He also relentlessly promotes vitamin supplements and "nutra-ceuticals," both of which are massive industries and major corporate lobbyists. He is not anti-pharma or anti-corporate in any meaningful sense.
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Something something reactionary kneejerk pushback on poorly understood things to… feel powerful/have control? Idk I’m not a psychologist. But I’ve seen a lot of this and that’s what it seems to be.
The thing about the stuff he promotes is that they don't have to have substantiated claims. Their producers can just claim vague benefits without enduring the scrutiny actual food and medical products get.
One of the quotes to this made me wonder if you've done any episodes on the supplement industry. When I was getting into gym, it seemed really absurd to me that there are multiple chain stores (GNC, Nutrishop, etc.) allowed to sell nothing but non-FDA regulated snake oil.
There's a bizarre and ongoing mainstream effort to launder RFK Jr into someone who just wants to get Americans eating nutritious food and exercising again but that is not evidenced anywhere in his public statements or career in public life.
"Food safety" and "nutrition" are clearly way, way down the list of the things his non-profit - Children's Health Defense - focused on. Well, behind anti-vaxx stuff, and behing weird conspiracy theorizing about microcips, etc.
A man willing to eat roadkill or "pretend" 🙄 (highly doubtful) to eat a dog, chews nicotine gum is not someone you should believe when it comes to your best health interest.
I remember reading women’s magazines (not the highest level of critical theory in literature!) criticizing the fuck outta him in interviews because of his inconsistent environmental policies like anti-offshore wind because it would wreck the Kennedy compound’s ocean views.
His partnership with Zen Honeycutt is some wild shit as well. I love that these “radical progressives” are now making a home in the extremist right and getting air time. These are very wild times.
He likes to “do science”. The story about the whale head says it all (he behaved just as my 4 year old would have, “take it home to study” which makes sense bcs nobody ever told this man no in his whole damn life. You end up with an adult with a 4 year old inside)
A lot of media coverage seems to be taking the fact that Trump won the popular vote and therefore his positions and those of his cabinet have merit, and trying to work backwards from there no matter how specious the reasoning.
Let’s be fair. He just cares about Americans not poisoning their bodies.
Ok, well except for the Zyn packets.
And the steroids.
And the submissive eating of McDonald’s.
Oh yeah, and the heroin.
But besides that, it makes total sense!
If anything, honestly, he seems to have embraced eating vegetables etc *more* bc MAGA people got ahead of him and assumed that’s what he was talking about.
Part of the overall media effort to normalize every part of trump and his upcoming shitshow.
The ways they will try to make his atrocities seem reasonable over the next few years will make Stalin & Goebbels uncomfortable.
I brought up RFKJr going after cereal companies to swerve a convo away from Trump because he was the only person I could think of anything positive to say about, & even the Trumpees looked at me like I was crazy.
I think the most insightful thing I read on RFK Jr. was an article talking to his friends and acquaintances about how he’s just an ambitious guy that is basically willing to do anything to gain political power.
This is exactly why I canceled my STAT News subscription. I can't stand to see the mental gymnastics in trying to make him look like an acceptable choice to lead public health.
And proudly unregulated by the FDA or any other agency. Just gelatin capsules full of whatever is lying around — powdered keratin, sawdust, baby teeth.
The cynical part of me feels they are happy to see the chaos he'll unleash because it will keep us fighting among each other. And they're arrogant enough to believe they'll remain insulated.
Exactly, he had dedicated his entire adult life to discrediting the primary agency that regulates big pharma! Even on climate change, the one left-wing idea he has ever promoted, he's against regulating carbon emissions.
I absolutely despise most "big pharma" shit because the real problem is that patent holders/insurers etc conspire to keep important pharmaceuticals *out* of people's hands, not that the pharmaceuticals are bad and need to be replaced by crank bullshit.
He's not anti-government, either, in any coherent way. Mostly he's just pro-"Look At Me!"
Early in his career he got attention by doing some worthwhile things, but apparently it wasn't enough, and it died down after a while, anyway. Then he found quackery, and new vistas opened up before him.
I guess for the next 4 years, we'd all best get exercise, eat well-balanced diet, get lots of sleep, etc.
The RFK, Jr department is not going to be helpful.
Wrong! My doctor has specifically told me to avoid ALL sunshine, smart guy! His name is Dr. Acula and you should look into him. (and yes I fully ripped this off from Mitch Hedberg)
Nobody's suppressing chelation for people actually exposed to actual toxic metals, or ivermectin for people with actual parasites! There's already studies into psychedelics! You know all the "oh noes, cough syrup abuse" ads? There's a FDA approved combination pill that's Wellbutrin and DXM!
DXM/Bupropion only works if you're taking both and you're taking DXM at regular dose. I find 7.5 mg every 1hr20min works very well for me. Fast-acting antidepressive effect without noticeable side effects. But if you miss a dose you may have a deeper depression and want to unalive yourself.
And god help you if you're trying to get high. I'm not anti psychedelics but it's not going to get you out of depression. Although many people's depression is secondary so it might work? But not in an antidepressant way. I heard sometimes it makes you review your past and it helps with trauma.
"Suppressing peptides" refers to the use of human growth hormone and human chorionic gonadotropin for muscle-building, fat loss, supposed anti-aging benefits and probably a bunch of other claims I'm not thinking of. The medical consensus is that you shouldn't do that, for damn good reasons.
Clean foods? Is chlorine rinsed animal carcass not clean enough for him?
Yet raw milk is the opposite of clean - as it definitely contains pus and I also read recently viable H5N1 virus (up to 5 days from production when chilled).
He appears to be deranged in some way or other.
He left out that he wants every American born so rich they can eat right, lay-about, get good health care and be an asshole to anyone they're close to, in the sunshine (we're banning big cloud).
I enjoy that the end of this rant includes "preserve your records", which are exactly the sort of thing he doesn't seem to trust in the least? Maybe it's just "preserve your records so I can later prove them wrong!"? I'm very confused...
So let’s ask RFK Jr. to explain to us how many millions of dollars was spent on the 63 million doses of hydroxychloroquine that TRump bought from his big donors, stockpiled, and never used? When do those expire?
AND you can patent psychedelics in a concentrated formulation; cannabinoids are technically classified as psychedelics and we've had Marinol for years.
Here’s the problem - it’s true that the government makes studying psychedelics hard (same with cannabis). The government also allows a ton of shit in our food that Europe/Canada have banned successfully. So there’s a shred of truth in his bullshit.
I don’t support him or his ideas in any way. But we do have to deal with the fact that there are things the FDA/Congress have been unable/unwilling to regulate that should be. And things they regulate that shouldn’t be. Not addressing that stuff allowed the rise of RFK Jr.
This is how conspiracists gain a foothold, by everyone focusing on the tiny shreds of truth in their theories rather than the lies. Even on issues where he is vaguely correct, he has no ability to take in information or solve complex problems.
I totally agree with you! He’s full of shit and dumb as rocks. But those grains of truth are important and because our government doesn’t deal with them, that is what allows these conspiracies to take hold. We are gaslit regularly about the truth so people lose faith.
He’s talking about stem cells. They get those from abortive remains. How will that square up with the rest of Trump’s Cabinet & staunch pro birth Republicans who vehemently oppose abortion for any reason?
His complete lack of grip on what the FDA does, doesn't and can't regulate (exercise?? sunshine????) says it all. Along with his non-understanding of what can and can't be patented.
Hyperbaric therapy is even covered by Medicare and Medicaid for certain conditions! Programs that ultimately fall under the umbrella of the department he wants to run!
don't we regularly use hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin for things there is evidence they work on? Like malaria and parasites? That's why we tried them against covid because they were readily accessible?
The “preserve your records” part gets me. Like somewhere deep down he knows he may need them to pull a cure out of their records for him when his plan goes south. *just in case*
There’s a thing in wellness that sunscreen is a conspiracy to make you sick and that the sun doesn’t cause cancer. Some of them even advocate staring at the sun to *improve* your vision
Insulin is a phucking peptide and all the gop has tried to do is prevent a cap on its cost. Phuck this clown. Oh..and the testosterone replacement he gulps down? Also an amino acid peptide that he has no trouble getting
The Network media have recognised that the senate is about to approve 𝘢𝘭𝘭 of #Trump 's nominees - RFK, Patel, Gabbard, Hegseth - and the new regime will reign hell upon anyone that criticises them, so they are adjusting themselves to their new role as cheerleaders of the regime.
Yeah, the way they suck is mostly that they charge way too much money, keep trying to be monopolies and are abandoning some less profitable lines of research. The stuff they actually make is good.
Being a liar and conspiracist are qualifications as far as this regime is concerned. Anybody who isn't some permutation of that is not being considered for a role in the new U.S. order. Being despicable is de rigeur.
His stuff against the polio vaccine is bizarre given how clearly it was a public good. This whole administration is pushing policies that will economically disadvantage people while simultaneously cutting services to the econ disadvantaged with the exception of prisons and asylums.
From person experience, I know that some in the medical community are completely unaware of RFK Jr. stances regarding vaccines and infectious disease research. It’s going to be a nightmare when they wake up to the reality.
Conspiratorial obsession over supplements, vaccines, H2O filtration (fluoride) is all part of the same long con. Dr Oz is in on it too. Some people scare easily & scared people make easy marks. So much to dislike it's hard to even pin to one inconsistency. MSM continues to sanewash this nonsense.
that said, I agree with RFK on one thing and one thing only -- the official narrative on RFK Sr assassination is riddled with inconsistencies and much like his uncle, notable holes exist in single shooter theory.
And Sarah Palin said, “Stop telling us what to put into our bodies.” This was when Michell Obama announced the White House garden and her invitation to students in area schools to help out.
I get my medication from the VA. I don't mind saying its zoloft and prep and I have to worry about access to that, maybe its a long shot, I don't know what kind of control he could get over VA healthcare specifically but the fact he is an AIDs denier and think's SSRIs are nefarious is worrying.
He’s going to need to provide a metric fuckton of monetary help to families to be able to afford his nutritious food. Economically challenged people don’t eat shitty food because it’s their choice. It’s cheaper. #millionairemeals #rfjjr
There is a broad effort by these right wing media to normalize/sanewash what is coming. X, CNN, Fox, LA Times, Times, NY Times, Washpo, Real Clear, Sinclair, Gannet....
That's the point right? It seems like a totally reasonable thing and a good idea when idk what the current average amounts of sugar and corn syrup even is in school lunches. Then bam, it's a barrage of the most unhinged nonsense. Ravings, raw, unfiltered, and unpasteurized
Yeah, not a fan of RFK in any way but that only got in our food supply due to tariffs. Problem is we have an incoming President who is more likely to raise sugar tariffs over lifting them.
I got talked into the "do not catastrophize in advance, the worst case scenario is not baked in" line of thinking right after the election, but the amount of people in both the media and elected office who are seemingly at least RFK-curious is fucking me up pretty badly, not gonna lie
What good stuff??? Just admit y'all got suckered. Michelle Obama just wanted healthy food and we all remember how that went over with Republicans. 🤦🏻♀️
The "good stuff" from RFK can be had with a visit to a dietitian and a gym membership.
Hell, even your primary care doc can tell you to lose weight, eat healthy, and exercise!
The notion that nobody in the system promotes healthy living is a straight up lie!
If there are normal people who liked RFK, why TF would you not want to explain to them how RFK is crazy in a way that would cause them to shift support to Democrats?
Listen to RFK, eat healthy! 😀
But not about vaccines, that's crazy 😠
But you should exercise like he says!😀
Don't drink raw milk though he's crazy again😠
It's incoherent, and a waste of very limited time & resources
how about we not give the brain worm guy any legitimacy? I dont care about his stance on food dyes and cancer. The fact that he is part of the Disinformation Dozen disqualifies him from having a voice on anything health related.
I always forget this, too! Is it my cousin with the withered arm from when her mom got measles while pregnant with her,or my cousin who went from HS quarterback to kid in the wheelchair when he got polio? So confusing!
why would someone who wants to vote for rfk vote for harris instead, even if she did what you’re saying? that’s a very small demographic of people and it was probably much more effective to denounce him completely
They didn't want healthy food. They wanted there to be a secret Jewish cabal intentionally making their food unhealthy. Conspiracy theorists aren't looking to make their lives better, they're looking for an enemy to blame their crappy lives on. And not the real enemy - rich corporate white dudes.
This is almost a version of "Hitler was also a painter who loved dogs".
Just because RFK gets one thing right about maybe reducing unnecessary ingredients in mass produced and processed foods does NOT absolve him of the vastly greater damage he's done promoting quackery and anti-science idiocy.
And while RFKjr is against High-Fructose Corn Syrup,
it's prevalence in soda is largely because of US sugar tariffs,
something that Diet Coke drinking Trump doesn't notice.
(It's also from corn subsidies and big agribusiness, of course.)
His kind of "healthy food" got a parasite inside his brain, he's just another white supremacist loon with weird ideas about health that should be dismissed out of hand and why are you caping for him
You cannot convince me that Trump appealed to a relevant RFK voter population who just want healthy food because I didn't hear wailing when this picture came out.
OMG! Do you understand how elections work? It is the job of candidates to explain to voters why political opponents are crazy in order to gain their votes.
You blow him off because he’s crazy and dangerous. His views aren’t about healthy food. And when Dems have tried—very recently—to talk about healthy food, it’s been received as authoritarian and anti-liberty.
This is the most insane statement that has ever been made, and these are the same Nazi scum who reviled Michelle Obama for trying to get more vegetables into school lunches.
It’s only allowed when it’s a capitalism, and by “health food” they mean “massively overpriced and unregulated protein supplements made from deer hooves, E. coli laced iceberg lettuce, and listeria juice.”
one of Michelle Obama’s platforms as flotus was healthier school lunches and the white wing lost its goddamn mind. research shows a correlation between healthier food and higher test scores, but guess who got rid of it to return cheap, processed shit to kids’ bellies?
I was thinking about this. It was treated like some snowflake waste of money thing, because lettuce is for sissies or whatever. Walz gave all kids free lunch. It’s not about a policy around health.
This is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard. He's DISCUSSING GETTING RID OF POLIO VACCINE FOR CHILDREN. HE'S DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR 80+ DEATHS. HE THINKS VACCINES CAUSE AUTISM. Why WOULD she engage with him??? Do you have anything in your cranial cavity????? JFC.
A healthy food guy isn't some unicorn. If you're willing to support the guy with a death count in Samoa because he also likes healthy food, healthy food is not really your priority.
Um, that is exactly the point that went over your head.
It would have been trivially easy for Harris to explain that there was a candidate who supported healthy-food policies but didn’t dump dead bear cubs in parks or cut off animal heads.
She did, in fact. Maybe you missed it because the press didn't cover it as much as they covered how she "snubbed" him. But she said, repeatedly that he was a dangerous conspiracy theorist and identified some of his most dangerous ideas. https://x.com/KamalaHarris/status/1851827928679535079
But she was sloppy and didn’t clearly distinguish between the dangerous conspiracy stuff and the reasonable stuff. So people who liked the reasonable stuff assumed that Harris did not support those policies.
Blowing off RFK is just saying a candidate isnt interested in the “20+ preventable diseases that have managed to somehow seize control of a human body” demographic
Not only am I blowing him off entirely, I wish someone would have finally ended the legacy of his miserable evil family and blown his head off entirely.
To the extent that she might address those issues, she would talk to actual experts in the real natural healthcare industry, organic food movement.
Not to some Johnny come lately Crack-Pot grifter.
No, her people actively ignored regenerative agriculture and natural health unless it was Syngenta and Cargill’s climate smart bs. We pleaded with the white house. They said “fill out a web form”.
What are you referring to?
I agree there's been too much leaning on climate, which is only part of the issue.
My impression is that she focused on helping small farmers and unions. Getting nutritious food into underserved communities.
Wait, do you actually believe that Harris got 100% of the votes of non-anti-vaxxers who are concerned about pesticides, sustainable farming, and regulatory capture of USDA by agricultural corporations? Literally all of them?
Well, obviously those people’s interests are served best by massive deregulation of food and environmental safety and “if you give us enough money we’ll approve everything “
Most people who celebrate RFK Jr and his misinformation do not have training in medicine and science and regard TikTok influencers as being a reputable source of information.
RFK Jr's followers prefer vibes and personal beliefs over facts and evidence.
RFK thinks healthy food is the stomach cancer of a diet that Liver King eats. There is no positive part of his ideas. Guy thinks vaccines are more dangerous than a nuke, chemicals in the water are turning kids trans, and that covid is a Jewish superweapon. That's what you support, dumbshit.
First, "healthy food" has a different definition for them.
Second, he was looking for a cabinet position. That man shouldn't be in charge of anything. He was given the key to the world, and he has screwed up in epic fashion. He's a washed up loser.
I'm telling y'all. KUNG POW PENIS. Take it from Tumblr. Stop engaging. Just spell out “KUNG POW PENIS” one letter at a time. Collaborative dunking at its finest.
O bullshit. Your little megalomaniac got his feefee hurt and ran to daddy Trump for validation. He sucks and everyone who capes for him sucks. There is no excuse
The sheer nonsense of RFK and his agenda aside,
there is ZERO logic to embracing the platform of a candidate that almost nobody voted for.
ALL of RFK AND Jill Stein voters combined would only amount to 1% of the popular vote and not enough for Harris to win.
What "good stuff" is RFK that's not already widely accepted and promoted by broad edical and scientific consensus, that makes up for the turd-sandwich of vaccine denialism and woowoo wacakdooism that he comes wrapped in?
If Harris said "eat more beans and less bacon," you think RFKs pudding-brained supporters would have lined up behind her? You think the press wouldn't have destroyed her for that?
People think that food dyes and emulsifiers are what's making their food unhealthy. Like, yes, processed foods are unhealthy because they are high in fat and simple carbs and low in fiber, not because they have xathan gum and red40.
RFK is quite literally a worst person who believes more dangerous stuff than Trump. Anyone who pays him or his lunatic supporters literally any attention aside from scorn would not get my vote. I legit don’t care who the opponent is
what is the "good stuff"? reducing dietary dependence on processed foods? because you might be surprised to learn there are already plenty of people at the FDA on board with that, and the forces working against them don't go away because brainworm guy takes the helm
No one is forcing anyone to eat cheez-its and fruitloops. People don't need RFK Jrs. help to choose not to eat those.
People eat what tastes good. RFK Jr. can't do a thing about that.
Except RFK isn’t bringing any good stuff, given any claims he makes stating otherwise are very clearly lies given they fly right alongside the most braindead health misinformation whatsoever
Also there’s the fact every right winger still has a raging hate boner for Michelle Obama due to in no small part the fact she suggested kids eat more than processed garbage.
Any voter who concluded Harris didn’t care about healthy food because she didn’t appear with RFK Jr. or endorse his particular idea of what healthy food is -if any such voter exists- was choosing to make up rather than look up information.
This is ironically emblematic of the real issue which is low info voters SWIMMING in right wing propaganda.
Like… how would you even unpack a conversation with someone who says “I voted for Trump because I want healthy food”? What does that even mean? What do they believe it means?
It was the job of the Democratic Party to explain to people who were attracted to RFK based upon his support for healthy food WHY it was utterly irrational to support Trump. Democrats failed to do that.
I don't care if YOU think those people are silly. Part of campaigning is winning voters over.
This assumes this is even a large constituency or had any meaning whatsoever. The vast majority of RFK voters are obviously anti-vaxx dumbfucks and of the sliver that just want “healthy food”, a teeny weeny sliver of those people mean “fruits and veggies” not “guzzling infected raw milk”
Where were they supposed to take this message? His entire family begged people to disregard his nonsense. Low info voters aren’t getting the truth, and I blame that on right wing monopolization of information sources
How were they “won over” initially to the idea that RFK’s main thing is “healthy food”, and more to the point, that a Trump administration will take any meaningful action on that front?
Additionally, when did they start to give a shit about “healthy food”?
If you care enough about healthy food to vote on it taking five minutes to look into the issue and see what policies have been passed by who is common sense
I think trying to win those voters would have lost the Democrats a bunch of others, much like them trying to win "moderate" Republican voters lost them Black people and Latinxs.
RFK is worth blowing off completely, irrespective of what any of his voters “just” want. He has probably done more damage to American public health than any single American who isn’t an insurance executive or Joe Lieberman.
Why do you say that? Yes, he's a crank and an entitled nepobaby and will probably do great damage, but that doesn't mean he's actually dumb. Crankery is a different dimension from intelligence in my experience.
I don't think we have good evidence on this. I would agree that he's not as smart as he thinks he is, but that's still not dumb. I've listened to him (which is painful for multiple reasons) and again he is terrible, but I'm not sure this is why.
Let’s lead with that. And he is not the only stupid guy in this ridiculous group Trump, the Chief Moron, put together. In fact, I’ll let you know if I find a smart one.
The funniest part is the “eating nutritious food” stuff is just him regurgitating what the democrats have been saying for years while the republicans called it “woke communism”
We do not have to ALLOW this new admin to take office. Biden can perform actions illegal for anybody else since the SCOTUS immunity ruling. He needs to END this farce. Arrest them and their SCOTUS members, denationalize them, and exile them to Gitmo.
Supplements because they're not regulated whatsoever so they can put whatever they want it in there (like lead), say whatever they want about its effectiveness (no studies) and sell for huge profits because advertising works to people who are desperate and uninformed.
This is what makes me think he doesn't want to ban the polio vaccine. I think he wants to ban the current cheap one, and bring back a "better" one under patent for thousands per dose.
They're referring specifically to the oft-forgotten element of Wakefield's scheme where he rushed to patent a rival measles vaccine at the same he was pushing bunk science to discredit the widely-accepted MMR vaccine.
Also relevant that vaccines are not a moneymaker for pharmaceutical companies. So if they are no longer a standard of care they’re likely to simply stop making them.
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He is a liar and conspiracist.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/12/wellness-rfk-washington/680977/?gift=uHd9TBuVhwejevc84ZveZh834zhTUQQEfbW5W2vx-ug&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share
Then they vehemently ignore the reality of the situation.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/09/rfk-jr-s-buddy-explains-why-formerly-lefty-moms-are-flocking-to-trump/
this is not a hard story to tell, and not telling it is a choice
Don't forget "raving nutjob", too!
Ok, well except for the Zyn packets.
And the steroids.
And the submissive eating of McDonald’s.
Oh yeah, and the heroin.
But besides that, it makes total sense!
The ways they will try to make his atrocities seem reasonable over the next few years will make Stalin & Goebbels uncomfortable.
NPR: He is an environmental lawyer and vaccine skeptic.
Nutraceuticals are what made Alex Jones.
It’s rich people who will kill people trying to prove their brain worm conspiracies are true.
It’s narcissism.
He's anti-government, not anti-pharma.
https://bsky.app/profile/ryanmarino.bsky.social/post/3ld77yn7bfs2k
Early in his career he got attention by doing some worthwhile things, but apparently it wasn't enough, and it died down after a while, anyway. Then he found quackery, and new vistas opened up before him.
A) 'suppressed' because they are quack bullshit (raw milk, chelating compounds) or
B) not remotely 'suppressed'! Every health agency in the country already promotes vitamins and sunshine.
The RFK, Jr department is not going to be helpful.
“Suppressing peptides” what the fuck is he talking about
And yes, I am being sarcastic.
Can't wait to hear the outcry over this.
Yet raw milk is the opposite of clean - as it definitely contains pus and I also read recently viable H5N1 virus (up to 5 days from production when chilled).
He appears to be deranged in some way or other.
Chelation therapy is OK under certain circumstances. Being afflicted with vaccine paranoia isn't one of them.
I think that’s what he’s talking about
🤮🤮
And he planned on eating that bear cub, too. Bears carry trichinosis.
Also, pharmaceutical companies can suck AND their vaccines and treatments can work!
I know 2 people that became fitness instructors/health coaches and both were ecstatic at him getting picked.
I believe it's referred to as "kissing the ring" or "licking the boot"
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https://youtu.be/QMVpVvgOWtw?si=et5zE294KUmc9O0A
RFK: We should regulate HFCS in school lunches
People: Yeah that's probably a good idea actually
RFK: And make them drink raw milk
Normal People: Wait, no
RFK: And dont let them get vaccines!
Normal People: wtf is wrong with you plz stop
RFK: I killed a Rhino
By blowing RFK off entirely, it invited people to assume that Harris opposed RFK's entire agenda, even the good stuff.
This id all Kamala Harris’ fault
Got it
Idiot
Hell, even your primary care doc can tell you to lose weight, eat healthy, and exercise!
The notion that nobody in the system promotes healthy living is a straight up lie!
If there are normal people who liked RFK, why TF would you not want to explain to them how RFK is crazy in a way that would cause them to shift support to Democrats?
But not about vaccines, that's crazy 😠
But you should exercise like he says!😀
Don't drink raw milk though he's crazy again😠
It's incoherent, and a waste of very limited time & resources
I said that Harris should have tried to siphon off RFK voters. You don't accomplish that by telling his supporters that they should listen to him.
You accomplish it by telling his supporters that you are better than him. Harris didn't do this.
🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Just because RFK gets one thing right about maybe reducing unnecessary ingredients in mass produced and processed foods does NOT absolve him of the vastly greater damage he's done promoting quackery and anti-science idiocy.
Every sane person: WTF?!?
Snot Rocket: He's got a point.
130 now i guess
Seriously, I can't believe how many idiots thought that I was somehow defending RFK.
I’m sorry reality is just too hard for you
it's prevalence in soda is largely because of US sugar tariffs,
something that Diet Coke drinking Trump doesn't notice.
(It's also from corn subsidies and big agribusiness, of course.)
Blame Harris because RFK Jr is insane?
No. People who buy what he's selling have handed over their brains and ethics.
No good stuff. None
This is the most insane statement that has ever been made, and these are the same Nazi scum who reviled Michelle Obama for trying to get more vegetables into school lunches.
So, umm, no.
It's usually for things like sexual assault or corruption, but it applies to wanting kids to exercise as well.
And the mere existence of “healthy food” isn’t even a fucking political issue. There’s healthy food! Go eat it!
What these people mean by “healthy food” is dangerous garbage like raw milk.
Lolololol
Stop underestimating the lunacy
It would have been trivially easy for Harris to explain that there was a candidate who supported healthy-food policies but didn’t dump dead bear cubs in parks or cut off animal heads.
She didn’t make that argument.
https://x.com/KamalaHarris/status/1851827928679535079
But she was sloppy and didn’t clearly distinguish between the dangerous conspiracy stuff and the reasonable stuff. So people who liked the reasonable stuff assumed that Harris did not support those policies.
That was a fail.
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
You’re just wildly incorrect on every point there
Also seems weird to pin much on the 25th loser thing she did.
Not to some Johnny come lately Crack-Pot grifter.
I agree there's been too much leaning on climate, which is only part of the issue.
My impression is that she focused on helping small farmers and unions. Getting nutritious food into underserved communities.
😂😂😂
RFK Jr's followers prefer vibes and personal beliefs over facts and evidence.
How would Harris have won their votes?
Second, he was looking for a cabinet position. That man shouldn't be in charge of anything. He was given the key to the world, and he has screwed up in epic fashion. He's a washed up loser.
Truly blowing him off is something designated to female journalists of a certain age.
Totally wrong thinking
That idiot who makes shit up and then decides to believe it doesn’t deserve a public voice and he sure as hell doesn’t deserve power
Kamala was right to blow him off.
there is ZERO logic to embracing the platform of a candidate that almost nobody voted for.
ALL of RFK AND Jill Stein voters combined would only amount to 1% of the popular vote and not enough for Harris to win.
https://youtu.be/oGf5q_4Jxhs?si=JfM6EOR964BA3aGL
Be specific.
They think it’s a sweet sweet carcinogenic bacon bomb cooked in a gallon of tallow guzzled down with raw milk and endangered Whale juice
WOKE: A billion dollars in ads where Kamala stands in front of a whiteboard explaining why seed oils and soy are mostly fine in moderation
People eat what tastes good. RFK Jr. can't do a thing about that.
Next braindead delusion please
Like… how would you even unpack a conversation with someone who says “I voted for Trump because I want healthy food”? What does that even mean? What do they believe it means?
I don't care if YOU think those people are silly. Part of campaigning is winning voters over.
THE PEOPLE WERE TOLD "HAITIANS ARE HICKORY-SMOKING YOUR CAT" AND HEARD "WE WILL LOWER BACON PRICES".
THE PEOPLE are the problem, Mister Mayor. NOT the party.
Additionally, when did they start to give a shit about “healthy food”?
A.) Shuddered
B.) Pegged it as a bullshit frankenword