He's factually correct in that the insurance companies guard against 'unnecessary care,' but the amount of fraud they filter out is dwarfed by the legitimate claims they're able to simply not pay. That's the real goal.
After reading some of these comments I am glad I made the decision to mostly self insure for medical care. I figured I’d have to fight the insurance company. Hoping there’s still Medicare when I qualify in 6 months.
If I'm an employer contracting with United Health and I now know that 92% of my employees' claims will be denied, I'm calling any other insurers to provide company benefits. There is no price point for fraud like that.
To be fair, the numbers are murky. The Daily Mail reported first that the UHC CEO backed an AI that rejected over 90% of claims. They later reported that the AI had a 90% error rate. US News and other media put rejection in the insurance industry at 17-49% with UHC being notoriously the worst.
So if UHC is denying 49%--nearly half, or even roughly 30%, as reported elsewhere, they are still an outlier in the industry. The shadiest of shady scheisters.
Yes, 30% is a long way from 92%, but no other insurer has admitted to using AI to replace human review.
My husband is doing this now for his employees. They were supposed to switch next year. Small businesses can do this, can large companies?
Would it be wise to talk to the company you work for and tell them your concerns? Will they care?
Doesn’t this only happen if the employer cares whether or not the employees get health care? Pretty sure mine just wanted whatever was cheapest for them.
That's a great call. we're forced to take employer provided insurance even if it's horrible. My husband's company changes the employees' medical insurance every year in early October, which is employees who are saving up for things like knee surgeries would have hit their max deductibles.
No it's worse, today they 100% understand what their policies do to the insured. They have the data they choose not to release it because that would make them look even worse.
Nah. They know. They just don't give a damn. Faceless people they will never meet.
Every story about a loved one being denied care, going broke and/or dying because of these greedy health insurance companies needs to be screamed from the roof tops.
So are the tiny minority of people who are *happy with their insurance*. They wouldn’t lose anything meaningful with a single-payer system but they’re hanging on to every crumb of privilege.
The income inequality in the US is greater than that of 1770’s France. This graph is almost 10 years old. The difference between us and France is Fox News, Newsmax , Oann
The phrase originates from Confessions by Jean-Jacques Rousseau, written around 1765, so before the start of the French Revolution. It was likely a fictional anecdote used to illustrate the aristocracy's indifference to the struggles of the poor.
We aren't "to blame" for about 80 percent of the cost side of things, but we could dramatically reduce costs, if the CDC is to be believed. If the costs were lower, we could worry less about UHC:
(How could ordinary Americans clean up their diet unless they knew?)
I have heard a lot of good things about German health care. A person I know lived there for several years and had to have heart surgery done. He said the care was better there than in the states.
Here in Canada we have public insurance for family doctors, hospitals and surgeries, and other primary health care providers. Then for prescriptions, some specialists, and short term disability coverage we have private insurance.
My bad these countries I think do not have private health insurance as the primary provider but I believe are only supplemental insurance. We are extremely unique in out health care set up.
Some European countries have mixed systems, I've heard.
We have a number of for-profit clinics and labs here in Canada, too, but they bill according to a schedule that lists out what the public system is willing to pay out for a given procedure.
People complain about waiting times, but A. that's a result of provincial conservative governments underfunding the system and B. that's because they don't understand that most people in the US wait just as long but ALSO have to wrestle with private insurers to get coverage they paid for.
In order to get everything covered you have to become poor and go on Medicaid. You can even get a free taxi to and from your appts. Working people pay for insurance and deductibles & co-pays. It’s why “they” fight against universal healthcare so hard. Tax funded universal care = no profit
We all know that our new govt starting Jan 20th will not investigate. There will be so much money bring funneled to our reps, money that could be used to help their patients. NO one will be help accountable
Fully agree. He began as a CPA for PWC. As you might know, accounting is fucking hard and most folks can’t handle it. He was a complex systems guy, ironically very similar to Mangione.
"Grew up on a farm" is what they all say. Was it an income source farm or was he just referring to their garden? Did the Thompson family work the fields or did they pay someome?
“A little better off.” He was from a working class family. His dad was a grain elevator operator who would side-hustle for farmers during harvest (imagine those insane hours). Brian got a BA in accounting from Iowa and was a CPA for PWC before United Health. Very respectable if you’re from Iowa.
I posted the obit. W/o knowing them personally, I can’t be certain about anything . It definitely sounds like Thompson was academically gifted & it propelled him out of small town Iowa. I’m from a very small town so, one has the potential to be a ‘little better off’ in their small town just with yrs
Sitting on over a million dollars worth of equipment and land, but it’s usually leveraged to the hilt. The income statements, balance sheets, and tax returns for average land-owning agricultural businesses and individuals are neither exciting nor impressive.
For perspective, the only roofs I'll swing hammer on, besides my own, are for farmers; that being said, with all smart capitalists, they tend to have similar looking arrangements; that's why Biden was talking about taxing unrealized capital gains
“Grew up on a farm” this isn’t the 1920s. Being a farm owner in the modern world means owning millions of dollars in land and equipment. They arent homesteaders lol
Even the richest farming families I know in my small community aren’t robber baron rich. Pretty sure I acknowledged he might’ve been better off than others but, to be a nepo baby, he’d have been given the farm & still be working it.
Look at how many of them bought into NFT's, crypto, and AI. They readily buy into any scam and a lot of how they act is basically just c-suite groupthink with the dumbest and loudest setting the tone.
As soon as the right and left come together and finally realize who the real enemy is (hint: It isn't each other) perhaps the pitchforks will, at last, come for those who truly deserve it.
As long as Republicans keep cutting funding for education, they'll always have stupid people who will believe them. That's been their focus for decades and electing a felon for president is proof they've achieved their goal.
While there is abundance of genuinely garbage people on the right, there is also a not insignificant segment of their population who has been effectively brainwashed by cognitive bias manipulation tactics. These people genuinely believe the hate, racism & intolerance we point out is truly a
“MSM lie” & that WE have been “brainwashed to believe”. Their brains have been so melted that they genuinely do not believe there is anything racist or intolerant within their ranks. It’s honestly wild to witness the cognitive dissonance firsthand when I try to point shit out.
One of my favorite cousins died of cancer. Because the insurance company denied coverage of the treatment. She had insurance, that she paid for. It was supposed to cover cancer treatment.
She was a wonderful person.
This is why they're losing their shit. It was once thought that no one could ever run a sub 4-minute mile until Roger Bannister did it May 6, 1954. Another runner accomplished it 46 days later. As of June 2022, the barrier has been broken by some 1,755 athletes, some while in HS. The genie is loose.
The other issue is that if you do become ill to the point that you can't work, you will lose your insurance coverage through your employer. So tying health insurance to employment is the beginning of the issue with it.
just started a new job and was going over the health elections. over 1/3 of my GROSS pay per month to cover myself and my kids, not my husband, and the deductible was 16,000. i opted out.
As long as Republicans control the government this will never change. The health insurance industry spent $750,000,000 on lobbying just to keep this ugly story going and the money 💰 flowing to their executives.
Lost a friend to insurance, not cancer, when her insurance denied her a needed MRI to check if her tumor was operable. They had to do an exploratory surgery just to find out it was still too big. She got post-op sepsis and died. She would have gotten more rad to shrink it down if she'd lived.
There it is. That's the phrase - You lost them to insurance, not the thousands of things that 'technically' kill us.
The insurance's /existence/ as a structure is what killed them. Not the doctor. Not the hospital. The insurance's existence is the culprit in the equation. People're getting it.
They believe they are untouchable and immune from retribution and the public’s wrath. Their indignation, callousness and greed will eventually bring them all down to face consequences they cannot imagine.
I think the only way to rein them in is by returning to a sensible tax framework for the wealthy. People making over $1M/Yr via income and capital gains need to pay a progressive tax that begins at 50% minimum.
The more these twats show their true nature as blood sucking parasites, the more people will unite and rise up against them, providing consequences that force them to change how they treat us.
Former UnitedHealth customer/victim. Almost gave up trying to get a cosentyx REFILL last year. They just kept coming up w new hurdles. Almost wore me down but I’m semi-good at bureaucracy, so after several missed doses, I finally got it REFILLED. Can’t imagine how many people just throw in the towel
This took months to accomplish. I have a notebook filled w notes trying to navigate this shit. The arthritis I hadn’t suffered in YEARS came roaring back. Eventually, I just wanted to cry, and I’m a grown-ass man. Kafkaesque doesn’t begin to capture the nightmare
I’ve dealt with the same over getting prescription medication covered. The amount of time and energy it takes…most people probably just do not have the time to navigate it because of work and life responsibilities. I wouldn’t be surprised if they deliberately made it harder for that reason alone.
I paid for my insurance through Covered California starting in 2014 which was subsidized by CA. I almost immediately was diagnosed with breast cancer, kidney issues, and autoimmune issues. My portion of the monthly bill was $350. I worked as a freelance graphic designer. Even with California’s help>
>I burned through my 401k pretty quickly. Come tax time, the State contacted me and said they'd like to put me on Medi-Cal because my earnings were so low. I have to say that my County and State have been better to me than any insurance company. I’ve never been rejected and they're even helping>
Not to mention the amount of administrative time my doctor and his staff were kind enough to spend trying to help me secure the Rx when they could’ve been, you know, providing healthcare. For the richest country in the world to have a system this broken is a crime.
Does anyone remember how they used to scare people away from any universal coverage with the concept of “death panels”! I would venture to say they what we have with private insurance is far worse. The gaslighting is out of control.
Death panels, if you call them that, are necessary. Without someone making hard choices, medical care might include backrubs on Mars. The problem is, in our system the death panels are private insurers who get to keep any money they don't spend on patients.
I remember the Enron tapes that were made public b/c of a lawsuit in Washington state - these sociopathic Texas A& M fratboy MBAs laughing about profiting off the misery of “grandma Millie”; & the mortgage guys laughing about “You’ll Be Gone, I’ll Be Gone” YBGIBG at the end of emails knowing fraud
Imagine my (and many other Houston commuters') shock when these billboards recently appeared along our freeways. Fortunately, it appears to be part of an elaborate joke.
I've had a great many conversations with Jeff Skilling and he's a very smart guy. He was guilty of a great many things. Hubris, lack of empathy and greed.
He wasn't alone over there in it it was a culture that infected all of them. Fastow created the scams, but Lay and Skilling approved them.
When every attempt to change an unjust system by legitimate means is blocked and the system becomes even worse, this sort of thing becomes inevitable. Be glad it was a CEO rather than a nurse or doctor he targeted.
Don’t get me started. My insurance decided the only drug that worked for my migraines would no longer be covered. After 6 mos of daily migraines, finally see relief from one replacement med and quarters injections at the dr’s ofc. My migraines are labeled by neurologists as “suicide migraines”
I used UHC for years I don’t know why I guess because they were who I had at my job before I went out on disability. I changed to Aetna and I have better coverage. Why don’t everyone dump UHC and see what happens? We could have rolling health care dumps. Until we have better health care
Most of us are tied to our insurance via our employment. Take what they offer or have nothing. Can’t shop insurance companies - only plans. I currently have CVS Caremark and CVS Pharmacy colluding on the price of drugs and making the determination whether to cover what my PCP scripts for me.
I certainly understand your predicament. I should have taken that into consideration when I made that post. Because of disability I left the work force about 10 years ago. With Medicare I can shop around and it’s worth the time because I live at the lowest financial level of my life
My son shares some of my defective genes and recently had to go through losing his job & insurance while recovering from Covid which put him in a flare and they essentially fired him bc he was sick. TWC basically said that’s what they did but didn’t pursue it. He’s had a rough year
I encourage you to call your congressperson and Senator. They need to know what the needs of their constituents are. My rep is MTG and she doesn’t give a 💩. But my senator Warnock cares and listens.
Exactly. People aren't celebrating this one person's death, they're celebrating the death of a symbol of corporate greed, of profit over human life. This one CEO didn't personally cause the death of any specific person, but the policies they enacted did, and *that* is what people want eliminated.
The Brits won't want him back. A bit like we dont want Murdoch back; to live here that is or as a citizen. He controls our media, govts are in fear of him. Ruthless all of them
It's the ceo's own fault for being a greedy douchebag. He would have a few billion less but also he would be alive if he paid out the people he denied. If a few more greedy douches have to die its their own fault.
My insurance recently denied a necessary medication, but I have yet to get a bill and nothing about it on my insurance account, so maybe the fear of God was put into them with this news, and they found the money to pay out.
Yeah, I have a similar story.
Plus, I am a diabetic without a glucose meter because I lost mine and they won't replace it. I have to wait until next year when I can finally get a new one, but fuck man.
Why aren't people writing to their representatives in government and de anding free healthcare for all at the point of use? Tell them that they won't have your vote without it. Stand for office yourself if you have to.
Yeah, you'll pay higher taxes to cover it but you won't need insurance.
That's an unfair question. Too many people need pro Bono services and it not this doctor's burden to work for free. The health insurance nightmare needs real reform.
That's the system working as intended. We're tax cattle to be wrung dry of every dime & use for labor til we break. Then they do the same to our kids & our kids' kids & we're just supposed to shrug our shoulders say "It is what it is" or accept that coz it's a societal structure that it aint slavery
When I broke my ankle I ended up with a 28000 dollar bill and I had insurance with a 3500 dollar out of pocket maximum but basically they just do whatever they want
I say again the deductibles need a reasonable cap. I personally wouldn’t even mind if it went by household gross income. FFS, the insurance choices people have to make are ridiculous. Either they grab all the $ for premiums or screw us with outrageous deductibles. It’s got to change.
This is why I did not get insurance. I had to choose being able to pay for prescription, blood work and off visits OR insurance premiums but I couldn't afford both.
Why not lower the price of his surgery? Or do it pro bono? He's the doctor doing the surgery, after all. Sounds like a dick move to blame the high price of his own labor on the insurance company.
Erm, you know, the costs of having surgery don't just consist of the surgeon's fees. And the payment to the surgeon doesn't just end up sitting in their savings account earning interest.
Do you know who actually deserves what they earn? All good medical staff.
Doctors don't have the authority in most cases to waive the cost of surgery, and even if they donate their time there's still the rest of the staff, the room, and everything that goes into the surgery that would get billed. Drs are pissed too, but can't afford to cover every surgery.
Others also explained. Pro-bono surgeries aren't a matter of the doctor waving the fee. The hospital has to wave the fee. It requires the hospital eating the cost of equipment and resources, and there's a whole surgical team and an in-patient care team to be paid too.
No offense at all, but your response is exactly a symptom of this larger culture we're trapped in around this. Passing the buck to give people an out for their unscrupulous behavior.
Had a CT scan. One radiologist saw something benign. The other — didn’t. My very expensive PPO wouldn’t cover a PET scan. Paid for it myself b/c I am privileged to be able to do that. Guess it would be cheaper to wait until I was stage IV. (I am fine.)
The way insurance is supposed to work is that everyone pays into the system including the healthy & those lucky enough to not be in an accident (for now) in order to pay for the sick and injured. Actuaries build complicated models to price this out. The intention is not for billions to be left over.
The intention is for CEOs (often accountants) to get huge pay packages for increasing the share price. Corporations don’t care about people. The whole meaning for their existence is profit. Just read their corporate bylaws and articles of incorporation.
Correct. Nor should it be tied to employment. Employers shouldn't be in the insurance business (they don't want to be) and employees of one company shouldn't have better insurance options than employees of another company (i.e., the company that chose United Healthcare).
That's public insurance, the good kind. this is private insurance so the billions left over go to the middle man. They are as fucking useless as Intuit and H&R Block
For-profit-healthcare really is awful. These people are shaking you down for money and keep trying to dodge out of their obligations. Their motive is making money, not making you healthy. Cancer patients or anyone ill, this is an utterly terrible system!
The Physicians can gift the (deductible) care if they wanted to.
I had an eye exam that was in depth and out of the scope of what was approved and payment to the Specialist was denied.
They still haven't billed me. I think they know they overstepped what was approved too
Trump calls everyone else Shith*le countries. All the while he works to make ours one. Crypto makes bank when our economy sucks. What's Trump & Elon pushing? Crypto. Treason. Full Stop ✋️
I was a healthcare consultant for over 30 yes. The last several yrs of my career caused me so much depression. I loathed my work & all the spin my counterparts were putting on high deductible plans like they were the end all be all.
Look at this poor peanut…believes ankle fracture surgeries aren’t covered as they’re unsuccessful. More like “routine”… Some suckers will believe anything their cult says 😂
(Didn’t reply to him as clearly MAGA based on profile, just blocked)
My husband & I can totally relate to that. With insurance, we’re both having to pay thousands out of pocket. Knee replacement out of pocket deductible is approximately $4500. I’m needing an MRI & my out of pocket cost would’ve been $800. We had to cancel. It’s a damn shame.
To top it off, our medical insurance is w/none other than UnitedHealthCare. Each year since retirement in 2017, premiums & deductibles have increased significantly. And less & less procedures are being covered. They were our employer’s only insurance option & ours. 🙁
For real. In some ways, I feel like the social media outrage in response to this event should be studied once the dust settles. So much of it was fueled by rumors, incomplete and unreliable info, and bad actors. I’m included in said “outrage.”
That said, the outrage is valid and understandable.
A solution to corporate idiocy is a hostile takeover. Shareholders can direct the company to invest in good will, but they don't. When they start bailing out, buy it up.
I don't think United or their corrupt protectors in Congress fully grasp the what is coming. It's like an avalanche at night while sleeping in your tent. You end up entombed before you know what happened
I have HPN which is part of United Healthcare. I have asthma & I’m allergic to albuterol. The levalbuterol rescue inhaler I need isn’t covered. I assume because I haven’t tried an albuterol inhaler which has the opposite effect. My maintenance inhaler costs $5 less than the rescue with a coupon.
"There are two novels that can change a bookish 14 old’s life. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."
And I was amazes me that these people who read atlas shrug and very much identify with it, miss that the whole second and third generation family inherited CEOs that come off as secret society frat Bros are villains in the book.
"Snakes in Suits" was the most important book I read during the early years of my adult work life. The focus is on sociopathy in the ranks of leadership, also includes recs on how to deal with these people.
Thanks - I had checked alibris before the library, assuming I would need to buy it, it's around the same there. If it's as good as you make it sound, I am going to buy copies for my daughters, both recent college grads.
That book had a permanent and visible home on my cubicle's desk for more than a decade. I was even fortunate enough to hire one of the authors to write an original column for my mag.
But the fictional characters in Atlas Shrugged had critical skills to keep the world turning, CEO skills are mostly negotiating large pay with minimal work goals
I think the short answer is "forum moderators in the 2000s/2010s." A lot of "free speech" was spoiled, sheltered white dudes opining about Ayn Rand or Ron Paul, and anyone who got mad or nasty with them got in trouble, while they were sexist, racist and classist with impunity bc "technical rules."
I like the idea that there's a scale for how far one's head is in their ass and that forum mods are just one of the levels. What a truly strange time filled with what must highest volume of wildly petty power trips
Every publicly-traded corp. lives and dies (absolutely just an idiom) by its quarterly earnings report. Top execs are singularly focused on earnings bc a huge portion of their compensation comes from stock options.
Have you and @taylorlorenz.bsky.social considered the argument that’s bubbling around out there, that the whole current American healthcare debacle could be laid at the feet of the Obamacare architects?
I found a lump in my breast. My doctor felt it too and ordered a diagnostic mammo and ultrasound. United Healthcare would not cover it being done at the hospital. The only place I could have it done.
Likely somewhere cheaper. Hospitals may charge over 3x what a free standing imaging center charges due to administrative costs, but they may also be the only place in an area with a specific imaging capability that a doctor/ provider needs for better diagnosis.
That is exactly it. There were no other options for me in my area, plus at the hospital I was able to have the doctor view both right away and I found out I was Ok immediately which was such a blessing.
Crazy how out of touch the C level employees are there. I saw the "protect our customers from unnecessary medical procedures". None of their business to get between you and your doctor. Thank you but I can make that decision for myself.
Well the media message is a lie to demotivate the average person from attending college. That cuts down the real candidates to the kids from richer families.
This pleases me to no end. They should not feel free to passively kill paying customers through attrition and deny, defend, depose. They are the most unctuous scum of Earth.
They may not think of it that way - like people said in the WW II concentration camps, we were just following orders.
The problem is when people are reduced to numbers on a spreadsheet- the human part is lost. The game then is to make the numbers (denial goal) to get quarterly/year end bonus
I highly doubt they're that deluded. They say what they need to say because they know if they were just honest about their work, they'd come off as overtly villainous, which is bad for business.
I’ll never forget when my Mom was dying from ovarian cancer in 2003 her chemo was the worst. Her insurance covered her pain med Oxy to a copay of $2. But the Zofran to fight nausea and keep food down they wouldn’t cover. My Dad has to pay $200 for 4 tablets.
Drug her and let her die was their motto
The pharmacy was also completely screwing you over. You can get that nausea medication on the Grey web for like $1/tablet. The pharmacy absolutely gets it from the drug manufacturer for less than that.
Now, but the price of that med back in 2003 was nuts. I’ve been a Pharmacy Tech for almost 20 years. It’s crazy how prices have changed over the years.
Very. She died in 2003 and it’s what motivated me to become a Pharm Tech and try to help people. I now work for hospital billing fighting denials from insurance companies so that patients don’t get stuck with as much of the bill.
A little cog in the machine but trying to fight the fight.
She had begged her dr for a hysterectomy since the early 80’s. Small town Dr and insurance sucked. He refused every time stating “your husband may want more children”. Her response “he can have them with another wife then”. My Dad begged the dr to do the procedure because he respected her choice.
I've heard that from a lot of other women, that their doctors refused for the same reason. Being told it's your husband's choice as to whether or not a woman has more children is devastatingly patriarchal.
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Eliminate fraud = 2% revenue bump
deny legit claims = 30% bump
They're taking money "to provide health care"
and then failing "to provide health care".
https://bsky.app/profile/snmrrw.bsky.social/post/3lcxxu6ull22b
Yes, 30% is a long way from 92%, but no other insurer has admitted to using AI to replace human review.
Would it be wise to talk to the company you work for and tell them your concerns? Will they care?
Honestly they’d be better off giving the employees the money and letting them go to the marketplace
I’ve never really understood the business take on it either. It’s stupidly expensive for them to provide as well
One of the Sorrows of Empire!
Modus operandus
These healthcare CEOs seem to be at roughly the same level of ignorance.
Every story about a loved one being denied care, going broke and/or dying because of these greedy health insurance companies needs to be screamed from the roof tops.
WE NEED TO SHARE OUR STORIES!!
Apparently having a mental illness/additcion means you stop needing shelter.
Yes, United Health Care is a steaming pile of crap.
But, sir, so is that breakfast you’re eating.
80 plus percent of US health care costs go to treating the preventable diseases of lifestyle.
It’s mirror time.
(How could ordinary Americans clean up their diet unless they knew?)
https://www.cdc.gov/chronic-disease/data-research/facts-stats/index.html
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80 percent of US health care costs go to treating the mostly preventable diseases of lifestyle.
We could shrink United Health Care down to a manageable size if we took care of ourselves. Mirror.
Which is the actual point of this particular thread.
We have a number of for-profit clinics and labs here in Canada, too, but they bill according to a schedule that lists out what the public system is willing to pay out for a given procedure.
There’s much to discuss here.
or something…
have heard that ssri’s can kill empathy … or could also just be one of the few %errrs born sociopathic &or psychopathic.
they do appear to care when mirrored 🪞
irony is lost on them ❤️🔥
wonder if some academics have already pieced together that puzzle 🧩 & just haven’t wandered across it yet?
And I've heard these stories before for others... 9 times out of 10... there's some grandpa who or uncle who is one of the wealthiest people.
Maybe this is the exception?
He's wealth begetting wealth.
And he never once questioned the morality of his wealth.
https://bsky.app/profile/adamchristopher.me/post/3ld267a6vnc2d
who will do the dirty work.
https://www.tiktok.com/@morgan_cierra/video/7446141630387703086
I mean, it's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him.
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She was a wonderful person.
Russia Communist and America Capitalist, both failed systems.
That's why they don't let us pick the providers.
We just get whatever is cheaper for our bosses.
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#AuditThe2024Election
The insurance's /existence/ as a structure is what killed them. Not the doctor. Not the hospital. The insurance's existence is the culprit in the equation. People're getting it.
That phrase, ‘lost to insurance’ is just so powerful.
What a cruel system.
Insurance company logic? 🤔😭🤦♀️
LOL
Bring on the leaks!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J_swGiAHhbQ
He wasn't alone over there in it it was a culture that infected all of them. Fastow created the scams, but Lay and Skilling approved them.
The outrage goes beyond one CEO, this how these systems work. And Brian was a beneficiary of that system. It is what it is.
We don’t want harm to him or his family or anyone; we just want that reciprocated.
It's fine.
We (the public) have so many reasons to be angry. You really don't want that anger directed at you, on top of what we're already angry at you for.
You want to play Russian roulette with tone deafness? Be my guest.
This is my story.
Shouldn't be hard to figure out what med it is, given the price and the other story I just shared.
Plus, I am a diabetic without a glucose meter because I lost mine and they won't replace it. I have to wait until next year when I can finally get a new one, but fuck man.
Yeah, you'll pay higher taxes to cover it but you won't need insurance.
Do you know who actually deserves what they earn? All good medical staff.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-08-21/obamacare-ban-on-doctor-owned-hospitals-should-be-repealed
It's not that simple.
We already know these things are not actually that expensive.
That's why you can go to Mexico or Canada or Japan and the same service is 30x less
Why not pay into this your whole life versus throwing away $$$ to a for-profit insurance co.
Only to rely on Medicare when yr old and actually in need of medical attention etc.
Make it make sense!!
https://bsky.app/profile/paleofuture.bsky.social/post/3ld3fbfgfyk2f
I had an eye exam that was in depth and out of the scope of what was approved and payment to the Specialist was denied.
They still haven't billed me. I think they know they overstepped what was approved too
(Didn’t reply to him as clearly MAGA based on profile, just blocked)
As is education, access to food and water, safety and housing.
Feel free to add anything I left out.
That said, the outrage is valid and understandable.
That’ll show the rest of us.
Also, that alone tells me CEOs have no taste; that book sucks, even just from a literary perspective.
it's rare for them to not have it...
That’s a sentence meaning they think we’re all a) exceedingly stupid and b) worthless anyway, so who cares.
But then, why are they paid so much? Lol
It’s a high end club
The problem is when people are reduced to numbers on a spreadsheet- the human part is lost. The game then is to make the numbers (denial goal) to get quarterly/year end bonus
If it’s medical care, then it’s automatically necessary.
Drug her and let her die was their motto
A little cog in the machine but trying to fight the fight.