They either weren't that left, or they aren't left, anymore. Prioritising hostility to minority groups, isn't that left. Like, it's one thing to acknowledge when some crazies within social justice movements say things that are nonsense. It's another to treat that like a pressing issue.
I won't ask why you think your politics are better, because they probably involved some all cake no broccoli thinking and a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker.
What it looks like: Radical far right, Trump tribe, about 20% of us, is at war with Radical far left, the ACLU tribe about 20% of us, and 60% of us in the middle are set up for losses. What is really happening: The Kremlin is taking control of U.S. Gov and 100% of us are getting set up for losses.
This except the Kremlin is poor and the real masterminds are our billionaires with no duty to or affinity for our country or any other really who hate us and liberalism
They merely conveniently use the Kremlin to accomplish their goals and want to partner with ccp long run
Fun fact: if you take every state where Harris had a reduced turnout compared to Biden & just GIVE her enough votes to bring her up to Biden's total in those states, & THEN give her every single third party vote in the U.S., she STILL LOSES.
You're doing the electoral equivalent of blaming global warming on people not using LED lightbulbs, rather than recognizing that corporations are responsible for 90%+ of emissions.
Read up on how the electoral college works. Do better.
Is anti wokeness the same as withholding a vote because the Democrats wouldn't stop aiding a genocide on Palestinians cause if you ask a liberal they'd say that is in fact woke (the bad kind)
Likely, some, if not many, of the 14.5 million who took the time to cast primary votes for the Democrat’s 2024 presidential candidate only to have their votes negated by pundits, pollsters, politicos, and Clooney, didn’t show up in November. Why would they if their votes don’t matter in the end?
Ignoring what 47 actually is and pointing out what Biden isn’t and wasn’t is the same nonsense that led to electing 45 instead of Hillary. The desire to ignore what is obvious and disqualifying about 45/47 while believing every lie about his opponents is something that won’t ever wash off.
No your candidate isn’t above critique. This bizarre cocoon you people continually wrap dem candidates in is far more problematic as it blocks out easy to see reality in favor of weird zealots like yourself.
Biden was gonna lose, so badly that Pelosi had to visit him to convince him he was going to lose. Harris at least had a chance. He had no campaigning energy and his brain was in sleep mode.
Any Democratic nominee would've had a better chance had Biden never run for reelection in the first place.
primary voters don't really get much of a choice. I voted "Uncommitted" but the outcome for an incumbent president was a fait accomplis. No viable candidate was likely to challenge him and have the whole party apparatus against them.
Wrong. Trump fucks them both. They had the choice between guaranteed, wanton, wholesale destruction and the status quo, and choose to burn it all down.
How would you describe displacing the entire population to build a Trump resort? How do you describe telling Bibi to "do whatever you want"? Bottom line, as terrible as the democrats were (fucking Biden), Trump is so much worse. And we get the added bonus of a second Great Depression.
Yeah apparently a large number of black and latino men. These are not presumed to be raging Marxists.
I'd like to see much more discussion of these men who switched to Trump. Lots more analysis of their thoughts and statements and actions.
If you aren't willing to hold Democrats accountable for when they aid and abet a fucking genocide, you don't get to pretend your any less of a fascist than maga
While I don’t agree with those that stayed home this election, Biden very much participated in a genocide. The only thing I feel they were wrong about is that Trump wouldn’t be any worse and decided to protest vote.
Not only one guy, but a guy whose whole resume is "woke elites (not me, even though I work for a think tank) are coming for the working class, and actually the Christian Right is pretty cool."
That’s still one guy. Do you really think this a widespread view among the Left? because every left winger I know and have personally encountered despises the Christian Right and everything it represents. It’s Centrist Democrats who have been palling around with Christian Fascists
I think you've misunderstood me. We are in agreement here: my point is that this is one single guy who obviously is a right winger that for whatever reason contributes to the Jacobin.
I guess this kind of broad public bitching is easier than confronting your own conscience about how the party you carried water for for so long actively is going out of its way to enable fascists
But nobody takes him seriously outside of a handful of internet nerds, he's a blatant grifter whose own dad has repeatedly called out his bullshit. Meanwhile the actual elected Democrats Judd has been carrying water for for 15 years are rolling over for Trump and Musk, and he says nothing about that
I believe we are doing just that‼️ & all the other dems, lawyers & judges are hard at work fighting all of trump’s bs crap‼️ post like crazy on fb too. Accept fiend requests from like minded resisters & FLOOD social media & go to area protests if you’re able
Oh yeah, those guys suck. But they were telling me they feel really bad about it. They were saying, "We feel so stupid, and for the record this was all our fault, we'll go away now." So now we don't have to talk about it again.
Today must be a slow day Judd, no Zionists or Nazis to write about that you got bored and decided, "today is a good day to rehash culture war rather than focus on class war, cause I'm such a good journalist. Nazis took a break today."
Your remind me of Mark Cuban but without the billions.
There are working class people of every demographic that just want to pay rent and earn a decent living. We're so fucked if we can't use the phrase "working class" to just mean what it means.
Young Turks are faux-liberals / fauxgressives ... they accept millions every 4 years to go from slightly progressive to almost right-leaning ... and they are doing it again for at least the 3rd time ... just.like.clockwork.
This
#SEXOFFENDER,
#CONVICT,
and ALL the rest of These Terrible Things Happening-
ARE THEIR FAULT!
They're All Learning The Hard Way!
While Making *Everyone Else's* Life Miserable!
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NO!!! It may be why we lost the election because the far left agenda is just that. Quit with the Initials and look at what the average working class and even the middle class need.
Your agenda is far left too. Anything to the left of Hitler is now far left insanity, according to the men in power. Anyway, the working class are now raging at the republicans, their own voters mind you, demanding an end to what Trump and Elon are doing.
other than some CBC members, the democratic party is being pretty quiet about all the "DEI actually means black ppl" rhetoric coming from the republican party lately - do you have anything to say about this rather creepy silence or is your whole gig just making up stuff about "the left"?
Are these the same "people on the left" who told liberals "you're overreacting" back in 2016 when the liberals were panicking about Roe's continued existence under Trump?
Can we stop using "left" for people who were never left? There's got to be a better word for whatever is relative-left of a white Nazi nationalist Right that currently runs the country. We don't even get to the left until you reach the Ilhan Omars and Cori Bushes. Even AOC scooted to the center!
See, this is why I'm saying this. No, there aren't "plenty of racists on the left." Then they are, in fact, not left! There are, however, plenty of racists "liberal" and centrists that call themselves left.
even if we take the least charitable interpretation of "anti-woke" possible, i don't see being a racist and being a socialist as mutually contradictory
Of course those two things aren't contradictory; they're on two different scales - something can be short and wide, or long and narrow, for example. But "on the left" encompasses a broad range of scales and any rightwing position moves a person rightward on that particular scale.
no motherfucker. what's different mow actually, is you wormy enabling simps have squeezed the last drop of juice from this routine. you and the other liberals have enabled the gop by boosting cops and normalizing and cheerleading the vichy democrats. i will see you in hell before you scold me again.
Not at all. Yes, the right has used it as a ridiculous cudgel. But also, there was absolutely a strong illiberal streak in the woke movement. They are just two extremes.
I would like to find and metaphorically strangle the idiot Australian influencer who dominated Dem Twitter spaces insisting that Harris needed to pivot center . I told that MF he was wrong and it wasn’t his business. Op. He was an op . Dem X kissed his ass.
There is a dude on Tiktok. Great political content. Fight the system and how to do it kind of stuff. He convinced many that Harris was pure evil like trump and their only hope was Jill Stein. Even after being provided evidence she was helping Trump and Putin, he still didn't care. Fuck those people
Not just an unrelated link but one that contradicts the idea that the left is to blame. The centrist HRC campaign tried to trash the left and elevate the right to favor voters toward the center.
You're the guy who drove our country into this ditch - who opened the door to and helped cause the re-election of DT - so you could language police and promote awful policies that have hurt those they purported to help.
How many articles have there been since November that quote moderate Democratic operatives - anonymous or not - blaming their loss on super-woke low level staffers and non-profits? It's an article of faith now that Kamala lost because she was too "woke" for a couple of months in 2020!
Mainstream liberal democrats: utterly incapable of stop the destruction of fascism
You: I know what will solve the problem! Let's blame the progressives, that's never failed us before! My cock deserves to be fellatioed for a brave and completely original idea
1/2 So what DO you call someone who isn’t a *radical* then? I refer to myself as a Centrist, because that’s what I am. I don’t think a radical anything is a good thing. I’m pro-choice. Pro-fact. Pro-science. Pro-live your life. You’re a Christian? Fine. You’re a Satanist? Fine.
2/2 PERSONALLY, I’m more conservative than not. I’m a christian. I wouldn’t have an abortion. I’m heterosexual. That said, I also support freedom of religion, freedom of choice. Freedom of sexuality. Freedom to marry who you love. I don’t believe in pushing my personal belief system on others.
So what do you guys call that? Am I not GOOD enough to support the cause? Even though I’ve raised 5 equally loving, accepting, tolerating citizens? Even though I fight against injustices committed against others who aren’t like me?
Because everyone deserves the right to life, liberty, & happiness? Freedom of religious, artistic, & sexual expression? Are you actually trying to marginalize those within a group against marginalization??? Fuck the word “woke”. It’s a bastardized version of simply doing right by humans!
Do we need yet ANOTHER label for each other?? I thought that’s what we were trying to get away from??? There are oppressors & there are the rest of us. Period. WTF, man. I don’t need this today.
The real answer to this is "Moderate Centrists" and people that spend their time trying to keep the Democratic Party from any kind of Progressive politics. Ironically many of the same folks that seem to be in these comments.
I've personally gotten more slurs from you people than I have from MAGA in the last year. Were the protesters that harassed the congregation at Mother Emanuel also propaganda?
No. That is a conversation for much later. At this moment the entire system is fractured. It is crumbling. It's time to regain a nation. The remainder is tying up time and energy.
Nobody on the left aligned with any "anti woke" . Although conservatism did a great rebrand on liberty, freedom, and rights with the help of media and their liberal friends.
Keep chugging that privilege. Your rich pimps have plenty more where that came from
I am also waiting for the watermelon 🍉 people to admit they were swindled when they kept saying trump would never be worse and then he announces a club med in Gaza. But these people, anti woke, watermelon, will ever admit they were wrong. They are that stupid.
You think that anti-genocide activists, many of whom exchanged notes about how to resist protests with folks from BLM during the unrest following Michael Brown's murder, are anti-woke?
Again, as I said to someone just upthread, you have a strange definition. Pro-Gaza & pro-BLM folks work together.
Ok, fuck it, I’ll explain it because I am watching Canada’s game. The point is 2 “woke” groups digging in on something totally wrong, which the rest of the broader liberal coalition told them would cost us the election. That happened, and sadly, we are being proven that it is as bad as we told them
You don't seem to understand that anti-genocide voters in the Democratic camp were telling the Democratic Party that if they didn't change course, they were in danger of losing the election. They could continue funding the destruction of Gaza or they could win the election, but they couldn't do both
The entire USA constitution is a con job.
I don't think settlers understand what "woke" means.
You have to be a bot brain to not understand the importance of awakening and being alert to reality.
If "Anti-Woke" on the left just means having any semblance of Class politics. Like some of your comments are suggesting. Then no. Lots of Democrats that think having any kind of Class input means your racist are wrong and morons. The kind of rhetoric that Dems used against "Bernie Bros", still bad.
isn’t it time that those on the left who aligned with the woke movement, and who did exactly what the plutocracy and oligarchy wanted, admit they were conned ?
Other than TERFs, some of whom were real people, I think most "I hate woke" "people on the left" were creatures of internet fantasy... Russians in dilapidated buildings, paid in Vodka and pretending to be "Beth from the Midwest".
Why all of the people who argued that the trading in left-winged pontification for fascist and fascist sympathetic movements was an agreeable trade of course and who argued that such pontification was an existential and cultural threat.
I think you're right but he seems pretty representative of the consumers of elite media with an audience who doesn't, always, blindly subscribe to right-winged jingoism and gets written off as 'left' as a result.
I agree. I think OP meant something like “they didn’t vote for Harris because they’re anti-woke class reductionists” or some bullshit. Basically getting mad at a made up person.
They weren't "conned" because they weren't voting for trump who WAS "the anti-abortion candidate". It was a 2 horse race & they were on the right horse. Trump will cause worldwide chaos, death, the "re-development" of Gaza BUT it won't bring about "The Revolution". Marx must be spinning in his grave
"The Democrats can never fail, only be failed. They always run perfect campaigns and it's the voters' fault for not recognizing how perfect they are. The voters owe it to Democrats to reward them for their perfect campaigns, which they will never change no matter how many times they lose."
They knew what Trump was going to do and they let it happen. You don't have to agree with everything someone is doing. It sucks that it is a choice between two people, but that's how it is until we can change it. A nonvote protest works if both sides are similar which was not the case.
"There was no alignment" Kamala literally made "Liz Cheney is voting for me" a centerpiece of her campaign. Are you liberals that desperate to rewrite history that you pretend we all can't remember what happened four months ago?
I always dismissed them in the same category as “independent libertarians.” It’s like a dude trying to assure you that no, this isn’t a metal band, this is Scandinavian Polka Metal which is a totally distinct (but still significantly overlaps) with metal.
Good God they make me sick. They don't admit it. They think Trump's victory proves they were right. They think we drove sensible Americans to fascism with our irrational concern for the well-being of our Muslim and transgendered brothers and sisters.
Who on the left aligned themselves with the "anti-woke" movement? If you're referring to the anti genocide group, they spanned the big tent. We need to stop blaming each other and get to the business of saving ourselves. The divisiveness is a putin/trump/elon game & we don't play for them!
Is that a thing people on the left did? I’m more familiar with those that never criticized Hamas after 10/7, falsely accused Biden of genocide, constantly moved the goalposts on Harris, and the helped Trump get elected by either not voting, voting third party, or worse. Talk about getting conned.
Holy shit, lol.
Also, most people in Hamas were orphaned, by Israel, so you can bet your bottom dollar I'm not going to criticise them for wanting revenge, against those monsters.
What Israel is doing is absolutely genocide. If you saw Arabs and Muslims as human, you'd have no trouble seeing it.
I'm familiar with the ones who've criticized the IDF's decades of brutalizing Palestinians, criticized Biden for funding and supplying a genocide, warned that Harris would lose if she ran a right-wing campaign, and were correct but got blamed anyway.
People online reflected a lot of public sentiment. Sentiment the Democrats chose to ignore instead trying to win around Republican voters they had zero chance of getting. Anything but improve conditions for working class people.
No they didn’t. Trump supporters plus non voters plus third party voters did that. Thats how election math works. You’ve got to get out of your bubble and meet more people who don’t agree with you on everything.
Yes they did. When they willingly refused to do basic things for working class voters knowing they would lose, they chose Trump. Yes, that's how elections work. You have to win people around with your policy. People increasingly agree with them on less and less. That's on them.
The left isn't required to have a taken on legal resistance that the right wing want them to have. Biden IS complicit in genocide and should be had up for war crimes. There were no goal posts for Harris, the left never supported her. The people who helped Trump win were the Dem establishment.
If the Democrats had listened to basic asks over the past four years they wouldn't be in the position they are today. They weren't even willing to honor their compaign promises, which seem like very low hanging fruit asks to honor, no?
What planet have you been living on? The Dems, when they had enough votes to get things done, delivered on a shit ton of promises. What you seem to want is one-party authoritarianism that buys you a pony for your birthday, but that’s not the system we have.
Riiight? So the federal minimum wage is $15 today is it? They didn't keep a single one of their campaign promises. Oh look at you with your straw man arguments. No one mentioned ponies, stop being a clown. People just wanted to be able to get by ffs.
Again, you seem to want an authoritarianism that only does good things. That exists nowhere. The president can’t raise the minimum wage by fiat, & those trying to pass a $15 min wage didn’t have the votes to overcome the opposition. The solution is electing more Democrats that support that policy.
Well keep not voting and voting 3rd party . I am sure it's going to be fine. MFer do you know we may not even have elections again? You're out here saying democrats better do this or that. Maybe of you ignoramuses voted for them we wouldn't be where we are.
Democrats in Congress currently have a 21% approval rating. So yea they better fucking do something.
Its insane some of y'all think they can just do nothing different and you can bitch about non voters as a fucking strategy. Get over yourselves and wake the fuck up
Meanwhile, Donald Trump enjoy a 50% approval rating.
Democrats suck, but Americans are just dumb and/or evil. And that include those bickering against the democrats as well as those bickering against the bickerers. Trump was on the ballot, he should have lost even against a rusted rake or a possum.
What if I voted for Democrats and have the same exact concerns? They didn't do shit to stop fascism in the Biden years and they're not doing anything to stop it now. How many times am I supposed to vote for them and wait for results that are clearly not going to materialize?
Voting happens every two years. Keep doing it. Don’t let the non-existent perfect be the enemy of the good. Otherwise you’ll have enjoy indefinite Republican rule as they strip away social security & other safety net programs to fund tax cuts for the super rich, privatize public lands, etc.
Votes are earned, D's keep saying for me to vote for them, but my wages are stuck, groceries up...Dems moving right & are now #ReaganRepublicans. If we are going authoriatarian, better to get their fast w Repubs than slow w Dems. Make it hurt fast so #DNCLemmings wake up & vote better in primary.
You know they’re not in charge of anything right? Seems weird to me that you would blame them for not doing something rather than, you know, the people on charge
That's right, every lib subscribed to the NYT as they promoted transphobia, the Gaza genocide, the beating of woke college kids and slamming "cancel culture" owes an apology to the world
Quit being a dipshit and gleefully weaponizing the suffering of Palestinians because your piece of shit genocidal party didn't win. Be a better person instead of the skidmark on the genome you're being
Let's offer these folks an off-ramp. We have a lot to learn from Rich Logis (who got curious & left maga). Try a few of the YouTube interviews & see how we might facilitate the off-ramp for folks we know as they start to get curious. ⬇️
@leavingmaga.bsky.social
Most of the ones I know will have to pass thru the "but that would mean that awful atheist would win", the "but that weird guy in the gym who wears nail polish would win" & the "I guess I should either take off the cross necklace or actually start following Jesus" phases first.
Typical lib discourse, refusal to look inward at your own faults, projecting all your failures on the left. Liberalism is fascism, until you understand that, you're just as useless as any other lib.
I fight with my left-of-center family re this. Some got suckered into anti-woke rhetoric, fueled by some loud, very young kids on college campuses getting outsized publicity.
I tell em it's all a ginned up PR stunt to co-opt you; the more dangerous, immediate threat is about to blow yr brains out.
We could do without the scolding for having any kind of reservation about an official democrat orthodoxy. The left is not infallible and their weakness is the dismissive attitude towards anyone saying, “I’m with you 90% but I have thoughts…”
It's hard to tell if people like you are simply generally divisive individuals or Russian trolls whose job is to generate online division on the left. At the end of the day, the results are the same. They should be transferring you some $$$ to thank you.
I didn’t align with the anti-woke but I am and many on the left are intelligent, thinking people who should be able to engage in discussions anout issues and not just have beliefs shoved down our throats and told to “get in line.”
Do you still not get how alienating and circular firing squad you are with people on your side?!?! If there’s any con job going on, it’s from people like you.
I don’t think there were too many honestly. I think many many of us see a lot of obnoxious bots who are causing division between the center-left but more center and the left. Fascists win when those 2 groups are too busy fighting and blaming each other to create any unified opposition to fascism.
We all need to be united together in beating down “trumpism” “magaism” & fascism—forget all the other sideline issues crap—one focus here is clear—beat trump & trumpism. And post like crazy on Facebook‼️ We all have this one mission to accomplish‼️ Beat trump‼️‼️‼️
Judd, they'd still knife you in a quiet corner were no one watching and then leave you to bleed out if you were a progressive. Conned? Yes. Marks and fools? Yes. Dangerous and untrustworthy. Yes.
Like, this wasn't just the left. It was a minority of the left, and a significantly higher fraction of centrists, moderates, mainstream media, and prominent Democrats.
No dude. "Woke" as it is currently constituted is a con if you are using a materialist analysis
It just divided the working class n gave trump a lane
The left wants to uplift everyone, not just people in marginalized communities who already have a higher educating into corporate jobs but that
It was USED by reactionary fuckwits on the right to divide working class people and to distract them from (in the case of the US) grotesque health & wealth divides.
"Woke" itself did not do that. But suggesting that it did, how are you not simply repeating/rehashing MAGA/right wing talking points?
And just to be like abundantly clear. I don't think that dei or woke or w.e was the problem I think that it was a fake solution to a problem and that the right cynically used it to distract from the same problem Democrats used it to distract from
I actually live in the UK. Personally I find it astounding that the Dems have so spectacularly failed to address numerous serious, structural issues which ANY Social Democratic, Liberal, left of centre (etc) party in Europe would've made central. It's perplexing.
(The reaction, at least online, to the CEO shooting suggests widespread anger about these issues across the political spectrum in the US, so aside from the morality/humanity, they're also things the Dems could/should also have been able to exploit politically.)
Sorry I just want to be clear because it. It's a very sensitive issue for a lot of people and very often. I find people misread or mischaracterize what I'm saying. As some kind of like attack, that's not what i'm saying or trying to do
I couldn't agree with you more. I have felt that I've been screaming these exact sentiments into the void. Thank you for organizing your thoughts so eloquently for others to hopefully understand.
Doesn't mean not fighting bigotry
It doesn't mean not standing up for people
It means saddressing the systems of oppression w.o doing that most of the members of these communities are left behind & forgotten about, while liberals get the pat themselves on their back like they did something radical
IMO given the history of racially and ethnically targeted oppression explicity meant to keep minorities lower class, their communities should receive extra support beyond dismantling such systems.
Changing the attitudes of the public inculcated by those systems is a tough nut to crack.
We're not talking about racial inclusivity other than in corporate jobs for people who already have achieved higher education and are doing better than most of the community and are then used as like tokens to act like radical change has happened
Both sides of the political spectrum have a vested interest in making the bottom war each other
Rich professional liberals who make too much and don't pay enough taxes want you to think a toothless meth addict in a red depression zone is oppressive and privileged so you don't ask him to pay taxes
And you are right, it was a con made up mostly of very privileged people who are aspirational wealthy who themselves WANT the focus on race especially the most powerless people as architects of oppression
So you can't figure out they are billionaires hand maidens part of the problem
No, the only way to unite the working class is on a class basis. And then once people have class consciousness and understand that protecting other members of their class is actually in their interest. Can all of these issues be really addressed
Marginalized people will not unite with other elements of the working class who are set on exterminating them because of their skin, their gender, or rendering them into broodmares
There's no unification that will happen without addressing social oppression
We know why radicalization happens. We know that f****** changes your brain chemistry. We know it's more prone to happen. Or in times of economic crisis
And ignoring it is not going to make it go away. Things are only going to continue getting worse
And, even in context race specific oppression and injustices like the large class gaps between afram and American whites
You think the solution is platitude of inclusivity, not actual tax funded reparations from the elites and wide sweeping class changes so the problem can meaningfully improve
Being woke... means to be smart...
clearly people refusing to admit it's good to be smart is what got us here.. so yes it maters.. ignorant uneducated people who won't admit that giving queers basic human rights is what got us here.. so it's time to stop the war on being smart already.
I beg to differ. Lots of leftists (of which I am one) were telling me to give up culture war “woke” bullshit… that’s me fighting for my rights, not “being woke”
i had a similar experience. leftists saying there were more important issues than “pronouns” and calling me selfish for supporting the candidate not saying they were going to eradicate people like me.
It seems that Marxists believe that cultural issues are capitalist decadence and that deviating from class issues is untrustworthy. They can be extremely dogmatic about these beliefs.
Which is extra frustrating given that people who are marginalized in other ways experience more economic marginalization. It's like they think class is this magical system that's somehow completely unaffected by other systems, and they use that easily disprovable belief to justify being jerks
there is a huge gulf between "class is important, as are race, gender, etc," and "class is paramount," and then between those and "active opposition to anything but a 'pure' class analysis is essential and also we love racism and transphobia," the latter being limited to a few loudmouth grifters
There are few people on the left who aligned themselves with the "anti-woke" preachers.
Some, but you are probably mostly thinking about the Centre-Right and the 'moderate' Right that masquerades as 'the Left' in the minds of many US journalists and pundits.
This helps absolutely nothing and shows how media supposedly aligned with the left want to see everyone on the left fight with each other. But hey, this guy wants to say I told you so or some stupid shit.
Lil Juddy Beans here is just making up an impossible type of person out of whole cloth to get mad at and it would be v relatable if he would just admit it
"I made it the fuck up" would be the coolest shit to say. just overwhelmingly Ferris Bueller. Their wheezing allergy to anything like it is why libs will always be dangling by their tightie whities
Um Judd, can I get an AMEN?! We here up in the #KHive have been bringing up these Bernie-to-Alt Right dummies for 4+ years. Thankfully at least one recently sent this apology video for being wrong about Kamala:
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Try harder.
They merely conveniently use the Kremlin to accomplish their goals and want to partner with ccp long run
That religion-induced cognitive dissonance runs deep.
I can't understand any anti to social justice and fighting racism and fascism.
They've been bought by Polymarket (aka Thiel) after cratering view counts.
Demanding apologies from a demographic that is functionally nonexistent is pushing the narrative that they matter.
I guess words have no meaning from now on.
97.2% of them in non-swing states where their decision to stay home had zero impact on the outcome.
Read up on how the electoral college works. Do better.
Any Democratic nominee would've had a better chance had Biden never run for reelection in the first place.
Both wanted to level Gaza. One wants to build an empire in the ruins, the other was content to do it for free. The leveling part was the same.
I'd like to see much more discussion of these men who switched to Trump. Lots more analysis of their thoughts and statements and actions.
https://jacobin.com/2024/07/wokeness-left-ideology-neiman-review
Eesh.
Your remind me of Mark Cuban but without the billions.
How can you be so freaking stupid sometimes?? Do you have brain worms too…
Killers all.
If you think like this and think that "The Working Class" isn't a real thing. You have Qanon moron levels of intelligence.
Read a fucking book. Learn some history. Read about the fucking Industrial Revolution or something.
#PrejudiceVoters
#OTHERVoters
#PALESTINEPUNISHVoters
#NonVoters!
This
#SEXOFFENDER,
#CONVICT,
and ALL the rest of These Terrible Things Happening-
ARE THEIR FAULT!
They're All Learning The Hard Way!
While Making *Everyone Else's* Life Miserable!
Decent America Knows! 🇺🇸
Blame Trump for running, the RNC for accepting his candidacy, and his voters for placing ballots for him in the ballot box.
Nothing about it was farther left than center-right.
Sorry Reagan was too left-wing for your tastes.
#ThingsThatAreTheExactOppositeOfWhatHappened
#AlternativeFacts:NotJustForMagaAnymore
It’s like he’s having writers block:
so he spews a straw-man argument in a soapbox the town square…
stealing responses for a future article material.
Judd may as well post “Do these men who still beat their wife feel bad?”
then sell a subscription to his Feminist Newsletter.
He’s become a journalist like Morton Downey, Jr ran a chat show.
I had such high hopes.
It’s all fun & entertaining at first… then you realize his entire playbook is using Logical Fallacy to enrage the audience.
Hannity still does it.
Rush did it best.
Even Rogan does it daily.
Sad to see Judd fall into the same trap.
Is this your version of rage farming; when you’re desperate for literary inspiration?
https://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/
You're the guy who drove our country into this ditch - who opened the door to and helped cause the re-election of DT - so you could language police and promote awful policies that have hurt those they purported to help.
Keep it up though, you're doing great
You: I know what will solve the problem! Let's blame the progressives, that's never failed us before! My cock deserves to be fellatioed for a brave and completely original idea
"Post gets ABSOLUTELY dumpstered on"
You:😦 why aren't people throwing themselves to suck my cock for my brave and original post
It’s a rage-farm technique to spew vaguely angry posts and then build your next column with free responses, so he can earn a paycheck.
Truly heinous shit.
Do certain people not realize opposing enlightenment and anti-fascists is the wrong move for a functioning society?
Because the enabling results speak for themselves.
Keep chugging that privilege. Your rich pimps have plenty more where that came from
These are different.
Also, Harris knew she was sacrificing these votes. She thought she could win without them. She made a bad bet.
Again, as I said to someone just upthread, you have a strange definition. Pro-Gaza & pro-BLM folks work together.
Both of those groups count as "woke". Neither of them are anti-woke in the way 'woke' is used in the African-American community.
So there is no point in holding a grudge against those voters. They were sending up a signal flare, and Dems chose to ignore the warning.
I don't think settlers understand what "woke" means.
You have to be a bot brain to not understand the importance of awakening and being alert to reality.
A lot of it was justification for being self-indulgent, disrespectful and shitty.
Looking at you Bill Maher.
you lost to trump twice
I don't like Liz Cheney or Kinziger, but with the exception of the January 6th investigation, there was no alignment, you sound defiant.
Leftists who didn't vote can't understand party before country.
It's so weird, until one remembers that Leftists were willing to hold democracy hostage for student debt relief. And then Medicare For All.
Give them the boot.
Are you talking about people who think they're centrists?
I don't know you, and I'm concerned you just don't know what "left" means. Or are pretending not to.
Also, most people in Hamas were orphaned, by Israel, so you can bet your bottom dollar I'm not going to criticise them for wanting revenge, against those monsters.
What Israel is doing is absolutely genocide. If you saw Arabs and Muslims as human, you'd have no trouble seeing it.
Its insane some of y'all think they can just do nothing different and you can bitch about non voters as a fucking strategy. Get over yourselves and wake the fuck up
Democrats suck, but Americans are just dumb and/or evil. And that include those bickering against the democrats as well as those bickering against the bickerers. Trump was on the ballot, he should have lost even against a rusted rake or a possum.
(also worth sharing and spreading the news)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqRNnIMDkUY
you’re angry at yourself own stupidity and I hope it haunts you til your last day.
you ppl did this. palestine’s extinction is on your hands
I'm taking it as liberals drank the coolaid and voted fucktard can't admit they were wrong
@leavingmaga.bsky.social
Will never happen.
I tell em it's all a ginned up PR stunt to co-opt you; the more dangerous, immediate threat is about to blow yr brains out.
It's hard to tell if people like you are simply generally divisive individuals or Russian trolls whose job is to generate online division on the left. At the end of the day, the results are the same. They should be transferring you some $$$ to thank you.
It just divided the working class n gave trump a lane
The left wants to uplift everyone, not just people in marginalized communities who already have a higher educating into corporate jobs but that
"Woke" itself did not do that. But suggesting that it did, how are you not simply repeating/rehashing MAGA/right wing talking points?
Which is the economic problems people are facing
I actually live in the UK. Personally I find it astounding that the Dems have so spectacularly failed to address numerous serious, structural issues which ANY Social Democratic, Liberal, left of centre (etc) party in Europe would've made central. It's perplexing.
I get that the >
Everything from the appalling "health" insurance system, extreme wealth inequality, etc.
So I get the criticism that *focusing* on DEI etc .. if that's what they were in fact doing .. totally misses the point and is >
(The reaction, at least online, to the CEO shooting suggests widespread anger about these issues across the political spectrum in the US, so aside from the morality/humanity, they're also things the Dems could/should also have been able to exploit politically.)
I actually want to solve these problems
That doesn't mean that we should give up on making the world a better place
But we should reassess our strategy and tactics constantly even if they're working
It's a literal part of some libs identity it's nuts
but most of this, all came out of hillary clinton two thousand sixteen campaign and was used to attack bernie sanders first
I don't give a f*** if right-wingers point 2 in adequate issue. That's how right when politics works
The rest I explained dei was loved by corporate interests the purveyors of inequality and these oppressive systems
Because they got to act like they were making big changes
Like dei isn't enough. That could be a bandaid in the meantime while addressing structural issues
Otherwise it just leaves a huge target on the entire community's back to uplift a few members already doing better than the rest of the community
That's how you end up with someone like trump in office
It doesn't mean not standing up for people
It means saddressing the systems of oppression w.o doing that most of the members of these communities are left behind & forgotten about, while liberals get the pat themselves on their back like they did something radical
Changing the attitudes of the public inculcated by those systems is a tough nut to crack.
Not as a distraction to not do anything more
We're not talking about racial inclusivity other than in corporate jobs for people who already have achieved higher education and are doing better than most of the community and are then used as like tokens to act like radical change has happened
I'm not talking about racial inclusivity broadly, but the way stupid fucking liberals are handling these issues
And you can find communists in all of these groups
And insist you are a fascist
It's about addressing structural problems & oppressive systems that use racism
Like underfunded schools to uplift everybody
Along with other ways to temporarily deal with the issue in the short term
Rich professional liberals who make too much and don't pay enough taxes want you to think a toothless meth addict in a red depression zone is oppressive and privileged so you don't ask him to pay taxes
So you can't figure out they are billionaires hand maidens part of the problem
And not live in a gated community in luxury
Of course they naturally help the ultra wealth keep the con going
The real problem is barefoot slobs who are regressive and have nothing hate them
They benefit just as much as billionaires from the culture war
The magnitude is smaller, but they have Same goals to keep stealing and not make real equality opportunity
I've seen these takes
That being white in of itself is a huge privilege regardless of class
Rather than, racism in the past made HUGE familial class gaps and that's why there are still gaps today...
The way to mend those divides is to end identity-based oppression.
There will be no united working class without addressing racism, queerphobic, misogyny, ableism, etc
The liberal way failed
It was always designed to
Marginalized people will not unite with other elements of the working class who are set on exterminating them because of their skin, their gender, or rendering them into broodmares
There's no unification that will happen without addressing social oppression
Because they're not so naive and idealistic to think that this problem is just going to solve itself
I'm latino esl first generation american. One of the first targeted communities by trump and I disagree with you
And ignoring it is not going to make it go away. Things are only going to continue getting worse
Besides the fact the idea that everybody
What's your point?
I'm a black, queer, femme member of an immigrant family. Do you want a cookie or something?
The reality is that sidelining or ignoring social oppression isn't just a bad strategy, it's actively unhelpful.
That shit was imported by the capitalist elite from the South.
And you think the solution is keep focus on it, other than "don't be a bigot, let's unite"
Y'all enjoy your chat 😂
You think the solution is platitude of inclusivity, not actual tax funded reparations from the elites and wide sweeping class changes so the problem can meaningfully improve
Nora...do you remember those tests in school where you had to read a passage, then summarize it?
I know for goddamn sure you failed every single one of those. 🤣
Holy shit, reading that was like watching you hallucinate a whole human and start *boxin*
I cannot 😂
clearly people refusing to admit it's good to be smart is what got us here.. so yes it maters.. ignorant uneducated people who won't admit that giving queers basic human rights is what got us here.. so it's time to stop the war on being smart already.
how do you read my post and think I'm talking about the collaborators? yeah bud I'm really here to defend dasha bro lmao
stop larping
Traitors in my mind.
Some, but you are probably mostly thinking about the Centre-Right and the 'moderate' Right that masquerades as 'the Left' in the minds of many US journalists and pundits.
Now they have the "fire all the generals" guy