I don't think its actually balanced to have people who want everyone to be equal and people who want the power to be condensed into a small minority of people to both be equally empowered politically. That is ultimately what the left/right divide is about.
Didn't know I had a mental disorder since I find myself in the centre. But that's on a Norwegian political chart though, not the American. In Norway, our far-right party is somewhat similar to the Democrats on the charts.
I envy you guys so fucking much, you have no god damn idea how much it sucks. Imagine if your “left” party focused more on virtue signaling than they did advocation for basic human rights like health care. Two parties, one set of buyers.
Liberals uphold capitalism which is completely and utterly unsustainable it requires infinite exponential growth in extraction, consumption, destruction, exploitation and inflation to function which if your educated you know is physically impossible to sustain within a closed finite system
Nah, this is so misleading. Both extremes are just as wrong. In fact, the extremist actions from both are the main source of rejection from the center and neutral people.
Ironically, said actions from both extremes end contributing to the other side's narrative and hate speech, rather than helping.
The left AND the right have their things. It's the extremists and heads behind each side that are wrong. The US wasn't founded yesterday, and we, the rest of the world, have seen the hypocrisy of both left and right. It's natural to be tired of it and being more Centrist than siding with any party.
I am sure that not all the people that are inclined to the right are as twisted as the extremists running the WH currently. Generalizing all the people that doesn't align with one's political view is just contributing to more polarization. The US shouldn't be reduced to just "blue and red".
I honestly believe that not all people who voted for the right are as twisted as Trump or the extreme right. In fact, i'd say some are genuinely worried for their country. It's the extremism that ruins any ideology, not only the right, but also the left, and other movements
Thing is, the radical left is a reaction to the radical right. Just like feminism is a reaction to patriarchy. The source of the problem is always nazis and misogyny. Remove the source and its anti movement will vanish. Which makes your point about both sides as bad invalid.
We can use Feminism as an example here:
If the extreme right wing is Patriarchy, which means misogyny and Machism, the extreme left wing is hembrism and misandry.
And to pretend that misandry doesn't exists, or to justify the extremely hostile behavior from radical feminist is just as wrong.
If you agree that misandry has no structural disadvantages for men except hurting their feelings while misogyny oppresses and even kills women on every level in our society around the globe, I will agree with you.
Misandry means literally the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against men. And trying to dismiss callings to kill men just because of our gender as if they are just "hurting our feelings" is horrible.
Irrational and injustified hate is wrong, regardless of the target.
Sorry man, but if you "both sides bad" a situation where only one side actually rapes and kills the other side with tens of thousands victims every day, that's called sociopathy.
I'm out of here, but know that you are not a lost cause. You can learn and grow every day. All the best!
thanks for proving my point. I don't care what side of the US you support, but if you're not gonna respect other people's opinion, don't go out there demanding respect from the others.
Again. Thanks for proving my point.
You may think you look better by insulting, but in the eyes of the rest of the world, you're nothing but an hypocrite.
Centrists and neutral people are actually what allow the overton window to shift so far in any certain direction. When you're willing to find the middle ground when one side is pushing nazi shit then you're just as much the problem.
Nah, people from the middle ground is more tired of both extremists sides and their hypocrisy. Wanna make a difference in this cultural war? Shaking off the worst public figures & extremists parties that tarnished the original ideals would be a good start, instead of attacking central-neutral ppl.
The only wrong the far left does is just fight with each other over the most worthless semantics and cancel each other over it. The far-right would happily kill people if given such power.
The US wasn't founded by Trump. The rest of the world has dealt with your country's hypocrisy despite it being run by the left or the right.
Both extremes have done awful things, and if you actually want this nonsense cultural war to end, start pointing out the internal problems of your movements.
Perhaps not a genuine Left, indeed. I think i understand now that a chunk of politicians claiming to be leftists are nothing but hypocrites with more similarities to the right wing.
I guess I should recognize you might have the wrong idea. If you believe the modern democratic party is left, I do not support them. They've done terrible things. Though I do not consider most Democrats leftists.
In fact; they pretty much already do by depriving people of healthcare, attempting to deprive them of education, opportunity, and much more. It's just no one considers it murder because we're so desensitized to it.
Classic Ad hominen phallacy. Imagine having to go into my profile just to find other stuff to attack me personally, rather than my arguments. I may be a r18 artist, but you're creepy and a bigot. What's worse?
You're right they're not only just not nazis they're very cool communists who did nothing wrong ever and are always correct about everything and they also killed millions of nazis
Quantity-wise, there is no equivalence since there are way more people in the far right than far left. However, there is an equivalence in how harmful the ideologies are. If Antifa was a much larger movement, it'd be just as counterproductive with their acts of violence that affects us all.
Yes. I've also dealt with extreme activists from a "left" point of view from my country.
I'd say it is a perfect word, because that's the point where things stop making sense. For example, how does being misandric and wishing all men to die will aid Feminism? some extreme feminists think it does.
Everybody thinks that. "If they'd only listened to ME!" Yeah, you and 2 billion other people who think they have all the answers. But thank you for your service in support of the elderly.
LOL. i'm not from the US, but i'm tired of your country's hypocrisy from both left and right, and this nonsensical cultural war.
It's so easy to put me on the enemy's side and start attacking me, when all i'm trying to do is to point out you ALL have internal problems that require to be fixed asap.
Neither am i. And i'm not supporting neither the republicans nor the democrats.
Your claim about me being a "biased liberal" says more about your own bias than anything.
I feel like this is a tiny bit extra biased. I like to sit in the center for a reason... Both sides of the spectrum have bashed my family on the head and hurt it quite a lot.... I don't think that there's mental disorders just trauma for the center.....
As someone with mental disorders and brain damage, I’m not offended but I nor do the offended people speak for the collective of the people with mental disorders or dain bramage.
I've noticed that Bluesky ppl are quick to target anyone who's not in the same circlejerk doomstream. some of us barely check this site. toxic behavior excusing itself because it's not republican is hardly enlightened. The whole country has generations of ill-conditioned paradigms that seed disorder
- the far left: everyone should have the base things needed to live provided by society so nobody falls below a minimum standard of living
- the far right: everyone who doesn't fit some standard should be executed for the crime of existing
that is not far left, that's standard left.
by radical far left i mean people like many political youtubers that say is ok a man got shot and died during Dorito's assassination attempt, (you know the guy that the bullet hit) because he was at a trump rally so that makes him evil an ok to kill
You do know he got shot by a far right trumpet? And pretty much yea. When you willing go to an evil event to support evil men to hurt people like me I generally don’t care if they die. It makes the country safer for everyone. Besides the whole thing was staged and trump was fine with them dying.
Yup. Have been since the 80s when conservatives claimed AIDs was God punishment on gay folks. Or when they would throw us in jail for holding hands. You can try to normalize conservative evil but it shows the wish washy values you have.
you don't get to have a voice if you're going to use it to wring your hands about fascists being hurt. their entire ideology is predicated on mass murder. if a bunch of venomous snakes suddenly get into your house do you just ignore them? no.
you've never even considered once how to stop fascism.
quantity doesn't matter, i was just explaining what a radical person is, is someone who laughs and rejoyce when a random civilian dies because he got shot by a loose bullet in a rally
sure, in a perfect world nobody would be killed and everyone would be able to be educated. we don't live in a perfect world tho and one shouldn't get caught up in the paradox of tolerance.
At the risk of sounding like a dip shit, an addiction to power and the delusion that comes with that is a mental disorder isn't it? Like, these aren't well regulated people.
Like, fair point? The issue here is that -yes it's a joke, apparently counter-point to a transgender one from the Right? but at face value- it puts disabled folks into the same bubble as evil people when evil people are evil without being disabled but being disabled doesn't make one evil.
There are evil disabled people. That's just how humans work. Sometimes, the disability is that you get your empathy centers damaged to a point where you can't see others as human. Sometimes, the disability is that a marginalized group becomes a trauma trigger and you react aggressively to them.
As I've said elsewhere, I didn't know who the OP was, or the context, and as much as I'm on here in certain circles, then imagine someone who doesn't see this stuff at all and suddenly sees it in their feed? Not great. A certain shitbag that keeps stalking my replies aside, I wish people would get >
Remember when John Fetterman got a stroke, causing him brain damage and he said in an interview that after his stroke he noticed his political views shifted more to the right?
Correct for a vertically structure Society.
But not for a Horizontally structured Society where every one is guided by Honesty, Openness, Integrity and a sense of justice tempered by mercy and compassion.
Doesn't require that chart as the guidelines come directly from the people not handed down from above and created by the privileged few.
Look to your laws how many are actually for the maintenance of peace and harmony of your Society?
This comment section? Perfect example of why the unengaged think the left is irritating. Their irritation gets them to do dumb shit like vote for MAGA-choads.
I get nobody likes a joke about them, but if you aggressively anti jokes about you, they think you’re a dour turd and dislike you anyway.
I swear, for people concerned about society this is the most illiterate coalition when it comes to social interaction.
Is the joke nice? No. Is it hurtful? Only if you think it’s about you. Should you go aggro over it? No, you can laugh and say, “We shouldn’t laugh, that’s not nice.” Easy.
Let’s not place being an asshole on mental illness. That gives assholes too much cover (any cover is bad for the right). I know plenty of mentally ill people that are smart enough to not associate with asshole liberals and asshole right wingers.
Just because red people have interfered with your gender and sex preferences and you don’t want to feel shame with your sex life, doesn’t make them evil nor mentally disabled. They simply have a different moral compass with sex, and blue politicians are also looking pretty corrupt with money too.
love how this whole comment section is either liberals saying that this chart is offensive or leftists saying that liberalism should be shown as further to the right on the chart
Don't forget the people who hate it because it equates being a shitty hateful person with mental disorders when they are not the same at all. One can have one without the other.
This is a bullshit image. They voted for this and are getting what was promised. Don't let them fool you into forgetting that. They are not mentally ill. They are not deluded or duped. They are wrong and malicious. Suffering was *the point* and this meme negates their culpability in it.
I hope you will reflect on this and come to understand that this is hurtful. Not only to people with actual mental illness, but in getting these people to take responsibility for their actions. I love your content and I know you're better than this. Everyone makes mistakes, but be better than this.
Yeah here's another one of the fucking morons who devoted all their energy to shitting on those mildly different to the point that we got full on fascism
Really wonder what it will take to snap you out of it. Who do you think comes to their senses first, you or "moderate Republicans"?
I won't shut up and neither will the full on fascism that this country earned.
Start learning and reflecting. We might have another chance to do something in two years. Until then I'm sure we both won't be complying with jack shit coming out of this government, but we need to do better.
The left has spent 10 years spending all its energy shitting on incremental progress, long after primaries are settled. we got full on fascism as a result.
If we can't learn that we were wrong to do that, we will get to keep the fascism.
Who did Bernie endorse in that election again? The person who is actually fighting for the things you morons claim to support, what did he suggest doing in 2016, 2020 and 2024?
There's already a "right of centre" on the chart. Maybe you can just remove liberalism and replace it with right of centre, or vice-versa. Will that help?
Hi I’m assuming America, I have never paid for a doctor or hospital visit in nearly fifty years. We’re in danger because of end-stage capitalism and what it’s doing to our southern neighbour.
When they use liberal in this chart, it is meaning like, liberal liberal, the way the rest of the world uses the word, not the weird US right wing nutjobs who think government shouldn't exist and enforce laws.
Liberal liberal is still a political ideology that thinks everything should have a paywall. They just think everyone should have their own personal identity autonomy while doing it.
Liberals suck. They just want to reinforce the status quo by throwing by us a bone from time to time.
The disabled community is the largest marginalized group how are you going to win without them? The last time my disabled ass checked, liberals are about as damn, fucking hateful as Nazis towards us.
So why did Democrats give unanimous consent to vote on the confirmation of RFK? RFK is one of the most ableist pro-eugenics individuals in the country if not the world.
First off, not all liberals are democrats and vice versa
Second most democrats are neo libs
Third they are all a bunch of career politicians who still think there is some kind of decorum that has too be followed or maybe they think no one cares about leftist policy and this is what people want
That argument doesn’t work when Democrats have been doing this shit for decades and liberals have let them get away with it, defended them and made this disaster possible. Liberals, Democrats hate disabled people just like fucking nazis.
Political ideologies are a circle, not a line.
The difference between fascism and communism is the propaganda.
Why? Because all politics are simply popularity contests about power and control.
You can't find the best spot in a system that is inherently flawed.
Actually basic values from far left to far right & in between are legitimate. Where it goes from being simply someone's political opinion into whackadoodle land is when misinformation, prejudice & propaganda replace facts.
Halfway between the TRUTH & a lie is a 1/2 truth which is still a lie.
Hard for me to reply to that, whilst true. I think the meme is dishonestly leaving out beliefs on both sides..
The definition of liberal has been so warped that I doubt most people actually know what it means. I consider myself a true liberal.
It all pales in comparison to the real problem. $ inequ
Attacking people who genuinely want to be moderate isn't going to help the cause. I'm not excusing wing-nuts who wear moderate clothing, just pointing out that true moderates and centrists shouldn't be stereotyped if you actually want to restore sanity.
I mean under the criteria "Victims of Communism" uses, yes. They count people that died in a flood if the country was even slightly left-leaning. They count literal Nazi soldiers on the Eastern Front.
Sir, you're the one claiming the 100 million figure, you don't get to just throw out a random statistic and force others to justify it. Burden of proof is on you.
About 1 million people die to things Capitalism can easily solve, and there's millions, if not billions of casualties over the course of Capitalisms life due to things it refuses to address or prevent. Your point?
It should also be mentioned that much of what these 100 mil entail are cherry picked circumstances. All while knowing most Communist countries were facing the rest of the developed world and already were in subpar situations to begin with.
Listen, Marxists like to argue that theoretical Marxism would lead to nothing but the thriving of the human race as a whole and on the individual basis, therefore any other outcome is Marxism gone awry and taken over by authoritatives....but that happens every time the theory is put into practice.
LOL. They had ideological purity tests in Communist China and people that didn't pass the test had to do public struggle sessions. But I'm sure if we try communism again that won't happen right? Ahh....copium!
Education is severely lacking over there. Your so called Lefties, the Democrats are right of centre from the start. That's what you get for not understanding politics, only the power of capitalism for over 100 years.
No. First, political ideology and mental illness do not have a correlation. Second, that is the most right-wing-flavored left joke I have seen in awhile. Be the Onion, not Larry the Cable Guy.
Imagine if all these people in the comments utilized their energy elsewhere instead of telling you how mean you are because they didn't understand the meme template. Just imagine.
Every time you associate the right with mental illness you further stigmatize people with mental illness. Every time you stigmatize, less people suffering undiagnosed will get the help they need, leading to greater suffering and more suicide. Please stop it.
I mean, I've got a handful of trauma response disorders, and every part of conservative reactionary behavior to the existence of their targets (all of whom have been associated with the fear of traumatic events) are entirely legible as being untreated cases of trauma response disorders. I think that
we have to be realistic about things like this and actually critically engage with the possibilities that maybe it does take destroying someone's mental health to get them to easily dehumanize other people and want them tortured and dead, so that we can pursue actual solutions. But that's just me.
The patriarchy is founded on violence and the threat of violence. The fear impulse of people living under it is perfectly sane, regardless of whether or not that fear is informed by clinically diagnosable trauma.
It’s the fear that’s makes MAGA loyal to the tyrant.
You've acknowledged the clinically diagnosable trauma, but you can't go far enough to recognize that what I'm referring to specifically isn't the inciting emotion, but is instead the RESPONSE? They're literally triggered by the presence of trans folks like us, and their reaction is to fight.
everyone’s big mad in the comments for associating mental illness with conservatism but honestly i’d rather be called mentally ill than associated with liberals
Since marginalized groups are often targeted by the right, most are left-leaning. Being a target will definitely increase anxiety/depression/paranoia, but the far right is definitely full of cluster B PDs. The dichotomous thinking and narcissistic attitudes of the right is like holding up a mirror
What's your favourite Democrat policy? Is it enabling Trump every step of the way? Was it genociding Gaza? Maybe it was dangling every policy the Left support at the end of a stick like a carrot? Oh, ik! It was calling Trump a pussy for not finishing his wall. Maybe deporting 2x as many as him?
I would imagine it would be the 'not abusing presidential power to strip a minority of their passports and legal existence' policy. We can admit that the democratic party needs to eat shit while also recognizing that the republicans are going further with dismantling society than the dems planned to
yeah everyone knows that though. but we are not in a position to break out of it yet. and arguing with people on Bluesky isn’t the way you raise support for further left wing politics. EVERYTHING begins locally, so look there, not people who voted the only viable option for safety.
I bring a ‘is a clever little dipshit of a leftist trans woman’ to the Bluesky that both ‘liberals who’ve convinced themselves leftists voted for MAGA’ *and* ‘the stuck-up leftists who led to that sentiment among the first group’ tend to not like
If you haven’t seen the original meme, it just comes across as ableist, REGARDLESS of how it was intended. Seriously, stop comparing the RW to mental illness. It helps no one.
Are we really defending "no u" as a valuable argument? The meme sucks, it's ableist, it's position as a "nuh uh" attempt at a gotcha does not change this.
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Consider the following: it's not about what is for who, it's about posting something in a public forum that can easily be misread. The comments on this post prove that. It's about how easy it is to provide a note about the context.
look im all in favor of making fun of the "real genders/mental illnesses" thing used by transphobes but when it's used in this context it only makes you look like an ableist and gives people on the right more excuses to complain about us and they'd be 100% right in that case
That assumes that
1. the political landscape has people in large numbers in the middle camp
2. That, if those people exist, they are a coherent voting block
and
3. that people in the middle are swayed primarily by internal principles rather than by strong rhetoric and presence.
I always find this use of the blue and red colours in America so funny.
In Norway (and everywhere else) blue is conservative and red is socialist. Like the red flag of Sovjet or China. But in America red is conservative. Like Trump's admiration of Putin.
Thats a good way to out it. Usually by someone influencing against it, and/or the rest of a persons life being difficult enough. This is why compassion is both difficult and laudable.
Political scientists around the world understand that right-wing political radicals push towards violence and abuse of power. Unfortunately, we seem to be defenseless against psychological warfare.
I'm in the middle and i want free health care.
Ok maybe i'm middle left then since i support alot of policies by the left, because there is no fucking way i want to side with Nazi Scum like Trump.
Do you believe that it should be possible for individuals or private interest groups (such as corporations) to hold so much wealth and power that they can subvert our democracy? What about speculative real estate trading that makes housing unaffordable to earn dividends for hedge funds?
I think the Rich should be forced to pay their share in taxes, They are responsible for fucking our economy over by hoarding. And trying to hide their money in a swiss bank account or other means should be a crime.
Congratulations, you're a leftist and an anticapitalist. corporate media has vilified "socialists" and "leftists", trying to make it look like just a bunch of edgy kids throwing rocks through windows. But really, most people are already leftists.
The "moderate" is usually just someone who sees how shit Reps and Dems are and assumes that they are in the middle since they aren't either of those parties. What they don't know is that both Dems and Reps are right wing. 60-80% of people agree with socialism when it's not labeled as socialism
If one side is actual fascism, and the other just wants healthcare and living wages, and you look at those and say, "yep, I'm in the middle of that" you may be a moron, to put it lightly
This also reads like a USian take. Developed nations tax their rich and build safety nets for the working class. Developed nations have figured out how to balance Democracy and Socialism. They have the freedom of religion, press, and speech side by side with single payer healthcare. Must be nice.
and you have have an organ called eyes that apparently removes the need for biology knowledge and a brain by just absorbing other's opinions and blocking the fact communism kinda caused racial genocide every time it was tried
i am actually libertarian, so trans, gay rights, free speech and everything just no government ruled by "free palestine" communists trying to fund their failures with other's success
anyone who wants to tax it's people are basically no better then nazis
She's not literally calling these ideologies mental disorders, it's an old lefty meme format parodying a transphobic meme to get a rise out of conservatives by reversing their reductive thinking back on them. I can see how, without knowing the origin, people might think she was being literal
As an autistic person I empathize with the frustration of people commonly, incorrectly blaming the choice to hold hateful opinions on having a mental disorder, which is not a choice. This both stigmatizes mentally ill or disabled people, and removes some of the agency and responsibility from bigots.
As another autistic person, I have nothing but hate for people who spread disgusting filth like this that helps nazis! I proudly support using violence to put a stop to this nazi fuel
That being said, I think it's important to leave room for nuance, and to respect intent. I think the context of the post makes it clear that it is a parody making fun of those on the right who declare things they do not understand or agree with as signs of mental illness, and not a literal opinion.
Don't forget their support for the Cheneys, fracking, war, genocide, coups of democratically-elected leaders around the world, market deregulation, heavy policing, immigrant deportations, anti-trans rhetoric, oil drilling, infinite economic growth, Wall St. bailouts, ...[*trails off into the void*]
So its mental to think that republicans & democrats are insane lol somehow not being on either of your sides is a mental disorder hahaha this is why youre not in control of jack shit…ya treat everyone like theyre the problem if they dont agree with every little lunacy you come up with lol smh
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Nah, liberals are more center to center right leaning anymore. One mention of socialism, and they are hesitant or just full blown fascists. To be left leaning you kind of need to understand what the left is to begin with.
I get the funny haha meme template joke, but comparing mental illnesses and political ideologies, two things that are not mutually exclusive, just comes off as really gross. Coming from someone with diagnosed autism.
imagine if it was just liberals debating lefties and vice versa and no conservatives and no fascists to shit in the swimming pool of the conversation and half the average IQ of the room with their presence
I've been in rooms like this and it's absolutely miserable. Most people that identify as liberal ime are just centrists that care more about how they're personally perceived.
I do! but I feel some memes just shouldn't be made or parodied. I know this is a joke but some people will take it seriously and in my opinion it's best not to take a chance and just don't make a meme that can be seen as ableist or put down a group of people. Could've just put "MAGA or "MAGAT"
I see what you mean and you’re entitled to be offended, but making fun of an ableist meme isn’t actually hurting us tbh. Idk, I think being offended is fair but as someone whose got several mental illnesses, I thought it was funny. To each their own, though.
Except without the context or the original meme you have to take this at face value, which is ablist bullshit, and Bluesky is not immune to assholes and trolls.
agreed. you dont need to label anyone not left-of-center as mentally ill. just call them assholes, i do it all the time and it gets the point across just fine
im not trying to make a Thing about this, op is generally pretty cool. but to me this sort of thing is reflective of the idea that theres a Mental Illness That Makes You An Asshole And Thus Makes It Ok To Treat You Poorly. which is just not a nice or helpful idea in any way
i was not aware of that, thanks for the info. everything i said is still something i believe is relevant to the image but i do genuinely appreciate the extra context
Except mental disorders are how the center and right pathologize actually having feelings and caring about other people, and being able to see reality for exactly how shitty it is. Cf. Gaza.
Ya know? If the right is going to slander genders, why aren’t we out here saying there are “only two political ideologies, and the rest are an illness” or some such social commentary?
meanwhile techbro bluesky which wants us to believe it is different than all the other quisling disgusting knee bendiing pos like apple and google and microsoft and facebook wants to assure you this place is safe while letting lying nazis run around and say and do what they
A tankie is a Soviet larper who thinks socialism is when the government does stuff. They can only favorably compare themselves to literal war criminals.
I don’t know about that. Are you another of those far-righters who are still upset that the Red Army killed a bunch of German fascists? You seem like one.
No they don't have money. They totally would if they had money and if Israel was a CCP or former Soviet project rather than a Western one. They defend dozens of genocides and ethnic cleansings already, so why wouldn't they?
So, the anti-imperialist and anti-colonialist socialists are the REAL genocidairs, and the liberals who supplied the weapons and the diplomatic cover for genocide are NOT. That makes sense, good job.
i think the left can afford to sacrifice the part of itself that overlaps the u.s. state department circle and the xenophobia circle in the venn diagram
You can really always tell when people are just repeating what they heard someone else said VS having any understanding of the issue being talked about.
Counterpoint: you can dislike the liberals that did that AND tankies for being obsessed with defending the USSR despite the tens to hundreds of millions the communist party directly or indirectly killed
Maybe stop obsessing about it. We'd love to talk about what needs to happen in the US rn instead of relitigating things that happened decades and decades ago!!
the soviet union was the first country to recognize israel. israel was even held up as some kind of beacon for socialism. so you're wrong on that point because it was a pseudo-soviet project anyway
Wanting all work places to be worker owned democracies, and for everyone to have their basic human needs met and for all people to be able to live comfortable lives oh yeah that’s comparable to depression and schizophrenia 🙄 You liberals are so damn ableist its sick
Greed isn't a mental disorder.
Selfishness isn't a mental disorder.
Being power hungry isn't a mental disorder.
Being insecure isn't a mental disorder.
That's what fuels the right.
But way to add to the stigma of mental health issues...
Well acshually, sociopathy can be considered a mental disorder, and the things you mentioned, especially as per the right wing and its leaders, do fall under what socipaths do, and narcisists.
And other than that i'm fairly sure this is just shitting on the right for that one image.
I do agree on the mental illness point, but like i said before i'm most certain this image is shitting on one of those very shitty images from right wingers we've all seen, where its just an image of genders across the spectrum and the only ones considered real genders are the western binary.
I would very much also dare say, it's always sociopathy, a total disrespect for any form of human life, all for the betterment of a sick individual, killing people for profit and all of that racketeering they do, fits quite well with sociopathy as a whole.
I do think though that much of it can be and is fueled by insecurity.
White men didn't like having to share their privilege pie, so they fight back when the sociopaths tell them that women, brown people & trans people want basic human dignity.
the political spectrum is a lie. The US has been moving to far right fascism for a long time, the biggest propaganda we've been sold is that there is a 'left and a right', when they are all just varying degrees of fascism. There are a lot of writings and videos on this if you want to drill down.
this is a perfect example of how the left eats its own. if you are not i lock step on every issue they assume you are an ism. even moderates are considered mentally ill? really left of center people are put in the same category but the extremist need to seem friendly to someone.
by definition no they are in the center they aren't left or right. but to progressives the center is far right. it has to do with the things they disagree about.
this proves my point. the left doesn't know how to work with anyone who thinks a little different from them therefore you will never achieve when you alienate anyone who tries to understand. instead you grandstand and call names till people stop taking you serious even if you had a point.
It really ain’t like that.
For instance: “liberal” is widely misunderstood. We have classical liberals: land owners and slave owners, and we have their descendants. Neoliberals, neoliberal conservatives,
Liberalism is not a “progressive” ideology. It’s a poison. ☠️
Well said. I personally try to avoid labels, they tend to oversimplify anything today. Our biggest problem may be that the complexity of everything is overwhelming to much of America. Labels allow movements to flourish without any real truth behind them.
It's probably because it perpetuates stigma against mental health. I know plenty of people on both sides who struggle with it, and their struggles are often used by media, authors, and politicians to either gain popularity or paint things in a worse light.
Exactly this. I don't have a meme dictionary, and if it's messed up enough it doesn't need context to receive criticism. If most people don't know it's origin, the harm it does is more important than the humor.
I wouldn't even say it's memes going fast. I remember the original meme was at LEAST a year and a half ago, possibly around or before 2020. A bunch of the accounts here were literally 13 or younger at the time, so no judgement. It's like if I memed about "ethics in videogame journalism."
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Ironically, said actions from both extremes end contributing to the other side's narrative and hate speech, rather than helping.
If the extreme right wing is Patriarchy, which means misogyny and Machism, the extreme left wing is hembrism and misandry.
And to pretend that misandry doesn't exists, or to justify the extremely hostile behavior from radical feminist is just as wrong.
Misandry means literally the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against men. And trying to dismiss callings to kill men just because of our gender as if they are just "hurting our feelings" is horrible.
Irrational and injustified hate is wrong, regardless of the target.
I'm out of here, but know that you are not a lost cause. You can learn and grow every day. All the best!
You may think you look better by insulting, but in the eyes of the rest of the world, you're nothing but an hypocrite.
My enemies aren't owed by respect
Both extremes have done awful things, and if you actually want this nonsense cultural war to end, start pointing out the internal problems of your movements.
The world has suffered from both Left and Right sides of the US's politics, and it's perfectly normal to be tired of their hypocrisy.
How to properly deal with Nazis was determined in the 40s. Everybody was involved in the conversation.
Extreme isn't the word I would use to describe us. I spent the last six years working hospice care for the elderly.
Maybe if the center listened to us, we wouldn't be in the position we are. I've been warning them for 30yrs.
I'd say it is a perfect word, because that's the point where things stop making sense. For example, how does being misandric and wishing all men to die will aid Feminism? some extreme feminists think it does.
The kill-all-men (for some definitions of men) "feminists" aren't leftist extremists as genocide ain't leftist.
https://bsky.app/profile/ancomtn.bsky.social/post/3lhws3lavmc24
https://youtu.be/_pfh111X_UA?si=OdaQXhNFsxZPQY3x
All you do is support the far right instead of any meaningful changes.
It's so easy to put me on the enemy's side and start attacking me, when all i'm trying to do is to point out you ALL have internal problems that require to be fixed asap.
Your claim about me being a "biased liberal" says more about your own bias than anything.
- the far right: everyone who doesn't fit some standard should be executed for the crime of existing
clearly these two extremes are just as bad, yeah
by radical far left i mean people like many political youtubers that say is ok a man got shot and died during Dorito's assassination attempt, (you know the guy that the bullet hit) because he was at a trump rally so that makes him evil an ok to kill
you've never even considered once how to stop fascism.
They're fascists with a "communism" twist.
They're still on the right they just disguise it in Leftist rhetoric
Can’t fight the issue if you won’t name it
But not for a Horizontally structured Society where every one is guided by Honesty, Openness, Integrity and a sense of justice tempered by mercy and compassion.
Look to your laws how many are actually for the maintenance of peace and harmony of your Society?
and the dems/dncorporatewhores are just moderate republicunts!
Prove me wrong! Bring fucking receipts!
I get nobody likes a joke about them, but if you aggressively anti jokes about you, they think you’re a dour turd and dislike you anyway.
Is the joke nice? No. Is it hurtful? Only if you think it’s about you. Should you go aggro over it? No, you can laugh and say, “We shouldn’t laugh, that’s not nice.” Easy.
Remember anti vax started on the far left.
don't really appreciate the "joke"
Really wonder what it will take to snap you out of it. Who do you think comes to their senses first, you or "moderate Republicans"?
Anarchism is opposed to Liberalism. We are not the same.
Fascism is inevitable within capitalism. If you support capitalism you are a fascist.
Wake up.
If the choice were fascism or incremental steps towards whatever policy positions you imagine constitute "anarchy", I'd vote with you
Because I'm not a self righteous piece of shit that cares more about internet points than ppl
Somehow your head is even farther up your own ass. Your pride and self righteousness matters more to you than actually helping people.
We had an opportunity to stop full on fascism. You chose to sit out.
Start learning and reflecting. We might have another chance to do something in two years. Until then I'm sure we both won't be complying with jack shit coming out of this government, but we need to do better.
The left has spent 10 years spending all its energy shitting on incremental progress, long after primaries are settled. we got full on fascism as a result.
If we can't learn that we were wrong to do that, we will get to keep the fascism.
If they were, you'd have universal healthcare by now.
They're the left of the right. And they are half the reason things suck so bad.
Why should I trust anything you say?
That's the point I'm making. Liberals are still capitalists. They just think the working class should get more bread and circuses than others.
Don't blame us for your shift to the right, it's happening all over the world.
Liberals suck. They just want to reinforce the status quo by throwing by us a bone from time to time.
Moderate = dissociation
Conservative = narcissism
Reactionary/far-right = sadism/psychopathy
We ain’t gonna beat these fuckers if we’re infighting or worried about political correctness when talking about nazi scum
Second most democrats are neo libs
Third they are all a bunch of career politicians who still think there is some kind of decorum that has too be followed or maybe they think no one cares about leftist policy and this is what people want
The difference between fascism and communism is the propaganda.
Why? Because all politics are simply popularity contests about power and control.
You can't find the best spot in a system that is inherently flawed.
Halfway between the TRUTH & a lie is a 1/2 truth which is still a lie.
I think extremism on both sides has seriously skewed the political compass so much that anything not extreme is considered alt wing.
The definition of liberal has been so warped that I doubt most people actually know what it means. I consider myself a true liberal.
It all pales in comparison to the real problem. $ inequ
They’re both still capitalist.
Why is wanting a secure border that follows current law fascism? Was the democrats of the 90's a party of Nazis? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IrDrBs13oA&ab_channel=CongressmanFrenchHill
we should act like one
and not break under mental charge
It’s the fear that’s makes MAGA loyal to the tyrant.
Fear is not a mental illness.
It was the year of our Lord 1861 and the Democrats led the Confederate States against the abolition of slavery
Ik it’s hard to understand, but someone can, in fact, be critical of a party and still vote for it!
Please pick another non-sequitur and try again.
1. the political landscape has people in large numbers in the middle camp
2. That, if those people exist, they are a coherent voting block
and
3. that people in the middle are swayed primarily by internal principles rather than by strong rhetoric and presence.
idk about that one
In Norway (and everywhere else) blue is conservative and red is socialist. Like the red flag of Sovjet or China. But in America red is conservative. Like Trump's admiration of Putin.
I don't love this graphic. It's pretty shitty. But sure, hop on the Trump Train to demonize people who struggle with actual mental health disorders.
Things that occur when you neglect your mental health, trading suicide jokes that get progressively more nihilistic and anti social.
These people need help and would be far better people if they looked for it
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory
Ok maybe i'm middle left then since i support alot of policies by the left, because there is no fucking way i want to side with Nazi Scum like Trump.
The only difference between an able body and a disabled body: the able body has yet to become disabled. The brain is just one part of the body.
In all seriousness... yeaaaaa I see it. Im very much USian when it comes 2 my worldview which I should most likely work on.
anyone who wants to tax it's people are basically no better then nazis
Just like Hitler
Ffs. They support border walls not universal healthcare now.
At this point I'm just telling myself these people are feds trying to bring back the culture war.
Clearly created by an extremist.
imagine how good life could be
Probably won't be the last time.
That is the crux of your mistake. I think
Both memes are ableist.
to the people with metal disorders at least they have tangible values and are capable of empathy.
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#blueskyisnotyourfriend
Yup that's the strongest evidence to support horseshoe theory
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Tankies are the communists who aren't comrades.
If the Muslim terrorists just hadn't used them as human shields or stole their food for guns.
Keep on rooting for them, dhimmi.🤣
You can really always tell when people are just repeating what they heard someone else said VS having any understanding of the issue being talked about.
“organized liberalism…”
- Bernstein
My issue with this is ties in the capitalists via revisionism with leftism and anarchism and communism which aren’t the same. So idk.
But I mean… argh. Idk.
And “mental disorders” as a punch line?
That’s some liberal sh!t.
Greed isn't a mental disorder.
Selfishness isn't a mental disorder.
Being power hungry isn't a mental disorder.
Being insecure isn't a mental disorder.
That's what fuels the right.
But way to add to the stigma of mental health issues...
And other than that i'm fairly sure this is just shitting on the right for that one image.
So it's shitting on mental illness more than it's shitting on the right
White men didn't like having to share their privilege pie, so they fight back when the sociopaths tell them that women, brown people & trans people want basic human dignity.
See also, targeting conservative trans women and dead naming them. As though it's ok because you don't align politically.
It definitely can assist in pushing you that way depending on the flavor
Malignant narcissists for example
God, go to bed. You're clearly flailing and could use the rest.
Good point. Bernie is more of a true centrist.
Some are suggestible.
Some are in a such a rage that they fail to spot that they are being manipulated into transferring their hate to others.
Some are behind bars because they committed crimes whilst in any of these states.
For instance: “liberal” is widely misunderstood. We have classical liberals: land owners and slave owners, and we have their descendants. Neoliberals, neoliberal conservatives,
Liberalism is not a “progressive” ideology. It’s a poison. ☠️