’m trying to eat less meat overall and more plant protein.
They gave me Iron Supplements. And I took B12.
Not Anemic, but close to it.
I don't recall the doctor saying "Eat Meat" so I'm with you there.
Heme iron is more easily absorbed, but it isn't required. Fortified cereals also contain plenty of iron for most dietary needs.
i have no desire to taunt you or rub it in or anything
I'm happy to commiserate over how tasty chicken is :3
I live in Scotland
Meat and dairy are the most expensive foods and ALWAYS have been.
This excuse above the rest is pure deceptive evil.
It’s a balancing act to get enough protein and I don’t care what y’all think. Go eat your celery stalk and I will nosh on my beef jerky.
Hope we end up with a genuine alternative to leather with similar longevity and durability someday. I'd happily switch to it.
Ostrich meat is said to be healthier than chicken or turkey.
I eat meat, but only fish & birds because red meat hates me. I feel 0 guilt about it, and even less so after reading your self righteous scolding.
Ew
SaId she woke up last week CRAVING BEEF. Ate. Craved more. Now she adds some beef, fish, shrimp & chicken to her diet but it's never ever happened before.
I have to admit to loving Dairy Queen chicken strips.
;-)
I'll stop you right there.
#carnivoresareweird
Some people with MCAS can eat as few as only a couple of foods or can only consume a hypoallergenic formula. Bc of that, they can't be picky
It's just making sure you eat the right things. Not one single reputable doctor these days will recommend binning off a vegan diet for health reasons.
If you let a movie/documentary rule your whole life and personality, there's something wrong.
What do you let rule your whole life and personality? Burger King commercials? Yeah…..something is wrong
Keeps all the juices in.
YUMMMMMMM
You can still eat veggies, but meats can be a good choice if you avoid it processed.
https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2024-12-18/newsom-declares-emergency-in-california-after-cdc-confirms-severe-bird-flu-case-in-louisiana
Glad to hear you've got other sources of income.
prefer
Superior rice
mixed with their Mash
just so you know
Maybe look up how much plants livestock eat and tell me again who's responsible for the vast majority of crop deaths.
Meat has a victim, plants don't.
Signed me, who was able to eliminate a lot of dairy out of my daily/weekly diet by talking to a few vegans who were being kind & HELPFUL, not acting out of hate to others for purity
Taylor’s approach exceeds Son of Gib’s in convincing other people to lean away from animal products daily and reduce consumption, which has an overall larger effect than 1 person shouting at others.
Just because you can't grasp the similarities doesn't mean you're right 😂
“Do you still think you were right to let that person babysit your children when it turns out later in they murdered some children”
But are you saying that people can never change a moral viewpoint that they have?
your purity test. So yes, self-righteousness. I made no claims of special righteousness for myself. But you made one for me and then shot it down.
Saying I care about animals, to then decide, no I don't, to then decide, ohh now I do again etc.... is moral inconsistency. Does not compute. It's pretty pathetic trying to justify murdering babies.
Being opposed to factory farming is a different matter entirely.
You can be perfectly healthy on a plant-based diet and by extension be vegan and yes both those things can be possible. But to pay someone to slit an animals throat and then claim you respect that animal is oxymoronic.
You might be able to be healthy on a vegan diet, but not everyone can.
20-40k edible plants; edible but not all of them are available everywhere and if you actually care about nutrition, your options are significantly limited.
Sure, you can take supplements I guess but there’s a reason the tub says that these don’t replace a healthy diet.
The livestock industry harms countless humans as well, and you don’t care for them either. 🤷🏻♀️
Or you can continue justifying murdering the only planet you’re loved ones have to live on in exchange for a few shallow moments of taste pleasure and severe health issues.
If we reforested all pasture land it would buy us decades to transition. Wake up.
She actually walks her talk and has integrity.
Stop letting your ego override your intellect.
If you care about anyone, children, family, friends, innocent people, stop funding animal agriculture. 🙏
maybe they're just projecting their anger they hold towards themselves onto us