. Nope. Not my experience. I used to read his columns at Salon, and I absolutely don't agree. He used to write solidly and didn't say stupid shit. Then he turned. I see him the same way as RFK, Jr. Before _that_ guy turned, he was a solid environmentalist and anti-corporate lawyer.
Right but he's been reprogrammed. I promise you he sees these prosecuted individuals as poor, repressed revolutionaries, ready to change the world for the better.
Is she though? She can't run for office, but (and I know nothing of law in France, up front) should she not go to prison for embezzlement? Would a normal French citizen not go to prison? A Punishment of not running for office for five years seems pretty lame in reality.
Funny how foreign fascists get prosecuted for their crimes but American ones don’t. Almost like the GOP has been working hard to ensure that they’re above the law, and finding (or paying) “pundits” to rationalize it.
Donnie boy's convictions were slam dunk. We all saw him lie to the press. There was nothing "nick-of-time" about it. Same with Bolsonaro who tried for a coup at the end of his term. Salvini was acquitted but knew that the orders he gave would land him in court. Sad what Glenn has been reduced to.
Taibbi literally wrote a book called "Griftopia" about how all these elites got away with fraud and insider access during the financial crisis of 2007-2009.
Yet now he is strangely silent about this Golden Age of Grift in today's Musk/Trump GOP. Guess the rubles are just that good.
Greenwald's entire political worldview is centered on the assumption that he is the smartest man in the room and that he MUST post
When even the dullest of dullards come around to the ideas he championed years ago, he has no choice but to pivot and to post like he's never posted before
He's not completely wrong per se but one-trick-pony journalists easily get weaponized by populists.
In Italy we had Berlusconi, who rode a populist wave after a huge political upheaval caused by judiciary investigation that just so happened to put in jail everybody the US didn't like (lol, lmao).
What happened is that by the time Berlusconi, who was the worst and the most corrupt of the lot, turned up, there was a lot of tiptoeing around bringing the full power of the state to bear against him, because of this sort of dissident voice.
As soon as a drop of state power is used against them all these people go uWu I'm the victim here.
Mandela did 25 in prison ffs.
Lets find out if RN is a real party or a ragtag bunch of people on the wrong side of the bell curve kept together by a "charismatic" cat lady who's in it for the money.
These fucking GOONS have been seen on TV talking antisemitic innuendo that would get their faces crushed into cat food if they ever dared to show them in the urban centers of France now going "I'm a smol persecuted bean". lol, lmao.
Unfortunately, Glenn Greenwald is incapable of understanding what is happening in the world, especially in Brazil, because he has never lived under a real dictatorship.
- When someone attempts a coup d'état and plans to assassinate an elected president, they must be punished.
Yeah they saw what happened in America when you give in to the right wing that commit civic crimes. So they all acted like we should have done and made sure these candidates can't run again. No problem with that at all
"You haven't been in the field as much as Glenn!" and "He's an award winning journalist and you're just some guy with a baseless opinion," are some of the arguments Glenn's fanbase made. It made sense then who's brain was really broken. And to think that I considered Glenn to be a good journalist.
Back a few years ago, I called out Glenn Greenwald for a lie or two about the Jan. 6 insurrection. He basically said that Twitter basically broke my brain. His fanbase attacked me with childish behaviors, like, "You don't have nearly as many followers as Glenn, so you're irrelevant!"
No hate to Eoin, but there are a bunch of long-term, bad-faith bullshitters out there, e.g. Greenwald, Sullivan, Chait, that I feel like we really need not & should not engage with anymore. Whether they're grifters or propagandists, what they contribute to the conversation is always only noise.
Off topic but who is so deranged they would paint Imran Khan as right-wing? Populist? Sure, but he’s as close to a social democratic option as Pakistan has seen since Benazir Bhutto was assassinated
I mean, here in the UK, we've seen a few Tories lose their seats for SA stuff, Reform's leader in Wales is being investigated for taking Russian money, and Labour lost MPs for punching people in the street and a past criminal conviction over a missing phone. So it's hardly one-sided.
I cannot get over the fact that Glem lives in Brazil, which is exhibit A for 'using the judiciary to disqualify a candidate popular with the underrepresented classes', did reporting on that candidate, and then is like 'oh but Jair Bolsonaro is the victims here' WTF
If you don't read Portuguese you've missed a LOT of this backstory: basically the Intercept in Brazil was instrumental in discrediting the Lava Jato movement and getting Lula freed.
That’s why it’s so shocking that Glem is trying to argue that *right wing* populists are the ones getting unfairly targeted! He watched the opposite happen!
I mean, Greenwald's politics were always sort of in this sphere (basically a right-leaning libertarian who really hates the American national security apparatus), but the more powerful explanation might just be, as the other poster said, that the internet rotted his brain with right wing propaganda
No doubt he became more irrational and incoherent but he was already heading into that direction.
He burnt many bridges in 2020, three years before David died.
He is right on one account, this is not coincidence. He thinks this is a large international conspiracy, Okham's razor should show him the truth: they all are frauds and as they grab the means to defraud people on their way to power they can't refrain to do it. He just can't see the obvious.
Greenwald, Snowden, Assange. Cowards when facing real fascism, real threats, real stakes. Like Elon, remarkably stupid. Never believed their utter bullshit. Useful idiots, every one, AND their followers. Was disgusted by neocons Iraq debacle & still believed they were absolute clowns.
Yes, criminals are going to commit crimes. Hate filled people are drawn that way. We as a nation once had an appropriate system of dealing with these types of people. Accountability. Period. The only way we as a nation can get beyond the grift and corruption is to find accountability.
contrary to American pundit brain worm opinion, it is not normal or acceptable in most of the world for election season to 24/7 for half a decade before said election
also it’s basically the same sentence Hollande got. that one’s not newsworthy, though, because he’s not right wing, or particularly left wing so they could make a point about his conviction proving the inherent corruption of The Left
“Marine Le Pen, whose far-right fascism, xenophobia, racism, homophobia, and authoritarian leanings I definitely do not endorse, is the real victim here.”
I’m sure it’s also a complete coincidence that Glenn figured out back in 2018 that Trump would stop at nothing to crush dissent by any means and decided to be a collaborator because his values better aligned with Trump’s than the thought they did.
He got on the payroll, for sure. Idk who's worse, the people who were always like this or people like him who made sounds like he knew better, and probably did, just to sell out and do a 180⁰
You're telling me the parties that advance and reward conmen, hucksters and grifters JUST SO HAPPEN to have their leaders brought up on criminal charges for conning and grifting? Suuuuuuuure
There's something so tragic about watching people go bad.
It's like they start off idealistic, with a mortal compass. They have high-minded liberal ideas but then the liberals don't do what they say the way they tell them to.
So they feel betrayed and they turn against liberals.
Glenn once was someone people paid attention to, for a very brief time, before realizing he wasn't entertaining enough to make the obvious lack of coherence funny.
This is especially a ridiculous claim in regards to Trump
All cases regarding him started during his first term, it's only due to the slowness of our legal system that the verdicts came out as close as they did to the 2024 election
And, notably, he wasn't barred from running or even punished!
Important to say that Bolsonaro wasn’t poll leading anything.
And as I recall Le Pen (and her father before) lost all the presidential elections that she faced.
Glenn missing the fact that Bolsonaro and Trump literally committed their crimes "while" still in office to illegally retain power. I'm sorry that this kind of crime takes place at election time, when they lose. Is the concern that prosecutors should have worked "faster" in prosecuting these crimes?
This sounds like a joke about, I dunno, a husband who gets caught cheating complaining because his wife never gets in trouble for leaving the lights on. Have other French pols been charged with crimes and are escaping punishment? What is he even referring to?
That IS weird!
There's a TON of convicted pedophiles in the far-right, too.
You just said a correlation that we all see and I think you just want it not to be true so you're ignoring it but it's still there.
Facts don't care about your feelings.
Greenwald lives in Brazil and simps for Alex Jones. He has about as much business in American politics that affect the lives of citizens as Elon Musk does.
DA Vincent Bugliosi was an establishment guy who prosecuted Charles Manson, an upstart, underdog white supremacist neo-nazi cult-leader and mass murderer who wanted to start a race war.
But Manson never got to prosecute Bugliosi. How is that fair?
It's just a huge coincidence that the husband of one of Putin's biggest western supporters died of a mysterious stomach ailment that sounded a lot like poison.
Glenn seems to miss that the populists attract people who want to commit crimes, and rely on gaining the confidence of people through their charisma to distract people from their criminal tendencies and policies.
Given that he lived in Brazil for as long as he did, married a Brazilian man who was a leftist parliamentarian and had children with him, what he’s saying is particularly egregious and absurd. He distort facts in such a manner that’s impossible to argue it’s a genuine mistake or wrong take.
during the Bolsonaro presidency Lula WAS the "poll-leading populist challenger" and the (right wing) establishment at the time spent years trying to get something, anything to stick to him
also it is obviously not surprising that people ideologically committed to paedophilia and corruption get convicted of crimes more often than people who aren't
Looks like Glenn is unable to understand the basic principle of conservatism: HIERARCHY. Laws don't apply to them the rich/powerful/pure because laws are created to control the poor/weak/impure only.
So they will never respect us or the laws: because that would demean them and make them one of us.
He's suggesting that their opponents are likely guilty in some ways so it's selective, which may not be completely unbelievable but it's still wild speculation unless he's aware of crimes of equal magnitude. But also, like, sorry- I DO think conservatives are more likely to commit crimes openly.
if you had come back to me a decade ago and described things Greenwald has actually done I'd believe all of it except "shilling against Palestinians" and "shilling for Bolsanaro"
That last bit is funny because, for a while, he was beating the anti-anti-Trump drum by saying “Americans don’t know what authoritarian rightwingers really look like, unlike me, since I have to deal with Bolsonaro!”
None of these politicos are remotely “populist”. They’re elitists of the worse kind-hypocrites and power/glory seekers for themselves and their own pockets.
Contrarians just fell in the crazy soup during Covid. What led them to question accepted bromides was weaponized by Putin and the tech bros into a weird QAnon brotherhood
We're past "both political sides should have equal amount of voters or there is bias", we're deep in "both political sides should have equal amount of criminal punishment or there is bias".
Also love the disconnect that maybe the crimes are the reason they're leading in the polls. If I arrest all my political opponents so they cannot participate in polls then get arrested for doing so, is my positive polling an indication of my innocence? Just breathtakingly stupid.
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I got into it w/ him years (decades?) ago, when he was at Salon.
He was a dickhead then & he's still a dickhead.
Nobody gets more outraged on behalf of Nazis than he does.
Yet now he is strangely silent about this Golden Age of Grift in today's Musk/Trump GOP. Guess the rubles are just that good.
When even the dullest of dullards come around to the ideas he championed years ago, he has no choice but to pivot and to post like he's never posted before
But to prove that everyone else is wrong.
And hooo boy, does that make for some deranged posting
Unclaimed Territory c. 2006:
“UPDATE MMCXIV: [four paragraph polemic replying to a one sentence shitpost in the comments under a @lawgunsmoney.bsky.social blog post]”
In Italy we had Berlusconi, who rode a populist wave after a huge political upheaval caused by judiciary investigation that just so happened to put in jail everybody the US didn't like (lol, lmao).
And so he did a full Trump basically.
I'm quite sure they are throwing the kitchen sink at Le Pen and you know I live in France and they absolutely should.
If you wanna cheat at democracy and sell our ass to Putin then AT A MINIMUM get ready to feel THE HEAT.
Mandela did 25 in prison ffs.
Lets find out if RN is a real party or a ragtag bunch of people on the wrong side of the bell curve kept together by a "charismatic" cat lady who's in it for the money.
- When someone attempts a coup d'état and plans to assassinate an elected president, they must be punished.
https://x.com/QuyllurMbyja/status/1902108005073617292?t=Z70tyJV3HgJ8LLiJFX_V_g&s=19
Trump was not an outsider, he picked a handful of the suprene court justices that decided the immunity case ffs
The GOP is trumpism, it is the establishment
Sullivan is a self important (yet indefatigable) twit, his knack for being ritualistically polite remains very British and serves him well.
Glenn is lost, mud wrestles with the neo-fascists & eats at their tables.
oh, nothing.
Money? Loneliness? The ineffable smell of one's own farts and rage at not getting one's due respect? i can't with all these bros anymore
He burnt many bridges in 2020, three years before David died.
What happened to that man? I know the answer to that question. I have concepts, but little of the right elements to begin to analyze Glenn today.
His mutation (allow me), has the weird effect of making me feel 🧓
stop committing crimes
THE ELECTION IS TWO YEARS AWAY. HIS BRAIN IS SMOOTHER THAN A BABY'S ASS.
I mean, what are the chances? 50/50?
It's like they start off idealistic, with a mortal compass. They have high-minded liberal ideas but then the liberals don't do what they say the way they tell them to.
So they feel betrayed and they turn against liberals.
All cases regarding him started during his first term, it's only due to the slowness of our legal system that the verdicts came out as close as they did to the 2024 election
And, notably, he wasn't barred from running or even punished!
The French presidential election is 2 years away
known “right wing populist”
And as I recall Le Pen (and her father before) lost all the presidential elections that she faced.
There's a TON of convicted pedophiles in the far-right, too.
You just said a correlation that we all see and I think you just want it not to be true so you're ignoring it but it's still there.
Facts don't care about your feelings.
Pro Russian critics of the West jussssst keep popping up
But Manson never got to prosecute Bugliosi. How is that fair?
I started years ago. That dude is a clown.
[plz clap]
The most powerful elected on the planet: not elite
Jack Smith: elite
So they will never respect us or the laws: because that would demean them and make them one of us.
Or the fact that they're actually guilty of those crimes.
he's critiquing the con of how the far right defers to the imperialist fake-left under pressure
lotta people trying to miss that 👀
https://theintercept.com/2023/08/09/imran-khan-pakistan-cypher-ukraine-russia/
Is he aware the embezzlement goes back more than 20 years?!?!?
Must be a vast global conspiracy!
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