While the signal protocol might be secure, uses personal devices that are not approved for high security discussions are likely compromised for high ranking people like this. You'd have to be a moron spy to not do this.
As usual next to zero republican senate members will stand up against crime, negligence, corruption and dishonesty when their people are responsible for it.
The Republican Party and Trump had to lie full time to American citizens to win. They lied all through the Trump campaign. They lie in every interview. They are not in an honest relationship with American citizens. This is not a valid "win". Their power is based on defrauding American citizens.
Serious question: how did NOBODY realize there was somebody from the outside who was on that group chat? The first thing I always do is double check when I'm added to a group chat, in case there's someone I don't recognize. And I don't discuss top secret war plans. More like D&D group chats.
Everything they do is illegal and they don’t care. They do it openly because they are too lazy/stupid to even care to cover their tracks. If they get caught in the act now and then it’s fine because it keeps the distraction factor high to provide cover for all the many other reckless things they do
Musk volunteered to be a technical expert that investigates how it happened. LMFAO... I wish someone would just put him on camera at a computer and say show us mister genius. Show us what you know how to do.
Don’t you think everyone on that chat is culpable? Waltz, more so due to his initiation of it but all the others should have certainly been taught how to handle classifies/secret/ad nauseam info!!!
This is what I’ve been thinking. Everyone on that chat should have k own better. Each and every one should be fired/impeached or resign from the VP on down
It takes honor to resign, and they have none. They need to be fired and perp-walked out with all their trash in a box, and then they need to go to jail and wait for their trials.
It's always said that Germany's biggest fuck up in WWII was that they kept way too many records.
MAGA Republicans never learn from history. Everything is fucking documented in their criminal activity. They even set the chat to delete in 1 week. Someone missed their Pres. records onboarding
Circle the 19 as well. How does this not get more attention? When it was the most egregious oversight on the page. The secretary of defense didn’t question who was involved; and his background is the “News”. Where details matter!
#petehegsethhastogo
Dems should wear "Dark Brandon" glasses to the hearings and show their own dark side - demand accountability and resignations. Introduce the GOP to karma, it's past time they met. Those involved also lied under oath to Congress and should face consequences!
They use code names so they can speak about sensitive things when opsec isn't guaranteed. None of those idiots understand that, and they've fired the people who could have informed them. "Houthi small group" is a bright flashing light to a foreign intelligence operative.
What I have a hard time understanding is why didn't they figure out an effective lie PRIOR to responding.
Not only is this administration entirely incompetent, but they lack the basic forethought and planning skills of a child. Seriously, a child would have planned a better response
They were all essentially on an open hotline to Moscow and possibly to China. This is a career-ending security breach in any profession. How is this even a question about impeachment, prosecution, and imprisonment.
Listening to his interview on Fox he is trying to peddle that Goldberg somehow got into his phone and changed his contact for someone’s else who would have been invited in the group. What a fking mastermind
They still don't understand that the major fuckup was not including a journalist on the chat. It was using a commercial, unsecured, civilian app that was known to be compromised by Russia.
To be clear, I don’t want #PiñaPete or the other members of the Signal circle-jerk fired.
The longer they stay in the public spotlight, the greater they illuminate the sheer incompetence and idiocy of the entire administration.
And that brings a smile to this otherwise grim time.
It's all a big misunderstanding. They weren't talking about blowing up the Houties. They were talking about their favorite songs from Hootie and the Blowfish.
In all fairness: credit to Stephen Colbert's opening monologue from last night
I know this isn't the biggest problem with this fiasco but Waltz set the messages to disappear after a week? If you're going to delete official records of classified info, why not do it sooner than a week?
It’s ingratiating to keep hearing them say that no countries, targets, or people groups or extremist groups were named. “Houthi” is literally the name of an extremism group based in one particular country. Make it make sense.
These Boomers don’t understand how technology works. Seems like Waltz was trying to get Ambassador Jamieson Greer on there and accidentally hit Jeffrey Goldberg who was most likely right above his name. You’d think he would check this before starting the conversation 🤦♀️
Why did he have "such a vile"* reporter's phone number? And deny knowing said reporter? 🤔
I mean, I've accidentally texted stuff to the wrong person, but it's not my job to make sure CLASSIFIED stuff isn't accidentally shared over commercial communication apps!
Not to mention Waltz set up the group two days prior to the chat. From Jeffrey Goldberg/ The Atlantic: “On Tuesday, March 11, I received a connection request on Signal from a user identified as Michael Waltz…”
Please step back and see this for what it is. They broke the law endangered the mission and national security and released a name of a CIA agent in the clear. But in Trump/Putin's mind even this is a success creating more Division/Chaos for our country.
Damn. Shit ton of receipts. I'm impressed that Democrats and media are able to dominate the news cycle when they want to, that Steve Bannon's "flood the zone with shit" strategy can be overwhelmed and neutralized. Doesn't bode well for Trump's plan for martial law and shooting protestors.
I'm wondering as well about the fact that they joined a Houthi Politically Correct group, never mind if it was small or large! Never realised the Houthi were so ethical. 🤔🤔
The "disappearing" set to one week makes this the equivalent of conducting official business "off-the-record" on Trump's golf courses.. And I'm curious about the MAR added MAR (along with other duplicates). Perhaps multiple devices logged in on a single account, e.g., "someone" who isn't REALLY MAR?
Every lie told by Trump’s security team is a lie told to the American people. And it shows what little regard Pete Hegseth, Tulsi Gabbard, Mike Waltz, JD Vance and John Ratcliffe have for the American people and the standard of truth.
Therefore, the American people have no confidence in them.
I wonder who the person was that he intended to add instead of Jeff. My guess is Jared Kushner since he’s controlling things in the shadows this time around.
Who titles a secret military planning chat "Houthi PC small group"?? Like... come on. That’s not just sloppy—it’s next-level stupid. You might as well CC Iran and throw in a Google Doc while you're at it.
Enemy hackers don’t even need to hack anymore. Just wait for one of Trump’s guys to screw up and accidentally loop them in directly. It’s spycraft made easy. The world used to fear America’s covert ops. Now they’re just watching group chat leaks in real time. 😵💫
No. Just your enemies laughing, & all the people US has previously hurt. Most peeps are past amusement because we’re all going to pay for the general ineptitude & contempt. 💔
And “Disappearing message time was set to 1 week.” Is just insane. Why would you set it to last a whole week instead of hours? It’s so many levels of stupidity.
OK, the Atlantic is lying.
OK, the Atlantic was on the call, but we did it on purpose to expose a leak.
OK, it was accidental, but we were just doing our job.
OK, it was bad, but no harm, no foul.
OK, it was all Biden's fault.
We blew up a piece of Yemen that was already blowed up! Yay! \o/ Let's go drink mimosas! #SignalGate
FTR i had never heard about Signal even being a thing before this debacle. Personally it doesn't encourage me to use it, but does this count as free publicity for them? …yay?
OK, it's just Yemen. No one gives a crap about that place. Those of us in the #SignalGate chat group can't even point the place out to you on a map! That's what the military is for! …they knew where Yemen is, right? Did we blow up the right country?
My dream is that the earlier directive to avoid Signal was written by Biden "leftovers" which is exactly why these assholes are on record talking about ignoring the "Biden pussy bullshit rules." Probably in another Signal chat.
Good job by The Atlantic calling the administration’s bluff that this was not an important text exchange. By downplaying the chat’s significance, the administration effectively gave The Atlantic immunity. Congress must act!
Clearly Michael Waltz believed he was adding someone else, and misremembered the name, or how the name was entered into his phone contacts. But you know, dementia Joe, sleepy Joe… blah blah
He probably meant to add Ambassador Jamieson Greer and accidentally hit Goldberg’s contact instead. One would think he’d at least do a double check of the list before starting the chat.
Unless Waltz knew what was going on was unacceptable, and thought that cc’ing a reporter would be the morally correct thing to do, whilst publicly feigning ignorance is, he thought, a good way to cover his ass. (This is tin foil hat conspiracy)
Like in the movie, The Creator, the military started a war and blamed the AI and banned all use of AI...later in the movie, the AI said "the nuclear blast was caused by a human due to a coding error. We had nothing to do with it"
The group accepts no responsibility and would start a war to hide it
"I was a longtime confidential source for Goldberg and had him in my contacts when I accidentally added him. Goldberg is trying not to burn me by refusing to talk about our relationship."
It was my cousin's sister-in-law's pool boy's fault, but to be fair, he was giving Waltz a reach-around at the time, so he probably slipped and added the journalist while indisposed.
Maybe a tall tale, maybe not... as tall as the tales coming out of DC the last couple days.
This is not party political, but an issue of the most fundamental importance to national security. As such Democrats should refuse to cooperate with normal Congress procedures until (at least) Walz, Hegseth, and Gabbard have resigned or been fired.
But just to be clear this is also on every Senate Democrat and Republican who voted to confirm these inept, bungling, unqualified people. @democrats.senate.gov
Fox News said it is no big deal, only a way for leftists to attack Trump. That we should remain outraged about Hillary's emails and documents in Biden's garage. They didn't even mention documents in Trump's bathroom.
We will never know how many attack plans, disappearances, thefts, and other malfeasance have been conducted that way.
Messages are erased.
Is there a way to retrieve them from their personal phones?
These things are beyond my knowing. They are supposed to be secure in erasing the messages. I think that's why they are using it rather than traditional methods of text or email. Being they are crooks they do want to erase the evidence.
To get around the dubious legality, they are all supposed to enter the chat into the official record. Bet none of them ever did. I wonder if there is a Whitehouse list of Group Chat names? Or even staff devoted to recording information from group chats? Same as the one recording docs in MAL toilets?
Wrong, the game plan was written by people who are intentionally undermining the United States of America, National Security, and international alliances.
What they are doing is intentional but they have no regard for the impact of what they are doing. Here in an effort to hide information from the federal government they expose it to any foreign intelligence service what can mount a credible email phishing attack.
It is prohibited for members of government to discuss official plans on this particular platform as it has not been designated a secure comm. It is further illegal for them to put governmental policy discussions in writing, then attempt to hide them from being findable through a FOIA request.
Lol I’m almost positive one week is the default time set for messages to delete. So like they 100% didn’t even take the time to figure out how to properly use the app they were sending classified info on. Which I guess is obvious considering the added Goldberg.
They’re already getting taken to court on it! Look up Legal AF’s video called “Trump hit with new lawsuit as more leaks drop”. Guess what judge is overseeing the case? Jeb Boseburgh: the judge that Trump and his team have been royally pissing off in the case about sending Venezuelans to El Salvador
He’s super close to slapping them with contempt there. This is just covering the FRA since it’s such a slam dunk case It’s not even covering the illegal bombing of the Houthi’s, the illegal use of Signal, etc. as far as i’m aware. I’m hoping another lawsuit can still be brought for those things too…
The gouvernent should run gouvernent business on government devices. Anything else should be forbidden and prosecuted. No personal phones, no private email server, no personal laptops.
It’s like Waltz wanted an outside witness to the clown car. I wish Goldberg had just contacted Waltz on the DQ to ask why he was added, and/or just kept mum in the hopes he’d be included in future chats.
My question is... if this is the "small group," was there a "main/large group," and who was in it?
I'm waiting for a committee member to ask that question.
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The fall guy has a fall guy.
When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus. - Turkish Proverb
Democrats, you have this power to at least EMBARRASS THE GOP AS THEY DENY THE INVESTIGATION!!!
Remember this recent case?
OKAY
MAGA Republicans never learn from history. Everything is fucking documented in their criminal activity. They even set the chat to delete in 1 week. Someone missed their Pres. records onboarding
#petehegsethhastogo
come up with a new strategy for
communicating war plans.
Fits right in with their views on science.
Not only is this administration entirely incompetent, but they lack the basic forethought and planning skills of a child. Seriously, a child would have planned a better response
SET TO DISAPPEAR IN ONE WEEK.
This intentionally violates the federal records act! Let's focus here, people.
How many Scaramuccis has it been?
Are there any leaks or plans for the next episodes?
The longer they stay in the public spotlight, the greater they illuminate the sheer incompetence and idiocy of the entire administration.
And that brings a smile to this otherwise grim time.
In all fairness: credit to Stephen Colbert's opening monologue from last night
It. Was. An. Invitation.
HEADS NEED TO ROLL HERE
Trump?
Not a chance
Why did he have "such a vile"* reporter's phone number? And deny knowing said reporter? 🤔
I mean, I've accidentally texted stuff to the wrong person, but it's not my job to make sure CLASSIFIED stuff isn't accidentally shared over commercial communication apps!
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans/682151/
https://bsky.app/profile/melodiaparker.com/post/3ll7j2hq3hk2d
(note added by Stormy Daniels)
They will eat the shit up, lick their chops, and ask for more.
Denying this as fact, is part of the problem.
I wish #America was in a strong enough position to Immediately Arrest and Prosecute such Traitorous Activities.
Moore's Law has been the Law Of The Land for some time now.
Enemies HAD these Signal texts immediately.
Maybe 2 separate devices
Hegseth used Signal a COMMERCIAL app, to text WAR PLANS, on a PRIVATE PHONE!
And worse is with Bondi DOJ, there won’t be any accountability!
Let's keep saying it, spread it everywhere.
OMFG
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-envoy-steve-witkoff-signal-text-group-chat-russia-putin/
No one will be punished for this. At all.
I'll happily be wrong, but I'll bet you a case of Pappy Van Winkle I'm not.
Therefore, the American people have no confidence in them.
Dangerous—and embarrassing.
No record, means it never happened
When I was a child my father Clarance worked with #MLK while my great uncle Christian Archibald Herter was Secretary of State.
They worked w/ #JFK and #LBJ cabinets to make America a better county!
Dr. King gave his life.
My great uncle must be rolling in his grave.
Oh yes there is.
"I didn't do that. You must be mistaken. Something is wrong with you."
Lie. Deny. Bully. That's gaslighting 101.
Hunter!!!
Biden!!!!
OBAMAAAAAAA!!!!!”
Sadly, I think you underestimating their gaslighting capabilities, and the obsequious ignorance of their audience.
Or similar…
OK, the Atlantic was on the call, but we did it on purpose to expose a leak.
OK, it was accidental, but we were just doing our job.
OK, it was bad, but no harm, no foul.
OK, it was all Biden's fault.
OK, we did it, but you are not focusing on how successful the strike was!
🤣
That does not condon drunk driving - does it?
These people are flipping nuts to sell this BS, but they sell it because 35% of Americans are buying.
There inlies the problem.
FTR i had never heard about Signal even being a thing before this debacle. Personally it doesn't encourage me to use it, but does this count as free publicity for them? …yay?
Oops. Too late.
Just like you should do with Nazis.
Time to make them scared again
LOL
Who was really going the orders?
And who in Michael Walz contacts has a name like the journalist?
https://youtu.be/LMh-FKnJ5cQ?si=ZE6Lk3Q19s2jGmlM
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3llaf6bhasf2w
"Unintentional Rapid Dissemination of Records"
Why would they need to do that if they’re already in and undetected?
Is that the stupidest lie ever?
The group accepts no responsibility and would start a war to hide it
Are we so concerned about the wrong person being added that we aren't thinking about who's missing?
Who did MW mean to add?
They don't understand why they are bombing Houthis.
Who is giving the orders?
humiliating doesn't begin to describe this debacle
Maybe a tall tale, maybe not... as tall as the tales coming out of DC the last couple days.
https://aiwillybillhuman.substack.com/p/trump-administrations-ultimate-spy
https://aiwillybillhuman.substack.com/p/trump-administrations-ultimate-spy
This being official government communications it is illegal to delete them.
Messages are erased.
Is there a way to retrieve them from their personal phones?
I’m sure his nightstand is a secure location for a week!
I have been infosec than these guys.
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I'm waiting for a committee member to ask that question.