Has it occured to them that one reason voters aren’t biting on the idea that liberal democracy is facing an existential threat is that they find it inconceivable the opposition party would be nattering about fucking egg prices if they really believed that were true?
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Oliver Willis
Just absolutely clueless www.cnn.com/2025/02/16/p...
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Cc @hakeem-jeffries.bsky.social @aoc.bsky.social
Get off line, it has broken your brain.
You’re a fucking moron
GOP let him go.
If you want a slipshod justice system, you're the fucking fascist, too.
Go simp in your ignorance of reality.
It's about eggs, and it's about eggs.
They will have to live with being called out for their terribleness.
At no point did I use the word 'racist ' but I certainly noticed that a lot of people just want to punish other groups.
Some people didn't believe the claims about fascism, but I really doubt anyone knowingly would trade it for eggs
And by "infinite ways" i mean "there's a lot more apathetic democratic voters and potentially-swayable Republican voters than there are economically-obsessed (for good reason, ofc) marginal independents
> a whopping 63 percent simply did not believe that Trump’s menacing rhetoric about immigrants was aimed at them.
JDs and MPPs from Georgetown or an Ivy - just law school clones, the lot of them. Go to exam, fill in blue book, proceed to next institution. As exciting and varied as filing cabinets.
It’s incredible to see the memory-holing of all the warnings from Clinton, Obama & many others who were routinely chided by the press & pundits for being histrionic.
https://time.com/4355797/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-foreign-policy-speech-transcript/#
Really compelling stuff from CNN. The fuck are we even doing here
Yes, there were plenty of low info voters who consume no news. But if they accidentally heard a news show in a bar or at some1's home etc., or believed their bro-in-law who does consume news--most media are Right Wng now
https://upine.medium.com/the-vast-reach-of-right-wing-disinformation-fbcee2715db7
We shdn't be stuck believing voters wanted this & won't change. Many are just ignorant.
What Democrats are doing is refusing to cry wolf while the wolf eats their children because the villagers didn't listen last time.
Do you have an example of either of them complaining about Democrats “overplaying the threat of trump’s fascism”?
if a plane engine started making horrible noises but the flight attendant was making jokes you would assume everything was fine
“Trump says Dems are rigging elections and Dems say Elon and “Big Balls” are shutting down fed agencies can’t belieb any of these crooked politicans 🙄”
its a god damn nursing home
We might never get an event that wakes people up until it’s far far too late.
Trump ran on rolling LGBTQ rights back to the 50s and punishing immigrants. Democrats and Greens certainly didn't push back.
but also Jeffries is so unbearably wooden and disconnected I don't think it would matter what he was saying, he neither connects nor inspires people.
Time to elevate some new ppl, imo
We all knew a Trump win would mean being stuck with a 6-3 SCOTUS for decades & without veto power, a GOP Congress could repeal the ACA through reconciliation.
They helped Trump win, and now the objective is to grind away at any opposition to help Trump/GOP win in the mid terms and 2028
They wanted Trump to win just to "stick it to the libs" knowing what a disaster it would be for women, POC, LGBT people, and the US as a whole.
They never go after Trump or the GOP, but spend 24/7 bashing Democrats.
My thoughts👇
https://bsky.app/profile/michellenj85.bsky.social/post/3lhu44jxhuc25
If Dems complain about Musk destroying our bureaucracy, MAGA will only cheer.
I would love to see something like what has been suggested for Pete Buttigieg to be doing daily briefings on the immediate threats, and maybe get AOC in there too.
I think Dems should do a media blitz where they detail in short/easy sentences what Musk is doing & who it hurts- but I also know their base will criticize them for it. Bc that’s all they do as a base.
But they're generally not doing that.
Any time any D is talking about inflation, connect it to a specific action done that is either raising prices or will do so. There are many options now!
Jeffries and Schumer keep hitting egg prices. Murphy/Schatz/AOC attack DOGE as dangerous/unconstitutional.
Some Dems are attacking cuts to the agencies on their own merits (protests in front of Treasury Dept), other Dems are now jumping on how the firings are harming entire communities.
"So it's eggs today, but tomorrow it might be access to national parks, timely tax refunds, safe air travel, etc. We think the Trump admin is pursuing an ideological agenda that is content to let real problems for working Americans fester, as long as the
"Keep in mind when I say something, it's not 'Hakeem Jeffries Says' it's often 'Dem House Leader Says.' If the words 'Dem Party' are in a headline, I want it to be an issue that Americans *already feel* are impacting them."
Whine and moan if dems talk about democracy
Whine and moan if dems talk about prices
IT IS NOT A MANDATE
HARRIS LOST BY 1.5%
The Democratic Party is center-right at best.
At what point do you have any standard at all of what isn't good enough? Or do you just defend the Democrats no matter what they do?
Do you understand why people were mad at the Uvalde cops, or were you going "um it's the SHOOTER who is shooting people"
Are you a child?
why are you and other "leaders" like @rbreich.bsky.social failing us ?
ntm, not a word on website of @indivisible.org or @huffpost.com
seriously: do you want to just post stuff or do you want to help ?
Fucking useless
And they wonder why their numbers are tanking and people are refusing To support this
The idea that the average voter is waiting with bated breath to get their cues from Dem politicians is honestly adorable.
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https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/03/anti-trump-group-ads-backfired-00125087
GET 👏 YOUR 👏 SHIT 👏 TOGETHER 👏
The Democrats are now attacking their own voters.
https://bsky.app/profile/newsweek.com/post/3lidodou6ui2s
OUR Democracy is at stake! Figure out how to arrest all these thugs. NOW!!!!!!
Dems should hold the price argument until the people are ready to receive it, and push corruption talk now, but I don't know what real difference it's going to make.
Unless egg/gas prices double or the market is cut in half, Dems have fully lost the economic messaging battle, and time spent on it is time not spent on "Musk and Trump are gutting the country" and showing examples.
As someone who lives in one as an "expat" ppl are actually really happy about it. Until of course they arent.
Ppl just arent serious.
No one is breaking the glass during this emergency 🚨
Every
Single
Democrat
Senator
Voted to fast-track Trump’s appointments in exchange for a 4 day weekend.
REMOVING obstacles for Trump is the OPPOSITE of “resistance”.
ANY poor american would know instantly that this is pathetic behavior from our supposed representatives.. people are scared planes are going to fall.. that nuclear power plants are improperly staffed.. Fuck eggs.
Of course, it will affect them at some point, but by then it's too late.
Egg prices affect them now.
The worst part though? They could learn about these topics within minutes using the computer they carry everywhere they go, but they don't care to.
And, again: electoral news focuses on margins.
The ~20% of persuadable voters chose the guy whose policy platform was entirely inflationary solely because he said he would fix inflation. They ignored/were ignorant to his platform and we'll all suffer for it.
More importantly, everyone makes mistakes — even deadly serious ones. My personal brand of TerrifiedOptimism(tm) preaches that most of our current woes ultimately come down to ineffective epistemic practices, which is hugely influenced by environment.
As to the "everyone makes mistakes" argument. 2016 was a mistake. This was a conscious choice.
Yes they deserve some blame, yes getting them out is very hard, and yes there are still moral issues at play, too. But ultimately, getting everyone on the same page about facts would help a TON.
The thing is, you have to actively work hard to be as willfully ignorant as most Americans are.
Blame it on whatever you want, but the fact remains.
Close quote in the wrong spot. Grrr
So tiring
Voters aren't going to care unless Democrats offer real coalition building policies like taxpayer funded universal healthcare.
Churchill had to offer an end to colonialism & social security to build a coalition against Nazism.
Democrats think vague talk of 'rights' will get votes.
Politicians on both sides have been ignoring the will of the people for decades on issues like free trade. Wages have stagnated for 40 years and the pols didn't care.
Trump promised people what they wanted to hear.
For decades both parties have ignored the will of the people. They passed free trade despite huge opposition from workers. Millions lost their homes during the housing crisis, but Obama let the banksters keep their bonuses.
If they really believed that liberal democracy was facing an existential crisis, they would be focus testing the best way to get /that/ message across.
It really seems that all available evidence points to the fact that Dem leadership /doesn't/ actually believe it.
They are fools.
He and Daily Kos want more ineffective Justice Dems primaries.
No thanks. Cori Bush is an embarrassment.
Idiots: "Lol, no! He's joking! We care about the price of groceries!"
Democrats: "Tariffs and deportation policies have historically bad results on prices."
Idiots: "Roflmao! Get triggered, libt*rds!"
After they eliminate anyone who relied on SNAP, Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, & any other programs, who do they go after next? After that tier is gone, who'll it be?
How have so few people thought this through? Or are they okay w someone else doing ALL their thinking for them?
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-argues-trump-existential-threat-america-trump-point/story?id=105401847
Americans have had it so good for so long, that it is inconceivable to most of them that it could really all go into the shitter, because they couldn't be bothered to vote.
So is some of the Dem messaging tonedeaf? Sure. Do I understand what they think they're doing? Kinda.
Dems using the (limited) tools at their disposal pretty well except for the megaphone...but they have some reason to believe that the megaphone just doesn't do much.
Now Oliver Willis wants to help Waleed Shahid elect more ineffective Justice Dems.
Jeffries, 1943: “Herr Eichmann! How is this lowering costs?’
No way a black woman..with a Jewish husband no less..was going to win in 2024 America..
Everything else is just noise…
No way a smart, articulate, highly intelligent and accomplished black woman wins a presidential election in 2024 America regardless of message..None!
Misogyny was alive and well even among black males..
"egg prices" = "the trains will run on time"
Good luck getting the comfortably privileged to care about the plight of the less fortunate, while they have piddling gripes of their own.
They'll find out once they start losing their own stability and security.
And now that the mission has changed from weakening government till it can be drowned in the bathtub to actually drowning it, aren’t you enthusiastic?
I read his social media posts but confess my diet of books doesn’t include libertarian ones.
It would be unreasoning and argumentative if I tried to make light of it be by pointing out we are finally free of the tyranny of polio vaccines, snowplows and air traffic control, now the free market can come in and do them better. BRB moving to Galt’s Gulch.
Sadly he passed from Covid