people should probably stop listening to anything these democratic strategists have to say considering where their strategies have gotten us - ThreadSky

iwriteok.bsky.social • 78 days ago

people should probably stop listening to anything these democratic strategists have to say considering where their strategies have gotten us

Reposted from Judd Legum

Very serious Democratic strategists advise the party to allow Trump to illegally dismantle USAID -- a decision that will result in the unnecessary deaths of people around the world.

www.politico.com/news/magazin...

Comments

yakbarber.bsky.social•78 days ago

"Wait and see" as a response to fascism has worked really well these past few years.

autumnfaye.bsky.social•78 days ago

I fucking hate liberals and the DNC. They can eat a bag of aids riddled dicks.

revbleech.bsky.social•78 days ago

"what does the spicy cajun corpse of James Carville think?"

genxjennifer.bsky.social•77 days ago

I hate this way of thinking because it imposes genuine suffering on innocent people.

crazehness.bsky.social•78 days ago

https://youtu.be/TMHCw3RqulY?si=XSQmFFsS3M8yJ3WD

hankscorpio.bsky.social•78 days ago

Quick tip from Chicago too: Don’t listen to anything Rahm Emanuel has to say in particular. Fuck him.

Can we make him an ambassador again? You know, where we can ship him off somewhere and forget about him?

Maybe Ambassador to Venus. Or the surface of the Sun.

rebochan.bsky.social•78 days ago

I'm sorry but the username and avatar combo on this post made me giggle.

philramone.bsky.social•78 days ago

Is it too early to start using the G word?

eibhlinniccolla.bsky.social•78 days ago

I wouldn't trust a democratic strategist to tell me if the sky is blue

jimmins2260.bsky.social•78 days ago

I’ve had a quite a frightening thought lately about how if this is how the United States slips into a fascist dictatorship, these people would rather acquiesce to the fascists than fight for their survival and risk losing power and/or their prestige

jimmins2260.bsky.social•78 days ago

If it was a choice between stepping aside, admitting the Democratic Party needs to change drastically/no longer exist and let a new group lead the opposition against right or letting it all burn, they would gladly let it all burn to maintain their position in society

bamamontana.bsky.social•74 days ago

But they’d end up losing their power and prestige anyway.

davidcon.bsky.social•78 days ago

This shit is the most Neville Chamberlain coded thing I’ve ever seen

oldbutstilltrying.bsky.social•77 days ago

They are delusional if they think this bunch who has trampled over federal and international laws left and right are going to stop in their tracks, if they say, hey no you can't do that. If I had known how little the laws meant when I was younger I would have been all about doing some crime.

oldbutstilltrying.bsky.social•77 days ago

I don't get how they think they are going to allow him to or not, since he is already doing it illegally he is already "not allowed" to do it. Guess what, he's fucking doing it anyway. How are we going to stop this?

mvthomster.bsky.social•77 days ago

David Axelrod needs to please shut all the way up. OMG.

tomotimo.bsky.social•77 days ago

Seriously, when is the last time Axelrod or Rahm Emanuel were right about anything?

sadiesketch.bsky.social•78 days ago

Please help spread the word - this is today (Wed) at noon in all 50 states and DC https://www.newsweek.com/50-states-anti-trump-protest-nationwide-february-5-details-2025300

And if you’re in DC, 1) today (Wed) at 3pm DOL 200 Conn Ave, and 2) folks are at OPM 1900 E St NW every day this week at 7:30 am.

bigtimebobbyblue.bsky.social•78 days ago

"Yes the water is getting hot, but now is not the time to jump" says senior Democrat strategist in pot of nearly-boiling water.

futchdipshit.bsky.social•78 days ago

very unserious democratic strategists

musicjunkie50.bsky.social•78 days ago

Both of those dudes haven't had a good take in years

zero0hero.bsky.social•77 days ago

I don't always agree with Robert Evans but . . . Yeah 100% agree with this one. They ought to be fired, aggressively, out one of those circus canons and into the nearest lake.

warmwestwind.bsky.social•78 days ago

Should do an episode on Rahm tbh

sedna1.bsky.social•78 days ago

In politics, soft power is the ability to co-opt rather than coerce. It involves shaping the preferences of others through appeal and attraction. Soft power is non-coercive, using culture, political values, and foreign policies to enact change.
USAID is pretty damn good at the soft power stuff...

uncleawol.bsky.social•78 days ago

Next week dem strategists are gonna be like: “no it’s actually better for us in the long run if Trump starts a war and dismantles the Department of Education”

sapphicintrapphic.bsky.social•78 days ago

“You don’t fight every fight”, bro is actually just advocating for preemptive consent. Who are these chucklefucks and why does anyone listen to them after all these years of their advice being proven worth less than the air they breathe.

edjrockdoc.bsky.social•78 days ago

It's such a wrongheaded take because it's focusing on "foreign aid" as if that's the core question here. The question is: can a private citizen who advises the President legally dismantle and defund an agency authorized and budgeted for by Congress? And the answer is hell no.

edjrockdoc.bsky.social•78 days ago

If the question was whether Republicans in Congress should do that, they'd still be morally wrong, but at least they'd have the question they were wrong about right.

jung-thug.bsky.social•78 days ago

Yeah, if there's one thing America hates it's a bad boy who gets results by not playing by the rules.

lefrnroc.bsky.social•78 days ago

Dems have so many wrongheaded takes that it’s practically the only platform they have anymore. “What’s that? The people DONT want us to send bombs to blow up children? Ok! We’ll approve more missiles to Israel”

edjrockdoc.bsky.social•78 days ago

"Dems" includes lunkheads like Emmanuel for sure. It also includes folks like AOC and Warren.

claybird1.bsky.social•78 days ago

comrademeow96.bsky.social•78 days ago

That's some fuckin appeasement level delusions. JFC

stoczko.bsky.social•78 days ago

Rahm and David are perfect examples of human stains

vala.bsky.social•78 days ago

If I had their track record in work I'd be both fired and sued.

billf.bsky.social•78 days ago

If you were the lead strategist behind the election and re-election of last popular Democratic president or the leader behind Democrats breaking Republicans' nearly 20-year lock on the House?

sabinstargem.bsky.social•78 days ago

Cowardice or collaboration, the hand and glove fit seamlessly together.

I genuinely hope the Gerontocracts are removed from power. We need people who can give a damn about America.

scoobertdoobert69.bsky.social•78 days ago

Ya know, I remember even my conservative county's education drilling into my brain that appeasement is a bad strategy. Like, they went really hard for that. Where's that energy?

theandysine.bsky.social•78 days ago

They couldnt strategize their fucking way out of a fucking toilet paper tube. Seems to me a big fucking stick is required here. Not some absolute bullshit nonsense.

leftyconspirator.bsky.social•78 days ago

dominic11b4.bsky.social•78 days ago

It has worked very well in 30s Germany. /sarcasm

airdeez121.bsky.social•78 days ago

Rahm Emanuel needs to be run out of town on a rail

Preferably into the ocean

corinchoppin.bsky.social•78 days ago

that's bad logic. Its like saying since polling was wrong in 2016 we should just ignore polling. Strategizing is always better than not strategizing. And people with experience are always more helpful than people with less experience.

olliemcclellan.bsky.social•78 days ago

Hmmmmmmmm, but what if the strategy leads to constant losses and, in the rare event of a win, counsels the winner to try to accomplish as little as possible? And what if the experience is mostly losing, while being an evil shithead?

starbug1.bsky.social•78 days ago

"Man who has been proven wrong multiple times says we should preemptively give more ground and 'keep our powder dry' for a bigger future fight, that will somehow be more important than the existential threat trying to actively kill us right now."

billf.bsky.social•78 days ago

To play the devil's advocate - I don't think he's saying it's good to dismantle USAID. I think he's saying most voters neither know nor give a shit about USAID.

jung-thug.bsky.social•78 days ago

One of the most consistent failures of Democratic strategy is treating the views of the electorate as being basically immutable.

billf.bsky.social•78 days ago

Even if a plurality of voters favor foreign aid, it's an argument that requires explanation and nuance when everyone is drinking from a firehose.

Musk is stealing your data to make himself richer and dismantling our national security apparatus (of which USAID is part) is a simpler argument.

olliemcclellan.bsky.social•78 days ago

Come to do good; stay to do well. Very well.

pans-labrador.bsky.social•78 days ago

Why would anybody listen to someone with such obvious shit taste in music?

alwayscorrect.bsky.social•78 days ago

Yeah we should wait until the other stuff they're working on causes dead bodies in OUR country.That would be more effective with our demographic.

But at this point,cracking the code of people who would still not vote might be a lost cause. Prob will take a crisis to wake them up, like covid did

joekalicki.bsky.social•78 days ago

Why don't they just put Jasmine Crockett in charge

brooklynkid53bskys.bsky.social•77 days ago

Why are you listening to Judd Legum at all, and espicially when he so obviously misquotes someone ?

The point, which is hard to believe but true, most Americans are opposed to foreign aid, or think it a huge sum spent on nothing

And we can't fight that battle; it is not winnable

tl;dr: grow up

mindonfire.bsky.social•77 days ago

Money—the cause of, and cause of, all of life's problems.

mixie943.bsky.social•78 days ago

1000%

mr-hops.bsky.social•78 days ago

"I swear, this time if we just kill the Mongol ambassadors then it'll all work out great!"

- 13th century Democratic strategists, probably

dataportdoll.bsky.social•78 days ago

all those titles after Emanuel's name give me a strong inkling to why their thinking is so out of touch.

tamikakoga.bsky.social•78 days ago

But they're dying on EVERY Hill, whether they choose to or not?
IS THERE A HILL THEY HAVEN'T DIED ON? It's like they're wearing boxing gloves to a gun battle.

sapphicintrapphic.bsky.social•78 days ago

No… they aren’t? They are preemptively consenting to destroying trans care. Voting for all of trumps picks, not doing anything about the MuskBoys rampaging around DC. Like, they are doing the total opposite of sacrificing us all actually

iamjoshk.bsky.social•78 days ago

Goes without saying Rahm is due for a BTB treatment

jesse810.bsky.social•78 days ago

We’re past strategy and flying into the guillotine/mussolini treatment territory

adipose-regina.bsky.social•78 days ago

The idea of "choosing your battles" doesn't make sense when a tyrant is bypassing all rule of law. Even if he were dismantling the Agency for the Torture of Kittens, you fight because he's doing it illegally.

JFC, Dems are so useless...

indorfin.bsky.social•78 days ago

He has my permission to die on any hill, plain, mountain, or any other type of land. Water too, even.

uncarvedblock.bsky.social•78 days ago

He’s a regular Neville Chamberlain.

kenmegalopsuxos.bsky.social•78 days ago

Yeah resistance meets an enormous popular demand right now. That old Napoleon chestnut about not getting in the way of your enemy fucking up is categorically different.

drhello.bsky.social•78 days ago

Meanwhile

countscrofula.bsky.social•78 days ago

THE POLITICS OF FAILURE HAVE FAILED. WE NEED TO MAKE THEM WORK AGAIN.

mofrommo.bsky.social•78 days ago

I’ve always sincerely hated the people
Obama surrounded himself with during his administration. Axelrod and especially Emanuel have the worst takes and continue to fall up in life. Frustrating at best. Deadly at worst for those who listen to them.

splitpunched.bsky.social•78 days ago

every post about democratic strategists should involve telling @geoffgarin.bsky.social to fuck off forever

wadethetrex.bsky.social•78 days ago

You can't tell me a dude with the last name "axelrod" is qualified to be a political strategist.

heliant.bsky.social•78 days ago

And Rahm Emanuel is now a strategist? He's a total fool who thought he could ride Obama's coattails forever.

comingupthrees.bsky.social•78 days ago

Professional strategists couldnt come up with a strategy to beat a convicted felon and rapist, a terrible businessman, and a twice impeached awful former president. And Chuck Schumer is in charge. And who has ever listened to Rham Emmanuel about anything? They’re a fucking mess.

spicydanny123.bsky.social•78 days ago

The world would be better off without most consultants

teeth077.bsky.social•78 days ago

David Axelrod in 2008: I think we can move past the hate and divisiveness of our legacy of racism to elect the first Black president.

David Axelrod today: Fuck it.

seentoomuch.bsky.social•78 days ago

Why, in this the year of someone's lord 2025, is anyone listening to Rahm Emmanuel?

stevedarnall.bsky.social•78 days ago

My guess is that it's because mainstream media is dominated by lazy journalism cosplayers who can't be bothered to do anything that would require even a modicum of effort.

sketchyquasar.bsky.social•78 days ago

Probably the same reason why there are people in the Democratic party giving Bush Jr. a pass because "he isn't as bad a Trump" 🙄

swarfhunter.bsky.social•78 days ago

Leaving a leadership/good will vacuum for China-- and to a lesser degree Russia-- to fill is brilliant strategy.

gundodestructo.bsky.social•78 days ago

Peace in our time, right?

hgb.crowstrike.zip•78 days ago

So which hill WILL he choose to die on?

otopico.bsky.social•78 days ago

But Democrats won’t

berserkerpiglet.bsky.social•78 days ago

You fight the fights you think you can win and if you don’t think you can win “we just starting giving hundreds of newly born children AIDs” then I think you might need to fire Burgess Meredith cause that should be an easy fight to train for

whatdoiknowjr.bsky.social•78 days ago

So, Rahm? Do fight ANY fights?

dreamingzen.bsky.social•78 days ago

But Robert they're just $35 away from saving democracy!

francisgasparini.bsky.social•78 days ago

First the came for USAID and Rahm said it wasn't the hill to die on, etc etc, and then they came for Rahm and he literally died on a hill

which, you know

jdixon10.bsky.social•78 days ago

Yeah this seems like such an awful strategy considering how relatively little we spend.

notcharaznable.bsky.social•78 days ago

How do they still have jobs? Resumes of total failure and yet they always go “well maybe it will work for us?”

dauntus.bsky.social•77 days ago

They should be branded as to never walk the halls of political leadership again.

murkmonk.bsky.social•76 days ago

I believe they should be held accountable and scored on a scale based on itemized lists of nefarious or shady actions. This applies to deeds and actions outside the political scope. Dickheads and twats show their character on the street. I'm a good dude, but I'm not fit for public office, either.

laughslast.bsky.social•78 days ago

Oh cool, we're at the Appeasement stage. Neville Chamberlain would be so proud. This strategy has worked so well in his experience.

goad.bsky.social•78 days ago

James Carville just told me to take my life savings and light it on fire

eveettinger.com•78 days ago

Well if I had savings…

blumanvt.bsky.social•78 days ago

Cajun style

exploder666.bsky.social•78 days ago

I will do this if afterward he bequeaths me at least half of his life savings. Also after he makes that notarized I will hire an assassin.

didntgetamemo.bsky.social•77 days ago

I'm just completely over this bullshit.

nerdbro3000.bsky.social•77 days ago

Agree dem strategists have been floundering… but I can see at least some logic in the US AID argument: let them do this one really bad thing, so the people see how bad they are before they do ALL the really bad things. Unfortunately, a lot of bad things have been done already (eg, 2 impeachments!)

dauntus.bsky.social•77 days ago

People aren't going to see it without the fuss, and Democrats need to be pressured to acknowledge the situation. There is no "perfect angel" among gov agencies to wait for, and purported "third rails" only exist so long as the old norms are kept.

bamamontana.bsky.social•74 days ago

They’re trying to do it all at once, though.

wyrdandnerdy.bsky.social•78 days ago

I'd love to give the democratic strategists a piece of my mind. A lot of pieces actually, rapid fired offa their ears.

I have questions they don't want to hear me scream at them. Questions like,

wyrdandnerdy.bsky.social•78 days ago

"What are the key variables in the equation by which you mathematically determine how much to devalue human life? Probably Physical_Distance and Degree_of_non_Whiteness-- but how are they related? Linearly? Quadratically? Is π involved?"

I want them to deeply comprehend: their ideology is evil.

jamiedcville.bsky.social•78 days ago

Are you saying this guy might not be who he says he is?

flanofcrows.bsky.social•78 days ago

Detective ducks the police tape and takes in the blood splattered scene of the crime. Kneels down, picks up a note that says "I'll kill again!!!". Nods to themselves, turns to the watching cops and says: "I think we'll let them have this one, they've got it out of their system now"

exploder666.bsky.social•78 days ago

No, you don't swing at every pitch. Fortunately, this is not baseball. Feel free to block every punch and hug after a jab if you need a sports reference to motivate you, Rahm. Better reference? I don't know, maybe the entire time McConnell was running that party during Obama's admin?

sketchyquasar.bsky.social•78 days ago

Ah.. yup, but it was us third-party voters who brought Trump to the White House. Got it.

spencilular.bsky.social•78 days ago

ranatalus.ddrextre.me•78 days ago

I don’t really care what hill Rahm wants to die on as long as he makes it snappy

akiirish.bsky.social•78 days ago

"We can take it up in the courts later" is not a strategy I'm willing to rely on.

leoprints.bsky.social•78 days ago

Isn't there some kind of universal metaphor about burying your head in the sand and that generally not being a very good tactic?

skippygranola.bsky.social•78 days ago

Surely Mr. Hitler will be satisfied with the sudetenland

avaghy.bsky.social•78 days ago

Two more democratic idiots who need to go away.

chrismacandcheese.bsky.social•78 days ago

Just let them have Czechoslovakia. Surely they'll be satisfied after that.

duchessofsnark.bsky.social•78 days ago

Came here to say this, appeasement doesn't work.

sky-writes.bsky.social•78 days ago

“As a former ambassador” Rahm got an appointment to Japan so he could be rude on NHK and get paid to do nothing. I have no doubt he’s okay with ignoring vulnerable people internationally given how okay he was ignoring them in Chicago.

Why does anyone still talk to that nasty lil bug about anything

omenq.net•78 days ago

"You don't fight every fight."

Yeah, but we haven't seen you fight ANY fight!

maketotalcollapse.bsky.social•78 days ago

David Axelrod, the man who has helped Labour Parties lose on 3 continents!

twilightmacaroni.bsky.social•78 days ago

Axelrod and Emanuel are exhibits A and B in the case of "The democratic party really wants to do a populism but sucks shit at it." They lucked into the Obama campaign and thus have no idea how mid they are.

willarther.bsky.social•78 days ago

I need to get a job as a democratic strategist. I bet it pays well and I would be REALLY bad at it. They think they’re fucking it up? They ain’t seen nothing yet.

ooksbooks.bsky.social•78 days ago

The job security sure seems amazing. James Carville came up with one successful catchphrase when I was in elementary school, and he’s been treated as a prophet ever since.

willarther.bsky.social•78 days ago

Ooh, that’s a good note, might be tough but it would make it way easier to do an awful job later.

sabinstargem.bsky.social•78 days ago

Thus, a new Napoleon Bonaparte of our times was born.

...at this rate, farce could become reality.

thecynicalxennial.bsky.social•78 days ago

I don’t know you, but I know you couldn’t be any worse than the current lot of strategists.

zero0hero.bsky.social•77 days ago

"Why can't it just be 1992 Again?!" - Current Dem Strategists.

mandronnie.bsky.social•75 days ago

They would pick 1992 over 2008 lmao.

willarther.bsky.social•78 days ago

Oh yeah? That sounds like a challenge.

redandblackpinko.bsky.social•78 days ago

“Democratic strategist” is probably the finest example of an oxymoron I’ve ever seen.

lgbtqanimalkingdom.bsky.social•78 days ago

“Thoughts and prayers” Democrats.

gaseousagent.bsky.social•78 days ago

"You don't fight every fight."

Geez I wonder why the fascists have taken power. It couldn't be because our leaders just couldn't be bothered to fight for anything worthwhile.

bamesjasler.bsky.social•78 days ago

It's a game for their egos. They don't give a fuck about people's lives.

jamifolks.bsky.social•78 days ago

"democratic strategist"

oxymoron of the decade

stillcrazy77.bsky.social•78 days ago

Not the hill??! You stop fascists on the first hill. On every hill.

emilschaufhausen.bsky.social•78 days ago

Agreed. Neither of these guys have been associated with a winning campaign in over a decade. Arguably that’s why the media is asking them instead of someone relevant like AOC or Chris Murphy

philriversider.bsky.social•78 days ago

They have strategists?!?

cookingtheresa.bsky.social•78 days ago

Right?! Like 🤦‍♀️

m0dality.bsky.social•78 days ago

If their strategy is to systematically destroy the Democratic party while the Republicans loot the federal government then they are doing a fucking bang-up job

amano-jack.bsky.social•78 days ago

Expensive Dem Strategists aka "The Losing Losers Who Always Lose", "The Architects of Snatching Defeat from The Jaws of Victory"

The ultimate sinecure position. Don't even have to produce results. Just have to do genius stuff like "You should send Bill and Ritchie Torres to Michigan"

jmbest.bsky.social•78 days ago

“Democratic strategists recommend running the corpse of Ronald Reagan”

radblitzballer.bsky.social•78 days ago

I think their strategy at this point is to just hit themselves so hard in the face they have memory loss.

brunhilde2525.bsky.social•78 days ago

They need to pick their hill and go die on it already.

sl128.bsky.social•78 days ago

"when the adults in the room see trump reaching into the cookie jar too much, they'll have to stop them!" - the 'adults in the room' party

bearjimbus.bsky.social•78 days ago

These dipshits don’t get it. This IS the fight. All the other Trump brain farts are just noise. Stupid tariffs, noise. US troops in Gaza, shiny objects. The ONLY thing that matters is the free rein Musk has to completely seize government.

tristanolson.bsky.social•78 days ago

They should be greeted in every political meeting with the words "How dare you come here you rancid taint stain." And then chased from the room. Maybe pelted with something on the way out.

maggiesteward.bsky.social•78 days ago

I seem to recall something, something, about Czechoslovakia.

scribble-sheep.bsky.social•78 days ago

What hill *is* this spineless coward willing to fight on?

kovarchi.bsky.social•78 days ago

“Look, sure our strategies ended up with the US being in the hands of Apartheid lovers who are dismantling anything considered helpful to anyone who isn’t rich but we’re sure we could succeed next time.”

eve-rising.bsky.social•78 days ago

Where do they get these people? Are they working for the other side?

o76923.bsky.social•78 days ago

Americans think the 25% of the budget spent on foreign aid is too high and want it decreased to 10%. It's actually 0.5%. This is a fight Democrats lost because they refuse to explain things to voters.

o76923.bsky.social•78 days ago

You want to win people over? Explain to them what they get for that money. Not the feel good life saving stuff, principles of democracy crap we pretend it's about. Brag about how good of a trade deal we got from deposing a guy or the terrorist who can't recruit because we bribe locals to stay home.

hugetinymistake.bsky.social•78 days ago

why is rahm emmanuel still speaking

pang5.bsky.social•78 days ago

Because no one has yet stuffed a gym sock in his pie hole.
We've been waiting on that for far too long.

uneasywriter.bsky.social•78 days ago

My thoughts exactly. Every time he resurfaces I wonder why he isn’t in an oil drum at the bottom of the sea. I ask for so little.

terraforce.bsky.social•78 days ago

Also who the fuck is asking him anything. You lost. No one cared. Why are you relevant

imperialaxis.bsky.social•78 days ago

There comes a point where ignorance is no longer a plausible explanation. We passed that point years ago.

banjomal.bsky.social•78 days ago

The Democratic party’s mission is to absorb all momentum from the left and dissipate it. They are collaborators and have been my entire lifetime.

borednoodle.bsky.social•78 days ago

The DNC would do well to recognize what is happening for what it is - an existential threat to the organization. The longer dems keep up this dumbass messaging campaign rather than engaging in meaningful action, the more their numbers dwindle to zero.

borednoodle.bsky.social•78 days ago

But I still say there's no meaningful difference between Dems and Republicans because they're all corrupted by capital and capital tends to love fascism because it leads to slavery - a favorite of capitalists, even if they won't openly admit it.

jrtfmsmithson.bsky.social•78 days ago

Tell that to my trans friends and family.

zoeconomy.bsky.social•78 days ago

Just like no one group of people is worth sacrificing to protect the rest, no one government agency is worth sacrificing to protect the rest.

peterwartman.com•78 days ago

"If we keep retreating without a fight, eventually the invading army will get bored and go home"

maxdoesnotexist.bsky.social•78 days ago

eternalcatwar.bsky.social•78 days ago

“These killbots will hit their limit eventually!”

slampage.bsky.social•78 days ago

Send wave after wave of men at them

madscitool.bsky.social•78 days ago

I mean, that was the Russian response to Napoleon's 1812 campaign in but that was a very specific circumstance.

coldspy.bsky.social•78 days ago

You run out of hills eventually.

motowncatmom.bsky.social•78 days ago

Enough with these dipshits. They're not suited for this kind of fight.

eternalcatwar.bsky.social•78 days ago

they piled into the Harris campaign and said we should stop calling JD Vance a weird couchfucker and you could see the momentum just fade away

alwayscorrect.bsky.social•78 days ago

That was the stupidest decision when they stopped that message. I dont know what that says about voters though. Pointing out he's a corrupt grifting criminal, that he tried a coup, that he wants to be a dictator, cut your social security? It's all boring, tired lib talking points, and such a low bar