What do you guys think about homeschooling? Like, are you inclined toward greater regulations on how much homeschoolers need to be taught? Standardized testing? Requirements on certain kinds of lessons being given in certain ways? Certain qualifications? Just trying to get a picture of the vibe
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Standardized tests and annual private (no parents allowed) meetings with a mandated reporter need to be mandatory.
You could ban home schooling in heartbeat if you had data showing worse outcomes. Should be easy.
The point here though is that poor outcomes of homeschooling *aren't* extreme outliers.
Anecdotal evidence is valid. It proves a thing happens. It disproves claims that it never happens. But I won't demonize a whole group based on anecdotes. Would you do that?
Go look in the jails. Look in unemployment lines. Look in shelters. Are homeschoolers over-represented? No. Then what problem are you solving?
If oversight in states like NY is a sham, there should be evidence of that
Without that, you can see why regulation is a tough sell
If they pass, they pass
Schools largely have harmful practices, police presence, and are unwilling or unable to accommodate neurodivergence to not give other options
I always feel biased bc for it me was 100% the right call, and I can't imagine any other way. Tho with that, I feel I might be the exception to the rule; It needs to be regulated.
But this also takes into account that my parents motives for letting me be homeschooled weren’t malicious or controlling. (2/2
Idk how on earth you’d grant exemptions though
this system gets abused a lot by bad actors with a lot of propaganda reach
But, in my state growing up (IN) there was no oversight whatsoever beyond one (1) annual standardized test, to be administered by parents to their kids.
But seeing how it’s actually been used, politically and w/in crazy families, I’m now with the Finns that shit should be illegal
No one should bar you from giving additional education at home on top of what your child learns at school ofc
I think the BETTER and more effective thing to do is to ban charter
That said, I also don't believe in standardized testing as it exists now.
But there needs to be requirements/safe guards to ensure kids are getting an actual education.
The more typical example of homeschooling is 90% religious indoctrination and abuse.
I was a part of a homeschool group where kids met up multiple times a week to hang out/take classes together, so it was basically a grassroots private school.
If I didn't have the homeschool group, it would've been an absolute slog.
Not a fan of it, partially for learning benchmarks and partially for the socialization aspects. It's harder to hate immigrants, gays, or any "other" group if you know someone that is that and they're cool.
But yeah standardized testing is a must and I'm against school vouchers.
Some kids have bad parents.
home school can be isolating but a lot of the socialization in public schools is weirdly prison-like and i don't think this actually teaches children maturity or useful adult skills
But that's just my impression.
the same environment is also teaching some of those kids how to be better abusers
there are benefits to public education but "socialization" is a huge stretch
I'd taught myself a lot of computer stuff, which put me above my peers in various fields.
Outlier case, but community college and self-directed learning were my main points I think should be focused on.
i'm more concerned with our cultural frameworks of schooling and learning than i am with which way we fuck it up. :/
(I am not an authority, but I have a master’s degree in education and my siblings homeschool their kids.)
Neither is really qualified to teach, but there’s at least a case for my first brother’s choice in the lens of care.
There would have to be rigorous oversight to make sure children are getting a proper education, while finding a way for social interactions.
Other than that it’s cool kids can avoid bullying, being shot, teachers who shouldn’t be teaching.
Maybe also some sort of regulation proving that some curriculum requirements are met? x amt of homework etc
That said, oh my god yeah they need more regulation. There's like almost none here.
I never realized how bad it is for most people using the same laws my parents did, growing up.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/parenting-translator/202109/the-research-homeschooling
what even is a good school system
ideally i would support broad public schools with working anti bullying campaigns and without the state injecting its fascist ideas but like
No exceptions.
if that's the best case scenario, I just can't think that it should be allowed
And even then there needs to be safeguards that ensure non-members of the household are kept in the loop for safetysake
Liberal (even leftist), secular, and academically high-achieving homeschoolers are still a minority - but we DO exist!
Some other states already have substantial reporting requirements; it's hugely different depending on where you live.
Later I went to college, and now I teach as a professor, so I think I turned out fine.
Most people think it's right wing Christian nut jobs sheltering their kids from all outside contact, but my family is agnostic, and we made connections with other secular homeschoolers, so I had a robust social life.
While having to take remedial math classes may not be a great look for homeschooling, I should point out that MANY people take remedial classes.
Most of my old friends went on to be very successful in their adult lives, and I'd say most of us are more well adjusted than we would be if our parents hadn't homeschooled us.
Something should be done to help, no idea what.
I had to because the school system didnt protect me and punished me for getting jumped.
I believe schooling need overhauls
As an adult the realization that most of my "learning" was just, for lack of a better term, repetition and regurgitation was pretty wild
I'm 21 and still don't have a diploma or GED
That being said, there absolutely should be heafty regulation associated with it
Outside of america, well, who would want to be equated to what american schools are about to become?
private schooling should also be banned
public schools should be better. the upper class shouldn't just be able to opt-out. not to mention the above concerns with homeschooling apply.
More people should homeschool, and more people should actually look into homeschooling resources, because despite the name, there is no good reason to homeschool alone with only your family.
Organize community schools.
besides that, it also deprives the kid(s) of an important social space, making friends, learning social queues, etc., etc.
And while public schools in some parts of the world for some people might be closer to that ideal than ever before, universal compulsory public education is inherently tricky.
I flat out refuse to condemn homeschooling as a concept when our public schools so often abuse kids with disabilities. Need more oversight of curriculum and welfare for sure, though.
It's a mixed bag. I can confidently say that I am socially under-developed, and that is something that I deal with in my adult life. I also believe that my mother gave me a better education than I would have gotten otherwise. But maybe I would have done well either way.
Actual oversight and testing Might help? But these kids come out without a lot of social skills, too, because they don't interact with a diverse group of peers. At best, they have some friends >