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Which the person I was responding to is 100% guilty of. I've seen their tweets. They're not anti-war or anti-imperialism at all.
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I don't know if you are that way or not. Maybe not since you are criticising Russia for invading. The point I was making initially was simply they are the people who said it would never happen because Russia is the Good Side to defending why it was right to happen and even cheering it on
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He also said Ukraine would defend itself even without western support - a fact tankies also ignore because in their minds Ukraine has no agency and are just puppets. That's why I dislike them. Tankies are hypocritical, privileged and give more good faith to Putin than they ever dare to Zelensky
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Ukraine did not change position. Did you even read that interview with Zelensky that happened BEFORE your linked comment? He predicted Russia would invaded, but wanted to stop it if he could by deescalating the talk. Putin chose to ramp it up as was his goal all along.
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Zelensky's motivation was to stop an invasion happening. That could have been an off ramp for Putin. Instead he ramped it up. There was no attempt or deescalation from Putin when Zelensky offered it in Jan 22'. His Munich speech before the invasion outlined that.
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Your link doesn't say Zelensky didn't believe it. In fact here he is a week before predicting Russia's build up would mean invasion likely. Because it wasn't just US intel showing the activity by Russia
www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2022...
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And I say this because not even the Russian state TV people were denying their intentions by the last week of February. Tankies were doing more cover for Putin not wanting to invade than his own media ecosystem
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No it was a tankie thing right up to the invasion to say there was no chance of Russia invading - after Russia had deployed 100k troops on the border with military tanks and field hospital tents by that point. That had gone beyond the "exercise drills" the Kremlin spokespeople said a month earlier
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You might want to find out what Zelensky said at the Munich conference when Russia was deploying troops ready for the invasion.
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Every prominent tankie who said it would never happen immediately switched up saying it was all good and cheered it on. Including the dipshit OP since the very thesis of being a tankie is privileged people cheering on authoritarianism if it helps their ideology
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Yeah and the fact the three characters of that saga in 2019 Trump-Zelensky-Biden are the three characters of this one. But my abiding feeling is if the media has forgotten it, Trump has not let it go and it drives his hostility to Zelensky. Vance on the other hand is just a pure hater.
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before any differences on the contemporary issues of the day were formed. That is probably tinged in nostalgia to be fair, however I do think the Atlantic partnership was bound to be frayed as the people who remember what American isolationism was like are dying out
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A theory I've heard for years but which I feel more and more supportive of is that the post-WW2 string of American presidents/presidential candidates up until the turn of the century were all men who either served in that war or grew up with people who did so that sense of being a bulwark was strong
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Trump loves authoritarians because he wants to be one. Vance loves authoritarianism because he's a true believer that's how society should be run. I think if they were around in the 30s then Trump would have been defending Hitler - the man - and Vance would defend the ideology as more than one man
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These guys usually never have a word about North Korea deploying troops to help Russia's war effort. Probably because that makes it inconvenient for them to say giving Ukraine missiles = WW3 when tankies have a rosy view of North Korea as a bulwark against imperialism
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Buddy I've seen your tweets enjoying the suffering of others when it suits your ideological worldview. Maybe practice what you preach? Or is that too hard to ask for a film writer in Canada pretending to be a proletariat whisperer?
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Where this argument falls apart is it was Russia invading Ukraine that led to the first new admissions to NATO in about 15 years.
Finland and Sweden joined as a consequence of the invasion. So all those who use NATO as the justification for Russia are engaging in backwards logic.
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The person who runs that account apparently thinks Peacekeeping Forces as part of a negotiated end to the war is WW3.
Complete idiot and unsurprisingly a tankie
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Cheney's role was about talking about J6/Trump attacks on democracy and pro-choice on the stump. Not dictating foreign policy stuff. People who peddle that clearly didn't pay attention. Harris made no concession to her
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A lot of that "anti-war" vote was attacking them on Ukraine before Gaza came on their radar. Jill Stein was not an anti-war candidate with her views on that matter.
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I think this is an understated factor going on where because the most hyper-MAGA people tend to be people you would consider well-off in society. Yet they get treated like salt of the earth types. We never saw stories of Biden voters in midwestern diners when he was president compared to 17-21
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A lot of the January 6 people turned out to be lawyers, doctors, dentists, nurses, teachers, business owners, law enforcement etc. People in well off jobs and good homes. Flew contrary to the narrative even some left wing commentators made about it being a working class movement
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To a lot of people only liberals have agency and therefore they are met with cynicism no matter what. Everyone else is merely reacting to them. I see this a lot with left wing critics of the Dems acting like Trump's voters are downtrodden folks being misled as opposed to wanting what he is selling
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Your screenshot states that figure was a decline for Biden showing people in the party were moved for change. That disputes your original point. There's always going to be loyalists but 3 in 10 in no other context is a "large minority". 4 in 10 voters wanted Hoover to stay in office
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I don't believe rank and file Dems are thinking of what Neera Tanden, Donna Brazille and Mr Weeks 1982 have to say to form an opinion. Yeah they're pissed at losing an election and the consequences of it being bad which was warned. What political party in the world doesn't do that?
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This feels like a leftist version of Glenn Greenwald mocking CNN for low ratings while simultaneously saying Trump's unpopularity was because people fall for what CNN says. Can't have it both ways
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Funny I see more obsession and importance about what MSNBC hosts have to say from people who say they despise MSNBC than from who you call rank and file Democrat.
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The populist rhetoric doesn't provide any of that. In fact history - both in the far distance and more recently - shows they make it even worse.
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He must have been 13 in 2016. He can't actually have first hand experience and just retconning to match his priors now. One of the most insufferable people on that side of twitter.
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Those ingredients aren't just there to make one (1) burrito
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There's a large group of people on the far left and far right who simultaneously despise Obama while yearning for things to go back the way they were in 2013
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What stops you from getting it out of the tap then? You don't understand how out of touch you sound
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That guy works in digital media work. You'd have thought he'd have understood that given he's not someone spending his working days lifting heavy objects or doing blue collar work (a common theme among online revolutionaries!)
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They wanted the Keystone XL pipeline shut down. Biden shut did on his first day in office and the only people who talked about it afterwards were right-wingers outraged.
The problem with being transactional is it requires the other side to acknowledge you gave them what they asked
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Because while I appreciate that he led a global coalition to support Ukraine, the impact of Trump returning makes it up in the air if there will be a happy ending for Ukrainians. Giving Ukraine what they wanted in 2022, possibly winning the war in 2023, cools of the narrative of insecurity in 2024