People who voted for Jill Stein, or were so far-left they couldn't bring themselves to even vote at all, have been rounded up by ICE agents and sent to Mar-a-Lago for a thank you brunch.
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These fights will continue forever until the dems finally understand that standing up unapologetically for the right thing is inherently appealing and run on a true progressive platform
They won't because they don't want to. They have a very specific set of rules to follow for their own scam that they run on the US, just like Trump is doing now. They hate him because he came in an ruined their con with his own much more effective one. Now they can't run theirs and they get mad.
Also, uh, Harris had the most progressive platform you jokers will ever see in your lives.
Her rejection by U.S. voters has killed whatever big dreams you all had for green energy and universal healthcare and no more wars and whatever else for a hundred years.
Dude there is no "progressive sleeping giant" in this country that just needs the right sequence of Leftist magic words to awaken it.
Guys like Sanders get blown out of the water because their big ideas are broadly unpopular, and your inability to wrap your heads around this is a huge skill issue.
I wonder what the reaction will be, of people who keep saying that exact same thing over and over, blaming the voters and non-voters...
when it is finally discovered that kamala won by a lanslide and #Trumpuskutin stole the elction, like every informed person in the world already knows.
We are free to vote who we want. Not everyone votes for a PARTY That's called a cult
I voted for your candidate what did he do? Oh that's right..not a fucking thing.
weirdo nonsense
if they mattered that much why tf do est dems and all your lib buddies spend all your energy shitting on them before/during/after every cycle rather than enticing them with actual meaningful policy?
ignore carvilleposters
Kamala was so focused on getting the pretend votes from the right by touring w/ Liz Cheney & not listening to her base at all. The dems didn't run on progressive ideas, they have been going further and further right following the republicans. They should be trying to win over the left instead but no
She literally was promising a $15 minimum wage, legalizing weed, $10/day childcare, $20k in housing assistance, etc. The only areas she ran right was the border, which literally a majority of Americans support.
Yes, she ran on that but in the same breath she said, "nothing is going to change." She should have mentioned that immigration was actually down in the past 4 years. I do know that they can say these things but not implement them. They had a majority? Why just use it for campaigning?
These people get their talking points off of tik tok - you can tell bc they are all EXACTLY the same, and they all are bullshit. Save your breath - the sum total of their political participation is regurgitating nonsense they've picked up from other know-nothings.
But once again…does it make sense to vote for the person that had a better chance to defeat trump? Or some rando that had no chance? The objective was to not let trump in office. Y’all knew those 3rd parties wouldn’t have won. This is chess not checkers. We could’ve kept pushing for leftist ideals
So, I unfortunately couldn't vote b/c I had a malignant tumor in my appendix. I'm so sorry I was in the middle of dying and spending 30k with medical insurance to pay for it. If you tally up the 3rd party vote it wouldnt have made a difference. Maybe consider voter suppression or electoral college
But go off, literally do anything but pretend for a second the dems ran a shit race, "nothing is going to change". Dems haven't raised taxes for the rich even when they had the house & senate. But, ok blame 3rd party voters rather than how the dems run shit campaigns. Its a tale as old as time.
Is Trump better? Did the 3rd party win?
Yeah, the dems suck: but unless we all vote 3rd party, they have to be better than Trump, right? Or are Trump’s policies the price we must all pay so a dirty democrat isn’t in office? Is that what you’re saying?
Logical fallacy. They never said Trump was better, rather that Kamala ran as a moderate Republican and who knew Democrats don't want to vote for that. "Yes the Dems suck" exactly this, voting for the lesser for two evils (Dems) have gotten us to this point. When Biden did nothing to stop Felon Trump
They lack the votes to pass healthcare reform in the senate bc of the filibuster, and, when they tried to eliminate the filibuster, Manchin and Sinema (who, mind you, are no longer Democrats) voted no. You can’t just yell at them for not doing anything when they LITERALLY CAN’T.
Some of them were leftest, tho. Y’all are so dense that u must be trolls. Will Trump allow our leftist ideologies to manifest now? Huh? Or would it have been better to keep fighting for them while the whole country wasn’t fighting for their basic rights? Some of us can’t even afford our insulin now
Hey, idk where my other post went. But I posted that I wasn’t talking about ppl that didn’t vote. Because many, such as yourself, had difficulties the rest of us didn’t have. And I wished you a speedy recovery out of genuine concern and so you know we’re still comrades. Idk why that post is missing
And I now that I’ve been debating you for a while, I see you’re not going to change your mind and vote for trump’s biggest opponent because you don’t see the same consequences the rest of us do. BUT that means we have to work HARDER to get a 3rd party into the mainstream. We gotta move! Let’s go.
I’m not talking to you. Please stay blessed. And take care of your self. I’m mostly making an argument against 3rd party voting during pivotal elections. I work for many ppl with disabilities and understand not everyone can vote. Sorry, I wasn’t clear. I hope you’ll be okay.
So you couldn't be bothered to send in a mail in vote for the woman who wanted to expand medicare & the ACA. And instead you were totally fine with letting the guy who wants to gut both winning?
So Ableist of you to think that someone literally dying and in ICU can just go do a little mail in vote I guess because they were just being lazy? I guess I should have just asked them to let me out of ICU, and if I die, I die? What is wrong with you?
No Alice. I was in the middle of dying. I'm soooo sorry that I couldn't and my State doesnt make it easy. I had a malignant tumor in my appendix so I was dealing with that in the ER/Hospital. But fuck me right? I was actually going to vote for her but there you go with your lil assumptions again
Harris was not running on "leftist ideals". had she, she would have stood a much better chance. her campaign either through her own choices or from the Clinton consultants who havent won an election ever, made serious errors while running. you blame voters for that instead of the campaign itself
Another problem was that the Democrats tried too hard to coast on support from Beyoncé and Taylor Swift when they should have been talking to small town America.
Yes, and they never talk about the working class. They never make huge points about the lies republicans sell, like crime. Crime had been going down and generally migrants aren't the one committing those crimes. They ignore large portions of the country for sure.
Girl, no. She ran a shit campaign. People should learn from history and failures so that it doesn't happen again. We should demand more from our leaders, how else do we make change?But go on with your assumptions about what I look like. 💀
They tried running Grandpa Joe who had NO business in charge in the first place then ran on Project 25 and some cliche programs they'd install if elected. Democrats toss us hamburger and call it steak.
1. I really don't get all the whining that she invited Liz Cheney to one campaign stop. It's not like she adopted any of her policies & she also campaigned with AOC.
2. You do realize America isn't a far left country, right?
People on left vote for dems and majority of voters who vote dem have progressive policies but she focused on trying to win over republican voters BY INVITING A REPUBLICAN LIZ CHENEY. They aren't going to vote for her anyway. She ran a crap campaign. They want status quo instead of good policies.
Okay, so that was a good campaign move for a dem? No, it wasn't. Currently, I am aware that we are living in fascism so did I ever once say we were in a far left country? No, if we were I'd have free healthcare and I could retire without worrying about social security going away.
You're glad someone is finally saying it? It is all I hear from liberals. Pointing fingers instead of realizing that the system is to blame. A two party system where both parties get paid by the same super PACS and corporations.
I was being disarming by pretending to agree with the OP. Before showing how much of a farce blaming Leftists is, this is for ppl who want nothing more than to cover their ears and blow raspberries
If I have to hear one more Schumer quote about how his Republican friends are honest with him at the gym…
When gov workers, who were being purged, told him to shut the gov down and he refused to a spine? They are not in on the plot and they don’t even know it
Can you imagine coming out your neck like @staceyabrams.com didn’t try to warn yall?
The Reps are purging early and mail in votes while trying to pass ID laws intended to prevent progressive and lib votes from being counted. And they are very good at it
over three million throttled thanks to republican vote suppression but sure let's ignore that (and by doing so, enable more of it) and complain about ppl who hate the democrats and will never vote for the party.
i voted for harris but find you ppl insufferably stupid and boring.
And Dems, yet again, blame progressives instead of analyzing the real reasons they lost this election. This attitude is why people like Schumer remain party leaders. When Dems stop trying to win centrist and republican votes, listen to their constituents, and follow through on policies, u can chirp
While Republicans are vile trash, they fight. They stick together.
Democrats are like chickens with their heads cut off.
They have no guts, no courage, no fight.
They are only concerned with their wealth and posh lifestyles.
I'm so far left I voted for Harris because I didn't want an autocrat in power and yet here we are. Blaming the left for centrists' complete failure as a party to even have a platform is not our fault. Go fuck yourself you complete washout of an actor.
So anyway, according to *statistics* Harris lost because Biden voters didn't vote at all. And according to polls, they didn't vote because they "didn't know what she stood for."
So tell me: if Harris had gotten every vote that went to De la Cruz, would she have won?
It's like a festival of lack of reading comprehension up in here.
Harris lost, not because there are many people who agree with you, but because a lot of people refused to vote for or listen to a Black woman. Where in that statement do I claim that you refused to vote for a Black woman?
Perhaps English isn't your first language. If it were, you'd see that I said there weren't enough American voters who care about the issue to move the needle in the election. This is especially true in the swing states.
Leftists were waiting for a reason to not vote for Harris. The restart of hostilities was not a coincidence, seeing how involved Putin is with Hamas. It undermined Biden and also took attention away from Ukraine. Also weird how news sites aren't talking about it as much anymore.
You can't win if you don't get the most votes and the most votes went to the most unqualified president history. You're not going to overthrow the government, so you must like losing. So, you live in your dream world and the rest of us will live in reality. Enjoy your stash.
I agree the damn should stop taking aipacs money but when one Dem in New York did that, they primaried him and dumped a ton of money on a woman who would.
You have a severely distorted view of 1) the powers of a U.S. President, 2) public opinion surrounding the Israeli-Hamas war, and 3) the definition of the word “genocide.”
god if that was the joe jackson that became a famous musician we’d have “is isreal really committing genocide” instead of “is she really going out with him”
It’s great how they just try to ignore how the US has handled Israel for literally every decade of its modern existence as a nation state to bend over backwards and absolve the Biden administration
idk Trump is out here dismantling agencies, throwing the global economy into the toilet, and kidnapping people in broad daylight, but sure yeah totally man
The president who illegally end-ran around Congress to gift 90 billion in controlled weapons and cash to an industrialised child rape and -murder machine?
Yeah, if anything, they're downplaying the power of a US President, so go fuck yourself, Grand Wizard
If every single person who voted for Stein voted for Holocaust Harris she still would have lost by millions of votes
Why do you lot blame voters who care and try and not the politicians who do things like chasing after the votes of bigots who will *NEVER* vote for them at the cost of winning ‽
Also if they had literally any standards at all and demanded the bare minimum from their politicians in exchange for their votes then Harris never would have stuck with a losing platform
She might have actually come out against genocide & for protecting immigrants & trans people and earned my vote
you’re concocting the idea of people who objected too strongly to GENOCIDE, of all things, being rounded up and trafficked or killed themselves, and it brings you joy. what the actual fuck is wrong with you, frank? sounds like you just want genocide
They’re sick deranged people who’ve become convinced politicks is a sports game where one team can “win.” That thinking fucks us all. Politicks is checks and balances, balance, and everyone should feel a little shorted…but not if it’s Team Blue vs Team Red : winner-takes-all vs shared governance.
yeah, it’s a pretty depressing development. imagine getting so lost in the team sports sauce that you find yourself cheering on the rise of a modern day gestapo. he must’ve never heard of martin niemöller
I guess i didnt? Like i dont know what to tell you if you're not just gonna believe me on that cause im not taking active glee in people being sent to concentration camps
Seriously though, I'd love to have ranked-choice voting or similar here so that we can actually have a proper range of candidates. Good luck getting the average American past any kind of stark dualism, though.
So you're mad at people who had no effect on the outcome of the election. Why is that? Why aren't you venting your anger on the voters who came out in droves to put Trump in office, i.e., white people?
People who voted for Kamala, who put more effort into winning over disgruntled Repugs than anyone left of centre, should really be demanding their party fight as hard against Trump as they do their progressive members.
Until then, 🤫
I voted for Harris, but blaming this on 3rd party voters is such bullshit. Stein didn't get enough votes to swing a state. If you want to blame anyone, start with the 90 million eligible voters who stayed home.
Hey so it doesn't really matter what political party you support, saying shit like this means you absolutely do support what Trump is doing, you just want to be able to decide who it's done to.
No one has been held accountable for that campaign, no one has been held accountable for the lack of primary, no one has been held accountable for puppeteering an old man with dementia to be shadow president for nearly three years.
I voted for a candidate that didn't support genocide and a domestic police surveillance state.
Seems like a pretty reasonable ask.
Maybe don't be evil and you'll get my vote.
one thing I find amazing about the amazing level of stupidity of americans is how you always blame the failure of your political system, the lack of political parties representing people or truly fighting the fascists, on those few who actually try to change the pathetic 18th century 2 party system.
It never occurs to Democrats that they badly need the votes of the people they love to blame and wish harm upon. They are never winning Republicans. They cannot activate independents. They won't win a single election without the left they can't stop alienating.
and yet stein presumed hilary guilty. This is the most incarcerated country in the world, theres nothig liberal about presuming people guilty who the fbi already failed to frame
Dunno man, sure seems like the Dems are all for what he's doing. Other than a rousing day long speech by an ineffective representative it sure seems like they're busy sucking his dick and making bank insider trading.
if every vote that went to Jill Stein had gone to Kamala Harris, Harris still would have lost.
joking about people being rounded up by ICE & deported is bad, even when the people being targeted are "acceptable targets" in your eyes. all bc they draw the line at genocide. you're a sick individual.
Yeah this kind of joking is really quite disturbing ngl. Shows they still haven’t quite internalised just how horrific what they are treating so lightly as to joke about is. Like holy shit how hard is it to get a grip and treat that stuff seriously? Would they make train jokes? Or mass grave jokes?
I would have voted for Kamala Harris but the Democratic party pushed the Green party out of existence in my state so my voter registration was invalidated. Good job stoking infighting instead of actually contributing to resistance, though.
Me too, I just wonder how many others had similar problems... I feel like the Democrats really shot themselves in the foot, because while yes, Green Party is a dissenting vote to them, a good amount of us would vote Dem because Trump represents a far bigger threat to the environment.
This kinda shit is why they say never meet your heroes because they'll always disappoint. I loved you on mst3k and I'm fine with people having a different political take but how do you convince someone who's grandparents were killed by an American ally that they should vote to keep that happening?
Is that how Trump thanks centrist liberals for handing him the presidency? If there had been an ounce of morality in liberals, we wouldn't be in this mess.
They wouldn't have to worry about it if they voted for an actual goddamn human being last November. But no, they chose smugness and pretentiousness. And they chose it because they're sheltered.
No we just fuck this rigged system. Burn it the fuck down. You feelin the Bern yet? I’m done with this rigged system. It doesn’t matter who we vote for the oligarchy always wins. The only way out of fascism is with bullets.
Are you talking about the people kidnapped from Columbia University? Columbia University... in New York? Very famously a very blue state and city, New York? The New York which overwhelmingly supported Harris, THAT New York?
Bullshit. You didn't choose anything but your own smug selfish pretentiousness. You just like standing up on your little sheltered pedestal looking down on everyone.
Choosing humanity would have meant electing someone who wasn't sending people to foreign prisons or destroying the dept of education.
look at you, big tough guy on the internet. go start screaming this shit in people's faces and see what it gets you. i know you won't because you're a coward, but you should do it anyways. you might learn something
Harris was supporting the genocide, supported a draconian border bill, spread Israeli lies, and silenced Palestinian voices (calling protestors antisemitic). Where was the humanity?
imagine thinking "being anti-genocide" is "smug and pretentious." i wonder how many neighbors you would have turned into the SS to protect your own comfort...
The blame game starts and stops with racist white people. 57% of Trump voters were white compared to 41% who voted for Harris. Stop punching left and start punching Nazis and white supremacists.
Dems aren't blameless either. They put together a crap right leaning corporatist centrist campaigned that didn't live up to the equality and justice philosophy most leftist believe in. It's becoming harder and harder to vote for the shit sandwich with cheese.
Especially when 「 far left 」 for them just means 「 opposed to genocide 」 or 「 wants public resources going to a social safety net and to protect trans people and immigrants not to have THE MOST LETHAL FIGHTING FORCE IN THE WORLD 」
That there were any third party voters on the left here is an indictment of American intelligence. Kinda wondering how they feel about his coal regulations.
And if you voted Stein I’d like to thank you for enabling Trump. Amazing how many German parties performed the same role for Hitler, surrendering in advance. How brave they weren’t. Hopefully they died feeling pure. Likely they just joined in.
Fine. If you think your group can take on the whole of the Trump state and win change go for it.
At the moment we have the Dems and if we can get a rocket up their ass there might still be a country to save. Don’t just go “but dems”.
Your group isn't winning is it? And all you can do is be mad at people who are saying they don't do enough. Aren't you one of the people you just criticized?
Jill Stein received 0.4% of the vote with 628,129 votes. Trump received 49.8% of the vote with 77,284,118 votes, beating Harris by 3,059,799. Dems would have lost with or without Stein on the ballot. Dems offered nothing to the working class & that's why they lost.
That's why Dems lost? And here I thought Dems lost because millions of Americans liked the hateful, racist criminal better than the sane, competent black woman.
Well, actually, their base is supposed to be working class people, but turns out their base is the donor class and the AIPAC lobby, unfortunately. That still hasn't changed. We need to force it via primaries in 2026
So instead of the woman who wanted a ceasefire, they camps tirelessly against her and passively voted in the guy who is absolutely fine with genocide and wants to turn that land into prime real estate.
I held my nose and voted for her but I can't blame people who couldn't. I CAN blame her literal complicity in genocide, though. If you can't see that you are the blue Maga, supporting the blue leaders no matter what they do.
says the people demanding we abandon humanity for personal safety, talk about privilege.
if they wanted the vote of those on this issue they should have listened to at minimum the undecided movement or better yet not stared their undying loyalty to israel.
The ppl who voted for Stein would not have won Kamala the election had they all voted for her. Even if third parties weren't an option, Trump would have likely won based on how many voted libertarian (which lean more conservative) and how many voted for Kennedy.
The democrats bled twenty five percent of their voters from twenty twenty
If you think that was the far left, if you think that 25% of the democrats are like radical communists, you should probably turn off msnbc and get a fucking clue
People who voted for Copmala Harris now get to complain and be annoying online while those things happen because Democrats are complicit in it and their pathetic "resistance" politics pose no actual threat to the regime they helped install
By the way, has anyone heard from or seen her lately? Oh well, guess we’ll see her again in 2028 and she’ll definitely want to tell us all about what she’s been up to! 🙄
She has a website and has joined and posted on Bluesky.
If you are curious about what she has to say, you are going to have to put in the effort to keep up yourself since it seems information on her doesn't reach your media feeds.
if folks weren't into supporting genocide they're automatically fascist? Explain it to me. Maybe if the DNC hadn't only been running conservative politicians for the last 40 years there might be more of a voter turnout... Or if they codified roe v Wade. Or made election Day a national holiday....
Did you just say that you kinda think that people who refused to vote for neither fascism, genocide or neo-liberal, corrupt capitalism kinda deserve to be detained and deported? Cause it kinda sounds like it...
I mean, the Democrats lost to non-voters. Being mad at them hasnt worked for several election cycles now. Maybe try listening to what they want? Or having popular platforms, like medicare for all?
You can not defeat fascism by partnering in a genocide.Their internal polls showed this reality. Kamala & Biden ghouls chose to voice an ironclad partnership w/ Israel after 15 mos of slaughtering mostly women & children. Your anger should be at them.
So why are you angry at voters who refuse to vote for genocide as opposed to Harris for committing herself to continue Biden's illegal funding of the genocide?
Voting is how we determine what we want. What you're suggesting is that we allow politicians to dictate to us what they are going to do.
Again, blame the Harris Biden team for not stopping Israel by stopping offensive weapons and a phone call. Biden, Blinken, Sullivan, McGurk laid groundwork for what is happening now. Under what administration was turned Gaza into a demolition site & killing fields?
Imagine thinking one type of unwavering support for genocide is better than another. Kamala made it crystal clear that she would continue Genocide Joe's policies, so whatever "good" you think she would have done for Gaza compared to Trump is pure fanfiction. You're living in a fantasy.
Very little would be functionally different for Palestinians. There’d still be hundreds of thousands of them dead and there’d still be bombs and guns sent by ‘Murica.
You idiots think we believe “Trump would be better for Gaza” but the truth is we know Gaza was fucked regardless who won.
Well, it sure beats being voting for a genocidal candidate. Although it does come with a lot of snarky feedback from people who seem smugly pleased with trump's continuation of Biden's genocidal activity.
Harris didn't think genocide was wrong. The fact that it's not a non-negotiable stance for you, and you write it off as being "undemocratic" is telling
First of all I did participate in democracy, despite efforts to dissuade me, and no, it's not a brave stance when the alternative is unacceptable to you. It was harrowing that both main candidates supported genocide and the "good one" decided doing genocide was more important than beating trump.
Wow it’s almost like the Democrats didn’t give people enough reason to show up. Seems like the democrats didn’t define themselves enough so they let themselves be defined by their supposed opposition.
If our brains have been so cooked that people can’t tell the difference between Trump and a mediocre Dem, then we really are lost. Like completely cooked.
It’s just not a difficult math problem. Was I a Kamala fan? Nope. But I live in WI. And we had 2 choices. 1 was objectively worse. If you couldn’t see that, idk how to communicate with you.
Do you think the world would be better if Trump was not the president? Serious question. If you really believe it’s equivalent, just me honest about it
Goddammit Frank, you’re so much better than this. Reveling in the idea of fascists punishing your political opponents is - and it pains me to have to explain something so fucking obvious - inherently fascist behavior in itself.
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never had a problem with ice or with the camps; just that trump's using 'em
shame
Her rejection by U.S. voters has killed whatever big dreams you all had for green energy and universal healthcare and no more wars and whatever else for a hundred years.
Guys like Sanders get blown out of the water because their big ideas are broadly unpopular, and your inability to wrap your heads around this is a huge skill issue.
when it is finally discovered that kamala won by a lanslide and #Trumpuskutin stole the elction, like every informed person in the world already knows.
I voted for your candidate what did he do? Oh that's right..not a fucking thing.
Literally, that’s what’s written in stone. What are you doing about them coming for the communists?
Your brain is gone, dog. Hang it up.
Sounds about reich.
if they mattered that much why tf do est dems and all your lib buddies spend all your energy shitting on them before/during/after every cycle rather than enticing them with actual meaningful policy?
ignore carvilleposters
The party failed us, lay the blame on those with the most power and agency.
Blaming voters excuses the rich morons who control the party platform, and are the real reason they lost.
Bullshit, shut up.
did they ACTUALLY succeed?
Yeah, the dems suck: but unless we all vote 3rd party, they have to be better than Trump, right? Or are Trump’s policies the price we must all pay so a dirty democrat isn’t in office? Is that what you’re saying?
2. You do realize America isn't a far left country, right?
Scratch a liberal...
The less than 1% of Green voters in the swing states that even had them on ballot are the ones to blame!
And the ppl who got their votes suppressed in Red States? Clearly far Leftists!
Frank, your strawman is lovely, what are you stuffing it with, nonsense?
I was being disarming by pretending to agree with the OP. Before showing how much of a farce blaming Leftists is, this is for ppl who want nothing more than to cover their ears and blow raspberries
When gov workers, who were being purged, told him to shut the gov down and he refused to a spine? They are not in on the plot and they don’t even know it
The Reps are purging early and mail in votes while trying to pass ID laws intended to prevent progressive and lib votes from being counted. And they are very good at it
i voted for harris but find you ppl insufferably stupid and boring.
This is nothing more than copium on the parts of you and the other libs commenting.
Maybe work on doing a second thing in your life
Democrats are like chickens with their heads cut off.
They have no guts, no courage, no fight.
They are only concerned with their wealth and posh lifestyles.
Larger than all the Democrats who vote.
Larger than all the Republicans who vote.
I get it.
Not everything is about *you*.
So anyway, according to *statistics* Harris lost because Biden voters didn't vote at all. And according to polls, they didn't vote because they "didn't know what she stood for."
So tell me: if Harris had gotten every vote that went to De la Cruz, would she have won?
And I never claimed that *you* were one of the people who refused to vote for a Black woman.
Dems who voted for Biden didn't go to the polls, because--according to them-- they didn't know what she stood for.
Not everything is about you.
Harris lost, not because there are many people who agree with you, but because a lot of people refused to vote for or listen to a Black woman. Where in that statement do I claim that you refused to vote for a Black woman?
Convince your neighbors to stop voting for felons. Preferably they vote for a candidate who actually has a chance of leading the country.
I’d keep that shame to myself.
Harris lost because people stayed home from the polls, not because they went to the polls and voted third party.
And if you voted for Trump on Palestine?
They were literally damned no matter what they did.
And these dipshits fall for it every time.
Just absolute dipshittery.
But morally, you should support Palestine because genocides are bad
Dipshit.
You can not be seriously saying that now as Trump demonstrates the overwhelming power a president has.
You can't be that stupid. Tell me you're just being contrarian, I would respect that more.
Yeah, if anything, they're downplaying the power of a US President, so go fuck yourself, Grand Wizard
Why do you lot blame voters who care and try and not the politicians who do things like chasing after the votes of bigots who will *NEVER* vote for them at the cost of winning ‽
She might have actually come out against genocide & for protecting immigrants & trans people and earned my vote
although I urged people angry at Dems to please understand the assignment in this election is: vote for least harm
but here's the thing: how many times can we go to that well?
we can't keep running like this
Yall are 2 sides of the same white nationalist, fascist coin
Until then, 🤫
Putin puppet felon and rapist who wants to disappear minorities is def going to be vanquished by you sensible moderates.
You Establishment assholes punched your credibility ticket long ago. No one's listening anymore.
i approve of this plan as long as we include maga and schumer dems
No reason for me to vote.
So ironic how you don’t even realize that you sound like Ben Shapiro.
Blame Trump and his sycophants, not the people he's attacking for not fighting back the right way.
Seems like a pretty reasonable ask.
Maybe don't be evil and you'll get my vote.
joking about people being rounded up by ICE & deported is bad, even when the people being targeted are "acceptable targets" in your eyes. all bc they draw the line at genocide. you're a sick individual.
Jesus Christ.
I didn't know this could happen and it sucks that it happened but this election was too important to just throw your hands up.
Was it too late to re-register?
Stein got about half as many votes as RFK jr. + the Libertarian candidate, and those pulled votes from the Right not the Left.
Centrists we t Biden -> Trump, Leftists mostly voted. At least similarly to 2020.
Are you talking about the people kidnapped from Columbia University? Columbia University... in New York? Very famously a very blue state and city, New York? The New York which overwhelmingly supported Harris, THAT New York?
Choosing humanity would have meant electing someone who wasn't sending people to foreign prisons or destroying the dept of education.
I'm usually a non-voter, occasionally a third party voter.
Your brain, the US, and its ideals are all full of shit.
At the moment we have the Dems and if we can get a rocket up their ass there might still be a country to save. Don’t just go “but dems”.
That'll show those third party voters who even when gathered together still wouldn't of won it for the pro-genocide party.
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/rcna179762
Yes, they are to blame.
Insane. 🤪
Are they being harmed by the bombs Biden and Harris made sure never ran out?
Here is a shit sandwich but ours is a shit sandwich WITH CHEESE.
if they wanted the vote of those on this issue they should have listened to at minimum the undecided movement or better yet not stared their undying loyalty to israel.
The loss is on her, and her shit policy
If you think that was the far left, if you think that 25% of the democrats are like radical communists, you should probably turn off msnbc and get a fucking clue
It is a candidate’s onus to win voters. Perhaps try and win their votes? Voter blaming is pathetic and only leads to more voter disenfranchisement.
If you are curious about what she has to say, you are going to have to put in the effort to keep up yourself since it seems information on her doesn't reach your media feeds.
great quip, bmorelisa, except for the part where you're lying about things that we can easily look up
Honest to god, what color is the sky on your planet?
Voting is how we determine what we want. What you're suggesting is that we allow politicians to dictate to us what they are going to do.
You idiots think we believe “Trump would be better for Gaza” but the truth is we know Gaza was fucked regardless who won.
Do better. Be better.
It began to occur to them that Frank might NOT be “better than this”.