Some federal employees who accepted Trump’s buyout offer are now being notified that their buyout has been denied, and they are being terminated instead.
Comments
Log in with your Bluesky account to leave a comment
Obviously they haven’t followed the rules. But all buyouts will have to be withdrawn without Congressional funding. TFG probably won’t be able to get away with all the terminations because of union contracts. He’s trying lots of things without authority but this is not the private sector.
I want to clown on the people who took the deal and got scammed, but I know a lot of them were folks close to retirement or who were fully remote and couldn't relocate.
why would you? the alternative was you're probably going to get fired anyway. clowning on people who had very little information to make a hefty choice between a turd sandwich and a giant douche is pretty shitty.
Afaik, you can get UE when fired. Depends if the employer fights it. You’re not supposed to get it if you quit, but again, the company can allow it if they want.
In many states there is no distinction between fired and laid off, except "fired with cause" (egregious reasons). Otherwise employers would just claim poor performance when they are just laying someone off, which would exempt them from paying the unemployment
No one elected him, I agree, but Trump sold him the presidency for a under $300mil usd. I no longer consider the country I was born in and once lived in to be the United States of America. It's remains are being reorganized into something horrible & far more evil.
Congress likely wouldn't ffund it anyway because it violates the Anti Deficiency Act (wherein the executive branch can't contract for services or doesn't have money for ...fed funding ends 3/14/25 at midnight). A government shutdown is expected.
I've been saying that a government shutdown is going to happen. They've redesignated who they want to be essential, and they'll be working without pay.
In a properly functioning legal system, this termination would be voided due to actual fraud being perpetrated against those who accepted the offer. Alas, if it’s an “official act” perhaps actual fraud is permitted now.
The original deal was that they would continue to be employed and work from home if they wanted in many cases until September or October, I forget which.
That won't effect their unemployment status.
Why do people think this is surprising? Anyone who has looked at Trumps past behavior w bankruptcies, stiffed contractors, and loan officers will recognize the con. The Art of the Deal was concocted by a ghost writer. The Apprentice was edited to make Trump look smart. Smoke and mirrors.
Trump and Muskrat not honoring their word? I'm not shocked. In addition - when the goons/punks show up - if they don't bring armed security, time to fight back - literally. It is quickly looking lime there's nothing left to lose.
I said weeks ago, "Don't do this." He will screw you, you will end up without a job, and they will find a way for you not to get unemployment. Why would anybody believe this fucking clown at this juncture in time?
Yes, you are. We all are, because everything is going to get gutted, so choose to fight or lie down to die. There is no third option, nowhere to hide, no safe course.
Okay, so let's think it through. Did you keep the buyout email offer? Yes, okay, good. Did you keep the buyout rejection email? Okay, good. Apply for unemployment benefits in your state and Ask AI or Google - Federal employees class action lawsuit. I don't remember where I saw it, but it real!
If they uphold the contract that they signed with me for even two months that will be even more than I would get from weeks on unemployment and again I get to maintain my benefits, which has to be a priority
For decades, kids have been left to get killed in masses at school to protect the second amendment of your constitution. Time calls for creating forces of resistance.
Or maybe they want a riot so they can fill these prisons up. They figured since the minorities aren't rioting yet, they need to turn the heat on some of these other groups.
I am starting to wonder is that is his goal. He seems to be doing everything to anger Americans to the point of violence. If the protests turn violent then he can declare martial law “for everyone’s safety”. Turning us into a military state and taking away more rights.
It’s definitely pitchforks & torches time but the #Resistance has to be tactical & smart. The Amish practice of shunning, silently showing your back & refusing to engage, is a powerful weapon. Instead of booing Trump/ers, shun them. The image would have gone viral if fans had shunned him at the SB.
Have been thinking this all along. I worry that in-person protests and marches will mysteriously become violent with planted actors and that will be the planned moment for trump to declare martial law, suspend the constitution, use the military against all of us and crown himself King for life.
It wouldn’t be the first time those in charge and largely opposed did that. He should think a bit, suspending the constitution will probably be the breaking point for the 67% of us who oppose him. All military took an oath to defend the constitution so that could move could place them on our side.
As hard as it may be to stand up at these time, I hope those that got f**ed find a media outlet to tell the country this is happening yet once again the cult won’t believe it
yes, I sign away my right to sue for discrimination or wrongful termination IF the other party holds up their end of the contract. if they don't, all bets are off.
Until there is a claim based on them not following through with what was offered we cannot know. Previous were just trying to stop it from going through
except if one party (trump) breached the deal, then it's not valid, right? and therefore, signing away rights to a deal that was reneged upon isn't legal valid.
There was actually a written contract attached for agencies to provide to their employees. When the choice lies between "take 7 months severance" or "stay and get fired at any moment with no severance" what was honestly the better decision?
Precisely. It was bait - inducing lightly-informed people to quit voluntarily so they lost all rights to unemployment insurance & standing to sue for wrongful termination.
I have a file just for these absurd "Fork in the Road" emails. They'll have to use a cattle prod and brandish rifles toward me if they want to remove me from *my* post.
The email didn't even include the name of a sender, just the generic "HR". All rules of official correspondence were ignored.
Good for you! Only a fraction of the 2M civil servants they are trying to get out by hook and by crook have either fallen for the lie or are simply tired of the TrumpMusk DC shit show & want out. #Resist
They had to send out the second email requesting people reply to it because when they sent out the first email, the lack of required correspondence conventions led to the email being mass reported as a phishing attempt by employees following how they’ve been instructed to deal with suspicious emails
In a few weeks they might be better off than those who refused the offer if their jobs are eliminated anyway. There's something there that a court *might* rule is enforceable.
Trump is nothing more than the Spearhead of an Elite Capitalist movement that is attempting to turn back the tide of world citizens that have finally come to the realization that Corporate Capitalism in no way serves any citizen in any country but only serves the Elite. So Autocracy must rule openly
Initially I thought it was smart (mean) to do the buy outs. Keeps them off the unemployment #'s, quiet and gives TnX more time to complete the shuttering, transfer of funds and coup. TnX either realized it's cheaper to fire or less court cases to fire. What are some other options for this change?🤔
Not a surprise. Anyone who thought that the buyout was a done deal was not thinking properly. There was NO mention where the money was coming from to pay for all of them. No money appropriated. So this should not be a shock that they are getting shafted by a felonious asshole.
Me and my coworkers decided to ignore the next TEN emails we received after the first one. Marked all of them to go to the junk folder. 4Q Elmo 😒
🥄💙💪🇺🇸
And this is why-- ACCEPT NOTHING -- from this regime is the only answer for them. They will rip everything offered, they are liars, do not fall for their grift.
This breaks my heart, so many of these people were so stressed and worried they were going to be fired so they took the offer. I did not trust it but I knew some who did. What a shameful act.
But impeachment doesn't actually mean anything. I mean he was convicted of what, 34 felonies and was still elected? And didn't they impeach him last time and he just went on presidenting? He doesn't care about the rules and laws. And neither do his gop lapdogs
While 😈🪃 WAS Impeached, the ONLY President to be Impeached TWICE, he was acquitted by the Senate both times.
Unfortunately, even if he WAS removed, VP, Speaker, pro tempore, & the whole Cabinet are equally evil & more competent.
While they wouldn't be as brazen & grandiose, none will...
...willingly roll back his abuses, aside from the one that actually triggered the Impeachment.
They'll continue undermining what's left of the State protecting the Working Class from the abuses of the 1%, just with more deniability & dignity.
Congress can impeach a President for whatever they deem is sufficient reason. The Constitution says "high crimes and misdemeanors". In practice that covers any kind of serious malfeasance.
But they are cowards and suckups. So this is what we get.
Democrats should literally just push for impeachment every single day if they lose do it again tomorrow bog the fucking legislature down with bullshit anytime Republicans want to do anything.
Democratic politicians need to just be fucking assholes for once
I want to see that, knock Mitch McConnell’s papers out of his arms and stuff him into a locker like he was being bullied in high school type of energy.
I wanna see somebody switch out MTG lemonade with urine
I want to see somebody put visine in hegseth’s iced tea…If it’s ice tea he’ll be fine…
You would hope. I think they'll get the wake up call when they reach out to their previous donors and those people ask them why they should contribute to the campaigns of people who have ceded all their power to the President.
You file for unemployment through state unemployment ins program, not fed gov't. Each state manages its own unemployment program & pays benefits. A whole lot of these fed workers are in blue States. Mass filing will make the records & be counted.
🍊💩🦛 Contributing to high unemployment #s- bad press
As someone who went through a court hearing to get my unemployment because I was confused by form wording and checked the wrong box while applying… they’re not getting unemployment.
That’s the Trump New Yorkers know well, who signs a contract then refuses to pay but relies on being sued so he can pay pennies on the dollar. A con man so bad the mafia wouldn’t work with him.
I don’t think this is fair. Working at the fed is very toxic right now. Especially if you have trans or immigrant loved ones. People are just trying to keep their peace of mind that is why they took the offer. Not because they support DOGE or MAGA.
True, most took it out of desperation, or to preserve their mental health with the vain hope it would be real. Of course anyone looking at the facts objectively could have predicted this result.
I have spoken to some who took it, and a person close to me on the inside also spoke to some. None of them were close to retirement, more mid-career and deciding they no longer wanted to work for the government if they were going to be treated that way for their service.
That's weird. All the ones I know were retiring anyway and decided to bounce. Mid-career sounds like a bad decision, but maybe they were under 15 years.
Exactly. No one knows what it’s like for workers in the federal gov’t right now. It’s easy to sit at home and revel in schadenfreude, but these hard working folks might have just been completely effed.
Trans individuals should try for political asylum in Canada. Although they were already covered under LGBTQ rights, Trans rights were specifically written into our constitution in part due to the nutjobs rhetoric.
Yes. I say that because there's tons of democrats in the military and when that man in the white house goes too far (which it feels super close) the military will fracture.
Ugh…I’m so sorry to those who that happened to. I can only imagine they were desperate to try and help themselves and their families as best as they could, even if it felt like a long shot.
So if they quit ,was it a trick so they would be denied unemployment too?
Am I a bad person if I hope they got screwed? I mean they still have that fat pension coming,right?
Unless Doge deletes it from the Treasury’s computers 😈
Why are you so hostile to people who thought the buyout was their best option among the awful options they faced? I really dont understand where you are coming from.
The "fat pension" you're referring to stopped in the mid 80s. Now there is still a pension, unlike so many jobs these days, but it's much much smaller than the old days
Answer: yes, you are being thoughtless. Apparently you aren’t old enough to understand the enormity of being financially responsible for yourself and perhaps children, a mortgage, possibly being in your late 40’s/early 50’s, & trying to find another job. Very, very difficult. Imagine that.
I understand all that perfectly which is why I would never take a buyout from Elon Musk who has already done this exact same fuckin thing at Twitter lol. these cowards at the Fed are the ones who don't understand their responsibility.
Everyone I know who took the buyout was 60+ and unlikely to find work in the private sector in their area of expertise. So faced with the real possibility of being terminated immediately or being able to work through Dec 2025 — no one I know believed they would be able to sit home - the buyout won
I understand that. Replacing a job in midlife is hard and finding one when late in our careers becomes very, very difficult. I don’t blame people in their 60’s for taking the buy out. I just hope they really get the money that was promised.
"In a sign of how chaotic the firings have been, some who received layoff notices had already accepted the administration’s buyout or deferred resignation offer, under which they were supposed to be paid until Sept. 30 if they agreed to quit." (From WaPo originally? Paywalled there.)
John Oliver did scathing exposés on Musk. The price of the first Teslas ordered kept going up. Musk sat there with his ‘lord of the universe’ smirk & told his first customers they had to pay more. All his fake timelines for self-driving cars/taxis, fully automated robots, getting to Mars, etc.
My biggest hope is that blue states band together and hire all the fired employees, even if it's only temporary, for them to continue to do their good work.
Honestly, this could all be solved by simply forming a second gov't made of Blue States and letting tRump and Leon rule over the ashes of the Red States (who I hope all starves to death for their ignorance).
I think you mentioned that was likely and urged people not to take it. I am not in the government and figured he had no legitimate way of doing any buyout. That is a bummer
Exactly this. We lived near Atlantic City at that time and heard dozens of stories about how he destroyed people’s lives. From the people he did it to. Disgusting psychopath
Comments
Typical Trump. 🤣🤣🤣
How did anyone expect Straatspresident Musk & his mouthpiece Trump wouldn't do this to the federal govt.
And America fell without a fight.
Now I bear witness to the apocalypse of the ancestors of their killers.
There's an dark irony in that.
Buckle up friends.
This will just be another of the thousands of lawsuits that will be clogging up the courts for the next years - at least until Trump abolishes courts.
So now will they be eligible for unemployment?
That won't effect their unemployment status.
What the fuck.
There is no way that we are going to allow these cruel Americans into our beautiful country. 🇨🇦💪
Hopefully that won't withstand court scrutiny though.
i really feel sorry for these ppl though
Think about that:
A REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO HAVE TO CONFISCATE YOUR GUNS AFTER IT DECLARES MARTIAL LAW IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN LAW AND ORDER.
https://popular.info/p/update-the-deferred-resignation-scam
The email didn't even include the name of a sender, just the generic "HR". All rules of official correspondence were ignored.
How are you doing!!
I'm shocked!
Listen up America.
Did anyone vote for White Christian Nationalism?
Anyone for Musk?
Did you vote to lose your jobs?
Well, this and so much worse is happening.
Wake up!
May this administration's demise be swift and severe.
The rest are all just rotten to their core.
🥄💙💪🇺🇸
It isn’t the art of the deal, its the art of fucking people over.
Unfortunately, even if he WAS removed, VP, Speaker, pro tempore, & the whole Cabinet are equally evil & more competent.
While they wouldn't be as brazen & grandiose, none will...
They'll continue undermining what's left of the State protecting the Working Class from the abuses of the 1%, just with more deniability & dignity.
But they are cowards and suckups. So this is what we get.
Democratic politicians need to just be fucking assholes for once
I wanna see somebody switch out MTG lemonade with urine
I want to see somebody put visine in hegseth’s iced tea…If it’s ice tea he’ll be fine…
Drugging anybody without consent & knowing their medical history is always dangerous, & almost always criminal.
This is literally "serious as a heart attack" - not something to joke about.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/01/18/how-visine-eye-drops-in-the-mouth-can-kill-here-are-two-cases/
It’s small and mean and bitter.
It’s the party that routinely votes AGAINST banning child marriage.
Because it’s also the party of pedophiles and rapists.
Disgusting
Morally disgusting
😂
Do I have that right? 🤬
https://www.law.cornell.edu/
Sic semper tyrannis
Are all these people being let go filing for unemployment???
🍊💩🦛 Contributing to high unemployment #s- bad press
It's exactly what happened at Twitter.
Do people know this just makes them sound like assholrs
Ugh I hate them so much.
- Nobody
Am I a bad person if I hope they got screwed? I mean they still have that fat pension coming,right?
Unless Doge deletes it from the Treasury’s computers 😈
Eventually, Trump Cos. wanted to buy direct, at a price that was far above what our customers paid.
We declined, and shortly after that, they folded.
So Sayeth the Lord.