There’s been a kind of…fashion of late to view anti-Trump libs as lame and cringe and just annoying, aesthetically. I remember this exact same aesthetic judgment in the run-up to the Iraq war. The earnest libs were right then and they’re right now.
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I wrote a 2008 master's thesis on the liberal hawks supporting the Iraq War, and their post-9/11 descriptions of their "conversion moment" definitely has the same divorced-dad aura of feeling like this new political-opinion starter-set makes you look cool.
Are you defending the uselessness of "earnest libs?" 'Cause if you're bringing up what libs did in the face of W. Bush and the aftermath, you're bringing up how useless they were.
lol no you didn't - you complied immediately, leading to a multi-decade unwinable war that we can't safely protest cuz you dickheads also passed the patriot act. the republican war drums won with your assistance you useless fucking turd
We were always right. We have ears and brains that hear and understand language and actions.
The criminal, in fact, plainly told us his vision quest for a crashed economy and riots in the streets here, in 2014.
We ‘libs’ aren’t hypnotized. We are observant, clearheaded, and rightly vigilant.
Perhaps because what's happening right now is not the result of just one man or just one election, and they tend to focus more on him as a person than any meaningful actions, so all their talk of "resistance" starts to feel mostly symbolic.
"flood the zone" tactics have immediate impacts, and uplift those grudge filled morons. since exec branch has overwhelming power, keeping bottom line resistance by court battles and state level pushbacks are the only counter for the moment.
Hey Chris, if you really want to do some ‘investigative journalism’? Look into what’s happened on the last 24 hours at the CDC.
Were the airline crashes designed to…divert attention?
Idk about this. Resistance is not cringe. The resistance libs are specifically seen as annoying because they're selective in their outrage, devoted to the american exceptionalism that got us here, and, crucially, bad at resisting.
The blatant lying that elevated McCarthy is again commonplace in Republican politics, standard operating procedure in Donald Trump’s America. Of all the reasons to worry about the country’s future, it is the refusal by seemingly reasonable people to reject obvious lies that may be most frightening.
#Democrats were the small-compromises, pacifying, corporate-backed mafia. Legalized pillaging with lip-service to justice, data-backed, and truth. This coup is from a no-rules, strong-arm, fascist mafia taking over the #US centered around #drumpft #musk #project2025 #heritagedoundation #magacult
The people who tend to view them that way are leftists who stood on the sideline with their arms crossed while Biden did more things with a smaller majority than any post-WWII president
Yep. There’s NOTHING fascists fucking hate more passionately and deeply that people who unironically care about HELPING OTHERS/MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES extremely passionately and deeply. Fascists in general are extremely nihilistic, misanthropic people because it REALLY
helps fuel their violently bigoted sadism and cruelty. Neo-Nazis are joyless, hate-fueled creeps who want to force everybody to validate their sadistic fucking politics of endless suffering, murder, and goddamn DEATH.
One difference is that there are many more Russian trolls on ALL social media now than there were in 2011; even here on bsky there are thousands of trolls posing as "Liberals", but only to slander/hate-monger/blame/ "accuse other side" of Trump's crimes and corruption; thus, to divide Dems/Liberals
It's not enough to be anti-Trump. They must also be for things that people believe will improve their lives. They must be very vocal about these things and convince folks that they will actually do what it takes to achieve these things if they're given power again.
I've heard, "Yeah, I hate Trump too, but Democrats aren't going to do anything for us either." More times than I can count. The people saying that sat out this election. That's where being just anti-Trump gets us.
Where is the outcry? Where is the press? There should be lawsuits! Controlling the message the public receives is one of the first steps a country descends in it’s road to fascism!
We are on our own. This is a choice point for humanity. Do we allow Felon 47 to have his way or stand in our power and unite against a coup? This is no longer about being right or wrong. It's an existential crisis for the US.
No it isn't. Not even close. The way they have been towards marginalized groups is straight up hurtful and harmful. Just bc libs say, "orange man bad" doesn't make them right on anything.
So…”cringe” isn’t a verb anymore? TF?
And as for how people are viewed, that’s some textbook definition of Opposite Day happening.
There’s nothing more “cringe” than MAGAs.
It’s almost funny, but it’s actually tragic to see people so at odds with facts and truth, and following the likes of tr*mp.
Only bc those who are judging you as such, are just a bunch of brown-nosers to rich People. In hopes that scraps from the rich People's meals trickle down into their plates.
Notice how that wasn't an issue in Trump 1.0? Bc there were no rich People pouring money to support rank & file corruption.
The Democrats, and the Canadian Liberals need to make a definitive ideological shift to the left. This includes; getting money out of politics, define human rights which includes medical care and mental care for all, firm social safety nets and compensation (protections) for employees from new ,,,
technologies. They must commit to a new plan of election fairness. Political Corporate power must be taken away and monopolies must be demolished. Companies must prove public benefit, innovation, research and environmental benefit before any interest of investors.
It wouldn't be at all if the Cons and Republicans didn't drag the whole political system to the insane right. ps. I want my unicorn black and breathing fire.
There's been a kind of ... fashion of late to bash the left for not voting Democrat because that party is lame and cringe and annoying.
I remember when the earnest liberals in the Democratic party supported the Iraq war. I see them not resisting fascism.
I wonder how bad it has to get before Republican senators and representatives will join the resistance. I think that a half dozen in each chamber will open the floodgates.
I remember. I remember being told in a note from the school (that all parents received) how to talk to my kids about the war and it could have been written by the Bush administration.
I got my international news from NPR and I knew better. Still waiting on accountability.
You think it's the same?
You're dismissing the fact that liberals use to be anti war.
Now..they embrace war.
Champion it.
Endorse, campaign and protest for it.
You went from democrats...and turned into liberals.
It's not rhe same thing.
Im more of a mind to fashion myself after the French Resistance. Just insignificant enuf ti be overlooked, but with internal fortitude to not lay down for evil.
Never has anyone been so unworthy or unwell to take on this position. It is is not going to go well. There will be all kinds of unintended consequences but i do fear severe societal unrest and a military coup.
Maybe the libs would work with some of the slightly more left at least instead of making sure nobody but the old cancer guard gets those precious committee chairs. Libs got plenty of teeth when it comes to their left flank, they got uhhh God or whatever Hakeem said when dealing with Trump.
Thank you for saying this! This is the biggest problem the Dems have ignored for a long time the left for fear of being looked on as commie. But here's the thing, the right still gave them that label. Embrace the qualities and, so fucking what that they are seen as valuing people over corporations?
Libs are just realizing something the left has known was happening for decades. Work with us and stop helping the right to always womp on us or hide when they call us names. And give us a shred of visibility. The right platforms any saluting wahoo and the Dems are still afraid of the Soviets
This was a huge, coordinated movement to oppose the Iraq War. Where's the organized pushback today? Everyone's got their heads down and their mouths shut.
I find there's been a general revulsion against earnestness in general, not just in politics. Ironic detachment is the name of the name, sadly, and their voices are (ironically) loud. The occasional Ted Lasso or whatever shows there is still a craving for the earnest, though
Maybe you can explain why Dems have not been able to adapt to new politics... use Trump tactics on Trump....are they stupid,corrupted, or just don't care?
I'm a New Yorker and knew that Trump was a criminal and an idiot all my life, and it isn't a short life.
But now, we are in the position of needing to let it play out. This country is going to get a lot worse before it gets better and that's just the truth.
THEY ARE COMMUNISTS AND ALSO ILLEGAL ALIENS NOT JUST FROM ACROSS THE BORDER BUT FROM OTHER PLANETS, JUST LIKE ELON MUSK WHO WANTS TO RETURN TO HIS HOME PLANET OF MARS. #ELONMUSKISANALIEN -MTG
I was one of @20 in my sm university town that protested our projected entry into W. Bush's disastrous Mideast wars every week until he finally did it. People threw things at us, cussed us out, & called us traitors. I made bets w/many people that WMD wd be shown not to exist, bets they've welshed on
Strange how all of those "Right all along" libs are still treated as pariahs by the media, while recently-former Republicans who just figured it all out yesterday are feted as sages and oracles.
Interesting. And the former GOPs just know their x-colleagues well. It would do the dems good to pay FAR more attention to them, much less embrace them as the allies they are.
For some reason, any argument fielded by anyone remotely approaching Left, even just relative to fascists and not actually remotely left wing, and even when based entirely upon proven facts, is seen as ideological whereas those to their right are Serious Trustworthy Grownups.
“Earnest libs” continually support and defend right-wing actions. They announce they’re “concerned”, or “shocked”, but do little to block anything. Instead they use it for fundraising. “Earnest libs” are the enablers of fascism, always giving fascists the benefit of the doubt and then act shocked.
Both of my Democratic Senators voted to pass the Defense Department bill. That bill ended reimbursement for health care for trans kids. I am still so pissed.
Leaning-in, claiming and weaponizing cringe in not about reposting more cringe memes, it’s about the type of bravery openly queer people have displayed in the face of open hostility. If you’re not queer, you might have to be more creative about living-your-truth as a means of standing-for-something.
Obviously anyone confronting other types of bigotry is equally brave, but since queer people could choose not to be open, there’s an innate rebelliousness about the identity worth special consideration. It’s also an ethical journey open to everyone.
The main media outlets share a lot of the blame for Dumm Dumm. Treating him like a normal candidate. We need to show all his awfullness in proper context.
the justice system has been compromised so that's out of the question. Seems like the only real answer is targeted armed resistance. The only good nazi ya know
My sincere hope is that he does not completely destroy our country...and after these four horrible years we can address the issues the left(the real left) has been talking about for decades. Money in politics, special interests, corruption, and term limits. I may be dreaming, but still...
Obvi more complex than just these things, but it would be a good start to get the bought/paid for people out that caused this and they exist on both sides. Insider trading, lifetime appointments, rich/elite/power hungry people all need to be shown the door. Power to the people not the corporations!
Some are still around that remember the same with the Vietnam war. The 18 year olds were drafted to fight although they didn't have the right to vote against it.
Bro what are you even saying, what is an earnest lib? All I see is the lot of you rolling over and showing fascists your bellies and speculating whether or not he'll really make the trains run on time.
Right, lots of keyboard warriors amirite? HAHA anyway so what are you doing to stop the Orange Mussolini’s plans? Are you also rolling over or are you specifically doing something besides letting us all know that we aren’t doing 💩? Because if you’re ACTUALLY doing something, I’m in!
Why are you spending your saturday morning defending a millionaire online whos main job is to get you to cheer for a team that is currently losing worse than ever before
Nope I did not do that but I did point out that you have no plans and are currently running your mouth like the rest of us. We need a plan; not a captain obvious.
the mark of an idiot 'so what are you doing?' WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT POLITICIANS WE ELECTED TO FUCKING REPRESENT US SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THE THING
LITERALLY HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE YOU? THINK ABOUT IT AND ANSWER EARNESTLY
I’m not the one out here calling people cowards while the only plan was “a dem Jan 6”- did you read the whole thread or did you pick and choose what you wanted just to call me names? Calling me an idiot while yelling doesn’t imply that you’re a smart person to be taken seriously
is it wrong to want more of them outraged, that to be so utterly disappointed in Schumer, even Jeffries, that so many democratic politicians have faded into the wallpaper
No. I'm just as enraged at them as I am at the rest of this horrific clown show. They may not have the numbers to do much but get loud get angry be seen and obnoxious every hour of the day. Call out what they see and hear because you know they hear and see shady stuff across the isle
and that’s intentional, it seems MSNBC after 4p est is about the only channel giving a voice to democrats and really examining what is happening and at risk, hoping Rachel’s return goes far beyond 100 days
It's made even more complicated by... everyone, everywhere, talking about him all the time.
I'm sure mainstream media deserves most of the blame, but they must get the impression that people are interested in that one subject that no one can seem to stop talking about.
it is his desire to monopolize the news and create confusion, you’ll notice with that horrible crash at Reagan he managed to pull much of the media focus away from the crash & back to himself by suggesting DEI is the culprit
it’s not a fashion. it’s not aesthetic. it’s a widespread realization that those politics are dying and completely inadequate to stop fascism and any history book would have told you that
White and a non-insignificant number of ME leftists including non-U.S. citizens did help but ultimately white people led to Trump winning those 4 years Biden was in office white people and minorities (non-Black) should’ve been actively shaming anyone willing to support Republicans.
So when the next elections came around 2022, 2024 we saw the results of normalization of fascism coming to fruition. Media should have been calling the Republican Party a terrorist org and calling ANYONE who supports them terrorist supporters. People should’ve pressed their fam & friends on
Republican talking points they regurgitated. Leftists who believed “it can’t get any worse” should’ve been pressed on how they could assure that and if it did get worse answer how they would stop it without replying on Black organizations and organizing on the front lines. Things we need to do now.
If only you and your colleagues had done more to remind folks that Chuckles is bad and we could have had 4 more years of Biden or Harris, but no, you wanted ratings. Let’s focus on the current GOP and an unelected zillionaire stealing our info. Who cares if Dems are trendy??
Bluesky is full of the far left who actively encouraged people to not vote now complaining that normie Dems aren’t doing anything after we spent the last year begging them to see what Trump was.
There are thousands of posts celebrating withholding votes, or voting against Biden (then Harris), over Gaza before the election.
If anybody dared to point out that Trump would increase human suffering *everywhere*—that person got yelled at and called a “shit lib”, among other things.
It's not a great argument for a lot of people. You kinda can't kick Palestinian women out of the tent and expect them to vote for you. They'd prob rather die. Unlike shitlibs, they have dignity.
I mean, they could at least be smarter than the Right
I was called out for months despite being progressive & I was contacting officials daily to call a ceasefire. Had a bunch of people block me as well. I read Project 2025 but I honestly don’t think these people understood how bad it would be. Now they’re silent. Go figure.
Yet, I'm still waiting for one of you people to explain why the Liz and Dick Cheney fans didn't show up and put Kamala over the top since they are the ones she was appealing to.
Your refusal to see that politics is a number game and she had to try to appeal to the greatest number of people possible and not just a bunch of people who were always going to vote for Jill Stein or RFK anyway tells me all I need to know about u.
In a democracy, is it the responsibility of the citizens to follow their leaders unquestioning or the representatives of the people to get votes by appealing to the public?
I don't think leftists are complaining that Democrats aren't doing anything. Ruling class solidarity is what we expect from Democrats. We know who Trump is, which is why we urged the Democratic Party to nominate an electable candidate and why we supported Sanders in 2106 and 2020. This is on y'all.
Again, I understand what you're doing, I'm asking you why you think it makes sense to generalise out from your personal experience on a niche social media site?
Repubs have basically stolen this election, suppressing up to 4 million votes. And the Dem candidate, and her flaccid party show no pulse, decrying it? We’re supposed to be excited by that??? Or is it loosing by design?
Teresa, with all due respect, your first post on here was November 7th.
I was here the whole time, and I follow a LOT of folks, who run the continuum of leftism. The conversations about voting went on for months. They were complex and nuanced, and changed in tone when Biden belatedly stood down.
Bullshit. I've been here since invite codes were required, & there loads of arrogant fuckwits pontificating about the moral superiority of not voting for the "lesser of two evils."
Did you follow the conversations, over months, observing as a relative outsider, as people wrestled with their conscience over whether they could or should vote for someone funding a genocide, people DIRECTLY influenced by Trump policies, aware of the implications should Trump win?
I deleted that second reply. It was a snarky cheap shot. I'm sorry.
To try and blame the loss of the election on the discussions occurring on what was still a relatively small website, does nothing to change where y'all are at now.
You seem to literally be imagining this. You’re accusing random people of encouraging people not to vote- without knowing if they actually did. You’re on a binge or something, and you need to chill out about it.
It was everywhere prior to the election and these same fuckwads are on here complaining that Dems didn’t cater to their personal politics so deserved to lose.
And here’s the thing; when people told the Democratic Party that they could not vote for them while they were complicit in a genocide, the Democratic Party told them to shut up, that they didn’t need the votes. Then they lost. So it turns out, they did need the votes. That’s what you’re mad about.
It wasn't a "fashion of late," it was crucial to Don the Con's Tiny (1.5%) Win in 2024 because they knew how very annoying their leaders were. Putin spent $10 million on the White Identity Bro podcasts and Elmo spent $250 million to weaponize Twitter & other activities to help himself.
RYes, Republicans are continuing to do their utmost to weaken the Democratic Party and protect their own, once again.
Check out their latest move because they know which party has been cited more often for child ab*se. (see @antifaoperative.bsky.social ) https://bsky.app/profile/knittingknots.bsky.social/post/3lh3caajgec2y
Not all approaches to advocacy are equally effective. Turning an opponent's own words against them will generally be more persuasive than simply calling them names.
Not seeing the comparison. People may react badly to a style of talking about Trump when they don’t believe the person is concerned about those Trump is hurting but only about party politics. Some literally said they want Latino immigrants to suffer and be expelled right after the election.
Gee...there seems to be a "fashion of late" to do this? As a liberal voter since 1976, it's hardly the first time that intelligent but uncool politicians (think JImmy Carter) and calls for attention to obvious crises (think Greta Thunberg) has been subject to ridicule by the right AND legacy media.
Righttt just like Obama was funding Al queada yk the terrorists responsible for 9/11 n you know who was also pardoned Liz Cheney do you know what her n her father did they got us into the Middle Eastern conflicts by claiming there were weapons of mass destruction even tho they knew that wasn’t true
I have always been a proud “lib” which I believe means putting people ahead of politics, having compassion, and providing opportunities for the disadvantaged. History is going to show that diversity is a strength not a weakness.
I'm not sure what you mean? Libs don't have a monopoly on seeing the blatant fascism from day one 10 years ago. Unless you are including leftists in this?
I remember being a kid when Bush came on TV and announced the illegal invasion of Iraq. I asked my nazi republican dad why we were doing that and he told me it was because we were attacked. I now know that was a lie and Bush's evil is being repeated today by Trump and his warmongering with Iran.
Not to long ago a republican fella I know said Dems don't own weapons and wouldn't do anything to stop anyone who tried to overthrow the country. I told him I guess we'll see...... I guess we are.
I am a radical leftist and have been rabidly anti-trump since he came down the escalator. So much so, in fact, I've long argued that the standard way of tepid opposition and aggressive centrism will not work. I was 100% right. The idea that 'libs' are the only ones who hate trump is ridiculous.
You know, it’s amazing how most MAGA & the new wave republicans stfu when you tell them they’re not true republicans & they’re fake-triots & you slam in their face the values of true republicans. 🤣😭🤣
I was in third grade when Trump was elected. I despised him then, and I don't like him any more now. You know something's seriously wrong with this country when a third grader has more foresight than 77 million people.
Yeah I'm 62 and from New York I've known Trump was a f****** con man since the '80s trouble is his people are so brainwashed and too arrogant to admit it
The first time he went ‘bankrupt’ in the 1980s, I remember feeling *palpable* relief that he would not be in the public eye anymore. Sadly, it did not work out that way…
I gave him a chance. Didn't want him to win, and thought he was embarrassing to his own party, but i kept an open mind. But within a week of taking office, it was clear to me that he was unfit.
I have filed a criminal complaint with the Colorado State Attorney General against Elon Musk and DOGE for illegally accessing private data through the Treasury Department. I suggest every American citizen do the same in their State. DOGE and Elon Musk are not government agents
Good luck moving anything thru the court system is that t2.0 has clogged it. The resolution of this mess may be finally settled thru the courts but it won't be stopped by the courts.
I had a meeting with trumps top guy in Atlantic City in 2008. It was the most disturbing meeting of my career. I left it knowing we would never do a deal with them.
I appreciate what you are doing, keep up the good fight!
lmao, the self proclaimed leftist whose party has never controlled a house of government ever, not even once, is convinced that him and his niche believes are 100% right. the country moved to the right in basically every single state this past election and you think the solution is more tankie shit?
I've despised this man long before he came down that escalator. He's always been a vile, wretched, disgusting asshole his entire life. He has never had one iota of a redeeming cell in his body.
If he didn’t have adoring fans, he would be nowhere. Authoritarian followers are always about 20 to 30% of the population. The danger arises when they find an authoritarian leader. They fit together like lock and key.
I knew business as usual would never work with him from day 1. Dem leadership should be on podcasts and shows introducing articles of impeachment every day, explaining why. They need to get loud and obnoxious. Like the gop has been. Our arguments are actually warranted.
Aggressive centrism is NOT picking a woke candidate, a woke VP, and not taking a single stand against any extreme progressive position that was causing her to haemorrhage votes through the attack ads being run by the GOP.
There's enormous demand among Democratic voters to compromise with Republicans. That feeling is not mutual at all. White Democrats in particular are the voters who are most inclined to compromise. Black Democrats are overwhelmingly not interested in compromise with Republicans.
Democrats who have ties to Republicans do not see Republicans as evil. These are their relatives, friends & neighbors. Such Democrats are constantly shocked by each new GOP low. This group of Democrats is a huge weakness in the Democratic Party as Republicans strive to return the US to #MAGA
I think the "earnest libs" he's talking about are mostly called progressives or leftists. Standard libs are trying to figure out how to reach across the aisle and make compromised with the Nazis.
Back in the days of the Iraq War, 'libs' meant something different, and the ones that opposed the Iraq War were called the radical leftists. Meanwhile, disastrous Dems like Clinton and Biden voted for the war. His main sentiment is correct here: the left was always right.
Dear God! If they only had a brain, weren't cowardly, and more than hay stiffening their spines! Too long on the easy road. Give them gas, indigestion & explosive incontinence. Please send something better.
Most of my friends are pretty hardcore leftists. You would have been a stark outlier among that group in 2015-2016.
It was a lot of “Trump’s a racist prick but Clinton voted for the AUMF, so idgaf America deserves what it gets” and I’m sorry but I do not consider that to be anti-Trump behavior.
Please, God, work your magic to prevent demons from committing further transgressions against our land. We pray for your just intervention to right what is wrong. Come on, Big Guy, give us an eternal break. Hugs & kisses from your peeps in Blue America 💙
💯 litergically correct. The only thing power mad morons understand is greater power. Our only job right now is to catch voting morons in our arms (as they FO)and point their anger at the real cause of their pain. It’s fine to roll our eyes that we have to do it.
He only appeals to people who fall for the grift - a la The Apprentice & WWE, and his gross ass merch.
The idea he’s been successful at anything has got to be quashed at every turn. We need to fight this right now without the expectation logic will prevail. It won’t.
Just for yux: the saudi govt bankrolled 9/11 (28pages.org); Bush knew (New York Post!); Bin Laden was surprised the towers came down (said his engineering training told him the upper stories would collapse, but); Bush-Cheney parlayed spectacle into everything they could; and Obama normalized it all.
oh I don't think you get it...I mean congress...he already has a cabinet ones he can fire and replace at any time...Bondi Patel and Kennedy are all able to be lost...he doesn't care...he will govern through EO's...and the saps won't know the difference...the saps being congress
I am talking about the members of congress...they are no longer needed...and do you know what happens when a member of congress is no longer needed or better yet finds out they are no longer needed....really bad news for the ones who made them that way...he could care less for his base
MAGAts can kiss my big liberal cringe lame ass. I’m not trying to burn the country down. MAGAts FEAR black people and women SO MUCH, they will ruin their country. Well fuck you MAGAts. My lame ass isn’t giving up. Your HATE is actually FEAR and that’s LAME and CRINGE.
Where were all these “libs” when democrats committed genocide for 15 months??? Y’all are cringe because you’re hypocrites. You can’t claim morality for not supporting the Iraq war and then stay silent while we fund war crimes
It was a genuine and I would say insurmountable problem that all of that sentiment was coralled into Russia paranoia and legal or procedural initiatives that, despite breathless coverage in mainstream news outlets, only succeeded in draining any political urgency from the opposition.
There is no reward for being right too far ahead of conventional wisdom.
"She's such a Cassandra" is used to describe an annoying spoilsport who should be ignored, and it's been thousands of years since we learned she was right about that army hiding inside the Trojan Horse.
Any form of changing a person's name is juvenile and turns me off of whatever that person is saying, no matter how much I agree. I know it's not significant, but why do it? Trump doesn't give a shit.
Libs lecture. The message is usually good and right but the way it's communicated is often horrible. trump communicates like a third grader. His use of word salad allows the listener to hear what they want. Dems need a concise, creative, ubiquitous comm plan. Or maybe just a plan. It's unclear.
It would be more comparable if the liberals then had cheered on dysfunction that led to Bush being re-elected. Howard Dean was never anything close to Bernie Sanders
I know us liberals, just want to be left alone, not have to worry about being shot in the streets by untrained gunman, we want to be able to love who we want to love. We want to be whoever the hell we want to be in a land of the free. Peace is just a horrible thing. Us liberals are really bad.
Its the prevalant undercurrent in gaming platform chat rooms, every time i get out of a 20 in game, theres a MANIFESTO being debated, Also say, Fortnite, weaker guns or equip referred to as Lib---, They are PREFORMING associations, before kids TAKE Civics,
(right after we reinstate it)
Hey Chris if you want to actually accomplish something you could pressure all those people you know in the media and Democratic Party to organize a general strike or something.
But that would be bad for business, wouldn't it?
I don’t know. I’m really finding it quite rewarding to be as insufferably leftist in every social interaction I have. We need to be aggressive agitators to combat maga sociopaths. In a twee kinda way of course.
Agreed. The leftist mentality of dismissing harm reduction as a component maintaining the status quo is exactly what drove me away from those online spaces. People have an immediate need for safety, and flies are more attracted to honey than vinegar.
That’s neat and all, but just in 😂case you missed it. An authoritarian sociopath won the election. He seeks to do great harm to many people and is succeeding thus far. If would prefer a more analytical gentile opposition to his cruelty, dehumanization and hate, I wish you all the best.
You are, of course, free to freak out and run screaming through the streets, if that's what you prefer. But it will accomplish absolutely nothing but warm the cockles of Trumpster hearts.
Harm reduction is a helpful way of putting it. I support harm reduction in regards to fucking fentanyl but would decry it elsewhere? No. I think the belief maga can be reasoned with is silly as hell, but I’m not mad at anyone who got off their butt and voted
Under Dems, LGBT rights were expanded, gay marriage became the law of the land, Americans became 2x as rich as Europeans, and life was *really* good for about 80% of the population.
Oh, we've definitely made progress. I'm using the term in the sense that it's less harmful to let people decide with their doctors whether a given treatment plan is valid, de-stigmatizing drug use as a health rather than criminal issue, ya know, issues republicans oppose but dems claim to support.
FUCK THE LIBS. They are why we are losing. If they are truly liberal, when they are faced with the choice of true left vs fascism, they will fall in line. Catering to them is why we are here!!!!!
More constructively directed to those who may have a conscience. Conservatives have made no secret about who they are. Libs gave us Clinton, Biden, then Harris/Cheney. Libs had their chance and FAILED. What American Libs think is center is right wing, ENOUGH. Lets move left, back to the center!
It still blows my mind things like universal healthcare are considered leftist. These are things that are pure center policies yet somehow they are seen as far left lunatic ideas despite being normal in most fist world countries. After decades in this fight it all almost feels hopeless. I'm tired!
It’s generally leftist who are way out ahead on this stuff while libs roll their eyes and are ‘the adults in the room.’ Then when you finally get onboard it has to be on your terms, led by people obviously unequipped to deal with the reality of the situation. It’s literally why we’re here again.
100% and it's not like it's something that requires arcane political knowledge, there are actual left wing movements that are more popular with the public than the libs.
Leftists need to treat liberals as the enemy. They can join up, as recruits, they are unelectable and seemingly useless
Don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. It’s Dems that ran alongside Liz Cheney and tried courting ring wing psychopaths while alienating giant swaths of their base. Learn how politics fucking work.
Had they said "hell naw" to Liz and went further left than AOC we wouldn't be in this position. The Gaza genocide was a more important issue than the DNC thought(like leftists told the libs😒)
Matthew 7:6
🐶 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
I don’t like being correct on these things! I wish my warnings really were overblown and the liberals were able to keep everything under control! But then i am continually proven correct! I hate it!
Talk show hosts speaking out is great but the democrats need to have some one more people in the public speaking out as to how bad things are and offering a different and better plan. In the public in stadiums and public venues loudly.
There is something about people who are comfortable with being openly vulnerable about their emotions that makes people uncomfortable. I've noticed it in myself. We need that kind of empathy and passion now more than ever but our culture doesn't see that as a strength but being a "pussy".
I walked into the office last week and happened to see the news on and it was an empty podium. Again. 2015 all over. Just a major news outlet slobbering for more trash instead of informing the electorate
Are you going to cover the fucking coup or post vomit-worthy Livejournal-quality garbage and call yourself an adult journalist and write, and I quote, "the earnest libs" and precede that with "the Iraq war".
A foreign agent just invaded a federal building and has everybody's SSN.
@chrislhayes.bsky.social is worried about the war in Iraq right now. Maybe he should quit his job for being a phony and not calling fascism what it is now that it's actually happening. And let's all just screenshot his courage yeah?
Chris Hayes, Fake Knight of the 4th Estate, Giant Dildo
Yeah, lots of us are pissed off but I don’t think we should waste our energy raging at Hayes. Place your gaze where it needs to be. There is going to be a lot of work ahead of us.
Yeah. Switch up your media diet. I was saying to someone else that black-owned media is pretty good. I like this guy Roland Martin. Native Pod is good. It’s black history month. Try it.
Yeah. I would stop watching him then if it enrages you so. Black-owned media is pretty good. Roland Martin doesn’t mix words. You might want to check that out. Native Land Podcast is another good one. Change your media diet for a bit.
Mentioning which US political faction was right about what was going to happen is a normal and important thing to post about in this situation. So future historians will know.
Fascinating how consistently Trump Imperialists are drawn to the sounds beep boop.
I suppose it is the anti -intellectual's contempt for foreign language knowledge. And a general contempt for precision of diction.
I ain’t taking the blame for these nazhis. They talk abt dems & libs being weak & all that. But, dems/ libs are strong as hell. Had to be considering the type of authoritarian bs we always push against. The progress we have is bc libs are indeed strong. It just sucks you have to keep fighting.
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Most of them, are not liberally inclined.
That said, those same people stayed home and made their protest vote heard.
Now, here we are.
Also, I did vote. Early. Against Trump.
This is actually a great example of the frustration with the liberals, come to think of it.
The Democrat party may not be liberal, but the liberals are awfully supportive of Democrat party.
Or lies that they swallowed like sweet sweet candy?
The criminal, in fact, plainly told us his vision quest for a crashed economy and riots in the streets here, in 2014.
We ‘libs’ aren’t hypnotized. We are observant, clearheaded, and rightly vigilant.
It's just going to annoy others who are earnestly there trying to turn their lives around.
Biden kept most of the measures implemented by Trump and added a few more, like all the tariffs.
Harris never distanced herself from that or from the horrors the US is subsidising
Were the airline crashes designed to…divert attention?
How many Luigi Mangiones do you want to see in the wine-mom set?
What would you like old hippy grandmothers to do? Storm Congress & shit on Mike Johnson’s desk?
https://youtube.com/shorts/nhgOK2wUi0E?si=cEZzRzPfai2zrDl9
https://captimes.com/opinion/paul-fanlund/opinion-why-donald-trump-s-supporters-tolerate-his-lies/article_018d1de1-ae0b-5f06-8922-852b83142a1e.html
Stop gaslighting us. This was very very recent history
Trump is installing right-wing propaganda outlets — just like Hitler did.
He wants media and federal agencies centralized under his authority and control.
#NaziDictator
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/pentagon-boots-nbc-npr-nyt-and-politico-from-offices-to-be-replaced-by-breitbart-and-one-america-news/
Freedom of the press and all
💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
And as for how people are viewed, that’s some textbook definition of Opposite Day happening.
There’s nothing more “cringe” than MAGAs.
It’s almost funny, but it’s actually tragic to see people so at odds with facts and truth, and following the likes of tr*mp.
There's nothing cringe about pointing out the country is run by a fascist.
Notice how that wasn't an issue in Trump 1.0? Bc there were no rich People pouring money to support rank & file corruption.
I remember when the earnest liberals in the Democratic party supported the Iraq war. I see them not resisting fascism.
Not aesthetic. Merit based.
We are heading for another Kent State, only this time the media won't cover it.
I got my international news from NPR and I knew better. Still waiting on accountability.
You're dismissing the fact that liberals use to be anti war.
Now..they embrace war.
Champion it.
Endorse, campaign and protest for it.
You went from democrats...and turned into liberals.
It's not rhe same thing.
History is Prologue
But now, we are in the position of needing to let it play out. This country is going to get a lot worse before it gets better and that's just the truth.
So, just to be clear about what I mean, 20 Democrats went along with deporting immigrants for misdemeanors, so now it was a bipartisan decision.
They were right then and they're right now.
LITERALLY HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE YOU? THINK ABOUT IT AND ANSWER EARNESTLY
Apologize.
If a news program is an hour long & he takes up 50 minutes of it, there's hardly any time left for dems to get a word in!
I'm sure mainstream media deserves most of the blame, but they must get the impression that people are interested in that one subject that no one can seem to stop talking about.
Centrists/Moderates that are also bigots are why Kamala lost.
In no state was Trump’s margin of victory due to leftists not voting, or voting 3rd party.
this is a very deep and long conversation for people doing psychedelics, this transcends politics..
It's about male dominance, strongman mentality, misogyny,
and infects Democrats as well as Republicans,
annnd it starts in the home, with domestic abuse, long before it becomes societal 😎
Those are significant factors in what makes people reject empathetic values.
like yea this is probably a bit much
If anybody dared to point out that Trump would increase human suffering *everywhere*—that person got yelled at and called a “shit lib”, among other things.
I mean, they could at least be smarter than the Right
How does it make sense to generalise out from your personal experience on here, to large groups of people, as you've done repeatedly in your posts?
I was here the whole time, and I follow a LOT of folks, who run the continuum of leftism. The conversations about voting went on for months. They were complex and nuanced, and changed in tone when Biden belatedly stood down.
People are complaining that Democrats *who were elected* are doing almost nothing to impede Trump’s unlawful power grab, or even be sand in the gears.
To try and blame the loss of the election on the discussions occurring on what was still a relatively small website, does nothing to change where y'all are at now.
Check out their latest move because they know which party has been cited more often for child ab*se. (see @antifaoperative.bsky.social )
https://bsky.app/profile/knittingknots.bsky.social/post/3lh3caajgec2y
That was very stupid.
I appreciate what you are doing, keep up the good fight!
https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/sign-the-petition-impeach-president-trump?source=direct_link&
We are heading back to Jim Crow/Apartheid America and you just can’t compromise with anyone who thinks that’s okay.
It was a lot of “Trump’s a racist prick but Clinton voted for the AUMF, so idgaf America deserves what it gets” and I’m sorry but I do not consider that to be anti-Trump behavior.
The idea he’s been successful at anything has got to be quashed at every turn. We need to fight this right now without the expectation logic will prevail. It won’t.
But I was still right.
The vast majority just repeated WH talking points.
These days all left-leaning journalists claim they opposed the invasion.
Thank goodness that the Internet allows us to check.
I can't remember.
But history teaches us that history remembers.
And all of those journalists are going to be laughed at, condescendingly, for being such credulous tools, for the rest of time.
Like the people who thought the Treaty of Versailles would stop all future wars.
Because they were trying to hold onto their jobs/power.
My comment was directed to the GOP's capitulation over the last 8 years.
Thus, setting up the current takeover.
"She's such a Cassandra" is used to describe an annoying spoilsport who should be ignored, and it's been thousands of years since we learned she was right about that army hiding inside the Trojan Horse.
it’s like when someone says “let’s go brandon” then looks smug and expects praise for being clever
we’ve got more important shit to do and better jokes to make
About 20 years ago I was Republican and I will tell you that it's a lot more fun than dealing with the party that loves to eat their own.
What I am saying is to stop picking people apart for the tiniest of things. Stop doing the job of the GOP.
Former party
*proceeds to be insufferable*
But all the rest - tRump, Drumpf, and especially any of the “First Lady Musk” or Elonia shit needs to never be spoken or written again.
However, everything he’s done in public life (the last 40 years) has shown him to be extremely thin-skinned and needy.
(right after we reinstate it)
But that would be bad for business, wouldn't it?
Even now that shit hit the fan it’s somehow Dems fault because reasons?
No one is stopping you from organizing and taking action (from outside or inside!)
Under Dems, LGBT rights were expanded, gay marriage became the law of the land, Americans became 2x as rich as Europeans, and life was *really* good for about 80% of the population.
Progress was made! It was working!
Leftists need to treat liberals as the enemy. They can join up, as recruits, they are unelectable and seemingly useless
🐶 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
They been had, they been took, they been hoodwinked, bamboozled, led astray, run amok. This is what he does.
Chris Hayes, TV Man Upset About Fascism Until Very Recently
When Trump says "Fake News", he's fucking right.
I walked into the office last week and happened to see the news on and it was an empty podium. Again. 2015 all over. Just a major news outlet slobbering for more trash instead of informing the electorate
You have lost your way
A foreign agent just invaded a federal building and has everybody's SSN.
Chris Hayes, Fake Knight of the 4th Estate, Giant Dildo
He preaches democracy and honest values. Every Day.
He controls the account and his influence - yet his job as a journalist is to inform and potentially kill.
It's not even two weeks. Fascism is here. RIGHT NOW.
Fucking report it.
I suppose it is the anti -intellectual's contempt for foreign language knowledge. And a general contempt for precision of diction.